Zack Snyder's Justice League (2021) VS The Avengers (2012) 

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“You only need to watch two movies (Man of Steel and BVS) to see ZSJL” I think this would work, but I’d argue the experience is WAY more meaningful if you watch Wonder Woman 2017

Essentially, ZSJL feels like a movie that was ripped straight out of a comic book in terms of its color, tone, and dynamic action scenes. Then again, Zack's color palette style has always added a sort of dreamlike state that I feel works well for CBMs, especially 300, Watchmen, and ZSJL. Now, I will argue that there are character moments for most of the characters, such as Black Widow silently admitting to Hawkeye that Loki's words got to her, Tony and Bruce's dialogue, and Fury's scenes with them. However, as a writer, Joss is better working with characters than working with action, and he's a TV director more than a movie one. He did have some creative fight sequences, but there was no way he'd beat Zack in terms of spectacle, dynamic combat, and sheer heaviness.

Honestly, the difference between both movies is exactly why I love both. DC has always had the reputation of being larger than life while Marvel has always seemed to be more subtle, and closer to the dull everyday struggle for the heroes. I like that Marvel heroes feel more petty in comparison to the DC heroes. It makes sense the that the conflict in Avengers feels less intense than the one in ZSJL. If both were the exact same, than there is no creativity involved. It works and I'm happy we get to be spoiled by both of them

Despite my love for the first avengers film, Zack Snyder’s justice league will always be one of my favorites. The experience I had and the expertise of how well made this film is simply amazing. From the breathtaking visuals, stunning cinematography, top-notch special effects, incredible directing and phenomenal acting to the drama, serious tone, intelligent story and deeply compelling characterizations of all the main characters. Also delivering one of the best soundtracks I’ve ever heard and some badass action sequences. There’s also countless details which includes parallels, Easter eggs, references, symbology and imagery which I find absolutely fascinating. The cast was perfect and the rewatch value of the film is high. Ironically time flies by swiftly with this flick. This is why I believe Zack Snyder’s Justice League is a true work of art. 9.8/10.

Here's the thing, I liked avengers. But, just looking at these clips side by side it's almost embarrassing how much more visually beautiful justice league is... It's such a heavy and important feeling film. Like a living graphic novel

I will say though, in defense of the argument scene from The Avengers, it was heavily implied that the mind stone (which is theorized to have a will of its own) was influencing each of them by heightening their emotions in that moment. Hell, Banner wasn't even aware that he was holding it in his own hand.

To be honest I had chills all over my body watching ZSJL. Cyborg was indeed the best and GOAT

Man Of Steel was deep enough for me to love and understand Superman. Before that i always had a mixed feeling about this character. But MoS really showed me what made Clark Kent Superman and the struggles he had to face throughout his life while trying to find his identity and purpose in this world. He feels more human and relatable which was lacking in previous iterations. This movie gave me a new insight towards superheroes, especially Superman.

I don't have any word to express how accurate your take on both of these movies. We even have the same opinion on the villains, especially Loki's ungodly treatment

I agree Infinity war is the greatest avengers movie of all time. And I also agree with the majority of the points you made with avengers versus Zack Snyder's Justice League.

I do really like the Avengers, but Zack Snyder's Justice League is just a much better movie and I can't decide whether it or Aquaman is better.

Both movies are great movies when you consider the time they release. Avengers feels very 2010s (released in 2012) and ZS justice league feels more fitting with what we currently have on TV and film.

18:25 honestly, I think Transformers: Dark of the Moon is very underrated and the climactic action scene is probably in my top five action scenes, especially when Michael Bay got people in wing suits to actually fly over a city which Micheal Bay then digitally changed to make the city more destroyed and of course, add more explosions

I’m glad you finally made another Vs video of ZSJL! Thank you Eric! I love your superhero videos the most! Especially The Batman, ZSJL, and Spider-Man. Really, you are very appreciated!

ZSJL is easy one of the best CMB movies of all time The color, the story, the soundtrack, everything is amazing

As someone who have never had an issue with Avengers, still is one of my favorite comicbook movies, and yeah maybe you are a little harsh.......but I can see your points here as valid, specially comparing this film with Zack Snyder's JUSTICE LEAGUE, if was a fight between Joss Whedon JL vs Avengers yeah I would go with Avengers, but Zack Snyder version is sooo much superior in all ways, I actually think stand up even vs films like Infinity War (not saying is better, just that in a vs fight, both sides will get points), JL Snyder cut is an amazing beautiful film, and the developed of the characters, the villain, the music, the action the cinematography is just on a whole different level compared with Avengers, so as an AVENGERS 1 FAN, I can say, JL is the better movie, I totally agree.

6:53 This is the BIGGEST thing that average viewers overlook, and it really bugs me. The whole arc of Batman was to show he was going bad in BvS, but turned good at the end and remained good in this movie. He was always meant to not be that killer we saw

Unironically The Avengers is Joss Wheadons best work and I fricking hate him as a person and Snyder Cut is better by Far no contest

The thing with The Avengers is that when it came out is was a pretty big deal and it seemed like a big deal but when I go back and watch it now it doesn't feel like it mainly cuz of movies like IW,ZSJL,ENDGAME etc the movie itself doesn't feel like it the shots feel like a tv show not every shot but many of the shots are generic atleast to me. The movie came out when we never had a big superhero team up on big screen so it felt great but rewatching it now it feels decent, not really great and not really bad like it just served it's purpose for more greater films.

Honestly i like Both Movies. They are awesome

As an MCU fan i've been watched Zack Snyder's justice league and i gonna say ZSJL is WAY far better than The Avenger 2012 even a snyder cut could beat the whole avenger 2012 movie (imo)

The truth is that Zack Snyder's Justice League has a level of epicity much higher than that of the first Avengers, so much so that the moment in which the Flash makes use of the speed force reaches the same level of epicity as the snap of Tony Stark in End Game.

18:24 TF Dark of the Moon has one of the best final action set pieces of all time. The whole final hour of the film is just a giant action scene made up of many many different/unique action scenes intergrated into the 1 hour battle. Hate Bay all you want, but his action/Choreography and Special Effects were fucking amazing in the TF movies, DOTM especially.

ZSJL VS Infinity war doesn't make sense because Infinity war has far more building up to it. Isn't something like 20 movies that's like 40 to 50 hours? Hopefully with the discovery merger we get part 2 and 3.

I 100% agree Zack Snyder justice league is the better movie.

When you compare this to your previous Justice League vs Avengers video, it only shows just how much you've come and improved so much!

Iron Man & Cap recruiting the Avengers makes a lot more sence when you think about it. Great point Eric.

I think zack snyder justice league wins, it's just better in cinamatogerphy, storytelling, but the avengers cool to, I watched it when I was a kid, still has a soft spot for it, but I still like the snyder cut more, it just has better stakes, and a better villain, hes terrifying

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I gotta say, as much as I love Avengers, and as much as Marvel guy I am, I definitely think that Zack Snyder's Justice League is better. I personally prefer how and why the Justice League get together than how the Avengers get together. Each member is going through their own pain and trauma, so when they get together, truly together, you feel glad for not only the world being saved, but you feel happy for the Justice League Members themselves for getting through their problems. It felt like an overall more emotional, serious and purposeful story. I'm gonna say it, ZSJL is one of my favourite CB movies of a time, and definitely my personal top 3 favourite DC movies overall. #RestoreTheSnyderVerse

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The DCEU has one of the saddest legacies ever as a franchise. There are so many terrific films like Aquaman, Shazam, The Suicide Squad and the first Wonder Woman. And yet because of their poor creative choices during their first five years whether it’s the quality of Man of Steel and Batman v Superman or them meddling in movies like Justice League, most people are going to see this franchise as a failure and the amount of bad press caused by actors like Ezra Miller and Amber Heard have only made DC’s reputation infinitely worse.

I like The Snyder cut better than The first avengers Lol People Got made at Me.

There is a simplicity to the first Avengers that I find charming over the one Avengers movies that feel less self contained. I feel you could watch first Avengers without any of the other movies prior and still get close to the same enjoyment out of it. I know it’s popular now to hate Whedon and while The Avengers is not perfect(as you said it kind of looks like an expensive tv show), it still set the bar for shared universes going forward for better or worse. It was a first and that novelty was a big deal. That’s probably why Age of Ultron was somewhat underwhelming for some people. The only way Marvel could recapture that magic was to raise the stakes and the scope with Infinity War and Endgame. In any case, I think it’s a really good film with a simple setup, fun action and engaging characters and banter. It’s a shame Marvel afterwards went over board with the Whedonification of everything and I say as someone who likes Whedon overall. However even though I am not the biggest fan of Snyder’s Man of Steel or BVS, I loved his Justice League to my surprise..It felt like a giant comic book issue. An epic comic book rock opera. It has all the excesses that come with Snyder(slow motion, music video needle drops, self indulgent, self important), but here I kind of loved it. Just the sheer audacity of this 4 hour movie. The story is refreshingly simple after how convoluted BVS was and the movie is able to breathe allowing for actual character development which is usually not Snyder’s strong suit. This allows the big moments(emotional and visual) to land more. While I wish the film had more color, it is beautifully and stylistically shot. Junkie XL’s score is sweeping. The humor surprisingly lands and yet it’s never overbearing. It’s reasonably well paced despite it’s runtime and once again it gives it that epic feel. I never would have guessed Snyder was actually capable of making a heroic film, but I guess he wasn’t lying implying BVS was the dawn of justice. Excluding the Joker unnecessary epilogue, the ending montage hit me hard and this is the Justice League film I was hoping for. I always thought Whedon was the better storyteller and Snyder the better filmmaker, but this might have changed my mind.

I feel like Zack also knows the character's powers and abilities better, especially with Flash's speed and the water manipulation bit

My extra category: superhero line up scenes. When I saw The Avengers for the first time I thought there wouldn't be a superhero line up as good as the Avengers but Zack Snyder's Justice League not only has a better superhero line up but has the best superhero line up. So the winner with the far, far superior superhero line up is Zack Snyder's Justice Leauge.

There's only 1 thing that I'd argue, and it's primarily because I'm a bit of a completionist. I'd argue that the extended edition of SS and the solo WW film should be viewed in addition to MOS and BvS(Ultimate Edition). I suggest this for 1 explaining Diana's backstory as well as a concept that is utilized when Steppenwolf is killed(only a god can kill another God, so Diana could decapitate Steppenwolf). 2 introducing Harley(who Knightmare Bruce refrences) and the Joker(who they show in that Knightmare).

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The Avengers didnt age well, it was already an ugly as fuck looking movie even back in 2012 compared to other big blockbusters like The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus, the thing looked like a TV movie at times carried by the novelty of watching all these characters togheter for the first time. It not just a 2012 thing, most Marvel movies are ugly as fuck, its pretty telling when your 2021 Spider Man movie looks worse compared to movie made in 2004 about the same character, the only ones with any sort of good visuals are James Gunn Guardians movies.

I’m gonna have to say Justice League is FAR BETTER and it’s not even close. The Avengers isn’t a bad film. Not at all, but it’s only good for a couple of laughs and an epic battle. And I don’t care what the common opinion is on this, I’ll watch Man of Steel and Batman v Superman any day over most of the 5 movies that lead up to The Avengers (only one that’s great is Iron Man which is way better than The Avengers movie itself). Avengers can be a great film, but man Justice League just gave us an amazingly put together film. Hell I’ll watch Justice League over any of the Avengers films (yes even over IW and Endgame).

Snyder’s JL would’ve been a huge hit had it been released in theatres. The scale of the movie felt huge and it would’ve surprisingly blown people away I think. Like the Amazon fight scene is crazy and the opening credits was such a cool way to open a movie and it literally picks up right after BvS. Steppenwolf would’ve surprised a lot of people too on how powerful and brutal he was. I mean the black suit and flash reversing time all would’ve made people jump and cheer in a packed theater. Though besides these movies being their first outing as a team, I think IW would’ve been a better comparison bc the stories are pretty much the same.

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All I can say is Joss Whedon. Take him out of the filming/directing process, and your movie is already that much better. Great video! I enjoy both movies, but ZSJL is on another level. How messed up that WB wanted to copy what Whedon was doing with Avengers and Zack Snyder's cut was looked at as the inferior product? #RestoreTheSnyderVerse

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My story of the 1st Avengers movie, When I was 9 years old I saw Ironman 1 in the theater and loved it, saw Incredible Hulk on DVD and liked it. Then I skipped out on the rest of the movies, not knowing they were connected, and found it strange that Rob Downey was at the end of Hulk and was confused why when my dad pointed it out. I did not watch Avengers in the theater when I was 13, because I only liked and knew Ironman and Hulk. No Spiderman, and no idea who the villains were. So rather than experiencing this epic movie with confusion, I missed out on it. When I finally watched it on DVD, I loved it

The Avengers(2012): Superhero movie with light hearted tone, jokes, banter, great action and good cinematography but less character development & arcs, lack of storytelling and unfair treatment of main characters(Only Loki got better character development because of Tom Hiddleston's performance). Zack Snyder's Justice League: Superhero movie with flawed yet deep understanding, dark & serious tone, great cinematography and better storytelling but had show deeper character development & arcs of each main characters, Steppenwolf and Darkseid were both scary and more intimidating villains & a redemption not just heroes but also Zack Snyder himself(Your daughter will so proud of you, Mr. Snyder).

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Don’t forget Wonder Woman before watching justice league

I love both with my whole soul. They both did what I thought was impossible in my lifetime.

I was waiting for this for a long time

I like both movies, it will be an interesting comparison though

Thanks for the video, Eric. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like you don't release as many videos as before, maybe because you're busy, but again, that's probably just me.

ZSJL > Avengers

You make some really interesting points

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Loved both but ZACK'S movie was better in every aspect, especially visually.... You hear that Whedon?

I gave my copy of Avengers to my kids when I tried to rewatch it a third time, and just couldn't concentrate... no longer interested in that style of film making, I guess? However, I've rewatched ZSJL half a dozen times, and it just improves every time. Same with Infinity War... Watching the film a second time on disc was almost painful, but it was a fairly good laugh at the cinema. MCU films are pretty good fun first time round, but imho they're not robust enough for repeated viewings. One of my requirements from a great film is its longevity in rewatching it many times over.

This video is a HUGE W. Well said.

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Eric, have you have seen the Christopher Reeve Superman movies? Knowing how you prefer your comic book movies to be more grounded and serious I’m genuinely curious to know your thoughts on those movies.

Amazing video again Eric, boredom healed

I think they’re both of equal quality. Neither really makes sense but both are awesome and very different with their own identities

This video is amazing, it's true that if you look at both zack snyder's justice league and avengers 1, zack snyder justice league has more themes and more story behind it and more indepth character moments and arcs. but Justice league probably wouldnt have been possible of avengers hadn't come before it.I also think justice league is visually stunning there are scenes in justice league that I would love to put on my background. Oh and I gave the video a like.

Given the timing, it is quite appropriate that you uploaded this video. It marks both the 10th anniversary of The Avengers and the 1-year anniversary of Zack Snyder's Justice League. I currently have both on 4k Blu-ray, and this is for display. I want to build a small Hot Toys collection dedicated to Zack Snyder's Justice League and the first Avengers. Currently, I am waiting for my diecast Mark 7 Iron Man to come. And a few months ago, I was able to order the long, loooooooooooooooooooooooong awaited Cyborg figure from Hot Toys. I am debating with myself as to which figure, from which franchise to get next. Hulk is expensive. I am eager to get the two pack of Knightmare Batman and Black Suit Superman (if only to get the latter). 10 years ago, Captain America was my favorite Marvel hero, and would make a great companion piece with Iron Man until I can continue growing the collection. Same goes for the Flash, he would be a fantastic companion with Cyborg. I would also like to get the deluxe editions of Batman and Wonder Woman, if only to get the Mother Boxes. The Atlanean Mother Boxes comes standard with Aquaman. I guess in the meantime, I'll wait until May 4 to cook some shawarma.

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I don't think it would be fair to compare ZSJL with IF like you did with the first Avengers film. They're very different films. One is supposed to be the beginning of a team up and an over arching storyline BUILDING UP to Darkseid, and the other is a a near culmination of almost 10 years worth of films with the pay off of building to Thanos in it.

Here is one thing that makes ZSJL better. In avengers the climax is kinda underwhelming. Which is meant to be the most exciting part. So it didn’t feel like a climax. While ZSJL had a climax that was the best part of the movie. Which is saying al lot. It actually felt like what a climax to a story should be.

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If only Zack Snyders Justice League existed in 2017. The problem is, the DCEU will always carry the baggage of Josstice League on it's shoulders which ruined the DCEU moving forward. And they also needed a second chance to make a better movie than Avengers. Marvels Avengers didn't need a second chance, their first impression was their best and that's why the MCU is very successful to this very day.

You should do age of Ultron vs joss whedon justice league That would be a good comparison imo

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Definitely Zack Snyder’s Justice League

Avengers movie was first of its kind. It was the first time something to this extent ever happened. So they were really going for a light hearted superhero crossover spectacle where they obviously didn't wanna go too deep and make it any kind of depressing. So for what it was set to do, it did its job well and beyond and prove that it's really possible to make an universe and be successful. And the movie overall was so much fun. But JL was a better overall movie

And after doing ZSJL vs Infinity war do a versus vid on ZSJL vs Endgame

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One thing DC does best is power dynamic. You will actually get the sense of danger and stakes whereas Marvel has Nat a mere human going against aliens, Ned suddenly doing magical portal which took Strange yrs to practice. MCU always has been inconsistent with their power chart. Which is why alot of time it feels very less intense.

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Both are awesome.

Cap and Iron Man recruiting a team, what a brilliant thought! P.S Im genuinely agree with everything you said, ZS Justice League is in a class of Infinity War kind of movie, as flash said one of the best of the best.

Thank you for comparing these two films. Whether you love or hate either one, I got so tired of people trying to compare ZSJL to IW, or Endgame, when this was literally the DC equivalent of the first Avengers movie.

Hey Eric what do you think to compare both (justice league and watchmen) comic book movies made by Zack Snyder

"It did feel a little contrived for the heroes to start turning on each other." "To turn on each other felt very out of place for them." ....uh, no shit. Did you seriously never notice why this is? It's because Loki's scepter held the Mind Stone. Because of their proximity, the stone was influencing their minds and causing them to turn on each other. There's even a shot focused on the scepter with the Avengers arguing in the background, to visually show that the scepter was turning them against each other... How could you have missed this???

I enjoyed MoS and BvS and I think others will too in time. Like fine wine 😂

Hello Eric how are you today I watched the batman movie and it was amazing and what do you think about total drama In the beginning of the video and what you think about the upcoming dc movie that got delay

Will u be doing the Batman vs the dark knight and obiwan Kenobi vs revenge of the sith

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I feel like it is unfair to use the original Avengers because it was the first of it's kind

The Flash's theme song in the end is chef's kiss.

And I hope you feel like it soon *Zack Snyder's justice league vs Avengers: Infinity war* This battle would be legendary. I can't wait to see you do this.

I disagree with just one thing you said, that MoS and BvS aren't deep. As you also said, there are a lot of things that can be analyzed in both movies.