i always think its funny when youtubers preface a complaint about yt with something like "I know i make money from this platform so i have no room to talk" etc bc like.. this is your job right? who in the world DOESNT complain about their job lmaooo. i feel like if anyone has the right to complain abt yt, its the people who depend on it for their income
It's probably in response to people trying to shut down the criticism with "But you're supporting this platform, so you're just as bad". A reasonable person would see it's more complicated than that, but some people either don't get it or are being deliberately obtuse.
It’s RU-vid’s fault they should change their system according to what people actually want instead of all decisions being corporate ones. For instance disabling dislikes no one asked for it, Recently changing the default thumbnail size for no reason on desktop. It’s like companies have no clue how to fix their site
Looking forward to this video, nothing is worse than trying to read comments and them being full of spam 😐 and the platform couldn’t give a rat’s tutu about it
My big peeve is the repost bots that will take comments from one video on a topic and post them on other videos about the same thing and they post like 30 comments on the same video. And some of them are quite personal too. They'll repost someone saying how important this piece of media is to them because t was their recently deceased father's favourite. Then they'll also repost right underneath a comment where someone will talk about how it's overrated trash and another one where someone directly responds to a question made in a completely different video. It is so annoying and I have absolutely no idea why people make them.
The algorithm that chooses how high future RU-vid comments appear takes into consideration how popular an account's previous comments were. So those accounts are taking advantage of that by copying popular comments in the hope of their future spam comments appearing higher in the comments section.
Add to that, if a bot just botted away. It'd be easy to say with certainity that a user is being malicious to a site. But if the majority of their comments are "good" and only a minor of them are "bad" then oh you can't ban that user with complete certainty
What the bots do is steal real peoples comments and repost and will get way more likes and replies than the original which sucks. I’ve had many comments stolen from bots and reposted. It happens a lot. And is upsetting.
I definitely think the worst is the ones that say something like "I'm better than *youtubername*" because they amped it up at one point and would talk about youtubers who passed away or youtubers family member passing away and would say "jacksepticeye's dad is in hell" and would spam the comments of support. How fucked up do you have to be to do that?
Lately there has been a bot on CoryxKehsin's channel that would spam the n word with the hard r under every top comment whenever he uploads and it's absolutely gross because the bot is not even promoting anything and was just designed to be racist
@@perplexed1783 ugh that's disgusting. It's honestly still designed to promote. Promoting outrage and anger will get people to click your account. It's so fucked up. I hate it here
There’s also the weird multi-bot “conversation” where one is like “boy I sure made lots of money through this person” and the others are like “oh please tell us more” and “oh yeah I also use that person” and it’s clearly all the same spammer and no one can stop him. 😡
You are on point with the weird fonts. It would be stupidly easy to automatically flag comments that use fonts from 4 different languages in every word.
@@kylespevak6781 putting 2 words in a comment from a different language isn't a problem, they're talking about mix-and-matching look-alike characters that wouldn't normally be used together in a single word.
@@kylespevak6781 There's a difference between posting something like this, using dos different languages (sorry I am not bilingual) âÑd sɵmɜth!ng lik3 tĥi$
one time, i poured my heart out in a comment section. I wanted to let my fav youtubers know i appreciated them and how they help me. not even 3 hours later i get replies saying "youre comment got copied". PEOPLE JUST COPY AND PASTED MY SAD STORY. WTFFFF
I think I saw you somewhere else before! Hi! It's so awful someone stole your story for that omg 😭 like damn, if it was a joke then it suck but whatever. However, copying a sad story?!! 💀💀💀 That's messed up
@@crazyowlgirlcncowner yeah it was pretty trashy of them. I think they were trying to get attention for their scam. Also thx for recognizing me lol. You seem so nice thank you.
@@12bree4 Yeah I'm pretty sure they just wanted to get noticed so people would fall for their scam. They were hoping to get attention through your story. And yeah lol. I'm thinking i might've seen you on Jake Doolittle's channel? But I'm also a KPop stan so it could've been there as well.
Little advice for live chat modding : if you press the alt(or option) key on your keyboard while your mouse is over the live chat, it will freeze and when your mouse goes over the message you will have large buttons to do the moderation action, saving you from clicking on the tiny 3 dot button.
In my experience with Livestream Chat, the Auto-Moderator tends to hold back actual harmless stream members messages, but completely ignore the bots spam and it's very frustrating.. 💀
I've also noticed that in RU-vid shorts there are a ton of spam inappropriate videos. The most popular ones being weird "workout" videos saying click the link to find out what happens next. Which in my head if you have a younger child or teen looking through shorts... well they are gonna see some weird stuff.
I’m glad to see more and more people talking about the spam. I can’t comment on any big RU-vidr video without getting “My videos are better than **insert youtuber’s name** “ and also a bunch of slurs??? It’s so annoying.
The worst is when a bot steals your comment. Like Ive written many comments and a few moments later I’ll see MY COMMENT copied and pasted by a bot. I’ve seen it happen to other people too. And it’s the actual worst. Because they get more likes and replies even though it’s not their comment.
The slurs are the worst. The spam and sex comments are still pretty bad, but it hurts to see the slurs on a channel I think of as safe. The amount of times I've had to report a bot for having a Swastika or using the full n-word is unreal
Haven't watched the whole video yet, but my favorite RU-vid spam is when s3x bots will copy and paste someone else's real comment that has a high amount of likes, and sometimes they'll get just as many likes bc no one notices that it's spam
Yeah, ridiculous how sometimes they have multiple normal reply comments, no one seeing it's spam lmao. I sometimes make an effort to report the spam one and find the original and give that an upvote.
I love the RU-vid live chat modding being like “Would you like to put someone in the naughty corner for 10 minutes or banish them to the shadow realm for eternity no take backs? No other options 🙂”
For some reason this tends to happen a lot in Animal Crossing livestreams?? Thankfully these channels have real human moderators on the lookout for spam bots, and it ends up being a mild annoyance at best. I’ve also seen a rise in comment bots pretending to be RU-vidrs and claiming that you’ve won a giveaway. I used to see a lot of that type of spam back in the day, and now it’s back for some reason. In a weird sense, it’s almost nostalgic to see RU-vidr giveaway bots coming back
So relatable. I try to tell them to stop bc it's annoying and report for spam but it doesn't really do anything so the only way to ignore it is to block the user.
a really easy solution would be requiring account verification in order to comment or chat, and/or including a "waiting period" after a new account is created. it wouldn't stop all of the spam, but help with all the bots. also i'm surprised, given google's knowledge and resources, that they haven't made their spam detection AI better. i feel like a decent AI would be able to identify patterns in language, fonts, etc that are 1) highly repetitive in a comment section or chat and 2) don't match the style and content of the other comments.
That doesn't even need AI. The repetitive messages of hot girl/singles can just be filtered with pattern matching; the same thing email servers have been doing for decades. The weird fonts are actually just different character codes. There is for example a set of italic letters for mathematical symbols. There are simple tools to convert these back and forth, which is precisely how the scammers create text with them in the first place. RU-vid just doesn't care.
5:55 YES PREACH!!! I moderate for many gaming RU-vidrs (in the 750k-2.5mil sub range on RU-vid), and whenever they ask for input on RU-vid vs. Twitch for livestreaming, the moderation (and subsequently, viewer to streamer interaction) is always my first point I bring up. I absolutely cannot stand trying to moderate RU-vid chats because they just do not have the proper tools for it. RU-vid streams are great when you are large enough to where you don't need to read chat, but if you're a moderately or smaller RU-vid streamer, they can be an absolute pain.
Admittedly, I always light up a little when I get a spam comment on my uploads. I always thought those were reserved for the big time RU-vidrs, so seeing them on my humble little channel makes me feel special
I remember when I was younger I had an art acc and a bot commented "DM me to promote it on (the acc name) 😍" and I was like "someone wants to promote my art!!!" 💀
It's so annoying that it keeps being a problem. It just doesnt stop and its so simple so solve since the comments are literally half of the time the same. Now dont get me wrong, for a single creator its hard becauses they slightly change up the messages so you often run into filtering normal comments (with the current spam I block the emojis they use and that works, but they constantly use different ones) but youd assume RU-vid with the knowledge of ALL comemnts would be able to solve this easily. Especially that they can post anything into the "about me" or use as username
Hating RU-vid's terrible auto-moderation is particularly personal for me, because one time it locked me out of commenting for a day, supposedly for spam. For context, I have never typed a link in youtube comments on this account, and I've never advertised anything, either. I have never done anything that could realistically be considered spam by any actual human moderator. Like, how did they manage to incorrectly label my comments as spam enough times to warrant a temp ban from commenting and warning about my channel potentially being deleted if it happens again, but very obvious spam accounts remain up? Why should I have to live in fear of having my account wrongfully terminated for no reason at all with no way to appeal it, all because a multibillion dollar company can't handle making a competent bot, or better yet, hiring actual people to keep an eye on the bot?
I think what's especially weird is that gmail autoblocks spam mail just fine. You obviously can't use an email spamblocker for comments but they have the technology in house to block spam, yet for whatever reason they don't. I've always found this really weird
@@kylespevak6781 you say you don't like her channel but you are all up in her comment section dude, 133 comments on this one channel... my guy, i suggest finding a different pasttime
Just one thing! you can hold down alt when in the youtube chat and it will stop the chat and if you just hover over the messages it will bring up the moderation options without having to chase the 3 dots. Still not great but if anyone is planning on moderating on youtube it makes it easier :)
After learning how relatively easy it is to prevent messages similar to RU-vid spam on Discord it blows my mind how it seems RU-vid is doing nothing :( I am like you and also indulge in relaxing music compilations to sleeping and working and skydiving and showering and to homeworking... My favourite are the video game music ones :)
The reason we complain about sites we love is because we want them to keep getting better. I still feel like Google is one of the better companies out there - they might be a bit slow at times, but they tend to move in the right direction. Live streaming wasn't an early focus, but hopefully they start making the chat more bearable. And if you didn't know, Twitch had this same problem years ago. Twitch chat was a scam-filled nightmare.
I once made the mistake of reading the live chat of a sleep music live stream, I accidentally read a guy decribing r..ping a woman in graphic detail. It was absolutely traumatizing.
those special fonts they use are unicode characters, if you are able to filter out specific words/phrases you might also be able to filter out these characters to avoid them entirely. but also i feel like someone must have tried this already at some point and if it worked more people would be doing this so who knows, maybe you can't idk
I clicked on one a couple times, you get taken to an escort or cam girl site. Now you know. I have no idea if they are complete scams or if escorts actually would come.
Love how your topics are so random. It's nice to see a new generation killing it with making good entertainment on their own terms. Keep up the awesome work.
Btw one thing you can do, but it's a little technical, a famous tech RU-vidr ThioJoe created a software script that can delete these spam comments called RU-vid Spammer Purge, it's available on his GitHub account. But I'm not sure how effective it is.
i specifically hate the spam comments that pretend to be non-creators offering a link to a "video clip." it'll be like "look, it's here: (fake link that looks like a youtube video)." they started by responding to comments asking for a timestamp or link to another video clip, but now it's just random ass replies. i didn't realize they were spam when I started seeing them, i bet _a lot_ of people get tricked by them and click on malicious links 😬
My experience has been that it's promotion of some (unrelated) YT video. But I also wouldn't click on links to different domains if I see them.^^ (I wouldn't normally click on any link in such comments, but I do check when I'm spam reporting.)
A few years ago I got an iPad and decided to have fun and make an unboxing video. Cool, fun, whatever. EVERY comment was a bot for the first week it was up. I cannot imagine what small creators have to deal with regularly.
RU-vid should sell Verified status, so everyone can get verified and now the bots need to compete with everyone who wasted money, to get their comments up top!
The problem with spam is that it scales infinitely, but most methods to block it don't. A strategy that leverages the communities affected to list low and high trust accounts but still lets end users choose to filter or not based on their own rules could be a start. Then, you can try various strategies like preventing content scraping from new accounts to stop spammers from seeing if their reach has changed.
the same happens with the shorts, the moderation about what you can post is really poor. It has happened to me several times that I am down a rabbit hole of shorts over food and out of nowhere a short appears that says "her OF is free 😎+1 edit: about food* sorry English is not my first language
Or when spam bots go so far as to bully content creators. Like right after Jacksepticeye's father passed away, there were millions of spam bots in his comments saying things like "Jack's dad is burning in hell" and "Jack deserved for his father to die" and RU-vid just did not care. And even aside from the fact that it's immeasurably fucked up, what are you accomplishing by buying bots to harass people?
11:39 I'm watching this during an unspecified holiday that is celebrated April 20th every year. I also love listening to atmospheric and relaxing lofi beats and vibes to work/study/sleep to! I feel like this problem has gotten a lot better since you made this video, and I'm pretty sure you deserve all the credit for it, so thank you very much.
I made the mistake of replying to a spam bot pretending to be Atozy the other day and they have managed to send me emails to two different email accounts and try to G chat me. Very creepy
Y'know what's a pretty fucked reason why innocent comments get held but spammers get through? A spammers entire job is to get through filters, while your average person never even thinks about them. So random people get caught in them because they aren't thinking about how a single word they used gets caught by the filters, or how their comment comes off too "hostile" or whatever it is; while a spammer can only operate on the platform *because* they know how to bypass filters, avoiding all the tiny little things that get you flagged. I wouldn't even be surprised if this comment gets caught in the filter because I swore, even though I'm acting with entirely legitimate intent.
There was one RU-vidr I watched who went through and did videos on his held for review comments and the amount of perfectly fine stuff that was there was wild. Automod has issues.
I once replied to a spam bot with some very colorful language and RU-vid deleted my response on the grounds of "guideline violation" and the spam comment got nothing. Can't believe the platform is doing fuck-all about it.
Hopefully with the new youtube username changes, this can hopefully be fixed. It's understandable in the past why it would specifically need the youtube user link, since there can be situations where people have the same name, but now since everyone is locked to one account per username, it will hopefully be a lot easier to find a specific person.
Every social media platform has this problem. It's awful, and it makes me hate being online at all, which *sucks* because as a teenager these places used to be my escape from the real world hellscape we live in. Kind of sick of it all to be honest. Can't do anything about it other than unplug, yet here I am in the comments whining about being nostalgic about how things used to be better when I was young.
I remember when my innocent soul clicked on a spam link and lived to regret for the next 3 years of her life. The reality of watching Miraculous Ladybug, dubbed in French, on a random website which gave my school laptop more viruses than it needed, or some may say every 11-12 year old in 2021.
Gabi your video is awesome as always, I wanted to say that you dont have to mask yourself everytime in Premiere or whatever software, you can go to After Effects and rotoscope yourself. It'll do it for you automatically without a greenscreen. If you don't have After Effects I'd be more than happy to do it for you for free.
I remember there was a RU-vidr doing a giveaway for a mobile phone and a spam bot was going around pretending to be the RU-vidr replying to people comments saying they won the phone. It got to the point where the RU-vidr had to make RU-vid post saying that there was a scammer pretending to be them and only way they would announce the winner would be through the winner RU-vid account private chat
I’ve been watching RU-vid for about 6 years now, with a perfect track record of never being interested in the sponsored section of a video. But, I hate to admit it, Gabi finally broke me
Gabi 🙄 RU-vid is such a small up and coming company now they prolly don’t have the resources or money to deal with this type of thing 🤔…. 😅 Also it’s such a horrible problem and the scams have to be tricking people otherwise why would they keep doing it! Creators can’t even read their own comments or chat with out all the spam stuff 😭
Automated content moderation never works perfectly. Language and meaning is very hard to evaluate automatically, it depends on context and social factors that are unknown to the algorithm or the developer. With a high number of malicious comments, it's guaranteed that some will slip through the verification and that some will be misidentified. When we evaluate such algorithms, we talk about probabilities, like x% accuracy. Lastly, people are creative, they'll find ways to circumvent the measures, such as using strange, but similar-looking characters.
If you have the ability to look up LinusTechTip’s video on a RU-vid comment moderation software. It’s a piece of software that uses machine learning and it apparently worked very well when they deployed it. Might be worth looking into ❤
RU-vid has some kind of spam filter now at least, it feels like it was added before this video was posted. I have so far been temporarily banned 2 times, 24 hours each, for just writing a comment. It's silly how some obvious spam gets through, while some of my comments don't.
I recently had this happen to me, but actually on my RU-vid mobile app, I was actually made someone a mod by just press and holding the person's name and made them mod, no RU-vid Studio needed, and you can right click on the person's name you want to make mod as well. That was surprising as I thought I had to do the RU-vid Studio thing you have mentioned. Awesome shirt btw, and awesome Mario plush and N64 stuffs in background!! 😊🎮
As a person who watches a lot of RU-vid since I work from home, I’ve noticed that there’s been an uptick in the amount bot comments have been. It’s been annoying seeing them.
Can’t wait for fake Gabi to reply to this comment lol It’s so annoying when I get notifications of a reply and it’s an impersonator. That’s what I’ve been seeing the most. One streamer I watch calls the spam bots in the chat “sexy bots” and then made an ad for her business using the same format (business name, link with a bunch of emojis lol) 😂 It’s a running gag now. But it’s died down at least in that aspect.
the problem is the way algorithm promote top rated comments. an huge majority of comments that I post are never shown to anyone, cause buried. that's super unfair. i developed some skills to always get few likes, but... unpleasant community still.
Regarding the explicit chat messages, they didnt hyperlink to the scam domains, their username is the link, they just only included the host portion of the URL
