Your First Porsche 911? 996 C4S vs 997.2 C2 Compared

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If you're looking to buy your first 911, and you don't want to fork out £90k for a new one - you're probably considering something like one of these two. Similarly in many ways but with some crucial differences, I compare my 2004 996 C4S with this 2009 997.2 Carrera and see which is worth your cash.
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@johnwhodat8135 6 лет назад

The best first 911 is whatever you can afford.

@Biggerfoot 5 лет назад

is it really tho

@Porsche-Ninja 5 лет назад

@@Biggerfoot lol no

@bigmacdaddy1234 5 лет назад

Not true. The best one is the 1999.

@ericl452 5 лет назад

@@bigmacdaddy1234 So true! I have a 99 C2 with a March 1998 build date. It has been tracked for literally thousands of miles. I tracked it at Road Atlanta yesterday. It has a total of 92k miles on the original engine, with the original double row IMS bearing, and gearbox. It is a perfect first track car. If I wreck it, I will buy another.

@bigmacdaddy1234 5 лет назад

@@Porsche-Ninja Um Yes.

@Engineerboy100 5 лет назад

I love my 996 Turbo and will never sell it. The interior being older doesn't bother me at all ... heck I'm old so we get on just fine :)

@apt62 5 лет назад

Clint Hightower first thing that ages is always the tech. I like simple cars with zero techs.

@wmhhealth2018 4 года назад

I own a low mileage one owner 2000 996 cabriolet. I love it. It's the best car I've ever owned and every time I drive it I like it more and more.

@mauricestainsby196 3 года назад

Feel the same about my 996 C4S

@garrettstrutz7421 2 года назад

The 996 is the way to go such an analog pure driver they are starting to really climb in price now

@RSTI191 2 года назад

I drove my 996 TT for 13 years. Drove it like a rented mule. Kicked the shit out of it. Help up like the champ it was. The only thing I didn't care for was the long throw shifter. Other than that, I recommend one highly

@joesmalley8421 2 года назад

A useful comparison, but no one has seemed to mention the unique sound of the 996 C4S. It is unmistakeable, a raspy howl which is unlike any other 911. It’s so distinctive. For me it’s something that sets the 996 C4S and the 997 apart

@alduncan4058 4 года назад

I love these reviews, they remind me of top gear reviews when TG was a car programme.

@thavashgovender4345 3 года назад

Well, this fat bloke is pretty good

@jdolger6634 6 лет назад

Very good video and it reflects a dilemma that I suspect many Porsche lovers encounter. I daily drive a 997.2 C4S after having owned a 996.2 C4S for many years. The 997 will slaughter the 996 in the straight line speed department and the cabin is a nicer place to be in. That being said, the road feel of the 996 is soooo much better than the 997, and in the twisties the 996 is every bit as capable as the 997. In addition, even with Porsche Sport Exhaust, I can barely hear the motor in the 997 - it's just a little bit too refined. In my opinion the 996 just gives you more steering feedback, more mechanical noise from the engine, more vibration in the seat that tells you what the car is doing. Even though it is a hated generation of 911 it is a very good car and actually quite stunning in person. A good condition low mileage 996 C4S can be had in the mid to low $30K range while a similar mileage 997.2 will cost you $60K at a minimum. For the money, the 996 is just a much better value. After driving the 997 for a year, I still miss my 996 everyday.

@487shadow 5 лет назад

Agreed 100%. Everybody wants our 996 C4S sexy Porsche. I don't find many cars sexy, but this is one darn fine sexy bullet proof Porsche. I can't count the people who ask if we are selling our Porsche. Only 55,000 miles and it's a 2003. A blast to look at and drive.

@gregs8685 5 лет назад

I had the same experience going from a 996 to a 997. My solution was to sell the 997 and get another 996!

@pavelprunner8855 4 года назад

I have a solution, buy a 996 alongside the 997. I do not regret getting 997.2 ut I am seriously thinking about it. Now it's the time because they will skyrocket as well. :) We will be looking back telling... if I only bought one when they were down and no one wanted them. :)))

@johnnyboy1586 4 года назад

You can always buy a 996 then do engine mods for more power?

@colinmonk9113 2 года назад

good rightup from an owner, the 996 turbo is a lovely porsche & deserves it's rightful place in the line up., i have a 997.2 turbo 6 speed manual quad exhausts black on black leather & is all you need in a 911turbo.

@487shadow 5 лет назад

I like the sexiness of the 996 C4S, plus the egg lights make it unique and the red strip in the back is simply gorgeous. I like cars that are unique and that's the C4S!

@grecopena 4 года назад

Agree. The upgrade headlights look just fine and they work great. Plus the rear end looks fantastic. I have no complaints. My car runs get great. There are actually the few snobs that look down on the 996 but they love putting down the 996.2

@chrisogrady28 6 лет назад

The base 997 is a painfully beautiful car, my favourite looking 911 ever

@haveaseatplease 6 лет назад

Agreed, the 911's after the 993 version have lost there icon status due to mediocre design and the sheer production numbers.

@bliglum 5 лет назад

@simon lloyd Nah, the air cooled were "Classic" 911, and the doors had a great clunk. But the interiors were more cramped, the upright windshield and droopy rear weren't exactly aerodynamic, it was all just more reminiscent of the humble Beetle roots.. More modern 911's have evolved beyond the humble bug. 997's got a lot right, smaller and more compact than the newest models, but sleeker and more refined, more usable and faster than the OG 911's.

@nickvacirtzoglou4559 5 лет назад

bliglum you sir are right.

@TheBentwrist 5 лет назад

Agreed. I have a 997.1 and I think they're the prettiest of the 911's. They're less brutal than the modern ones, although I also have a modern one too.

@TheBentwrist 5 лет назад

Carrera S 3.8 tip@Levi

@TheDemonThorn 4 года назад

when the 996 is well kept i personally think it looks more sporty and aggressive than its 997 counter part.

@OneTimeProfile 5 лет назад

PSA to any and all 996 owners!!! If you truly want your car to sound amazing and have that signature flat 6 howl, you need an X-pipe! No amount of muffler work will change the base note of the car because it just sounds like two inline 3 engines over each other. Once you cross the pipes, you get a gorgeous 6-cylinder howl. References: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-D3twCyRm0T0.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WhOA0V_O1gM.html

@grecopena 5 лет назад

Well done. I got a 2004 c4s cab with 100k miles last year from a one owner dealer serviced, 6 speed manual, 19" turbo wheels. Passed a detailed PPI with flying colors. Runs strong. It's my daily driver now with 120,000 miles! Still checking the original IMS like a hawk, but so far it's fine. Get oil analysis every old change.

@HaxxorElite 6 месяцев назад

How did it go?

@laowhy86 4 года назад

This was excellent. Thank you for being so thorough.

@AB-sr9mc 3 года назад

literally just watched your video before coming here. what are the odds seeing you comment here too... haha

@Nord_Mann 3 года назад

@Ronin Gordon Now why would you do that you creepy bastard?

@2005pierric 5 лет назад

My first Porsche was and is a beautiful 996 Gt3 MK2 Clubsport. With a few mods it is bloody brilliant !

@jonathanbircumshaw7902 4 года назад

My 1st was the 996 c4s and in my opinion was the best looking I love the red reflector along the back.

@rk5rk5rk5 5 лет назад

996 for me!

@pavelprunner8855 4 года назад

Hey JayEmm, just bought a manual 997.2 and watched this video again. I cannot agree with you more. Love the car. Great to listen to your opinions and reviews. Btw, lately, you are covering my dream garage with the Viper, manual R8, etc... Good job man and thanks. :)

@remedy234 3 года назад

996 C4S prices are going insane. I’ve been looking for 12 months and seen them increase £10k +

@chrislondon9416 5 лет назад

996 Turbo before it gets too expensive..!

@DrJ3RK8 Год назад

My first 911 was a 1972 911T Targa. Second was a 1983SC. I'm driving a '99 996 now daily. Absolutely love it! I've also had a 924 Turbo, 924S, 2 914s (70 and 73), and a Boxster. The 996 is my favorite. It's basically the perfect car IMO.

@angi733 5 лет назад

People who say you can't make use of the extra power.... mostly BS - of course you want more power, like the rest of us. Esp when a hot hatch is so fast now!

@RobBoothAutomotive 6 лет назад

I love these comparative-style reviews, harks back to the M3 vs RS4 video that originally drew me to your channel!

@JayEmmOnCars 6 лет назад

That was a very popular video, and I do like to do them but as you can imagine getting two cars organised for a review is quite tricky

@MrCarrera28 6 лет назад

Great video, when I first saw title I thought they weren't natural fits for a comparison but after your video I definitely saw that a potential buyer should consider both. As a 996 owner I have my preference of course :)

@JayEmmOnCars 6 лет назад

Yes I think they certainly need to be considered as each one brings something different to the party

@jamesdrichardson3447 5 лет назад

Jayemm,.....Nice review here,......your next comparison must be a 997.1 or 2 against a 987 Cayman S and compare the handling with the differing rear/mid engine layouts. I think you'll be amazed at the capabilities of the Cayman S against its bigger brother. 😉

@jimknowles5483 4 года назад

Yes Jay! The comparision would be keenly outstanding! just jim

@Engineerboy100 5 лет назад

Whichever one you get you need to make sure the coolant pipe fittings are pinned as I found out the hard way. Here's what I did to fix a pipe pop-out! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1UGLVJdHM28.html

@brianmessemer2973 6 лет назад

Very nice review and discussion, I enjoyed it. Cool that you have 2 contrasting cars in the garage, I hope you keep them both for a while at least.

@Amgbrian 4 года назад

I miss my 996 C4S. Easily the best looking 996.

@tserzz 3 года назад

I've had both but still got the 996, love the Le Mans racing style. Best of the old and new in one. The 996 very good to drive feels more solid a more all weather road fighter a raw urban looking porsche, the 996 style is just fab. The 997 just didn't do it for me, a nice car but it didn't connect it seemed to feel like other cars in a different shape. The 996 is seriously the last of the great road icon 911s the 996 designer a genius it's still looks awesome.

@autonomousindividual7780 4 месяца назад

How the HELL can I trust someone driving on the wrong side?

@studid55 4 месяца назад

Ur funny lol

@Eggjuggler 5 лет назад

Good video. I have had Boxsters 986, 987 plus a range of 911's 996 Turbo powerkit, 997 Turbo, 996 C4S, 997 C4S. My 996 C4S actually had the fatal IMS issue and it was very SCARY, lots of clanging in the engine as the bearing bounced around then a pool of oil (out of the front of Halfords) that looked like a murder scene around the car. Porsche were amazing though. They recovered the car, flew a replacement engine in from Germany and fitted it within 2 weeks at zero cost (and the car wasn't even under warranty). This was all before the IMS issue was well known and I can't imagine they would still do this. Anyway my point is the 996 C4S is probably the most fun Porsche I have ever owned and once it had the new engine was totally awesome! I sold my car many years ago, however still keep an eye out on Autotrader in case it becomes on the market again. If you get a chance to get a well looked after 996 C4S go for it! (just make sure you get the IMS sorted out). Have Fun !

@se11459 Год назад

Great write up. How does one sort the IMS?

@ganthrithor 4 года назад

I split the difference and got a 997.1 C2: - Closer in price to 996 - Looks great inside and out - ~320hp and likes to rev - "Conventional" suspension (no electronics to fiddle with, although I think gen 1 PASM was available as an option-- maybe only on the S?) I love my first-gen 997-- it's a perfect daily driver / do-anything car. It's also right at the edge of usable performance for public roads IMHO.

@aaa84gt 6 лет назад

21:10 Haha, dry, sarcastic British humor 😂

@MrRoyck10 6 лет назад

The 997 is a far better option budget apart, it looks better, drives better and is more efficient than the 996. It is only budget that can justify purchasing a 996, the 997 will age better in the future.

@jonathanmoga5188 6 лет назад

Lol

@fredriksvard2603 5 лет назад

997 easily

@fghjfghgj 2 года назад

why the spoiler in the 4s?

@JayDutton 5 лет назад

Great review, I love my 996 C4s. I've had it nearly two years and only changed the oil and done the brakes. The previous owner did the IMS, clutch, etc. I love that I can get in and drive it like a modern car and has all the essentials like good AC, solid safety features, and reliability. I added Apple Carplay head which was a huge upgrade. I feel the speed is fast enough to satisfy me and the sounds and experience it delivers puts a grin on my face every time. I agree the 997 is better over all car but bang for buck of the 996 C4S can't be beat. I also love the rear end of mine, I wouldn't trade for a 997. I could possibly see myself stepping up to 991 someday but my C4S scratches that itch until then.

@487shadow 5 лет назад

Jay, you got a great 911 C4S, just like mine. I love it. Plus if you have a manual, the stupid thieves don't know how to drive a manual. I keep my locked all the time. Less drag on the battery. LOCK LOCK LOCK!

@carlfogle6517 4 года назад

I’ve got an ‘04 C4S, convertible. I pulled the trigger on the full Fabspeed mod (intake headers and muffler) the power increase was substantial. Do this and you’ll never want to part with it. It’s not about the style, it’s about the drive brother.

@calibre18517 5 лет назад

Good video guys; helps me as I'm debating the two.

@MrGB1999 5 лет назад

997 is so pretty in black. Correct that the IMS issues are removed from the 997.2 but scored bores (cylinder cracking) can still beset a DFI so do your due diligence here (scope checks can see inside the cylinders) - I've also see that warranties are not covering this issue (because the rebuild job is so involved). For those interested in the 997, I'd point to the gen 1 3.6 (or base car). They seem to be less susceptible to bore scoring (less heat soak?) and all but the very early ones 2004 and early 2005, they included a revised IMS bearing design that is generally more reliable. I'd also recommend the use of a 50 grade engine oil to cope with the heat generated by this car. Hotter engine = scored bores? It's a theory but it made sense to me. Most of the LED facelifting seen in gen 2 can be more or less done with aftermarket lights. Even the steering wheel is an easy change and makes a big difference. Wonderful cars!

@ryanmccormick2150 6 лет назад

I really enjoyed that James, I absolutely love 911's I'd take 964 c4 🙂

@JayEmmOnCars 6 лет назад

Thanks Ryan!

@ryanmccormick2150 6 лет назад

@simon lloyd your a lucky boy!

@713vinh 5 лет назад

@King Brilliant 964 had poor engine design that was prone to leaking oil.

@EtonieE25 Год назад

I waited for a 4 wheel drive 911 alllllll the way through the 1970’s, 1980’s and finally got one in 1991 and found out it was an understeering little shite! As they say, don’t meet your hero’s ☹️

@robertwilliams-gg1zq 6 лет назад

Great comparison and review, really enjoyed it.

@JayEmmOnCars 6 лет назад

Thanks

@fourwheeltrader 5 лет назад

Thanks for the video. I like that you cover also the more technical aspects of the car and the aspects which are often not covered in normal reviews. A while ago I made a video about the depreciation of the various 996 models using some machine learning models. While the 4S already rose in value quite significantly, I think there is still room to buy one of the normal versions without facing any depreciation.

@minnaala-mantila929 5 лет назад

👌

@voqzmk2 4 года назад

I like the C4S a lot more, the headlights look different and amazing and it looks more sporty and more aggressive

@charlesmcguffy 6 лет назад

That steering wheel could be had with buttons. Even the Cayman had that as an option. It's a really useful feature and one I wouldn't want to be without. Only issue is that the right scroll wheel works in the opposite way to that which you'd expect!

@iwunder997 5 лет назад

Do you have a friend with a 997 C4S?...would’ve been more apples to apples.

@TTommmmo 4 года назад

I totally agree. Unfortunately, not a true comparison.

@cliffm6566 4 года назад

iWunder , more a focus on initial cost of a liquid cooled 911. 997 C4S would be more $$$ again over the premium to go from a 996 C4S to a 997.2 c2 to get the new engine.

@thedudeabides1443 4 года назад

Having driven both of these cars, I'd still take my 987.2 Cayman S ; )

@danparry834 Месяц назад

Do you still have it?

@thedudeabides1443 Месяц назад

@@danparry834Nope. Now I have a 981 Spyder.

@jamest5149 5 лет назад

@11:42 The heat shield behind the bumper is loose - this may be adding to your rattles.

@Justinyoon12345 4 года назад

I like the 1999 headlights

@hugohugo2832 4 года назад

I’d recommend mid price between these two, a 996 Turbo.

@sherparoyale 2 дня назад

Got one a year ago and am in love

@13ionic5ausage 6 лет назад

Not a fan of Porsche but I like the way this guy reviews and was entertaining so keep up the great work!!

@JayEmmOnCars 6 лет назад

Thankyou

@487shadow 5 лет назад

@@JayEmmOnCars He's professional!!!!!!

@allanlai_ 5 лет назад

Do you find yourself seated higher in the 996 than 997? I can sit really nice and low in my 997 with shoulder just below top of the door but in 996 at lowest position my shoulder is still above the door...

@ukwan 4 года назад

The 996 C4S and Turbo models look great, also the 996.1 GT3.. But the rest of the 996 range is a bit ugly, but doesn't detract from the fact they're amazing cars.

@seankeller8655 5 лет назад

I love your video reviews! Excellent comparison and perspective! 😀

@foesfly3047 5 лет назад

Thanks for mentioning Powerflex! Huge savings for substantial suspension upgrades compared to Porsche OEM replacement components.

@siddhartashakyamuni6206 2 года назад

997.2 it’s a better overall car.

@frankvandermeulen777 5 лет назад

I suggest not to use the word 'hate' if u are a Porsche / sport car lover

@johnyutah9542 4 года назад

My first porsche will be a diecast 1/24 model. I'll drive it on the pavements makin brum brum noises with my mouth

@naughtynightlifeasia7317 5 лет назад

Nice review. But we do really need a load more exterior shots pointing out the differences.

@thomashumber9762 5 лет назад

911 SC....911 CARRERA 3.2.....964 .....THAT'S IT FOR ME UNTIL THE 991 GT3.

@Audidude 6 лет назад

Good review - no nonsense and good knowledge. "back in an era when the regular car was the best one to get" - agree100%. The number one reason to buy a 996/7 HAS to be the drive - OK some will want the pose-value, but for me and many others it's all about the drive. And there are a few essentials in that: connection, involvement, feedback, and just good old Thrill - and to maximise those you need a lightweight 2WD manual - that puts the "regular car" at the top of the list. Wide body AWD? Nah - extra weight, and you can't see it when you're driving anyway. Those weighty front driveshafts and the torque they produce degrade the steering from the pure connection of the C2. so that's 996.1 or .2 - the .1 is the purest as it has mechanical throttle rather than electronic - but that's about it. It feels peakier on the top end, possibly revs out better, but that's mostly because it has less torque lower down. The improvements to the 996.2 engine are worth having except for one: they changed from a dual ring IMS to a single one, which increases the chances of failure from about 3-5% to more like 6-8% - easy fix: change it for an aftermarket such as LNE. You might have guessed by now that I have a 996.2 C2 manual - pure driving pleasure!

@JayEmmOnCars 6 лет назад

Excellent choice sir

@thelongnguyens 5 лет назад

Hi guys, I'm a JDM guy looking into Porsche. What's your thoughts on a well balanced MR Cayman S? Or a 996.2 C2 is a better choice?

@JayEmmOnCars 5 лет назад

I have a real soft spot for the Cayman, definitely worth trying

@Audidude 5 лет назад

Long Nguyen JDM? Well I have a JDM DC2R race car, and a factory original ‘96 JDM DC2R 50,000mi. Stunning driver’s cars every bit as much fun and as rewarding as a 911, but totally different. If you want something more diametrically opposed to that, the 911 is the way to go. That rear bias of power and balance is a completely different experience. For one, there’s traction! Something the FWDs can only dream about. A Cayman is a better balanced handler but it’s that out of balance feel of the 911 that makes it more thrilling. Drive both. You won’t be disappointed in either, but the differences will be clear. Everyday, maybe Cayman, weekend warrior, probably 911.

@techniqueswithtodd 2 года назад

The STIG himself is well known for buying a used Porsche and he loves it. 997 Turbo gen 2 is just one of the best drivers cars ever made. Here is his Stigness talking about it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sWt2kJfRtMI.html

@Sams911 5 лет назад

new 992 C4S on order.. let you know how I like it.... feel like it's going to be well received as it's not a radical change form the last gen.

@ThavashOnTech 3 года назад

Well? What's the verdict ?

@Sams911 3 года назад

@@ThavashOnTech ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Q6L3bz_H1GQ.html

@everycarSeattle 5 лет назад

Both are great choices but I'm a big believer in the 1995 as the perfect 1st Porsche...followed by the 1987.

@TheWolvesCurse 4 года назад

why these specific model years? what's better about a 1995 993 than on any other model year 993?

@roelfkromhout 4 года назад

996 4S is the best looking liquid cooled 911 ever made.

@713vinh 5 лет назад

What a fantastic video. The 997 is the winner for me.

@CharlieDrives 5 лет назад

Miss this car soooo much 😭😭😭😭

@pjvenda 5 лет назад

Good discussion, I find the conclusion quite logical. To be fair I would have e bought a gen2 Carrera S if I could have afforded it. Instead I really love my gen1 Carrera S which I have tweaked slightly over time (wavetrac, light weight flywheel, engine mounts, etc). It's getting a bit tyring though to hear that people hate the 996. They don't, certainly not those who know and appreciate the cars for what they are. And 996s are selling better than ever, reaching many drivers who otherwise could not afford a 911. Check out May Watson's video series and Jethro Bovingdon's piece about his own 996.

@jasonkent3658 4 года назад

I myself don't want any controls on the steering wheel. And I absolutely require a clutch pedal myself I'd choose 997.2

@matharris7673 5 лет назад

I went for a 997 Gen1 2007. Manual C2 which is the best value Porsche and naturally aspirated! No IMS issues on these later models but with all the bad coverage out there, has scared many off and kept values low. With induction unit and Gundo hack it’s livened up no end. Lively, sporty and great fun.

@darrendevolin3720 2 года назад

Isn’t the ims still an issue in the normally aspirated 911’s until 2009 dfi was introduced?

@dheningt Год назад

And 997.1s have become notorious for bore scoring issues. Hope that didn’t bite you

@Gorilla_Jones 11 месяцев назад

The GT1 headlights are awesome. Fried egg 🙄 The second Gen 996 headlights are horrid. If you get aftermarket GT1 style headlights they’re even prettier.

@haldoglife 5 лет назад

Very much enjoyed this video. Great content here so I subscribed!

@JayEmmOnCars 5 лет назад

Thankyou!

@franciscotoro9454 5 лет назад

I am delighted with the headlights. It is the only 911 model that shares headlights with a Le Mans winning Porsche. The 1998 GT1.

@713vinh 4 года назад

You forgot to add the Boxter.

@Bebopin-69 5 лет назад

Why do you say 20+ year old, this is 14 yo at time of recording

@713vinh 4 года назад

He fell asleep during math class?

@JayEmmOnCars 4 года назад

The 996 came out in 1997

@DutchManticore 3 года назад

I like the rear reflector of the 996.4s so much, but the 997 headlights are so much better

@maxmeier532 6 лет назад

You see the thing with old age is, some carry it well and some dont. The 996 is the latter. And a comparison to a vauxhall isnt quite adequate. Compare it to say, a 911 from the 60s or 70s. Way older, yet that interior will look quite nice if the car has been taken care of. Plastic, and especially that Volkswagen Ignacio Lopez plastic, looked terribly when new and looks worse years later. It's a shame when car makers demand 6 figures yet put ugly plastic in your face. It seems to be a toe in the water: Just how far can we go with trolling our customers and they will still think we are a luxury brand?

@5thgearouttahere 6 лет назад

brilliant, throw some alcantara = microfibre = polyester = *$$$$* over it for a real laugh!

@hugohugo2832 4 года назад

Mine was a 98 3.4 C2. Loved it. Then got an 03 C4s. Sure footed but less fun. Now I’ve got an 02 Turbo. Wicked.

@drewmorg. 5 лет назад

For my money (and I don't have any...) it would be the 997.1 C2S ... you get the larger engine, PASM standard, 10more HP than 997.2 C2 , and all the other goods (brakes, suspension, lowered from factory) for cheaper than a 997.2 . Go with a 2006+ and you don't have to worry about IMS. Bore scoring still an issue in colder climates.

@stevenandrews3466 4 года назад

drewmorg I thought the ims issues wasn’t fixed until the 2009-2012 years?

@laetimarc254 7 месяцев назад

the engine of the 996 designed by Mercedes and manufactured by Porsche at the time when Porsche was in financial difficulty is a disaster in terms of reliability (IMS, cracked cylinder heads, scratched cylinder, etc.) It is greatly preferable (especially if we ride and keep it) to go with a 996 turbo with its Mezger engine (designed by Porsche) much more reliable.

@EtonieE25 Год назад

Guys might be worth a look at an independent Porsche specialists in Hertfordshire called Friends Green Porsche who only deal with 996’s and 997’s for sale and offer repairs on your own 996’s and 997’s including the IMS. There’s a heap of videos about them on RU-vid with the work they do

@richardcarr6493 Год назад

l hate the 997 steering wheel TOO and l know , ONE the horn is not in the center so it looks off AND TWO it looks like a cheap VIDEO GAME WHEEL it looks cheap too NOT VERY PORSCHE AT ALL

@callelindstrom4789 3 года назад

”Not the way it looks” what?...I take a wild guess. I guess that 996 today is one the most appreciated 911 designs of all...even with the headlamps. The only one I hear compligning about the ”Fried eggs” is you and other Vloggers on youtube. So stop it. Read the comments on any Porsche forum. I dont read they are ugly....they are modern. The only Porsche model today with headlamps with cirkels is the 992. All the other have a”multilamp” design...the boxter, Panamera, Taycan, Macan, Cayenne just like the 996...996 was before its time.

@thomprd 5 лет назад

If you're having front end bobbing and weaving, then you may have either a suspension issue or your front tires aren't very sticky. My front end improved tremendously with a new control arm and Pilot Sport PS4's. I drove my 996 back to back with a 997.1 and I actually really prefer the 996 interior because it feels vintage rather than just dated. I think it's aged a lot better than the 997.1 interior. I prefer the driving experience of my 996 to the 997.1 and the 991.2 that I've driven. My 996 does have aftermarket springs on it, though, so it's really planted and lowered a bit. I also think your engine isn't quite running right. My 996 pulls hardest and sounds incredible between 6 and 7k rpm's.

@clubracer6 5 лет назад

Ronald Thompson could not agree with you more!

@user-gz8fk9eo6u 3 года назад

I just bought a 996 Carrera 4 , I’m absolutely in awe of it 👌

@ccasche5088 3 года назад

'99 C4 manual here. Thoroughly enjoy it.

@denzellneblett-marson7363 7 месяцев назад

I hear the 4 is just as fast as the 4s is that true?

@mehmetkaraata4999 4 года назад

wanted to buy a porsche since i was 18. now 54, i have been looking seriously for the past year. ive a;ways driven a mercedes. am i ready for this? YES!

@grecopena 4 года назад

Pay for a PPI from a respected Porsche mechanic and if it passes buy it. You will be glad you did.

@MrKeyboardCommando 6 лет назад

I thought you might have discussed the difference between 2wd and 4wd, or, on the road, were they pretty much the same❓🤔

@JayEmmOnCars 6 лет назад

Genuinely, does not come into play at reasonable speeds at all

@carlfogle6517 4 года назад

MrKeyboardCommando C4S is much better driving experience

@MrKeyboardCommando 4 года назад

@@carlfogle6517 Thanks.👍👍👍

@moshazza5684 11 месяцев назад

Good video and great insight but id like to suggest a like for like comparison i.e c4s in both variants? Or perhaps comparing 2 cars that say 22k can buy...1 from each model.?

@waltermelonz1487 6 лет назад

I know this comment will go down as well as a fart in a lift but.... If it was me I would have kept that 911 tinkered with it with the extra cash rather than purchasing the M3. 👀

@Steve-vp8ng 6 лет назад

Seeing how he talked about getting an exhaust for the car, it seems like he didnt sell it after all.

@JayEmmOnCars 6 лет назад

I still own the 996

@waltermelonz1487 6 лет назад

@@JayEmmOnCars you said you was selling it in your last video? Are you keeping it now then? 🤔

@paragon84 5 лет назад

@King Brilliant What would you buy from that era that is better as an all rounder?

@yueibm 4 года назад

Squeaks when the suspension is compressing and rebounding at lower speeds on a 996 are most likely bad ball joints.

@jbrenofficial 5 лет назад

I'd care to point out that any 911 interior other than the current one is going to look dated in some way. I love the 993 also, but those interiors are really dated too.

@florinflorin249 Год назад

guess what, the 997 also suffers from bore scoring, just search the youtube channels.. sure enough it may not have IMS issues, but that one is a cheaper fix.

@TROOPER880 3 года назад

I am a Porsche specialist, that exhaust on the 996 sounds terrible; very farty. This guy also mentions lots of plastic, if he does not like this, he should have got one with extended leather. I also do not like the aero kit at all... never have.

@peeterpaaver204 9 месяцев назад

Interesting, It turns out that jay has started speaking alot faster over the years. if you put the video on 1.25 speed it sounds alittle bit more normal than on normal speed...

@dontcallmetravis 2 года назад

Take all the information on these cars with a grain of salt; in that the prices have rocketed up especially for the 996’s. I believe the increase in cost has been nearly the same in the UK and the USA, but I’m not totally sure. The 996 is no longer the value it used to be. For people like me, who passed on a 20K mile 996, lost thousands of dollars by waiting.

@berkan5578 4 года назад

wait that’s the price for a 996 in the uk??? In Germany they start about 20k for a bad one.

@JayEmmOnCars 4 года назад

Yeah a 996 C2 starts from 10k here

@arifabdullah7142 8 месяцев назад

As long as they are manual transmissions, not pdk shifter and "911", they are great Porsche cars

@paulwebster4499 9 месяцев назад

But then there is another reviewer on youtube who brought a speed yellow 996 c4s and states expect to spend around 18k to properly sort 😁

@wesleycarusos8225 2 года назад

I just bought a 2002 C2 6-speed. I also have a 2000 986s 6-speed. I hear a lot of criticism about the interior but I really like it. The interior on my Boxster is full leather it smells like heaven. I also don't mind the headlights I don't like the fried eggs but the fully clear I love. Anyway I'm very new to the 911 but very excited. I wonder what mods were done to that exhaust I think it sounds wonderful.

@RayRizo-oy8pb Год назад

Why on earth did Porsche allow this IMS to stain such a fantastic car. Unbelievable 🙈

@jonfrench7133 2 года назад

Just can’t see past the ham fisted presentation. I’m not looking for the next top gear presenter. Just an authentic and cliche free presentation from one car enthusiast to another

@peem1244 5 лет назад

Re: '...engine problems affecting all of these models...' i feel is a bit inaccurate. An independent American Porsche garage did a research exercise to try to identify the issue re IMS failures, and the major outcome highlighted that almost all of the cars involved were 2nd or 3rd cars which were garaged for days and weeks at a time and taken out for the infrequent spin. The cars which were used frequently had no such failures. As for low mileage cars being the ones to go for, i'd think carefully about that.

@tedarcher9120 5 лет назад

I would definately go for high milage car from country, so it has only highway miles. This things can go a million miles on a highway

@mohawk5010 6 лет назад

I may be completely wrong, but I think 996 models will actually go up in value in the next 10 years. As new cars no longer have that mechanical feel and sound, every Porsche from before the 992 will start to look good by comparison.

@DeanoTXR53 5 лет назад

As a 996 owner, I hope youre right... But I really think there is no way that happens to anything but a few very specific models that people seem to prefer just because of aesthetic reasons (the c4s). They made 175,000 996. Thats simply too many to make a standard C2, or targa, or cabrio, worth much of anything ever.