I went through depression. I have such sympathy for those who lost the battle with depression. May she rest in peace. May her memory be a blessing. It’s just so sad.💔
So very sad indeed. Unnecessary. In a world where you can be anything you want to be why not simply be kind?! Love and miss you Jennifer. Hope all is well with you! Your empathy resonates with your viewers. You are a beautiful person inside and out!
Heart breaking. It's not hard to say something nice or just not speak about or to someone/something you don't like. This world is getting harder and harder and we need to lift each other up. Thanks for sharing, even tho it's sad
I had a classmate that was bullied for years and so were several others of us in this class. Some of us tried hard to help him, but the haters sadly won in the end and he took his own life. I was so afraid during my school years, I hardly remember anything else. We all need to keep in mind that this world is a hard enough place to live in, even without having to navigate through harsh and hurtful comments. Do onto others... Is and will always be the best words to keep in mind.
This is absolutely heartbreaking. You have such a compassionate heart, and I really love and respect that about you. Thank you for making us aware of this. Such a reminder how important it is to be kind to one another, as we never know what somebody else is really going through.
You are echoing my feelings for Lee, her family, Max and sweet Bec and Eamon. Such a TRAGIC turn of events. Somewhere in this rabbit hole I discovered Lee reluctantly started taking medication. A nurse commented that new med users should be on a 90 day high risk watch due to potential adverse reactions. No one but Lee will ever know what happened. I guess all we can do is remember to be kind and witness her incredible experiences from past videos. I watch her vids to see her in happier places, both emotionally and physically. Soar high, Lee! You burned too brightly for this world and this makes me so incredibly sad.
A wise man helped me thru a low time in my life...by asking me to truly serve (give of myself), he took me to the veteran's hospital and we walked the ward of these veterans that had given of themselves to serve...not with words but with their limbs and lives (which would never be the same). I know this will sound harsh as he said "when I feel bad about my life (self-pity in some eyes) to come on back and serve these people to get a true perspective of my life" ...we are here for a minute of time, one's purpose: "positive interaction" people, earth, etc...Choose to walk away from anything counter to that purpose...
Thank you. I know it’s hard to get stuck in our own woes and comparing ourselves to others or where we think we should be. The reality is that we are just here for a short time and helping others gives so much lasting joy. Even when you feel low you have something to offer this world.
Breaks my heart to hear this sad news. We never know who is struggling right before our eyes. Mental illness doesn’t discriminate and should not be taken lightly. If you are aware and know of someone struggling, please reach out and be that supporter for them.
Never seen your channel before but this touched me. Thank you for being so genuine and sharing this. I've felt so similar since this happened. I follow a Eamon and Bec too and a bunch of other people Lee was friends with and its heartbreaking to think that this beautiful young girl had to go through this experience and felt so dismayed that it ended this way. I've dealt with depression myself and overcome it but so many aren't strong enough to deal with it alone. The important thing is that when you post negative comments on someone's channel, you have absolutely no idea what that person is really dealing with behind the scenes and kindness goes a long way. It really could be the difference between life and death for someone you post a comment to. So be loving, be kind.... be careful and be mindful that sometimes, what you say can really make a difference in someone's life... for better or for worse.
ive been feeling the same way and even though i never met her in person it has also been on mind for many days and keeping me up at night thinking what the hell happen to trigger this decision. i loved her and max's channel.it's hard to comprehend how such an amazing girl with a bright future ahead of her could have come to end her life this way. still doesn't feel real. RIP Lee
I'm heartbroken about this tragedy. I feel the same as you. Just sad. I follow Max and Lee and follow them individually. Like you said she was open about her mental illness. And she was making progress. People who are cyber bullies are just a reflection of who they are. It's unbelievable how her life journey ended. I Loved everything about her. RIP Lee, no more pain. 🙏
Rest in Peace Lee. So very sad. You are correct. Be kind. If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything. Treat others the way you want to be treated. Take care of yourself. 🙏♥️
Thanks for this video, Jennifer. I watched her channel with Max and her Life with Lee channel too and was very shocked, saddened, and deeply affected by her suicide. Thanks for expressing that grief; it so mirrored my own. Love and light to all those touched by this. 🧡🦋 Grace in India
Thank you for posting this to validate Lee and her struggles but also to bring awareness to mental health and the potentially terminal outcome which is suicide and, sadly at times, suicide/homicide. Your questions and confusion are valid. I believe that trying to answer the questions and find reason for it are part of the bargaining stage of grief. The bargain is that if I know why, it will make sense, it is no longer part of the frightening unknown, it can be explained, and I can begin to feel better, and, most importantly, to feel safe again. Now that I know, it doesn't have to happen to me or those I love. We all do it. But the truth is that part of the healing for those left behind is pain. The pain and the acceptance of the unacceptable run parallel. Time is the biggest thing we have to accept and it's different for everyone. I'm sure she would tell us to do the things she knew to do, that she said to do in one of her videos. Exercise, be with people, focus on gratitude, practice self-care, seek therapy, explore the possibility of medication. I believe she was genuine and committed to life and willing to continue the struggle. And did for as long as she could. I've read many of the comments here about the tragedy, the heartbreak, how unbelievable it is. For some it will seem equally unbelievable that there are many out there going through the same struggle she did who would envy her. It is a constant battle to either fight through yet another wave of it, or just be at peace. Very sad. Please, everyone, encourage mental health care in your circle, your home, your community. And for yourself.
Depression is a very complex Situation. I think the best thing that we can do is to be kind to people at anytime possible, because that kindness can give hope and maybe save someone’s life. Rip to her and my condolences to the family. 🕯
You may just change/save a life, with a simple smile. One smile, can stick in someone’s mind... you may even appear in their future dreams, where even they wonder, who was that!? Why did that smile stick with me!?
I started following up her about 2 years ago and I knew her through her RU-vid channel. I feel so sorry for her family and it effects me too but thanks for sharing
Be kind! Humankindness. My ❤ goes out to her family too. Stay strong J. Know in your heart that for each cyber bully you might encounter, you have hundreds of admirers who love and support you! Sendind you good vibes always😘
Christ ! - What a waste of a young life.Makes me furious...want to abandon my computer entirely and go back to reading books ...to spite the online world and all its many vices.
I don't know you, but send you love and hugs and prayers for peace.❤ I didn't know Lee, but like you, her death has impacted me thru her friendship with Eamon and Bec.
As a mum I am pretty shattered by this too. The RU-vid community has been my social connection to new people throughout the last year. I feel very sad for her family and I am genuinely worried about Eamon and Bec.. such a loss.
Eamon and Bec haven’t been on you tube - obviously taking time out...worried bout them..stay safe everyone x talk to someone qualified if you need to, or someone you trust...im suffering at the moment, depression is horrid..be kind, be good to each other, help one another
I felt the same for them. Like they still haven’t absorbed her loss, completely. She looks so broken and he looks and sounds like he is still in denial. Thankfully they have eachother and their shared memories to sustain them. 🥺
I watched Max & Lee’s channel, Max & Occy, Life With Lee, Eamon & Bec, and several other of their friends channel. I have never met Lee personally,but admired her tremendously. I’d leave her comments occasionally. It’s been a few weeks now since she has passed and I’m still somewhat distraught over her death. I can only imagine what her parents are going through, as well as her close friends. RIP, Lee ♥️
Thank you for your video. I am a single mom with a teenage daughter who has been struggling for years with depression. I appreciate your message and thank you for sharing your feelings🙏🏽❤️❤️
Thank u for being so real I can’t believe it myself ,as a person who has been in her shoes I understand how she felt and I’m so sorry it had to end this way
She took all this hate for breaking up with Max. I think she didn't take the needed time to recoup & recover from her longtime relationship with him. If she'd disappeared from RU-vid for awhile,, spent time with those that love her.......😓😭😢
So many factors I think attributed to her decision, we’ll never know for sure, but she was definitely struggling and RU-vid doesn’t help when you’re doubting yourself or if you weren’t but everyone tells you that you should. It’s the worst feeling to be publicly shamed.
I was also moved by the news and so sad to hear about this. She has been on my mind throughout the past couple of weeks even though I didn’t know her personally. So hard to understand. Thank you for sharing this and showing you care.
First I have heard about this. Very sad. You are right, just be kind to people; you never ever know what someone has been through or what they are currently going through. I believe in today's society, you are expected to be perfect every day. Beautiful/young/rich, etc. Truth is life has hard knocks and a lot of people suffer mental health. We need to be more aware of this.
Jennifer thank you for speaking out on this tragic event. When will we learn? Words are so powerful and especially after the year we’ve just come thru, we ALL need kindness. I always count on you for a compassionate heart. I came to know you when you were speaking on the Chris Watts case.
Thank you Jennifer for this heartwarming vlog. I have only discovered You Tubers since Covid and it has given me so much joy to travel to places with the people I follow that I will probably never get a chance to visit as i am now in my 70's. Also following other peoples journeys through life. i think it is a wonderful medium for learning and seeing real life and I think has kept a lot of people sane in this challenging past year. Just looking at your channel it looks like you have some personal challenges of your own. It is tragic that the internet is also readily available for sick people like this person Dave 2D who sounds like he has sociopath tendencies and takes out his own sickness on a beautiful soul such as Lee. She did not deserve any bullying and I so wish she could have separated herself from it and recognise it was his personal problem and nothing to do with her. I feel really sad for her family and friends who are dealing with this immense loss. All the best to you Alison from Australia
When it comes down to it, bullies are cowards. They aren't happy unless they are being mean and hateful to others mainly because of their own insecurities. I am devastated as many are about Lee. Such a beautiful soul who only had the best intentions in doing a RU-vid video. I so enjoyed watching her with Occy (who loved her unconditionally) and Max on their travels. It is hard to wrap your head around how someone could intentionally walk in front of a train knowing there is no turning back. We grieve for the person she was, the friends she had, the family that is beyond heartbroken. She is now in a place beyond describing that no one will ever be bullied again. God rest your soul Lee, we all miss you. ❤
Thanks for your beautiful speak I didn'n know her until today, that news about her mase me so sorry as said it's very painful to see what happend for her, i'm so sorry for her And i hope some people stop bullying online, i've had experince of being insult and i can say 100% that how much it's annoying. RIP LEE❤💔💔😥
To be fair, no one knows exactly why she took her life, it’s all speculation, only Lee knows why. If you saw Max’s recent video, he spends a good amount of time asking that people don’t troll creators. He said Lee had a very difficult time with the negative comments and he wished he had done more to help her with it. He said he has to live with that for the rest of his life. There is a lot of emphasis from him, her friends and family that this magnitude of bullying took it’s toll. If this wasn’t that big of a contributing factor, they wouldn’t be focusing that much on it and they are. Teens commit suicide all the time due to bullying, can you imagine getting it on the level she was? I can tell you, because I get it too, it messes with your mind and it’s not easy. I’ve considered ending my channel time and time again because of the negative comments, but I know there are way more good than bad. I try to focus on that, but I still can’t shake some of the really bad ones. They take your breath away and make you wonder why you are doing this at all. They are psychologically damaging. I think that last one on her phone was the catalyst. Just my opinion though because no one really knows for sure.
Lee's death has been so mind-blowing and so sad, I couldn't get it out of my head. I feel so sad for all her loved ones,, She was s very special person.. This is how mental depression is, it steals the souls of the most beautiful souls, Thank you for caring !!
Thank you for your thoughts! I was just feeling the same astonishment at the end of this precious woman's life. So sorry for the anguish she must have felt caused so unnecessarily by someones cold heartlessness. There's alittle thing called karma. Watch what you put out there!
Sometimes you just need the screaming in your soul to stop. When you make the choice and flip that switch, the wave of silent relief washes over you and you have a moment of peace. That was 30 years ago. I survived, but that relief valve or option is still there. In the background, promising silence once again if it becomes too much. It's like a safety net or security blanket. Hope that makes sense. That is sometimes the reality of clinical depression or suicide.
This made me so sad and immediately knew you were a survivor. (Tears soaking my pillow for you). Stay strong love, seek peace in other forms... live... never contemplate that switch again, there is so much beauty waiting for you to discover! Reach out if you need to talk. 🥺
🥺 Cant stop thinking of this either. This is is a reflection of the life condition of the world Jennifer it's a deep wound that we carry and sadly the insecurities and narcissism that runs through social media will tell us on a subconscious level that we should be this or be that ,and our insecurities will speak to us the same ways..sadly the way in which we are programmed becomes this sort of stomping ground for social media to mock us and reveal these wounds we are trying to heal and pick old scabs until on a soul level..its just quite too much peace and refuge to all those in the comments who are struggling with any invisible illness u r not alone
I’ve said this before, it’s truly unimaginable, heart wrenching... I cannot imagine her parents thoughts and excruciating feelings right now. Eamon and Bec, their shared video of their beautiful friendship and precious time spent with Lee, they are clearly shattered. I’m fairly new to her you tube channel, just stumbled across this lovely young woman, starting a new van build. Only saw a few vids, and then shockingly saw she took her life. It’s immensely sad, to see a smart, funny, lovely, creative, amazing... loving YOUNG WOMAN... who millions felt such a deep connection with, take her life, what a tragedy! And for her to be bullied, after sharing her truth and struggles, hoping to help others, while she herself was in such turmoil, is unspeakable. Bullies are such sad people, themselves, using others as a scapegoat for their own pain and inadequacies! So horrible! Like you, I obviously sad I didn’t know more about her sooner. Lee appeared to be such a lovely soul, way to young to be gone, so sad for her to get to a point, of no return. Sometimes the most beautiful brightness burns so hot, it cannot be sustained for long. She touched millions with her love and light. And that is her legacy. Once her parents have time to do some recovery (which may never fully happen) enough to see past their pain and be able to breathe, I pray they find peace in the knowledge that they created an amazing human-being who left her mark and will continue to do so, through her honest revelations of her mental health journey. Hugs to you, hun... even in our anonymity, I hope to share some comfort with you, and hope you can quickly feel some peace, after this tragedy. 🙏🏻 Hugs
I too have been thinking about this tragedy over and over. I went down the rabbit hole finding out what happened to her because I watch Eamon and Bec and have seen her and her channel. I do believe the cyber-bulling sent her over the edge.
It takes a lot of courage and thick skin to put yourself out there on social media and to be able to deal with the eventual detractors. I personally could not do it for that reason. I have tremendous respect for those that do but it's a cautionary tale. It's not for everyone. RIP Lee. My condolences to her family and friends. It's a tragic and senseless loss.
Thank you Jennifer, you put this difficult video very gently. I appreciate it. I'd add, there was much more than bullying that would lead to this. Very few people have not been bullied or treated very badly throughout their life. She admittedly said that she was constantly performing to make other people like her and happy. She said that she was not true to herself, that would be a very difficult life right there.
This tragic passing of Lee really shook me down...especially when you know these people and follow them for close to 2 years now...it feels like I just lost a friend...very sad times...Hope bullying a person on social media will stop...its sickening...now I have 5 couples van lifers who are affected by this...and probably thousands of people saddened by this... RIP Lee....
Hey Bernie. 👋🏻 Yeah, truly devastating, so hard to wrap your head around it. Even looking at the place where it happened, she had to climb a fence on an overpass and jump just as the train approached. After seeing the video of her just that morning taking a dip in the ocean, it just doesn’t add up. It’s so incomprehensible. Believe or not, I’ve been cyber bullied for this video. I’ve deleted the comments, but they were not nice. It’s truly sad how people act on the internet. 🙏🏼
You cannot blame a broken heart on "mental illness". Nor can you blame a tragic decision on "cyber bullying"'. Mourning is deeply personal and the sense of loss can last years. I know. Even my closest friends had reached a point where they were telling me to "get over it". But one size does not fit all. Lee needed more time.
You definitely CAN blame her death on the idiot who kept bullying her. He obviously felt some type away if he took all his videos down. You bully her then when she kills herself you remove the evil content. He’s the real loser
Thank you Jennifer for your brave discussion. I followed Max and Lee and Eamon and Bec from when they first started. Being a bit of an oldster now who did travel adventures on my own for decades, it was inspiring to watch these young people find alternatives to the old 9 to 5 route. I followed Lee and Max after the breakup but not as often. I was heartbroken 💔 when Eamon and Bec’s latest post popped up. I’d watched some of Lee’s new van build not that long ago. You really tapped into my soul searching these past two days. I am a mental health professional but also dealt and found ways to manage with depression for thirty plus years. I had a loved one suicide in a violent way so Lee’s death really triggered those feelings. I have re-watched old vlogs of happier times. All I can say is when it comes to suicide, for those left behind, we often will never find the reason why the decision was made when it was. What we can do is be kind to ourselves and others. Lee was courageous enough a year ago to share her struggles and encourage people to get help. She apparently was getting lots of support, professionally and personally. My hope is that people will be more sensitive before they make mean comments online, seek help when they need it and encourage a loved one who is struggling to get help. Lastly, I am encouraged by a lot of the kind, well thought out and from the heart 💜 responses to Lee’s struggles and death. As my grandmother used to say, “always be kind and remember we never know what someone is going through.” ♥️💔♥️😢
So very sad. I hope it wasn’t cyber bullying as that is just such a nasty thing to do and I just don’t understand it. She was gorgeous and full of life. I hope she is at peace now and not in pain anymore. I hope her family and friends take the time to recover.
So,so heartbreaking,Thank you for puttong this out here. It is so true that we all need to step up and try to get this a big helping hand.👍👍💔💔💔💔💔💔💔 People can be so hateful,I truely dont know why? It breaks my heart for I to have 2 daughters and can't imagine going through this. Lee RIP,you wil be truely missed. Shine your light on your next journey 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
Thak you for sharing your thoughts about Lee and the difficult issues surrounding her death. I've been crushed over this as well. Hopefully, we can all learn something of value from this tragedy to make a better world moving forward.
thank you. and i recently lost a very good friend who no one, no one would have imagined would take her own life... three beautiful girls who were her life, everything going for her, loved life, always smiling, good person through and through.... had all the support and love any person could wish for... yet, she "walked in front of the train" so to speak fully aware of what she was doing and ended her life. no one knows what is in a person heart or head at any given moment.
Oh my gosh, I’m so sorry, that is tragic and mind boggling. So hard for those left behind to comprehend why they would choose this. My thoughts to you and her family. ♥️🙏🏼
@@Pozleigh yes. It sharpens us all hopefully to realize no one is immune nor are the above the clutches of true sadness, darkness, hopelessness, bullying, mental illness, etc....
Suicide is so difficult to understand and comprehend. That’s why we need anyone who has these thoughts to share and be open so we can learn. I lost my beautiful 24 year old daughter. It’s the worst thing ever and lasts forever.RIP Lee.💔😢
I am getting bits and pieces of her story. I didnt realize she was in Santa Barbara. It is a train I have taken in the past and I was in Santa Barbara two days later. It tears my heart how physically close but not enough to help her. At the same time, people anywhere on the planet can create this heart break.
I’ve never seen yr channel, but I think sooooooo many ppl r feeling the way u do, I know I am, I’m obsessed with finding the back story, I’ve watch all her videos and she looked soooooo happpy and altogether, good head on her shoulders, u wud never say she was suffering silently with whatever burden it was,,,,I’m blown away by this story,,,,,,,she ended her life very drastically , I wander what the reason was,,,,,I will keep watching your channel,,,,thanks for voicing what a lot of us wh didn’t know her were thinking
Thanks for your clear thoughts on this tragedy... I heard about it from Jasmine and Crystal's channel (Vanwives). take care! This needs to be talked about.
Im with you Jen, was really sad when I saw this the other day, but as you said about real people behind the cameras, we need to look out for one another for sure. Talk soon xoxo
I don’t think can take this. I’ve only just discovered Lee’s videos with max tonight spent the last two hours watching their Machu Pichu adventures with the wonderful Occy. I watched a load of them before seeing that they split up. So I went to the last videos they posted and although sad I respected their decision. Then the last videos where they directed us to their new channels but after seeing Lee had only post 3 and nothing for 2 years I suddenly came across this. I can’t believe it! I’m genuinely heart broken. What an absolute tradgedy. Thank you for letting us know. I’m sure I won’t be the last to find this and be shocked. My heart goes out to those who knew her. She seemed amazing. Rest well ❤❤❤️
Thanks for doing this - I followed Max and Lee and after their breakup this Dave2D really roasted her - IDK why could not figure out his problem and I would't support his toxic channel so I never found out. I hope he lives to find out about kharma - my heart goes out to family and friends and all that loved her
When a youtuber is famous and have lot of follower, parasite youtuber born to feed from other success. I never watched his channel, but i am sure all his intentions is to attract some views.
Not sure why social media platforms allow this. Each account that cyberbully gets lifetime blocked, that easy. It's not ok and shouldn't be on any social media. Words can really hurt and cause serious actions. Though I'm still wondering if there was foul play in this suicide/murder.
Tragic. Yes I have cried too this week. I never knew her met her nothing. Just her videos of this young woman with a great personality and caring persona having the time of her life with her partner. So beautiful, so sweet yet there was depression going on to the point where she couldn't go on anymore. Her Boyfriend Jordan left a heart breaking message on his Instagram along with a video of her going for a morning swim and then she was gone just a few hours later, he says. He said that he understands that he will never understand
Oh my God I agree with you I didn't know who she was until this happened and I can't stop thinking about it and it's so sad because she didn't give any indication in her videos . I feel bad for her present partner cuz everybody keeps talking about Max and I feel sorry for him but I feel sorry for Jonathan cuz that's who she was with. I can't imagine how much hurt she felt to stand in front of a train really being in pain to want to have that pain . Thanks for the video I hear what you're saying cuz I feel the same way
I learned about or yesterday, as I looked for news about Occy. It swirlls in my head, and occupies my thought. As i know firsthand about the pain in depression i can imagine that sometimes to step out of life is the only way to stop the pain. My father did it, and i tried, but fortunally got good help. I cannot say why Lee took of, but i respect het choice and will greeve. I am sad😪
When you invest in a relationship. A person you cherish beyond anything you ever known. They have decided to separate and go their separate ways. It was a decision. She was not alone in taking the dark road to not wanting to be with us earthlings. I believe we all have to wake up and shake off all that negative to push forward. I was too in her mindset. I am still here. 7 years in remission for Breast Cancer. Engaged to a Gorgeous man and living my best life! Don’t get me wrong I will never be able to thank that little voice in my head for swaying me into the direction I am today. Pretty Lee ❤sweetheart, rest in the knowledge that you are so missed and we will support your channel still by rewatching your content! L❤ve and light, New Zealand salute you as you fly free.
Very tragic. RIP AND Condolences to her family. I always say to my kids if you have nothing positive to contribute to someone's page please don't put a comment x.
Your video describes exactly how I feel about Lee...I can't get her off my mind. I knew her from Emean and Bec and watching their travel and quarantine videos with her. I think about her last moments and wonder what she was thinking... I too initially thought she had walked on to the tracks and couldn't fathom how she had done that but in reading articles about the death before she was identified as the victim, it appears she jumped off the overpass and wasn't already on the tracks. Which leads me to wonder if she changed her mind after she jumped...what was going through her mind at that moment...and it just breaks my heart. I just can't imagine it to be real 💔 😔 💔 Her video a few months ago seemed so optimistic and she had such support and coping tools 😭 She was so in love with Jordan... It's a complete tragedy and I pray she is now at peace and that her loved ones can somehow move forward 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Oh no! I hadn't read that! I need to know more. Any clues to know why this happened or whether she truly meant for it to happen is what I need because my brain can't accept this. It's so devastating and shocking. Thank you for your response. 💗🙏
@@Pozleigh Hi there...I just posted another comment on this page...something about a medication reaction is the only thing letting me process this horrible situation. Not many specific details, but I have seen anti-depressants sometimes have the complete OPPOSITE effects than their intended desired outcome. Sadly, we will never know.
@@cariwilband2540 that definitely could have happened but like you said, we'll never know 😔 She said she was only on like 10mg of her meds, the least she could have prescribed and it just alleviated the feeling of the heaviness in her chest. Then again who knows what happens behind closed doors or if that had changed since. Maybe it was that Dave2D guy who roasted her on line who got to her or maybe something happened in her personal life or relationship we're not privy to...I just listened to her guest appearance on the REROOT podcast and I JUST CAN'T comprehend how she was so happy and positive on 3/1 and no longer with us on 3/26... What happened to make such a drastic change in her life? She was such a beautiful person inside and out and so self aware. My heart is breaking and I just can't get her off my mind, it seems so surreal.
@@Pozleigh I've been reading different things on line to try to make sense of it all. I realize it's really not any of my business but I just feel a need to know more... I can't explain why, but it has really effected me. I need to try wrap my head around it all so I'm hunting for as many facts as possible to understand it the best I can. When she was reported missing by her loved ones they did say she had been expressing suicidal thoughts so it must not have come out of the blue. Recently a woman had died hit by a train in her area so maybe that gave her the idea... I read a headline that she was actually the 3rd person to be hit by a train in the area. I'll post some links to things I read that might be helpful for you to understand better too. Her poor boyfriend 😭 She referred to him as her future husband! He must be so heartbroken and feel so guilty (even though it's not his fault). If only time could be turned back, if only she had called Jordan, Bec, her family, a friend or her doctor instead of going to that overpass!!! Someone commented that maybe if Occy had still been with her she'd still be here because in an interview she said one time when she was suicidal she didn't do it because she couldn't leave Occy but I'm pretty sure Jordan lived with her from an Insta post she made saying "they" needed to get a new place and he has a dog... It does make me sad to think that if Max & Lee had never started a RU-vid channel this most likely wouldn't have happened because her depression stemmed from all the public exposure, pressure and cyberbullying 😭😭😭 Soooo many what ifs...but I can't think like that. It is what it is. I can't find where I read it but in one of the articles I believe it said it was a confirmed suicide which makes me think it may have been caught on camera or there were definitely witnesses as mentioned but not confirmed in one article. In one thread of train chatter (after reading 3rd link down scroll down all the way and read comnents) a person who was on the train comments and said they hit a 2nd person that day too. I just can't begin to imagine someone ending their life that way, it's just so extreme!!! The poor conductor 😭😭😭😭😭 I'm not sure if you saw her Instagram yesterday but they brought her home and had some sort of gathering in her memory and lit candles in her honor. They posted a beautiful picture of her at peace on the beach which is how I like to picture her now. Rest in peace Lee 🙏🏻🕊💓💒 I'm so happy we have your videos and words of wisdom to look back on ❤🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🤍 Once again my heart goes out to her family and friends. Such a tragic and senseless loss, she had such a bright future ahead! 😔 www.google.com/amp/s/www.noozhawk.com/amp/sheriffs_office_releases_name_woman_killed_train_santa_barbara_20210329 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QOIfb7MS5Og.html www.edhat.com/news/pedestrian-identified-in-fatal-train-collision www.google.com/amp/s/www.noozhawk.com/amp/pedestrian_struck_and_killed_by_train_in_goleta www.google.com/amp/s/www.ksby.com/news/local-news/santa-barbara-police-searching-for-at-risk-missing-woman%3f_amp=true
Hey Deanna, I listened to REROOT also and realized that was recorded before she traveled down to California, I'm guessing around December 2020. She was definitely still in Canada at the time of the recording. Eamon and Bec probably recorded a bunch of episodes and were slowing releasing them a week at a time, that's common in podcasting. Anyway, I had been under the same impression that she had taken her life 3 weeks after the podcast, but it had only been released on March 1st. I've watched her last RU-vid video and could feel this sense of being overwhelmed with editing, content and timelines. She was promising weekly videos and stopped Feb. 7th. Nothing after that. She was dealing with something. I have a theory about her troubles, I don't think she was in love with Jordan at all, she was trying to fill a void - Max. There was zero chemistry between Jordan and Lee (just none, he's no Max)...Max and her were what people dream about when they want that beautiful fairy tale romance. Her affection for Jordan feels totally put on for the camera. I think she made a decision to leave Max and traveling because she thought that's what she wanted and she regretted it, she saw Max moving on and she tried to move on with new things (golf, cycling, Jordan, new van, new place, new location, new channel). Now she has to prove to everyone that all of this was worth leaving Max, always having to prove because she was ridiculed for leaving. The pressure became too much and she got in too deep. I absolutely agree that she wouldn't have gone down this hole otherwise. The last screenshot on her phone was that of a nasty message from someone on RU-vid trying to give her their "advice" (I read that on a post from Sophie Jaffe, one of her friends). I too, cannot stop thinking about the actually moment it happened. Did she wish a split second before that she didn't want to die. Did she jump? Was she just standing there waiting? I can't stop thinking about this woman who was so in tune with her physical body would end her life in a way that would mutilate her vessel like a train would. I don't mean for that to sound shallow, I just blows my mind. The terror she must have experienced right before, I just can't wrap my head around it. Maybe I should make another video. I swear, I didn't realize I had so much more to say. It's eating at me. I did read about the service also, I'm all over the web trying to find any new piece of information. ALSO, Max's last video is of him and a new lady friend spending a weekend together alone in her van. It was clearly not a just friends weekend. There were shots of him running naked to the water, the girl is flirtatiously playing with her hair constantly. That was released February 28th. Maybe I'm wrong, but as much as she had seemed to have moved on, she even said on Reroot that watching Max's videos had been tough, I think she just wasn't over him. Having to see him vanning with another woman made me feel sick honestly. It felt weird and wrong after seeing Max and Lee on their many adventures and their chemistry. I think she had a mountain of sadness, pressure, confusion, depression and bullying that tipped her over the edge.
Non of us that followed her channel have any kind words for her trolls. This is just sad beyond belief. I just cant imagine the turmoil she must have been dealing with.
Omg I follow eamon and bec I haven't seen latest yet, people that bully on utube have a sad life they can't stand people been happy so if it upsets the bullies great there always so tough behind a screen 💪☺️