Your HOA Fee Is Asinine! 

She is the Heir to the empire!

Yes I love it haha!

110%!!!

Totally! I think they are my favourite duo.

Is that 650 a year?

Best of luck.

@chrismcc6563 $650/month I would imagine. Mine is $300 and it includes everything except electric/gas and whatever breaks on the inside. Roof, siding, water, lawn/snow care and a pool/tennis court all covered. And I still think thats expensive

Buy two more of them

You need to look through the minutes to review why the dues have gone up. You also need to figure out exactly the $650/month covers. Every HOA is different so there's no way of knowing if this is a reasonable fee or not without that info.

Heck I couldn't afford one of my condos I have now if I had to buy it at today's price.

Me too and I’m a slob. Hahah. Right now I got weeds growing and I have an old office trailer out back and a park model mobile home down the side. Hahah. I’m just fine with hick!

Then you can't afford a house lol

@@xfhnhhgjbvcfg most people can’t afford their houses. I know people spending 60% gross income on a house. I’m at 4-5% my gross and I think that’s bad.

Owning a house (with NO HOA rules OR fees) IS the WAY to go.

@@Mrsmetamorphosis2012 True!

Yes, not new condos (because new condos don't have to pay for the maintenance of the building yet), but that sounds pretty normal for a condo where I live that is currently having to pay for major maintenance work (or pay off loans for major maintenance work). Either that or it might have expensive amenities such as a building security guard + pool + fitness center + landscaper. Hardly unheard of unfortunately, especially because insurance rates are increasing so fast because of climate change and these HOAs are often required to cover home insurance for all of the common areas too. I even saw one building where the HOA fee was that high and the reason it was so high is water and cable is bundled into the maintenance fee (which I would hate as a heavy internet user who never watches cable).

The real answer is HOAs are mostly scamming owners. Period. I've never ever found a single HOA that does anything within reason.

Condos and townhouses aren't really possible without HOAs

80% of ALL new builds in the U.S. have an HOA

In Texas, that is basically impossible. Since most housing was built less than 40 years ago, it is all HOA

Exactly very normal for Atlanta and Dallas too. Not sure where baldie here gets his numbers

@@juanrestrepo1017 And Los Angeles...especially high rises and buildings with lots of amenities.

All it takes is effort.

I'm trying to guess you live in NYC area...Boston..or somewhere in California?

This is called legalized theft.

There's plenty of houses and property without an HOA in Texas. You just have to look.

"But in Texas it is very hard to find a house in a neighborhood without an HOA." That's pretty much the norm across the country for any new home. Florida even has CDD fees thrown in there (municipal loans paid off by the home owners).

HOAs are the worst. She should sell it. Since it is a condo, not like she owns anything except the four plasterboard walls. Basically an apartment being told what to do along with an extra HOA fee.

@@stevenporter863 She does own the land, together with everyone else.

I can understand having condo dues because it's tailored to my wants and needs with the security gates/guards,4k cams,heated pools,lawn/landscaping,maintenance of outside condo,tennis courts,heated pools,payroll,etc.... Not into the subdivision of HOAs for houses. Must admit the subdivisions with HOAs look nicer that those without.

Yes, and this is nothing new. It's been super high for condo owners in Dallas for well over a decade. Papa never heard of this before in Dallas? The caller will get know place fighting it...buyers historically paid it for low prices but that ship sailed.

The people running them are elected amongst the owners. They usually have zero experience in infrastructure management. Recipe for chaos and despair.

Is this per month??

Exactly it’s very common - that’s what all Atlanta HOA are if not even above. Where do this people live ? Middle of nowhere Wyoming ? 😂

@@sydneygray1331 yes per month

​@MrBean I think that is the point. If someone went through the expense and effort to buy and own something; they may feel they shouldn't have to make yet another sacrifice and take the time out of their schedule to go to yet more meetings. All to just to make sure some HOA doesn't make rules or decisions about the very property they 'bought''. That doesn't sound like owning something besides on paper - it more sounds like communal living at private prices.

Anyone else would get fired for challenging him like this lol

I wonder if she cheated on her husband if Dave would fire her? Because he did that to a former co-host 😮

​@@cjhoward409 Ok, troll - First, she wouldn't do that. Second, yes, he'd fire her.

I never have, and never will, live where I have to pay an HOA. NEVER!!

@@jimroscovius Oh you know her so personally that she would NEVER do that ? Lol I’ve seen stranger things in my time. And I seriously doubt he would fire his own daughter. 😂

Same reason I hated school 😂

The fact that you're mentioning you want to paint your house any colors you want.. as if they wouldn't be approved, that's why a lot of people want to live in an HOA, that don't want pink and purple houses.. .or lets say rainbow colored houses destroying their home's value.

@@jeffwvu4602 LOL come on man.... are you an HOA board member LOL

​​@@jeffwvu4602tfo, thats none of your business, if u dont like it, live in a cave or buy the whole block Hoa is a plague in this country

Emotionally, I'm against HOAs BUT, they have their place. On a $800K place, mine is $100/mo. It covers sewer service, trash pickup, police force, fire department, road maintenance and maintenance of the lakes and common spaces. As stated upthread, it also keeps my neighbor from storing four shipping containers next to me - like my old place. :)

Agreed, don’t have one on my home. However 80% of all new builds in the US have an HOA. It’s actually very hard/regional to find non-HOA homes

I would like a house without HOA too. Maybe Dave is right. One of my HOA members is a single mom who stays home and has nothing to do so she is strolling around the neighborhood looking for the makeup issue to report

Yeah, I was wondering if her fee might include all utilities, taxes. maintenance, landscaping, trash removal. She really needs to see the breakdown of where that money is going to.

True of all American properties with or without a HOA to be honest.

you dont know what you are talking about. let me ask - who does pay to replace the roof where you live?

My house is worth 620k and my HOA is 80$ a month. I get a members only pool with life guards, a ton of communal gardens and parks in the area with equipment that is maintained, tennis court, driving security 24/7, and most importantly I’m left alone.

There is a big difference between a house and condo. 650 is crazy, my Mom's was considered inexpensive and was around $200 a month. Includes all outside maintenance and covered anything outside like roofing, siding, driveways, etc.

i suspect its a mute only

As the other comment said, mute ❤

It's like a shadow mute, I've call into the show before. Like you can hear the answer, but won't be able to respond and the call-screener will talk to you. Once you ask your question and they have enough information they give their answer but don't need to carry on a whole conversation. Some people ramble a lot on there, so it help to shadow mute.

​@@blackonblack...9244 Never called in but just about to write the same.

Bye Felicia

Yes. Watched a few Vegas high rise videos and they are the same. For a high-rise, I can certainly understand HOAs and having higher fees. There's a lot more maintenance and care that goes into buildings (shared walls/building supports), sewer systems, electricity, the telecomm rooms must be built out, parking, trash, and other amenities. So, I can see that. But, normal one to three story condos? Can't see why they'd be terribly high unless you are getting a lot of amenities for your money.

ALL utilities? Highly unlikely but I suppose possible.

Very few cover electricity. Most buildings where I live cover heat and water. Sometimes gas.

Exactly! This lady did not appear to understand anything about condo HOAs or what her fees are paying for. When I owned a condo, the dues covered everything except electricity.

Mine covers that for about $200/month.

@kagnewcobra I live in the Dallas area where this lady lives, I have worked in construction for 30 years, specifically midrise condo and apartment development. What happens is they take an older building that was apartments and never had individual meters for anything and convert them to condos. So the HOA dues are fairly high because all these items are included.

So what's the point of owning? I rent and pay only twice your HOA fee.

It’s condo’s not houses usually

@@shachede6828 actually that's incorrect communities are charging hoa for houses and town houses

@ApplesAndOranges the point is your are paying for the Parks, pools. Club houses, fire pits, bbqs etc

​@@barrymicockneryes but you're not getting any of those services like this caller but it's required as a homeowner in the city.

It increased 200 dollars or 40%. It was insane before they upped it. Lol.

I’d rather pay a special assessment for something that’s needed, than let the HOA sit on my money and possibly not budget it for infrastructure replacement. They can collect your money monthly and STILL pass a special assessment (“Oops!” with no consequences). I prefer to hold onto my money and invest it so it grows, then pay for things as needed. Most people can’t handle their money properly, though, and don’t know or accept that the building will need things.

@@genxx2724 Same. We've had one assessment in 25 years of $400 a few years ago. Was voted on 95% approved and necessary. Part of my emergency fund/investments covers any assessment that comes up in the future. The board of directors encourage everyone to have an emergency fund regardless even though we have a hefty reserve fund and preventative maintenance. They don't like surprises.

@@blackworldtraveler3711 It sounds as if you have smart, mature people running your HOA.

@@genxx2724 I live in a condo and I'm the opposite, I never want to be around for a cash call, especially for something that should have been planned for but was missed somehow. I prefer there be a budget and audits in place to make sure the reserve fund is suitable for the major upcoming expenses (which thankfully my condo has), I also prefer that the cash reserves on hand are being responsibly managed and invested in appropriate funds until needed... the reason I prefer the condo to manage it is because even though people like you are able to plan for yourself, many/most people including fellow condo members won't have this which is why condominiums that dno't have good governance fall into terrible disrepair. Having suitably high condo fees and funded reserves protect your investment.

Thank you. Baldie here Lives under a rock 😂

She is clueless and should not have called without getting her facts together first. This call was a waste of time because she has not done her due diligence ahead of time.

You rent. Of course you pay the condo fee and the landlord's taxes and insurance.

@@mrsmith1339 It would seem that way but our rent is only $1500. If we are paying the condo fee, then our rent is only $200.

Yup. That’s how much HOAs are nowadays

It is complete mismanagement if your HOA is raising rates 100 dollars a year without an explanation

It is complete mismanagement if your HOA was so bad with money that they didn't have enough reserves to pay for projects, and instead had to add assessment after assessment to the point that they just had to add it all to the condo fee!

With no explanation is an assumption. She probably did not look into it.

@@sobeliever1638 Agreed!

I’m not a girl, I’m a woman. 🥰 Those were some serious assumptions you made. But thank you!

​@@Danielathebrand did you find anything in your email?

@@Danielathebrand Any update? Curious minds want to know!

Exactly - Thank you.

Ours charges $400 per month for an 8-unit building with no amenities. We just have a security gate, garage gate, and a little landscaping.

Someone is giving you $320 a month for free to pay HOA?

@@hanghad7645 no but if I had to pay to someone to do and manage all that, it would cost me more. Question of choice. I respect condo living is not for everyone.

@@CPMG2000 I have one as well, no problem here.

There’s also water, sewer, trash, electricity, possibly gas, insurance, taxes, and accounting.

@@genxx2724 everyone charges that, it doesn’t cost even up to a $100

@@shachede6828 It depends on the complex and what common area amenities and landscaping it has. Yes, it does cost hundreds, and I’m in an 8-unit building. Granted I’m in California, so our insurance is likely higher.

​@@shachede6828 my summer water bill reaches $500/mo. My electric and gas is $200/mo. My trash is $25/mo. My taxes are an additional $500/mo. Homeowners insurance is $100/mo. This is all for a $315k in Kansas. So yes $650/mo hoa fee that pays for all of that is reasonable

It’s actual normal for any city. Look it up.

Amen. And a community free of AirBnBs and random people living next to you for a drug filled weekend of fun lol

My non HOA neighborhood has none of that on the front lawns, AND I don't pay a ridiculous fee or have to follow ridiculous rules!!

🤣🤣🤣

Right, not to mention a 450 condo fee on a 250K condo should have been a bit of a red flag!

I got the impression that he felt it was just dumb to pay that much ...not that he had no idea they can be that high.

But you pay your own utilities, insurance, maintenance including major repairs like roof, windows etc.. and manage all the services provided. Once you add this all up I bet you are paying more than $650 per month.

Or just read the minutes and documents she receives.

I like it, people act like they are breathing down your neck while measuring your lawn length every week. It really depends on the community.

If you purchase a condo or townhome, there will be an HOA.

Also, nobody reads the CC&Rs. They buy a condo and consider it their “house”, and get angry and resentful when they are stopped from doing things that aren’t allowed.

Why go to the extreme to prove your exaggeration?

And insurance, which has skyrocketed for condos.

Affordability,amenities, and convenience. My place in Florida is $450/mo.. Has it's own marina and a waterway network to the Gulf,theater room,gym,pool,and other amenities. I always wanted to live around boats and palm trees with a great balcony view.

These are condo management fees. Always higher than regular HOA fees because in a condo situation, you don't own your roofs or walls or land. Those are owned collectively by everyone and therefore your fees are higher in order to maintain those things🎉.

@@DoctorSmartyPants yes, I know. My mom lives in a condo with HOA fees. I know all about them and that’s why I don’t like them. But have never heard of HOA fees that are 6-7 hundred dollars or more! That’s insane!

@@Curious-Lass Condo HOA fees can be that high in major metro areas and usually, the fees are that high because the building often has a lot of amenities and may also include some utilities. Also, if the building is a high rise, the fees are typically high and if the HOA has a renovation project, the fees may include a Special Assessment.

@@DoctorSmartyPants In a condo you don't own your roof, wall, or land? So technically, you never really own the condo then since the roof and the walls are the entire structure. Sounds to me like it would be better to rent one than to own one since your are never the owner of it even if you pay it off.

@@vickieclark5931 That sounds about right.