Zack Snyder's Justice League (2021) VS Justice League (2017) 

WB: Zack we want you to make your justice league movie however you want, what you need? Zack Snyder: The actors back, 70 milion dolars and a crowbar WB: What do you need the crowbar for? Zack Snyder: Joss Whedon

Joss Whedon: Sees flash saving the world Joss Whedon: Deletes that and adds flash pushing a truck Joss Whedon: Now this is an avengers level threat

My god, could you IMAGINE if we got to see this in theaters in 2017?

I went into the Snyder cut hearing “It’s still bad, it’s still not a good movie” but damn I was actually blown away, I was shocked at how much I actually enjoyed the film

Flash saving the World by himself while all hope is gone is cool. But you know what's cooler ? Flash saving a random Russian family.

Snyder's also explained why barry immediately accepted Bruce's proposal. Not just because "he needs friends" but because his father recently told him to make his own future and not just focus on earning money to be a criminal lawyer for his dad

Like Snyder said during the production of JL in 2016: "Man of Steel is about father figures, BvS is about mother figures, & Justice League is about family." And Snyder Cut is indeed feels like it's about family. We can see the journey of these ragtag team from different backgrounds, starts from not finding a common ground to finding the common ground & from sloppily fighting the bad guy to defeating the bad guy in a perfect sync. Snyder Cut feels like those superheroes are more than a team. They're a family.

If we got this in 2017 DCEU would have never been the same

Although Snyder cut is 4 hours it feels faster... or *it's much eaiser to watch*

Snyder cut: The smell of gasoline 2017 version: the taste of gasoline

“I’m not broken, and I’m not alone.” This line hit me hard, triggered the water works and everything. To my surprise I looked around the room and not a single dry eye was present in that moment. I was not alone. Even right then and there. It really was an emotionally overwhelming moment for me. Loved this movie, and is everything I needed from this first DCEU attempt.

Imagine if this cut was released back then. Even at 4 hours, people would’ve been blown away in theaters. They could’ve put an intermission between each part or two for breaks, that would’ve been a unique experience 😮

ngl that scream from cyborg “barry!” before the motherboxes unite gives me the chills...

24:00 you kinda left out the scene where Arthur is legit concerned about what they're asking Vic to do: a kid who just lost his father, to take on three of the most powerful machines of the universe. And when Barry tells him "I thought you didn't care", Arthur tells him "I...never said that". This actually makes Jason's casting a giant plus-he looks and acts like a tough dude, but he definitely has a heart and does care, and is a lost soul. Spoke more volumes about his character than the stupid "lasso of truth" exposition BS scene.

Whedon's version: 2 hours of horrible jokes and pointless scenes Zack's version: 4 hours of an incredible story where every second has a meaning

The main thing I actually enjoyed more in Snyders version is that he actually established the other characters besides Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman. Especially Cyborg, who was basically absent in the whedon cut.

Whedon's steppenwolf: a dude who cry for his mum Zack's steppenwolf: a lost puppy who want to come home.

Imagine when you are hired to make a funnier version of JL and you failed to make jokes, while the original serious director gives higher quality jokes.

It's unfortunate Ezra is having the issues he's having. The scene in Snyders Cut completely redeemed the movie for me. I was already impressed, but it was one of those scenes that you're going to remember forever. Hope he can work out his personal issues.

8:35 Completely agree. Couldn't stand his version of Flash beforehand but that scene right there made me appreciate him as Flash. Maybe anybody could've done that part. But when he did it, being that I didn't like him as Flash, I was like okay, he'll work for The Flash. One of the best scenes in superhero cinema. I watch that scene repeatedly in the film. Junkie XL's score, the speed force, the emotion, what the Flash can truly do, the meanings and the heroism.... it can only be described as EPIC. Whedon's trash can't compare with this epic undertaking. I can't stand Whedon. He clearly looked to butcher DC and he went full on hack with his ego & ugly personality. He couldn't have cared less about the product or the actors and staff as everyone did their best to be professional. Glad he didn't get away with it his garbage and Ray Fisher stood up to his foolishness and many others came around him and supported him and backed up what he was saying in telling the truth.

At least in Age of Ultron, the "whoops, I fell on a woman's chest" joke is between characters who the film had already established were romantically interested with each other, making things feel less cringey.

The Flashes arc in Zack Snyder’s Justice League: *Trying to help his father, trying to prove himself, wants to help people, finds friends, overall finding his place in the world* The Flash’s character arc in Joss Whedon’s Justice League: Brunch

The Snyder cut is the personification of the phrase of "LET THE DIRECTOR HAVE CREATIVE CONTROL."

ZSJL was made so well that in those 4 hours, I never felt tired or sleepy even a bit. That's truly admirable and I even think it's an even more awesome introduction than the 1st Avengers film (if only Josstice League doesn't exist).

"You Ray, are the heart of my movie." Snyder wasn't lying one bit when he said that.

The bank account scene is also genius, because Cyborg sees himself as this monster, and I believe he even declared "fuck the world" before that part. And then he did that, the same sort of vigilante benevolence as the time he hacked the GCU gradebook just to improve someone else's grades, proving that he hasn't changed as much as he thinks he has. Stroke of genius, I tell you!

you can tell snyder listened to his criticism and incorporated it into his cut.

OMG... THANK YOU for being one of the FEW RU-vidrs to admit that the Snyder-cut was _superior._ I've seen SO MANY RU-vidrs, Redditers, and film critics try to act "unmoved", saying things like, _"meh ..there weren't enough differences to justify it's existence."_ or _"Zack Snyder is PRETENTIOUS and COMPLETELY overused the slow-mo schtick!"_ or, _"The Snyder-cut was 'too violent!' Batman, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman aren't supposed to 'hurt people'!"_ 🙄 OR you have those reviewers who act like they 'liked' the film, but then proceed to be SO overly nit-picky that it's obvious they are trying to be seen as some "intellectual film buff" by acting either overly bored, or just overly neurotic about details. I want to smack these dumb, pretentious reviewers _so badly._ I was afraid this video would be more of the same, but I was PLEASANTLY SURPRISED that this was actually positive AND gave the Snyder-cut it's due props. I don't know how I missed this video, but I'm glad I finally came across it! I'll definitely be subbing, and 💯 look forward to seeing more of your channel!

Meanwhile, Zack Snyder is riverdancing over the grave of Joss Whedon's career

I love how Snyder gave steppenwolf human eyes. It almost... weirdly makes me feel bad for him

Excellent review, I agree with you on all points, even the minor nitpicks. Snyder really did deliver with ZSJL and I really hope he gets to continue his ‘verse in some capacity down the road

Love this film. The theatrical cut pissed me off. I remember walking into the theater expecting this and leaving so disappointed.

“Fly son, it’s time.” That scene alone, from a guy who was not the biggest fan of MoS or BvS, this was truly a 10/10 scene

Man, you really add the tiny detail that when Wonder Woman appears in this video, her music plays

I think the bleakest thing about the Knightmare future is that Aquaman died but Mera and Barry are still alive.

I just watched the Snyder film and it was soooo impressive! The movie was 4 hours and I STILL wanted more. Hope they will allow us to enjoy more films directed by Snyder and allow them to be as long as he needs them to be. #OneLove 👊🏿

The fact that Zack Snyder had to fight with the studio. To have his vision the studio still tried to hamper his vision. Like the green lantern cameo he wanted in the movie. They fought him on the whole flashpoint scene. This movie is so amazing to me I've seen it 8 times. Everything had meaning and all the characters seemed so important in the Snyder cut especially the villains

"We have no fear!" I cannot fathom why this part was left out by Whedon. It was such a great moment for the Amazons.

This is a piece of ART!!!!!! It is beautiful!!! It is magic. The scenes are beautiful. The artistic scenes shocked me. I love you Zack. I will watch this again and again. It is 4 hours of art and love. THANK YOU ZACK! I love this film!

One of the significant contributing factors to the vast disparities between these two versions is WB’s lack of commitment to any real long term plan for their DC properties vs their delusional expectations of gratification through a quick financial return. Joss Whedon, when he is on his game, can be amazing. From the end result on this film he seems to have been hired solely to “Wehdonized” what he could of Synder’s film. A thankless task all around. WB has been floundering around with changes of direction since their entry into the Extended Universe concept without any self reflection on their part in the debacles several of the choices have caused. I’ve watched both versions back to back and the runtime criticism doesn’t stand up. A good story is worth whatever time is needed to engage with it. The Synder JL was infinitely more gratifying experience for me than the mandated two hour version Whedon provided. The Ultimate Edition of Dawn of Justice is thirty minutes longer, but significantly better story wise. Synder was laying groundwork for his vision of an Extended Universe, presumably a long term endeavour, which initially had WB’s commitment. Disney was smart enough to invest in their future potential for Marvel (perhaps partially due to Stan Lee’s involvement?). WB seems to think changing the deck (either cast, or directors) alone is a substitute for their responsibility to make a sustained, committed effort at intelligent storytelling. A pity they haven’t seen that Marvel’s success thus far has been built by acknowledging that a committed fan base arises from intelligently written and creatively presented stories developing identifiable characters instead of randomly assembled thumbnails, however slick such rubbish is presented.

I think my favorite things about the Snyder cut are that the characters actually have arcs and consistent personalities, also I love that each member of the league was essential to win the day rather than Superman carrying the whole team

23:57 cyborg was crying which showed that he is still a human with bunch of emotions trapped inside him

There’s actually a rule that if a director takes on another director’s film, they’ll need to shoot between 50% - 75% of the film’s material (whether that be reshot or entirely new) to actually get a directors credit. This was meant to explain why Josstice League is the way it is, however this ended up making even less sense when Joss didn’t get (or refused to take) director’s credit

Before the Snyder Cut, I was excited to see it because I thought they were going to make improvements to the original movie. When I learned the movie was 4 hours long and less than 30 minutes of it were from the original, I couldn't wait to see it, and to be honest, I thought it was awesome. I've heard people complain about the movie being 4 hours long, but I would have been happier if it was 6 hours. In the end, I had no idea 4 hours had gone by and thought we were going to see Darkseid and his armada attack.

Dasaad : I told you, the Josstice league will fail. Darkseid: Yes, yes you did. Dasaad : what will we do, now that Josstice league is destroyed. Darkseid : Snyderverse has been found Dasaad and we will stop at nothing to Restore it. Ready the hashtags, we'll use the old ways.... #RestoreTheSnyderverse

This comparison is like comparing moldy bread to a beautiful bagel.

I'll never understand how any executives ever thought ANY of Whedon's changes were better.

I like that Ray Fisher, Ray Porter and Ciaran Hinds portrayed their respective characters of Cyborg, Steppenwolf and Darkseid through the use of motion capture.

Rotten Tomato “Critics”: I doN’t SeE aNy DiFFereNCE

Don't also forget that Batman was weird and seemed useless and helpless in the Whedon Cut, whereas in the Snyder Cut he was epic.

We need a cut like this for Spider-Man 3. There are deleted scenes due to the length of the movie. One of the deleted scenes were where he looked in a mirror and got a jump scare vision of himself being Venom and Venom doing the screaming sound. There’s a lot more development and it explains why he became scared of the suit so randomly. Context matters.

I love hearing the *Ancient Lamentation Music* you added when WW pops up on screen

My headcanon is that the wheadon cut events were erased during crisis on infinite earths

I love that superman dawned the black superman suit

The difference is night and day and it'll never make sense to me for why they didn't give Zack Snyder a mostly-free pass to do as he wishes. His universe and vision had a start and a finish. Yes we want a lot of movies, a shared universe and team ups, but we also don't want it to senselessly drag on and on. Three phases, max. Then reboot the whole universe, w/ or w/o Snyder. WB messed up really badly by not listening to the fans and by not backing Snyder's vision!

Thank you for making this video Mr. Eric Carter!

1:15 "Everybody wants a box of chocolates" I'm dying 🤣🤣🤣

I love how he plays the new Wonder Woman theme every time she's on screen

"Eric, whatever happens, I want you to know. This video was one of them, Eric. One of the best of the best."

Can I also say that when Barry stopped time then that epic soundtrack kicked in I genuinely started to get chills. It's executed so well.

The Wonder Woman music is a nice touch.

Bruce to Alfred: “Faith, Alfred. Faith.” Bruce to WB: “Faith, WB. Faith.” WB should really take Bruce’s words tbh.

Awesome video ! It's amazing to see the differences

Thank you for this RU-vid video , I sadly feel like they destroyed my childhood with the Joss Whedon version of the Justice League I had all my hopes put into one box and they crushed it Zack Snyder's dream isn't dead in my heart I love his version of the dceu we need to stand together and keep his vision true

Barry's "I need friends" line was a symptom of Barry still not being able to take control of his life and future at the start of his character's arc. Batman appears to him at his home uninvited. Batman asks him to join the team. And without question or consideration he accepts what was offered to him. In jail his father tells Barry he can't keep running in circles, which metaphorically was exactly what Barry was doing during the final battle. He was running in circles only to get worn out, shot down, and ultimately fail. It was only then that Barry truly took control of his future when choosing to risk his life by running straight into the void/explosion. At the start of his character arc Barry said he needed friends, but by end it was his friends who needed him. NONE of this was in the 2017 train wreck. IMHO what WB and Joss Whedon had done to the first ever Justice league movie was a crime against film history.

I just want to point out the SMOOTH musical transition this man uses for the "batman recruits flash" scene, where he does one song and then it goes into Flash's theme music. Nice job, Eric, your editing is on-point.

And now with Gunn's arrival, they've just buried the best thing they've had going since the Nolan trilogy.

Brilliant video - and not only do all the characters have arcs in the Snyder version, but even the bloody airplane does!

After watching the Snyder Cut,I had a better understanding of BvS and Man of Steel and how it all lead up to Snyder Cut.I actually thought that"Huh.This is kind of good for the lead up"to BvS

Who had tears while flash reversed time with the epic music ? 😭

0:20-3:30 Love that you used that Remix by L'Orchestra

Congratulations on 1 million views!!!!

It’s very clear that all of the people who say that ZSJL is worse than Josstice League are one of 3 things. 1. They don’t like that fans got the movie made. I’m talking to a certain group of people *cough* Rotten Tomatoes *cough*. 2. They like marvel so much. They hate a movie that’s DC and it’s doing well. 3. They haven’t even watched the movie but everyone loves to hate this movie. So they’re hopping on the bandwagon. And even if they do watch the movie they will go in expecting to hate it. My only hope is they don’t. Like Cosmonaut Variety Hour. He thought he’d hate the movie. But he didn’t. Now I know ZSJL has problems. The runtime, and a certain theme are my only real complaints. I also felt like the scene where Flash rescues iris took a little to long. But other than those nitpicks. The movie is awesome. You can’t tell me that Barry saving a random Russian family is cooler than saving the whole freaking planet!! What an amazing movie.

I’m actually surprised you didn’t talk about Jared Leto’s Joker in the Zynder Cut

Loved your explanatiin.

Whenever you were saying Cyborg, idk why but I was hearing "Sidewalk" LOL 😂

In the josstice league : Stephen wolf dies from his own minions In the Snyder cut : Gets punched and punched and get Heat beamed by one of the strongest Heroes in the universe and still survives

The way he puts the lamentation music every time WW comes up is hilariously unnoticeable

The part with cyborg helping the single mum meant a lot to me as it reminded me of my mum growing up. As a single parent she did everything for me and my sister and I really wish she could get some financial luck sometime, she deserves all the happiness in life.

Watching after Zack Snyder's Justice league Wins the Oscar for best moment 💪

Snyder cut: Entire movie lead up to cyborg realizing he’s not a monster and accepts who he is Theatrical cut: Entire movie lead to cyborg saying boo ya Honestly, the Whedon version had a better arc for cyborg. Edit: 1k likes! How?!? Thx so much! 😀

"Consequences for bringing someone back to life. You heard that, Marvel?" You sir, are spot on!

4 hours of snyder cut is not enough! Watched it 3 times already, gonna watch it again on Xmas.

also blame WB for cutting the speedforce and time reversal scene becoz they didn't understood the scene and cut it down. and bro i like it that u used that snydercut ww music when ever u showed ww in this video , that kinda felt funny..

Comparison Josstice League : a boring mess ZSJL : damn near masterpiece

The one from 2017 is called 'Josstice League' from now on. That crap doesn't deserve the word Justice in its title

I finally got around to watching ZSJL a few months ago, and I 100% agree. Yes, aspects of it felt pretty slow, but I still fully enjoyed it. After Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Shazam, This, James Gunn’s Suicide Squad, and now The Batman, the DCEU is definitely putting in it’s A-game, especially after the previous movies that ranged from Decent (MOS) to absolute Dumpster Fires (Josstice League)

excellent video!! don't stop! i agree with EVERYTHING you critiqued about both films. i finally watched the zack snyder cut and i LOVE, LOVE, LOVE IT!!!!! i was able to appreciate the Flash and finally, finally - thanks to adding all of the additional footage of the Flash! - grasped who this comic book character is actually based on: THE ROMAN GOD, MERCURY! i had always known that the personality trait "mercurial" (fickle, temperamental, emotional, etc.) came from the element mercury, but i saw a lot of that mercurial behavior come out in him and I LOVED IT!! in the whedon cut, because miller's scenes were so edited down, the mercurial behavior came across as forced and "over the top". now, however, having seen a much larger and more textured context miller's portrayal doesn't come across as some 1980s, high school teen with a bunch of scripted one-liners to serve as the humorous element in a movie. He is a fast-moving, whimsical, eccentric albeit fickle super hero, i.e. Mercury and Mercury (one being the element with similar attributes) and the other the Roman Messenger god (or is it god of the air? i guess that depends on references. the story plot is fuller, much more rounded out. you're right, every character got more screen time - necessary screen time!! - and they stood out, became real, textured super heros with some scars, flaws and foibles! you know i'm watching it a few more times, it's one MY LIST and will never be removed! i give this video/ movie review TWO THUMBS UP!!

I just realized that during the final battle of Snyder's Justice League Batman was fighting the army alone outside, while the others are fighting steppenwolf inside, and flash charging electricity around the town

Almost like synder version takes place immediately after batman v superman the ultimate edition Whedon version: takes place full year after BVS

When the snyder cut was announced I thought it would just be the same with a few extra scenes, but it feels like a completely different movie

The reason why I loved infinity war and endgame was because of the Russo brothers age of ultron and the first avengers feel like mid tier comedy action movies while the Russo brothers and zack Snyder make their movies more comic book action and more detail than corny quick cheap explanations like whedon. I hope more people see that whedon is a mid tier to low tier director

Flash: make ur own future Joss whedon: hmm this is trash somehow we better cut this out *cuts to saving Russian family* Joss whedon: perfect Me: WHAT

Let’s be honest there’s no competition snyder cut is the best

Two Years later, I keep comming back to this amazing video.

Now let's just hope that DC keeps Snyder as a director in order to release more films so that DC can beat Marvel.

“Josstice League gets a 1/10” He did it! He said it! *air horn*

Remember when Eric ranked the first a 7/10. Those were uhh.. interesting times

dude this comparison video is so good and so funny at the same time like steppenwolf and darkseid on a skype call man what the hell ? i was laughing there for a minute that was so hillarious

Hey man that way great. Glad I’ve stumbled upon your channel. Think I’ll stick around awhile. My favorite comment which is the first I’ve heard someone say, ZSJL actually makes you want to go out and buy a comic book !!