When they said Justin Whang was in on this investigation, I knew just how serious things must be getting. That dude is literally the go to man for the story behind poppy pics on the internet.
It's the color difference that really strikes me. The object is light brown from the left corner till about three quarters in, and then turns into a distinctly darker brown. None of the food around it changes color in a similar manner, so it cannot be lighting. And I have to say, I have had had shits where they show exactly this dual-color pattern. That, taken together with the cracks, the shape and might I add the glossiness, makes it hard to conclude that this is anything other than a turd.
Charlie with the SF poop map: "I don't think I can just show actual pieces of poop on stream" Charlie in the very next video: shows what is very plausibly an actual piece of poop on stream
"The thing that throws me off is it has little chunks in it." That doesn't throw me off; it's just one more thing kababs and poo have in common. Those little chunks propel me further down the rabbit hole. Theology, cosmology, pshaw-this pic is truly the greatest mystery.
Documenting serious amount of time and effort for the silliest things is what makes people and the internet great. The corporatization of content gets stale but this kind of stuff as silly as it is feels genuine and sometimes is very interesting and entertaining.
Absolutely agree! I’d caught the beginning of this vid yesterday when I accidentally skipped away from a live stream I was watching. I went back to the live stream once I got my hands and phone cleaned off. Just watched this vid and totally appreciate this guys dedication to finding out the truth behind the pic(no pun intended)
Did you notice that the poop is two-toned? It’s like 80% a light brown on the left and 20% dark brown on the right. I’ve had poops like this, never eaten meat like that. I’m convinced it is in fact a turd.
This straight looks like a turd that could be used on the Bristol stool chart. The change in color 1/5th way down the stool is also convincing, due to if stool stays in the rectal vaults for long periods of time you can get this darkened discoloration. That darkened area also looks more desiccated which is pathognomonic of type 3 stool. I truly hope it is kebab, but I would be surprised. 10/10 would recommend this controversy to strangers.
As a foodie, here's my take: Real kebabs have visible 'finger marks' where the person would have wrapped the meat around the rotisserie spit. Additionally, it appears to be barely cooked; kebabs are brown but not THAT brown. Real kebabs are firm, have char marks, have variation in coloring due to the addition of spices and whatnot, and sometimes have a bit of a greasy look to it. The log looks abnormally thick, dry, basic/bland in appearance and soft to be kebab. Also, look at how the right end droops into the box. I will say the indent in the middle is throwing me off a little bit. Conclusion, it's either real poop, fake poop or worse a vegan kebab.
You have clearly never eaten a UK doner kebab. This stuff has never seen the touch of man. It is like a gigantic toilet roll that arrives from a factory and is stuck on a spit and cooks vertically as it turns. It never really cooks, it just gets warm and greasy. The kebab shop owners don’t even touch it. They usually use a very sharp of electric knife and slice it straight into a tray. It’s very malleable stuff and I reckon someone took a load of doner kebab meat and squished it into poop shape.
I literally tried to recreate a kebab that looks like poop and they look like poop but are still clearly obviously kebabs imo. I posted it in wubby's subreddit if you are curious enough.
Imagine taking a shit in your take away box for a prank, and sometime later a stranger on RU-vid is presenting your masterpiece to gastroenterologists and kebab experts, trying to break it like the Davinci Code
I've actually had to pick up someone's shit out of the public toilet at where I work because it wouldn't flush. It looked EXACTLY like that, one of the cleanest and longest peices of shit I've ever seen. One day I hope to meet this man..
If Charlie watches enough of youtube deep dive videos, he can actually become a real life Sherlock Holmes. The hours of watching must equate to an entire degree of that.
I would say that I have seen too much on RU-vid, I have been watching it since it’s inception through my older sister finding it. I am not a Sherlock Holmes, I am just depressed and have so many memes bumping into eachother
As a Turkish person who’s spent most of my dinners with various kebabs, there’s no way any kebab would have a thick cylindrical shape that size unless it was “kokoreç” (sheeps intestines) which I really doubt. It could also potentially be “köfte” however koft are much smaller in size and have clear grill markings around them. Also almost every kebab like that is cooked straight on a rod so it would be odd for it to just completely slump on one side, therefore, what we are looking at is an impressive turd
As a Brit who's consumed a lot of doners after a night out here in the UK, I've never had doner meat served in that way. It's always shaved off the rotisserie. And I agree, it's not a kofta. It's definitely a box of crap.
@@H0n3yMonstah kebab in this case is not doner kebab. It’s shish kebabs which are meat on a skewer grilled over charcoal completely different from doner kebab
@@H0n3yMonstah exactly. Every kebab I ever had (I tried them in Croatia, Serbia, Spain and Italy) had meat in the shape of thin leaves shaved off a large chunk (several kilos) of meat on a rotisserie. Never in my life have I seen or heard of a kebab as a fat log-like chunk of meat. Also if you look at the creases in the "mystery meat"... shit has creases that look just like that
@@ms_0317 tried those, they are usually hard and cannot bend naturally after being cooked while the one in the pic clearly bends downwards in the right third of it. So it's clearly mushy/soft, undercooked meat is never that brown so idk how it would be soft enough to just bend to adjust to the surface undearneath it. Also if you look at the last third of the "kebab" the colour is darker, kinda like a dude hadn't shat in a few days and had his shit from two separate meals squeeze together into one (hence the different colours)
even if it was the right sized kofta with no grill marks and not on a skewer, koftas don't have that type of discolouration bc it's just mince, so the color is uniform throughout even if there's spices etc. like could you possibly get the creases w the mince? yes but not to THAT level of detail and variation unless you sat there and maybe hand sculpted every crease on the kofta
I believe the most likely reason Lee deleted the image is because he took the picture as a joke, it was a gag poop, and he had completely forgotten about it, then when he heard someone was trying to figure out who he was, he's just some regular dude that doesn't want the fuss, so he deleted it because it doesn't matter to him. It's the least exciting answer, so it's probably the most likely.
I've heard Charlie referred to as "the person who can say the weirdest stuff in the most casual of ways" and I think that's just one more example of that
Ok here's my theory: This is dog poop. As someone who worked at a vet clinic for several years and had to clean up and EVALUATE dog poop every day, this looks very much like dog poop. The one end has a couple inches of a darker color than the rest, the folds it has throughout, and the mysterious lumps as well all look really typical. Not to mention just the overall cylindrical shape and lack of obvious fibrous tissue that would generally be in ground meat? I know that you can also have meat paste that looks more uniform but somehow this doesn't fit either profile. I would also think that it would be much easier to harvest a dog turd for this photo than from a human because you could just pick one up off the grass. If this is gag poop, I must say I'm impressed because they went to a lot of trouble to add the finer details.
Justin Whang is in the case, and now even Charlie, the man who solved the Jack The Ripper case, is in on it too, that just shows you just how serious this mystery is, to shit or not to shit? That is the question
If I had a nickel every time the past 24 hours where Charlie says “The 5 stages of denial” and implies that “grief” is one of the stages, instead of vice versa, I’d have two nickels Which isn’t that many but it’s weird that it happened twice
If I had a nickel for every time someone made this reference, I'd have a hell of a lot more then two nickels. Which is a lot, and it's weird that it keeps happening.
Alrighty something I think we overlooked here: That’s a big piece of “whatever”, but there’s nothing on the top of the lid. If that was closed it would be smooshing it. I vote poop, because if all that was brought home in a take-out container, there would be juice or something on the top lid.
Yep, the go-to kebab is doner (shavings), if it was a shish kebab it'd either be chunks of meat with charred pepper/onion or a much more uniformly shaped minced mea kebab, and it wouldn't be smooth like that photo. This is either a real dump or a really convincing toy turd - the darker section on the right shows exceptional attention to detail if it is fake
That is absolutely shit. As an MD I can confirmed that this is nothing more and nothing less than an ENORMOUS shit. Notice the darker end? This was a shit that had been brewing for a while. It is darker because it had been inside for longer and contains less moisture than the rest of the log of shit
@@Ali-lm7uw Understandable, but consider this ; If one is in a hurry or constipated, the squeezing action of the rectum will in turn meld the shit into a thinner taper until it escapes, or breaks from rigidity.
I'm no poop expert(please believe me), but could it have been that the person took a shit on a piece of paper, or card(possibly coated with non-stick oil to prevent sticking and stuff), and then proceeded to place it on the PETA? I agree with Charlie's point on it being impossible to get that perfect placement, but the poop could have very easily been collected in a controlled environment(like the one I mentioned above) and then manually placed on the Peta as a (very disgusting) gag image. Again, please I'm no expert on poop or its textures, so I'd like some validation on my theory. Thanks!
Charlies reasoning for it not being poop is extremely weak. "Nobody could poop so perfectly in a box!" Dude... Let me introduce you to the unending horror that is scat pr0n.
@@100gecsrbetterthangod5 I mean, if a Gastrologist says that it is most likely a poorly made kebab than I would take his opinion. The restaurant owner also seem to think that it wasn't likely to be poo.
@@mastertubbily1812 he did videos on criminal interrogations and analyzed them, interesting stuff and there are a lot of channels that do similar content that were inspired by him
Yea that 100% ain't no kebab nor meat in general, at least towards the end he did start to opt for gag poo, which I think is far more likely than real poo based on how presentable the thing is
I’m a pastry chef who has made realistic “shit cake” before. To me, it looks like they wrapped the kebab meat in plastic wrap and formed it like that, or maybe using another edible medium.
I've been checking cents here every week since this was posted. Thank you. This makes the most sense. I can sleep again. After months. Thank you. You re the hero I needed.
As somewhat of a Kabab connoisseur from the middle east, I have never seen Kabab look like that in my entire life. It's simply impossible for ground meat Kabab to come out with grooves and dual colors. If someone managed to make a Kabab like that one, you might as well call it shit.
Charlie's previous video: Hang on guys I'm not gonna show you all shit but I'm going to look at it myself, there's no way that's okay to show everyone This entire video:
"There's no way someone took a shit that presentable"... oh Charles, how surprisingly innocent you are for your position in the world. Someone can absolutly drop a picturesque turd like that. I'm actually a bit surprised stuff like this isn't more common. Many times in my unfortunate life have I seen a single, long, perfect turd laid out like a staged piece of art. But this picture is pretty hard to nail down, it could definitly be a kebab.
“There’s no way took that presentable off a shit to put in a box” I could 100% take a shit in my toilet on literally ANY day of the week; and if I pulled it out of the toilet and stuck it in a box, it would look JUST like that 😂
I'm really inclined to think that Lee R was actually that english football player just bc of the timing of the second Lee R review immediately after being in contact with the investogator
The object looks too wet to have been picked up after being shat out; there would be fingerprints / pressure marks if it were, and if not it's remarkable that there are no streaks of residue anywhere else after such a perfect landing. That being said, the almost completely yellow-ish color of the object indicates that this is likely not meat; when meat or other organic substances turn brown (from a process known as Maillard reaction), it's usually a lot darker (like the brown tip of the object). Also, if it was grilled to that color, we should see uneven coloring based on surface's height from the grill, but instead only the narrow tip (which should in theory be actually undercooked) is darker. Perhaps the reason why the gastroenterologist and kebab expert were both thrown off were probably because it was neither; I think Charlie mentioning gag-poop is the by far the most likely case (laminated rubber or playdough). It would also explain why the original post was removed, as negative publicity like this gives the restaurant justification to initiate a serious libel case.
My favorite part of all this is people in the 1900s probably expected great technology advancement but instead we’re on a blues clues hunt to figure out whether this substance is kebab or doo doo
dude someone prolly just undercooked a “doner” kebob and shaped it that way. And kinda has a fast food greasy look.. not even fake poop resembles awfulness of a crappy kebob
It's a shit. My brother was a caretaker in a primary school, and the things those kids did in those toilets were nightmare -inducing. The pinnacle was one of the 'mind the wet floor' cones, with a big poo stuck in the hole at the top. So some kid had picked it up and put it in there. And it was my brother's job to pull it out.
@@damjanp7920 nope. I promise you on my kids ' lives its not. And the amount of piss, up the walls, all over the floor, just swimming in piss, on the daily.
You can literally see the right side being drier than the left side, because it came out right side first. The left side was more moist because it was further away from the exit, it probably started with a struggle to get it out. Then, it came out nice and smooth after the dry part was out.
as a Persian the way I've always made and ate kebab was by using a meat skewer and the thing is, a lot of the time even though you press the meat as hard as you can it ends up falling off when grilling so to be able to cook a kebab that disproportionate without it falling is not possible. they might have used another technique (but by it presumably being served in a Turkish restaurant I highly doubt that another method was used)
Neither of you mentioned the possibility of it being dog shit. I used to have a large dog and he took dumpers that looked just like this. Perhaps even photoshop. There are *loads* of possibilities
It's videos like this that make me realise just how inquisitive content creators can be. Wubby is offering a $5000 reward for those know anything about whether a dodgy looking photo is a shit or a kebab. Fuck me. These are surreal times.
Charlie OBVIOUSLY has a healthy digestive system. As a man that has been constipated nearly all my life, I can tell you with 100% certainty that it's not hard at all to... *let me rephrase:* it's not *uncommon* at all to take a shit like that. As for it not being "soggy", they could just shiton the floor, or into their hand, and THEN place it on the kebab.
My exact conclusion. I shit once every 3 days and only learned last year that people shit every day? Sounds exhausting. But yeah my shits are massive and plenty look like that picture
If i have to say they first did it on a wider area and then carefully lifted and put it on there, i think it's impossible for someone to s__t in such small space with so much accuracy.
That 100% is a log of shit, I've eaten at literally hundreds of different kebab shops in Sweden and never once seen anything that looks even close to that. That shit even has that slight discoloration at one end which I've seen on my own logs a couple of times when I was constipated. Its not much of a mystery really.
Yeah man, when I was poppin' oxys I wouldn't shit for like 4 days at a time..And when it happened, the turds looked identical to that, with the nose end being darker. Thats a turd gentlemen.
turkish guy here, there is a kebab type called "şırdan" which is made from one of the cows' digestive track pieces. the photo looks like really bad made şırdan to me
Yeah...you're incredibly incorrect here. The fact that the front of it is a different hardness and texture, like the front of the shit is a bit more compacte from being held for a while before pooping, like a constipated plug, AND the fact that it's slightly darker in the front and takes on a more greenish color in the back. It's 100% a shit. I have taken shits that look like this shit, and there is absolutely 0 chance that is made of meat. Anyone saying its not shit is doing it just to be a contrarian or whatever. It's shit.
I had a buddy who would flip the seat down in McDonald's or wherever. Drop a log right onto some TP he laid on top of seat. Then he would proceed to take a pile of rolled up TP and grab the log and use it as a big crayon and write offensive comments on the walls. Kids today have no idea what people use to have to do to entertain themselves AND post comments to the community before we had smartphones.
"That would be like the actual cleanest shit imaginable." *Oh boy,* if you've ever seen how my life went these past 7 years, you would see no difference between this & my life.
I used to live in Blackpool years ago and there was once a huge story that someone killed a girl and disposed of her body by cutting it up and putting it into kebabs. So, yeah, it probably more likely to be a piece of shit, and it wouldn't even be the worst thing it could be coming out of that place.
Turd Kebab from a Turkish Kebab shop. In my life as a pooper, I've been able to perfect the skill of taking a no-wiper, AKA "The Clean Getaway". It's taken a lot of dedication and a tightly controlled diet, but I can genuinely state that the effort has been worth it.
6:10 Although I agree that shitty cooks can make food look like shit, I would like to see someone so bad at grilling that their hotdogs/sausages get shit grooves in them.
Charlie: “There’s no way someone took a shit that presentable into a box” But what if they did it like they were using his ass like an ice cream machine but instead of a cone, it's a box?
I don't get Charlie's arguments. I'm firmly in "it's a poop" territory. I've taken many shits like that. It looks like very mild constipation. The thing that really convinces me is the texture but mainly the colour change. You can see on the end the texture is slightly firmer and darker and graduates to a lighter colour. That occurs because the end remains in the colon for longer and more water is absorbed. Definitely shit. There's no way a kebab looks like that either. It's not the normal way of making OR presenting any kind of kebab in the UK.
100%, that’s just not what kebabs look like here. One random solid slab of meat? They literally cut it off the roll (?) of it, like slices. From what I’ve seen anyway. I’ve never seen a kebab where they cut one singular slab of meat.
@@Eli-pi4eh yeah, every kebab I ever ate was basically just small and thin leaves of meat sliced of a roll 20 times larger than the one on the pic, idk wtf the thing on the pic would be if not shit
I've worked at a Lebanese kebab restaurant. Its definitely shit. Kafta and Gyro don't have that shape even if you grill them badly. Those Turkish Kebab shop guys knew in an instant.
"I've eaten Kabab that looks like that..." What kind of Slaneeshi Chaos Magic Induced Indian Restaurant do you go to dude? Here's a pro tip : If your Kabab looks like shit, probably not a good idea to eat it. PS, Gotta respect the effort the dude took to solve this mystery.
It was obviously shit, the excuses make me realize my friend was truly a disgusting person. His form of pranks involved his poo, from smearing it, leaving it, throwing it and presenting it. This would be an example of how he would present it, some people are good at handling poo. For the record, i never shook his hand.
That definitely looks like a shit. If taken solid shits like that. My theory is this: The picture was taken at home where someone carefully placed a shit into a box.
Okay I'm team Kabob that looks like a shit and here's why: The Kabob expert said it would be ground meat if it were a Kabob. His big hang ups where the creases and shape of it, but he elaborated saying, "its way too processed and corners are cut." I think they may have been pre-making these kabobs and freezing them that would give you those hard creases that could stay in the meat if it was cooked from frozen. It would also explain why its asymmetrical if they were pre making up a bunch of these and just stacking them up in a freezer. Also to Charlie's question about the chunks that could be onion as the Kabob expert also explained that they would use onion and other spices when making their own Kabobs.
The problem with your freezing theory is that the poop itself could have been frozen in preparation for this dish, and come away with the same creases.
wubby gave us a behind the scenes during last stream too. It was great. And we had a poll at the end of stream and it was almost evenly divided too on what people thought this was!
I googled “gag poop” and the first shopping result came up that looks pretty similar. Also it is named “Toilet Seat Turd, UK Import” Coincidence? Who knows😂
