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A video response to SprinkleofGlitter's vlog about RU-vid Culture. My take on some aspects of being a RU-vidr and a fan.
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@Louisepentland 10 лет назад

Love love love xxx

@TheHazelHayes 10 лет назад

*crushing skull motion*

@georgemitchellmusic 10 лет назад

ChewingSand OMG the eyebrows at 7:11 It must've taken you ages to rehearse that :P

@kiaboyce5452 10 лет назад

ChewingSand so funny

@samlee3253 10 лет назад

Lol

@lucymoon 10 лет назад

It's always important to reiterate the "edited you" dynamic on RU-vid - it's not necessarily that we're totally different in real life, but everyone puts forward the best version of themselves on camera. Great video Hazel xo

@TheHazelHayes 10 лет назад

Thanks Lucy! Yeah it's a funny one, but worth saying I think :)

@NinjaRosieX 10 лет назад

I'm glad that you understand that we're not all screaming fangirls! I know other video-makers often don't mean it to seem like this, but it sometimes seems like all teenage girls are viewed as shallow and obsessive; if I met a RU-vidr at a convention, I'd much rather chat about their content than scream manically! This was an eloquent video, Hazel, and I'm glad to see so many people getting in on this discussion!

@TheHazelHayes 10 лет назад

Thanks Rosie. I look forward to meeting lots of people like you this year who want to talk about the content too :)

@DaveJGiles 10 лет назад

"treat someone you haven't met as someone you haven't met! " best quote i've heard on the subject

@TheThirdPew 10 лет назад

I loved this. I've had a lot of thoughts about youtube culture in the past few months and I think this recent surge of people projecting the same thoughts has encouraged me to try making a video about it. RU-vid culture has been pushing me away from my love of youtube lately and there are a lot of things about it that I need to get off my chest. So thank you!

@mickeleh 10 лет назад

Oh, Hazel, that was so, so good. What a grounded and knowing approach to RU-vid celebrity culture. Chock full of smarts. Chock full of heart. It's like Condensed Cream of Wisdom soup. If I were of a mind to put any RU-vidr on a pedestal, you would be that RU-vidr. I will be watching this several times.

@vagary4665 10 лет назад

You worded everything so very well Hazel. I especially loved the part where you said "Treat someone you haven't met like someone you haven't met". There's so much in that little sentence that is important for us all to remember. Lovely video!

@clodaghrachelkk 10 лет назад

I don't know if it's because I'm an Irish teenager but I absolutely love the 'slán' at the end! If I ever were I meet you I think we could have some banter in Irish so others wouldn't understand hahah, great video..!x

@GoodUsername22 10 лет назад

An bhfuil cead agam dul go dti an leithreas? :p

@DirectorToby 10 лет назад

:') Such great advice, it brought a tear to my eye. You're so right! I'm going to write this speech up in design technology class so I can sew it onto parchment and hang it above my bed. I love you Hazel!

@TheHazelHayes 10 лет назад

No need Tobes... I'm having it printed on a tshirt! :) Can't wait for your new video to go live by the way. I bet your whole audience are just dying to see it!! :D And don't worry, I'm sure nobody will flag it!!! xx

@thisisnotamarisa 10 лет назад

Just gonna take notes as I watch the video: I agree with what you said about idolization. I think its ridiculous to idolize anyone--youtuber or celebrity. No matter who a person is or how they got famous, we still only see what the media, or the person themselves in the case of youtube, decides to put forward. I never really realized before starting my own channel just how much viewers dont know about creators. In the 8 months or so that I have been making videos I feel like I've only shared about .0000001% of my life. Other than the few people I've had longer conversations with, no one knows how I react when I am angry or sad or happy even. Like you, I don't think I'm 100% myself in my videos either. "Treat somebody you haven't met like somebody you haven't met"--best advice ever Omg youre going to vidcon??? I'm going to vidcon!!! :D It is really inspirational to think that the people I watch on youtube who have achieved so much are also just normal flawed human beings. But I think the problem with fan culture is that people understand that fact, but then choose to ignore it. I think all of this insanity just stems from the fact that youtube is growing at an extraordinary pace. I think we are stuck at an interesting place right now because youtubers, whether they like it or not, are celebrities. I know no one went in to it intending that to be the case but it just happened. And they only way to show that you shouldn't be idolized is to do just that: show it. But showing yourself at your worst is also probably not a good idea because, first of all, it is more personal, and second of all its hard to want to break an image of yourself that you've built up. Im interested to see where this discussion takes us in the next year... wow, sorry that turned out to be so long!

@TheHazelHayes 10 лет назад

Put that in a vlog missus!

@SuperSamStuff 10 лет назад

I hope to see this in your next video!

@Michellecrossan 10 лет назад

Lovely to find another fellow irish youtuber and what a lovely video this was! I love how you put across your opinion on the subject :)

@TheHazelHayes 10 лет назад

Thanks so much Michelle. Us Irish cailíns gotta represent! x

@RisinBolger 10 лет назад

I'm so surprised I've just now found your channel! I thought I knew about all the bigger Irish RU-vidrs. Guess not! I've watched a few videos on this topic in the last few days and it's such a tough one to even begin to talk about as there are so many variables among content creators and their fans. It makes it very hard to try and generalise. I think you had a good take on it though. Subscribed for sure :)

@AdamLeeGuitarist 10 лет назад

What a brilliant video! About 5:10 onwards is particularly awesome and inspiring to hear said in a video. Some brilliant wisdom imparted here, Hazel! :)

@littlemisscool27 10 лет назад

I think it's great that people are now talking about this, and you've made some great points here - especially about treating people you haven't met like people you haven't met! :)

@VickyThePixie 10 лет назад

I hate to criticise, because this was a *VERY* good video, but I do feel that you spoke in a bit of a 'them' and 'us' kind of attitude, and it's important to remember that just because someone isn't part of a particular group of friends or doesn't have 10,000+ subscribers doesn't mean they are passive watchers that do nothing but scream at their idols. There are a lot of people that get treated like they can't see a creator's floors, imagine them complexly, or not idolise them, when they can. Overall, however, this was a clever, sensitive and well-rounded video, so I hate to nitpick, but I do.

@esmith634 10 лет назад

I completely agree with your comment. It's important to remember, as I believe Louise pointed out in her video which may be why hazel didn't bring it up, that people who go to conventions are a minority of viewers, and those taking it to unhealthy extremes are an even smaller minority (not insinuating that going to conventions is unhealthy just saying that a lot of this conversation is based on the interactions that happen there). Glad you brought up this point!

@VickyThePixie 10 лет назад

Thank you! I'm glad I didn't offend people with the point :)

@MichelleMacAuley 10 лет назад

Interesting point, VickyThePixie. I think (though I could be entirely wrong) that with the 'us' and 'them' attitude is because she needed to differentiate between youtubers and viewers. Though there is a bit of an overlap (some viewers are also youtubers and most youtubers are viewers), for the most part there's definitely a line - there are many more viewers than there are youtubers and for the most part, viewers don't understand what it's like to be a youtuber. There are even fewer very well-known yt's, thus adding another element to the 'us' and 'them'. Hmm...did I make sense there? Seriously - it made a lot more sense in my head. I watch yt almost every day and think of myself as a 'dedicated' viewer, but not enough that I would spend much money or time (how many hours do people have to wait in line to get a 30 second photo taken??? No thanks!) to go to a convention. I think most viewers are the same and it is important to differentiate between the different types of viewers. Most viewers don't take their dedication any further than just watching the videos. Most of us don't create FanFic, stand in line for hours and hours to see our favorite 'tuber for a few moments - heck, most viewers don't even comment on videos. Unfortunately, there is that very small percentage of viewers that take it to the next level - stalking on twitter, writing horrible and mean comments on videos when anyone voices an opinion that isn't 100% positive, screaming at youtubers whenever they see them and overall just going way, way too far. I think it's because of the small percentage of viewers that take it too far that Louise made her video. Personally, I'd be concerned for the mental health of those viewers that take things too far and I'd be worried about my safety if I were a youtuber. There are many incidents of celebrities being killed by their stalkers and quite a few youtubers are quickly becoming celebrities. That's got to be scary for some youtubers. (Wow - could I have written 'youtubers' any more times?! - LOL)

@madeofcoins 10 лет назад

This was so well articulated and paced! Your points about putting people on pedestals so high that their flaws get concealed is so true. And not just for youtubers but for anyone you meet in life. Everyone puts forward their highlights and conceals their flaws, and that's made so much easier by social media. I so often forget this and this video helped drive the point home, so thank you!

@mickeleh 10 лет назад

Just watched this again. I told you I'd be back. I'm not through with this one yet. It is so rich in good sense and wisdom.

@madisonbellamy5662 8 лет назад

This is so important, i feel like sometimes people forget how edited it can get on youtube, because it feels so personal. You are amazing!

@AdventuresInTimeandPlace 10 лет назад

I had an actor as my idol for seven years (started when I was 10) who I was absolutely in love with and then, after those 7 years, I had an opportunity to meet him and I realised that he was just an aging, small man. He was really lovely but I felt silly afterwards for putting him on such a high pedestal for all those years. I still am in love with the character he played (the 10th Doctor) but I no longer feel inclined to feel so strongly/intensely like that around people I admire, I'd rather meet them with appreciation and respect (which is what happened when I met him after those 7 years).

@rf7871 10 лет назад

I think that many viewers simply watch videos to get away from what's happening around them, it's something that makes us happy and feel as if we "belong" to something. And then yes, obsessive fans do start appearing but for the most of us (I think) it's about having someone to relate to, not someone to worship. Your video was really interesting, and what you said was so very very true, lets hope that things can change for the better! (not that they aren't already pretty good :) )

@piperwhitehead8505 10 лет назад

I was going to make a comment about the lord of the rings book in the background but this video deserves a deeper response. I think that the point you made about wanting to be a part of the youtube creator community is hugely important. I know that I've considered trying out youtubing and then deciding not to because a large portion of my motives seems to be because all my favourite youtubers seem like they would be so much fun to be friends with and how cool it would be for people to come to see me at gatherings, and this relates to something I saw in a charlieissocoollike video about how popular youtubers are mainstream celebrities. I used to think I was a bit above celebrity idolising culture because I didn't care about people like Kim Kardasian or people like that but that's not really true. People need to realise that by idolising youtubers or by youtubers creating an environment that puts them above their fans they're breeding all the negative things about mainstream celebrities.

@94blondebimbo 8 лет назад

Just browsing through your videos Hazel and I have to say that this is my favourite. The idea of a celebrity in itself is strange. When I was on work experience I was bored and started drawing on a magazine, giving Katy Perry a mustache and making Russell Brand look like a cartoon. As I made my way to the train station, a small crowd gathered outside a HMV as Russell Brand walked out. I hated the feeling I got. I knew of him him not about him yet he had no clue who I was. It was as if I had been stalking someone for years and not realised I had been doing it. I decided to just go home, I mean it was only an hour earlier I was doodling on the guy's face for gods sake!

@gracebeaumont674 10 лет назад

Thank you Hazel that needed to be said. I hate when people refer to others (be that youtubers, celebrities, whoever) as 'flawless' because they aren't and nor should they be, nobody can be flawless because what is an attribute in one persons eyes is a flaw in another's and everyone has flaws, everyone makes mistakes and absolutely nobody is perfect all of the time.

@sbrox101 10 лет назад

I love the 'treat someone you've never met like you've never met them' thing! That's BRILLIANT advice! Really well thought out video. I think you put your thoughts across well and you made a lot of sense and I'm glad people in the community are coming together to talk about these things :)

@StephaniehasStories 10 лет назад

I really like the point you make that you should "treat someone you haven't met, like someone you haven't met". It's so true and I think a lot of people forget about that.

@MattieG95 10 лет назад

NAILED IT. Everything you said here was so well worded and insightful Hazel, especially what you said about treating people you haven't like you haven't met them. You always seem to just 'get it' on topics like these, I think you're exactly what the community needs right now.

@vikkielora 10 лет назад

I really miss the more 'community' style RU-vid before all the perfect filtering. I miss feeling like everyone is on the same level and friends rather than fans, and likewise (no offence) you tubers presenting themselves as such. Most youtubers now 'create content' based around RU-vid itself, such as collabs or quizzes, that can come off as if they are better than others, hence why young girls treat them as such. I think that sometimes it can be misleading to younger people. I'm not blaming youtubers for portraying themselves as perfect as I'm sure we all try to do, but it does mean that they are Segregating themselves.

@TheHazelHayes 10 лет назад

Completely agree. I think the main thing to understand is that most of us aren't 'trying' to be anything other than ourselves. Yes, we might filter ourselves sometimes but that's only because of our own insecurities or maybe being afraid to open ourselves up completely and be vulnerable in such a public setting. Or as I said, in an unintentional way. The other thing to remember is that a lot of us are much older than a lot of the people who watch us and in real life I probably wouldn't have a group of friends ten years younger than me. So me distancing myself a bit from the people who watch my videos is of course in no way because I see them as 'lesser' by any means, I'm sure you're all awesome, lovely people! :) It's just me trying to be professional and mature and sometimes put in place a bit of distance for the sake of everyone being happy and comfortable.

@vikkielora 10 лет назад

As I said I totally understand that, especially with the pressure of a large subscriber base and people writing horrible things. I am a similar age to a lot of youtubers, and infact went to school with emma blackery, and so for me it can be a little upsetting but obviously you have to relate to the wider fan base and not just me! My main point is that those of us who have been on or watching youtube for a long time see a dramatic difference in the way that videos are filmed and the content in them, but its not a necessarily negative thing, it's just a thing!

@TheRedGuitarr 10 лет назад

This was a perfect way of putting everything. I admire your way of phrasing; well done Hazel xx

@TheRoyaldolphingem 10 лет назад

One of the best videos I have watched on this topic- you have basically put how I feel into words! A great video, Hazel and I hope you are feeling better. :)

@melissataylor7245 10 лет назад

amazing video. i love this discussion about youtube culture as i think it is important. it is definitely making me think about the way i act towards celebrities/youtubers and forcing myself to see them as complex humans rather than 'idols'. i loved the way to put across your point and the ending was perfect, thank you for making this

@AmyAshcroftSWAG 10 лет назад

This is actually so weird. In English today, I was told to address a culture. I chose the youtube culture, and covered most points in this video! Anyway, thanks for the video Hazel, hope you feel better soon :-)

@sashaa6714 10 лет назад

thank you for this. i completely agree. i am so glad you guys are making videos addressing this because i always get a lot of secondhand embarrassment at the people who treat youtubers, and any 'famous person' for that matter, like some kind of god that can be screamed at and hugged and cried on, without respecting their boundaries. meeting people we admire does make us pretty silly but i dont think its an excuse to scream in their face.

@GiorgiaHannah 10 лет назад

Thanks for this Hazel! Really eloquently said! I would be interested to hear about views on youtube culture from really 'famous' youtubers that refer to their viewers as 'fans'. It would be interesting to see their take on this as I feel some youtubers feed into the whole 'fan adoration' and in turn, put themselves on pedestals as well as their fans do of them. Just a thought xx

@thedinosaurbreakfast 10 лет назад

This has been a really interesting couple of months as both a viewer and a very, very new creator. As someone who is trying to figure out exactly what I want to do on this platform and even if I want to use this platform at all, I've found these videos and discussions on what RU-vidrs hope to be and achieve and what they wish for their audiences to be very helpful. I appreciate that many of these creators are beginning to think about the celebrity culture around RU-vid--both what it is and what is could/should be.

@stellaef3035 10 лет назад

I agree 100% with everything you said Hazel. Sometimes it is scary, the screaming and the selfies. I would really like to maybe just say hi, and mention that I really do like your videos. But the yelling and pushing and crowding. It is overwhelming. Thank you for making this. X

@MissEveVii 10 лет назад

I 100% agree with what you've said. I have never been to a youtube gathering though because I've see some youtuber's meetups and well... I don't like the idea of being around screaming fans. I am a big fan yes but I don't find it necessary to scream when you see someone you're a fan of. I probably would go to meet ups if I knew they were going to be chilled and whatever but is there such a thing as a chilled meetup nowadays?

@poonywooon 10 лет назад

yeah, there are loads of small youtube gatherings, but don't expect to meet any 'idols' there. you can however expect to make some great new friends :)

@ashleykaran1376 10 лет назад

Brilliant video, Hazel! I've had a RU-vid account several years now, and as excited as I am to see all of my favorite RU-vidrs growing & branching out into various creative avenues, it is slightly disconcerting to see "fans" arguing in comments, getting possessive over people we really don't know all that well, and the inexplicable screaming at conventions. *sigh* it's just all really overwhelming. It's difficult to separate the content we enjoy watching from the creator themselves. I dunno.

@eleanorkateyo 10 лет назад

i think a thing that makes youtubers so admirable is that like you said you have anxiety and other youtubers have other issues and stuff yet they still end up living successful lives and being happy for the most part which i guess is why i watch so many youtubers because they give people hope as they are literally just people but overcome these issues which proves to others that they can too. but yah that's just my opinion on the thing ^^ great video btw x

@lilyisalizard 10 лет назад

I loved the panel you were on last year at sitc. It was a crazy day and it was nice to see people I like to watch in a relaxed, controlled environment :) xx

@lilyisalizard 10 лет назад

Also, I think a lot of youtubers do understand this, but a fair few don't. We GET that you're not the same person on screen as off, and it gets slightly frustrating to be told that by every youtuber whose content we enjoy. When you first start watching youtube you do get caught up in it all, but it doesn't take long to notice the cracks in people and get it into your brain that you don't really know them. I think it's perfectly understandable that a lot of people have their youtube 'persona' which is very, very, very slightly different to how they are around their friends. I think most people in the youtube community are quite savvy about it but there is some confusion on both sides :D

@kerrangkid1 10 лет назад

Hazel you are probably in my top 5 fave youtubers so inspirational and this video justifys this and must say tipsy talk is my most fave series of all time :-) just thought I'd let you know

@AffectionateVlogs 10 лет назад

I found this through YTalk, and I just want to say that this was an extremely well-thought and well-spoken video, and I have a lot of respect for you and what you do

@laurengeall3690 10 лет назад

I loved this video Hazel! I agree with the 'Treat someone you haven't met like you haven't met them', I myself met a youtuber in public, no need to name, and didn't scream, or run up to them. I calmly introduced myself and that way we could talk and it felt natural. I think sometimes the whole problem is the way the 'RU-vid community' has grown. Now more and more people do collabs all the time, it makes a bigger distinction between the creators and the youtubers when before it was more of a 'everyone on the same level' kind of situation. I think it is important for viewers to appreciate that the creators are just normal people with a public job, and for the creators to appreciate that most of the viewers understand that and a few minority are ruining that relationship. Thankyou! :)

@nukemz 10 лет назад

Fantastic video Hazel. Looking forward to seeing you at MCM :)

@miajohnston1801 10 лет назад

The last point you make about meeting someone for the first time is spot on. I really enjoyed this video.

@GoodUsername22 10 лет назад

Personally I've never really had this problem with seeing youtubers as more than just regular people. And I'm not saying that to be all like "look at me amn't I all special". It's just that, when I started watching vlogs and stuff, they were all still by and large a person sitting in their room with a webcam talking about giraffe sex or painting themselves purple. The sound quality was bad, the video was grainy, the editing was jumpy, it was largely unscripted, but it didn't matter because they were entertaining or they were saying something that you could relate to (like giraffe sex), and there was no gap. No one had over a million subscribers, there were no conventions, no pedestals, people were just people. I still see all youtubers like that, just in "1080p" now. I'm not sure when that went away or why or if there's any way it could ever come back. Like I wouldn't mind meeting you if the opportunity arose, but just because you seem like a nice person, but just that, a person. Not sure why I felt the need to say all that. Anyway, great video! Summed it all up nicely, you made good points and articulated them well. It's definitely an important topic to keep discussing and to keep in plain view so it's not forgotten about. I can see this being the go-to video on the subject. Keep on doing what you're doing :) Slan agus beannacht

@Shikams 10 лет назад

I love how frank and honest you are in this video. It's a very touchy subject and all and I think you handled it so well. A lot of (I think younger) people need to hear this (but also us older ones need to be reminded sometimes, I'm sure). I also really liked the inspirational end, when you say our flaws are not limitations. I've never thought like that! It balances the video nicely. Thank you (and lots of love from Sweden) xo

@vickya3403 10 лет назад

The best piece of advice in this video that would solve this whole fan/creator problem is to treat someone you've never met like someone you've never met. I think that it's important for a fan to feel free to express his or her appreciation of the content, but that fan absolutely pouring his or her heart out is putting the creator on the spot. I know that I wouldn't want to embarrass myself in that way, but it's easy to get caught up in the moment of meeting your favorite creator, something that you've probably been thinking about for a while. I think that the more personal messages that a fan wants to share with a creator would be better expressed through a letter sent to their PO Box or given to them to read at a later date... that way, the creator isn't pressured to react in a certain way or even respond at all and the situation isn't awkward. I also appreciated how you framed this video, because it was a lot more about viewer and creator safety than it was about maintaining a creator's comfort level. I don't think that a viewer is obligated to handle meeting his or her favorite content creator in a certain way besides what is dictated by the law, and I think that it can make a creator sound unappreciative of his or her audience when that standard is set. Introducing reason to the conversation and some good street smarts is a better way to get the desired result than shaming a viewer for being too enthusiastic or excited for the creators to handle.

@carafitzsimons5530 10 лет назад

I LOVED THIS VIDEO.. I need this speech printed and framed, thanks Hazel! Love watching irish youtubers, makes me happy to see people from over here being very cool people :) x

@elajane2910 10 лет назад

This video really opened my eyes. I will 110% admit that I constantly idolize and compare myself to the edited, on screen versions of youtubers. I am one to connect and fall fast with people, especially when they share a part of themselves with me. I loved how you turned it into a positive outlook, how even through all my flaws I can still aspire to be something great, and achieve my goals. That nobody is perfect, and there is always another story. I enjoy your videos so much. Thank you Hazel :) ~ella

@hollyhutchon9397 10 лет назад

I want to self combust this was like one of the best videos I've ever seen. My friend idolizes celebrities, like she passed out for 2 hours after Aston Merrigold replied to her DM on twitter-.-Please keep doing this Hazel, I love it and I think you're awesome:)xxxx

@izzles_k 10 лет назад

Amazing video Hazel! I feel like you described and explained everything so well, I was just agreeing with you and nodding my head throughout the whole video. Top notch :) xxx

@TheMissShivi 10 лет назад

you say that as viewers we don't see you when you're sad/depressed/having panic attacks but not everyone in your real life would see that side of you either. No-one will ever really see all sides of a person,everyone is filtered on-camera and off-camera and there will always be assumptions.

@isabellavayoni3770 10 лет назад

I think this was the best video I've seen about RU-vid culture. The point when you were talking about Friends, and how you wanted to be involved in their 'community' is so accurate for quite a lot of people, I think. Hoping to meet you at SitC!

@OpheliaVert 10 лет назад

At about three different points, I realised I'd been physically nodding along to what you were saying. Wonderfully eloquent and interesting. Very enlightening, thank you.

@AshleyFauguel 10 лет назад

That is one of the reasons I held back from RU-vid for so long but I surprised myself with how much I like making the videos! Adore your 'Tipsy Talks'

@97Curlysue 10 лет назад

Loving the little "slán" at the end. Great video hazel! You captured the whole situation perfectly :)

@aimeeisjane 10 лет назад

This was so well thought out and well put, you and Louise really complement each other in your videos, such a good team! I loved the inspirational undertones to this as well, thats what I think youtubers should be, an inspiration rather than an idol.

@ami1am 10 лет назад

You are so so right Hazel, I've been thinking about RU-vid culture for a while now and I'm glad that there's a discussion happening on that topic. In the end, all we can do is imagine each other complexly, respect each other as people equal to us and simply enjoy both the content we receive and the communities stemming from different RU-vid channels. Great video Hazel :) x

@NinaMarieCovers 10 лет назад

Simple yet wise words ^_^ "treat somebody you haven't met, like somebody you haven't met"

@AnIntrovertMuses 10 лет назад

I have an exam tomorrow, so I can't really leave a massive wordy/rambly comment about the topics you talked about at the moment, but I just want to say that I agree with everything you said in this video, Hazel, and thank you so much for making this, it was fantastic! :)

@Ohmahlanta 10 лет назад

Well put Hazel! This video definitely hit subjects that needed to be touched on and you did it very well. The RU-vid community needs more ppl talking about this.

@aorthia.8604 10 лет назад

I really love the way you yourself admitted that you're someone who has idols and does the same thing that we're discussing, it really adds to the tone of the video :) it shows that you're not putting yourself in a position above it all (not saying anyone else does this, just saying you're the first to express the way you do it too!), that you understand why people idolise RU-vidrs and that you're coming from that place of understanding. It was a nice twist on this entire discussion, adding a good element to it in a way I haven't seen in other people's videos yet :) I don't know if I managed to explain what I mean too well in this comment, but hopefully you get the general idea :P great job Hazel!

@KaraFielding 10 лет назад

Treat meeting someone you haven't met like someone you haven't met and realizing that people who have achieved a lot have flaws too are just two of the golden nuggets of advice that really stand out to me in this video.

@SophiaHoiseth 10 лет назад

Definitely the best one I've seen so far. Thanks Hazel!

@CrazyBeautifulLife58 10 лет назад

You're right, it must be great to have a 'small' enough channel to walk around freely at conventions, yet still have your own passionate fans

@annaresnick 10 лет назад

This was excellent. I think you really put this issue well. I'm just so glad people are finally starting to talk about this.

@117klutz 10 лет назад

I haven't much to add to this discussion other then i appreciate when youtubers acknowledge the fact that we aren't all obsessive fans. Sometimes i think that i would like to be involved in the going ons of youtube friend groups as i share interests with a lot of youtubers (those that they broadcast anyway) but then i realise that i can just go out into my own reality and find just as many like minded people. Excellent video Hazel, you delivered your point with sensitivity and eloquence! :) x

@PurpleLemurs 8 лет назад

I agree with this point of view in many ways, but I think it's just hard, for us as human beings, to look at it like this. I realize that youtubers don't show all of themselves and I realize how much they've edited the video, but it's still hard, for me at least, not to connect the dots. I think it's just part of human nature that we judge a person based on what we see. How are we supposed to know what they are like off the camera? I can accept that there are parts they are not showing me, but I think it's just psychologically impossible to not make assumptions based on someone at all through their yt videos. You know what I mean? I've seen a lot of these videos on yt culture and while I know the argument of vids being carefully constructed and not showing all of the person, when I watching yt vids of creators I can't help but feeling like I know them. It's a tricky situation. I know I don't actually, but I watch hours of footage of them talking to me about very personal things. How can a person watch something so intimate and personal from a creator and then be told "you don't know me, you just know an edited version of me?" It's very hard to accept that reality, but it's true. That is just my point of view on it, thanks for the video :)

@shreeyaacharya 8 лет назад

+idk I swear to gosh you've taken words from my mouth! I have the same opinion, but couldn't put it in words! Thanks! I really hope RU-vid changes for the better!

@Aaztha 10 лет назад

This video, along with a lot of your other ones, is so great. I really admire the way you're able to acknowledge your flaws but not let them stop you. And you make me realize my flaws too but not in a bad way... You know how they say the first step to overcoming alcoholism is to stop denying and making excuses for drinking, its a bit like that!

@VintageFrillsBlog 10 лет назад

Beautifully eloquently put Hazel. Great video. Hope you feel better soon. Xxx

@chloemcdowall7716 10 лет назад

You have summed up my feelings completely hazel! I adore your videos, respect you and wish you all the best in anything you put your wonderful mind to. At the end of the day we are all people trying to find our own place in the world x

@LazyGwen 10 лет назад

Hazel! I love the dress you're wearing in Louise's recent video where your mum got Darcy a tutu. I was hoping it was a recent purchase? The dress, not the tutu!

@Livasaur 10 лет назад

I agree with everything you've said, and also everything everyone else has said about this topic, but I feel like everyone is avoiding talking about the shitty stuff you alluded to and are going 'WE'RE NICE NOT ALL OF US ARE DICKS' which is true and a fair point, but as a fan I feel like all of these videos are making me feel like it's all our fault because we look up to these people. I'm not saying people don't take it to extremes and that we shouldn't be reminded that you are all human and flawed and that we don't know you, but idk it feels like everyone is blaming the fans for everything wrong in the community when in reality a lot of creators play up to it and contribute to the whole culture.

@vagary4665 10 лет назад

I agree with all that Hazel said but I also agree with what you're saying towards the end. I wish more youtubers would acknowledge the behaviour of some other youtubers (many of whom are even in their own crowd) who encourage this celebrity culture. For example, the people who say they'll dish out "follows" on twitter in exchange for retweets as if their acknowledgement of a fan is some sort of prize, or who instagram all the celebrity-like events they attend and make the divide even bigger by mainly showcasing the glamorous aspects of their lives. I think many youtubers don't even realise that they themselves perpetuate and feed into the celebrity culture as much as their followers do. Thankfully not all, and thankfully there are some who are willing to shine a critical light both on themselves and their viewers. :)

@katem8210 10 лет назад

I completely agree. I'm not going to blame specific people or anything, because of course as hazel said people have flaws, but this mindset of the creators as "these people are my fans" kinda messes stuff up because they treat us like screaming fangirls, so we act like screaming fangirls. it's like how some people are told they aren't good enough and they start to believe it. expecting your viewers to act respectfully and responsibly will cause them to try to.

@helenMUSEfan 10 лет назад

I believe that fans are indeed a big problem in this situation. I don't think that anyone is 'blaming' the fans solely, nor am I, but everyone is able to think for themselves and decide how they approach people and situations. The "screaming fangirls" choose to be screaming fangirls. They must be aware that by screaming at someone on a stage won't get them anywhere nearer to the person they so much aspire to be closer to. The way everyone should approach youtubers is in the way you would wish to be approached if you were the youtuber. I for one would hate a crowd of screaming people who come for a hug and a selfie. I would want to either actually have a conversation with my viewers and then maybe take a picture as a reminder of our meeting, or nothing in real life at all. I know that what I say is very hard to make a reality, but it's the way I see these things.

@thesuninwinter 10 лет назад

I agree, I think the fans are a lot of the problem but they're encouraged so much by certain youtubers that they can't be fully blamed.

@neafcy 10 лет назад

Only just watched this. Very well reasoned. Nice one.

@esmith634 10 лет назад

All of these conversations about RU-vid culture and idolization keeps bringing me back to older conversations that were going around RU-vid about shipping real people (aka youtubers). My thoughts on the issue was that viewers were never really shipping real people, but as you've pointed out, characters or filtered versions of real people. I know this is a bit off topic but people are obviously still shipping and that can be awkward and uncomfortable for youtubers being subjected to that. What I would say if you, hazel, or any other youtuber feels that way is to remember that we aren't shipping the real person behind the camera, but the characters and interactions we see on screen. Sorry for the off topic message but just came to mind!

@Tildafloss 10 лет назад

I'm so glad that this has come into discussion because I have experienced something recently that has definitely put my attitude towards idolisation and admiration of you tubers, musicians, actors and the like into perspective. I date someone who is in a band, they're pretty well known in our area and at a gig recently I encountered some fans and observed their interaction with the band. It was weird for me to see these girls, lining up to take photos and squealing when one of the band members hugged them, because I just know these people as friends. It was obscure to see it from the other perspective, I know I have been the excitable fan many a time in my life and this experience really helped me to understand this behaviour from a different view point. Hazel and Louise, and everyone else who is engaging with this issue are doing something fantastic because rather than distancing the gap between the creators and their fans, instead they are bringing us closer not by sharing every aspect of their life but by pointing out that these people are real people, and have private moments and lives just like everybody else. As fans we need to learn to respect this, and appreciate them through other means rather than screaming and crying, which quite frankly is extremely intimidating and overwhelming. The youtube community is doing something great by engaging with this topic and I really hope the discussion continues!

@steph4037 6 лет назад

Very rarely have I watched a video and not only agreed with everything said but also been able to identify the fact that I subconsciously have done and do do some of these things much more than I care to admit. Its hard when you've watched someone's videos for years to actually grasp that though you might share likes, dislikes and opinions that you don't actually know them, and its hard to come to terms with that when meeting your favourite people/youtubers. I think its so important that people upload videos about this because until its talked about and put into context sometimes it can be hard to know that you actually are idolising someone and reenforcing this barrier that's ever so present between fans and creators. I know for a fact that I've done it before, whether realising or not, and I know that most people have done it too. I think this video will be relevant for years to come, even long after RU-vid is considered old. Ever since the first broadcast technology there have been 'famous' people to look up too, radio hosts, reality TV stars, actors, musicians, podcasters, youtubers and whatever's next. It seems to be human nature to 'idolise' the people who put themselves out to the public, something about the media makes the audience feel insignificant to the point where ordinary people are considered extraordinary people due to status or popularity. I guess it starts in high school and never really goes away. Its a horrible thing, probably one of mankinds worst flaws, I think it must tie into our sense of self-consciousness. Build up these invisible barriers so we can compare ourselves to what we see as success.Whatever it is it really is horrible. It really really is. Thank you so much for making this video Hazel its probably one of my favourite videos on youtube, I thought every word was incredible and you made excellent points. If you've read this far thanks for putting up with my ramble I guess, I just had a lot to say it was a very thought provoking video.

@PogieJoe 10 лет назад

Fantastic vlog put very succinctly! I love everyone's responses to this topic so far! Lovely music too.

@athomeinmyhead 6 лет назад

Thanks for this video. I saw the Sprinkle of Glitter video while researching celebrity responsibility and ethics with regard to treatment of fans--because I have also seen people make themselves very vulnerable as fans. I liked what SoG had to say, and I also like your response, and plan to watch more responses to this. I like the SoG started a dialog on this, and even though it took me years to find it, I'm glad I've stumbled on it.

@orlaithwhelan6658 10 лет назад

-they talk directly to you. It feels much more real and genuine than watching someone sit in a studio or whatever and talk in an interview. The lines become blurred and it becomes a very dangerous place. Ultimately, I think it's important to keep reinforcing the message, that although you all give your viewers a window into your lives, it is a very small window, and should not be mistaken for a complete and honest view. Thanks for an excellently worded, intelligent, eloquent and warm video Hazel

@hannahwood1666 10 лет назад

Wow, Hazel that's was great, I loved Louise's video and it's so nice to hear other RU-vidrs opinions on a really interesting subject. ^____^

@Nhoj31neirbo47 10 лет назад

Extremely thoughtful and so well spoken. " Walk around unscathed ". A basic human right that can be usurped by fame.

@Nhoj31neirbo47 10 лет назад

Another aspect of this topic; Many viewers, some of the time, may choose to watch RU-vid creators / channels as a means of harmless escapist fantasy. When watching a video as a 'time-out' from daily life they want to see who and what is on the screen as separate, removed from ordinary life in some ways. They may project all kinds of ideas and notions on to who and what they are watching. Just as creators only present a version of themselves, a viewer may choose a particular interpretation of who they are watching. This is fine in mature conscious moderation but can become problematical in the undiscerning mind and emotions of some young people. Personally I don't like to know too much about creators I enjoy,(I don't idolize), writers, painter, directors, youtubers, etc.. I want to enjoy their creations as ' art for art's sake '. I find that knowing too much, good or especially bad, about a creator distracts me from their work and sometimes may deminish my ability to appreciate their art. It is often difficult to entirely divorce the art from the artist.

@katiepalomafaith 10 лет назад

One thousandth thumbs up :) Really appreciated that Hazel, thanks

@rachelemmacane 10 лет назад

really love this series that youtubers are doing, i think it gives everyone a bit of a reality check and is some great advice especially for the very young viewers x

@12A24J 10 лет назад

this is so true, it's easy to accidently idolise youtubers and any type of celebrity because they always seem like they have so much more exciting lives and are these amazing, unreal people and you just feel like you're missing out. I'm not saying they're not good people though but idolising does more harm than good I think thanks for this video, it's so good. deffo seems like the type of video I will keep coming back to

@MaartenBlij 10 лет назад

Thanks for the reality check. I think we need it once in a while.

@eoinmaguire8756 10 лет назад

This advice was amazing hazel your amazing when I come to your channel I feel so free I don't know why lol probably because your a Irish youtuber, hardly ever see Irish RU-vidrs I'm proud to be Irish and I wish I could go to vidcon this year anyone know where it is being held?

@WaterboySchwingle 10 лет назад

This is a great video, Hazel - thank you for making it x

@KymOlivia 10 лет назад

This was such great words of wisdom. You made a lot of good points that I was thinking about the whole topic but didn't know how to say, so thanks for that lol :P

@Joyce-qg7ub 10 лет назад

I agree with you 100%. I only started watching youtubers about a year ago, and Alex Day was the second youtuber I started watching and since March I've had so many realizations about youtubers (and life in general since I'm only 19 and trying to figure the world out). One of the first things I realized is not worded perfectly, but I cannot find better words for it "someone I idolized (without realizing I idolized him until now) was humanized to me in one of the worst ways possible". There is so much more I could say (and have said in writing which I made into a 13 minute video of me reading what all I wrote in my journal), but I also know that I will be figuring more things out for a long time regarding Alex Day, I just had a new realization about him a few weeks ago, but I believe everything you said in this video is 100% true.

@Janne 10 лет назад

Beautifully, beautifully said, Hazel.

@TheScarletBlaze 10 лет назад

Thank you for this video as a aspiring creator myself i v'e always felt like the ones up top are "on the cool table" as a jokingly say to my friends ,And its always felt like this crazy rat race to get to a point were yess your hard work is worth it you have reached success you have a number you are not a nobody,thank you for the wake up call i needed i think i forgot at some point that i just like making videos and i don't have to be the next insert youtuber here for my content to mean something

@annacorlett9411 10 лет назад

I think I agree with pretty much everything you said there and even though most RU-vidrs like to look there best in videos i like the thought that you just walk around in comfy clothing and doing the sort of thing you see everyone do and I also like that you aren't the biggest RU-vidr because somehow it seems more special that I watch your videos, idk if you get me but great video :)