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Zelda 64 Recompiled: A Revolution In N64 Native Ports For PC 

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@earlyriser03
@earlyriser03 4 месяца назад
This is what excites me the most about PC gaming: extremely knowledgeable people unlocking the full potential of old games and preserving them at the same time. Incredible!
@AVerySillySausage
@AVerySillySausage 4 месяца назад
Right, that along with mods and the general more flexible backwards compatiblity. Having to rely on developers to update dead games to modern standards with no financial incentives is crazy. Meanwhile PC games scale with your hardware infinitely (at least with resolution and framerate) and there will always be a community to iron out issues as they gradually become less compatible with modern hardware. OpenMW is another brilliant project where fans have built a new engine for the game that brings a 22 year old game up to modern standards. Meanwhile you have a game like Bloodborne that will be forever locked in a cage of blurry aliased 1080p with a bad frame paced 30fps because the devs can't be bothered to do anything about it.
@jsb0714
@jsb0714 4 месяца назад
Wait a minute. You talk about "preserving" yet this is just another lame PC hack.
@earlyriser03
@earlyriser03 4 месяца назад
@@jsb0714 i'm not very technically-minded, and even i understood how significant an achievement this is based on Alex's excellent break down. this is far from being "lame".
@AVerySillySausage
@AVerySillySausage 4 месяца назад
@@jsb0714 ?
@R1K4RD39
@R1K4RD39 4 месяца назад
Popular games don't need to be "preserved", there are lots of great niche games which deserve this attention.
@alyx4436
@alyx4436 4 месяца назад
F-Zero X 120fps+ on ultrawide Oled is now something I only now just realized that I have wanted all my life!
@gmcubed
@gmcubed 4 месяца назад
ooh, could someone give X a GX make over? That'd be fun.
@Tailslol
@Tailslol 4 месяца назад
They forgot to speak about model swap. Oot can use models from 3ds and TWP so imagine fzero x with proper graphics and ray tracing.
@xosece
@xosece 4 месяца назад
I think many records would be broken
@IncognitoActivado
@IncognitoActivado 4 месяца назад
@@Tailslol ray tracing? whatever you say, eye-candy fanboy.
@angerypete3483
@angerypete3483 4 месяца назад
With the Japan only EXpansion kit too
@Theinvalidmusic
@Theinvalidmusic 4 месяца назад
Alex, I will forever admire your dedication to using old Unreal and UT music in any retro-related videos on DF. Never gets old.
@Offsettttt
@Offsettttt 4 месяца назад
Also, Tiberian Sun soundtrack ))
@override7486
@override7486 4 месяца назад
tracking ftw
@davidt3563
@davidt3563 4 месяца назад
MY HOUSE!!
@wileymanful
@wileymanful 4 месяца назад
speaking of, what's the song playing at 1:10 if anyone knows it?
@GwilymWogan
@GwilymWogan 4 месяца назад
​@@wileymanful "Link Up," from Tiberian Sun Firestorm
@AceStrife
@AceStrife 4 месяца назад
When I saw Nerrel's video I kept looking at the upload date thinking it was April 1st. How anyone was able to create a tool to do this is beyond me, but my god they're a wizard. We need it for every old console now. Unlocking arbitrary framerate with 0 issues is absolutely massive.
@captainpumpkinhead1512
@captainpumpkinhead1512 4 месяца назад
I've always wondered why we even bother with just-in-time compilation for emulation. Seems to me like pre-compiled emulation would offer massive speed enhancements, just as it has here.
@clairearan505
@clairearan505 4 месяца назад
Extreme-G at 120fps? Yes. PLEASE.
@ISSO1407
@ISSO1407 4 месяца назад
Thats a weird way to spell F-Zero.
@3dmarth
@3dmarth 4 месяца назад
There's a code to make XG2 run at 60fps on emulators, and it works amazingly. Not sure if there's one for the original game, though. (If there is, someone please share it!)
@szeltovivarsydroxan9944
@szeltovivarsydroxan9944 4 месяца назад
Extreme G at anything over 30. Iirc that game slowed sometimes down to sub 5 fps if a lot of stuff was going on on the screen.
@dizziuog
@dizziuog 4 месяца назад
@@ISSO1407 f-zero x already runs at 60 tho, extreme g barely works lol
@equinoxe3d
@equinoxe3d 4 месяца назад
@@3dmarth Ironically that would be better than the actual XG2 "re-released" PC version (which is the old 1998 PC release patched up with a Glide wrapper). It runs at 30-35 FPS, it's a shame Nightdive doesn't have the license to do this one.
@zipzip070
@zipzip070 4 месяца назад
Wave Race 64, Donkey Kong 64, Banjo-Kazooie, the N64 RUSH games, F-Zero X
@MrJeanjean2009
@MrJeanjean2009 4 месяца назад
Add GoldenEye, Perfect Dark
@environm3ntalist549
@environm3ntalist549 4 месяца назад
Body Harvest, Jet Force Gemini, Rogue Squadron, etc
@AquaticMammalOnBicycle
@AquaticMammalOnBicycle 4 месяца назад
Wave Race 64 at 60fps can you imagine. Other games seem pointless to recompile in comparison to that.
@SoyAntonioGaming
@SoyAntonioGaming 4 месяца назад
@@AquaticMammalOnBicycle ye, F-Zero X is good as is. already 60 FPS
@00Clive00
@00Clive00 4 месяца назад
Perfect Dark has already been decompiled and it's completely playable at high resolution and frame rates, I played through it on a crappy surface pro 4 with intel 520 integrated graphics, ran flawlessly.​@@MrJeanjean2009
@MrLathor
@MrLathor 4 месяца назад
Playing recompiled games on the Steam Deck is going to be huge. Native quality ports of classic games is a game changer.
@ivan4087
@ivan4087 4 месяца назад
yeah cause steam deck is so crt
@MrMastercatfish
@MrMastercatfish 4 месяца назад
I’m playing the MM recomp right now on my steam deck and it’s perfect
@Moskeeto
@Moskeeto 4 месяца назад
I hope console recompilation like this is the future of "emulation." Imagine all the traditional emulators getting replaced with this and giving us what are essentially native PC ports!
@Wolfwood2057
@Wolfwood2057 4 месяца назад
@@Moskeeto I doubt it unless we get a faster process for the de-compilation step. It's similar to how the HLE emulator in the video was done actually, typically aimed towards the popular games. We might get a Recompilation of Mario Kart, Banjo-Kazooie, and Smash Brothers for example, but it's unlikely we'll get recompilations of games like Goemon's Great Adventure, Custom Robo, or No Mercy, just because they're not nearly as popular so there won't be the eyes needed to handle the de-compilation step. It also likely won't help for anything past N64, because the code is even more monstrous for later systems, and won't help for games prior to N64, because emulation is usually already pretty good there (SNES is almost fully accurate now) Basically: This is mostly useful for N64, but i'm skeptical of how effective it will be towards the entire library, or even if it's manageable for games past n64.
@raven-a
@raven-a 4 месяца назад
​@@Wolfwood2057 Eventually with IA help I can see more decompilation happening but yeah, it's gonna take a while, people are going nuts over it but the N64 is almost 30 years old, like decompilation on this level it's more than late at this point, emulators have been enabling using HD textures and other niceties for years and years
@primecalibur
@primecalibur 4 месяца назад
Perfect dark with ray tracing 👌
@rarewhiteape
@rarewhiteape 4 месяца назад
That would be awesome. PD has such a vibe. Sadly the game is absolutely filled with baked textures to represent its lighting, so I hope someone is able to figure out a way to work around that.
@cyxceven
@cyxceven 4 месяца назад
Literally what we need, but Xbox is too dumb to deliver.
@IncognitoActivado
@IncognitoActivado 4 месяца назад
ray tracing? whatever you say, eye-candy fanboy, whatever you say.
@DavidPereiraLima123
@DavidPereiraLima123 4 месяца назад
@@IncognitoActivado Good. I'd like ray tracing aswell.
@IncognitoActivado
@IncognitoActivado 4 месяца назад
@@DavidPereiraLima123 Casual. XD
@SITSIndustries
@SITSIndustries 4 месяца назад
9:43 that thing really whips the llama's ass
@slot9
@slot9 4 месяца назад
Yeah the Winamp usage was great!
@HungryHungryDude
@HungryHungryDude 4 месяца назад
Hahahaha
@kodemasterx
@kodemasterx 4 месяца назад
Newer generation of gamers are like ????? 😂😂😂
@mutoneon
@mutoneon 4 месяца назад
With a belt!
@sonicsnake44
@sonicsnake44 4 месяца назад
That definitely took me back. Funny how I downloaded all of these different skins and didn't hardly ever use any of them.
@gamertoon8230
@gamertoon8230 4 месяца назад
I look forward to when custom texture support arrives. Pairing this port with Nerrel’s texture pack would be a match made in heaven.
@Hobbles_
@Hobbles_ 4 месяца назад
That's what I'm super excited for as well. Me and my GF are waiting for that to replay the game together side by side!
@sergiodetter1417
@sergiodetter1417 4 месяца назад
if they also give android support then im playing the shit out of this on my odin2
@theninjamaster67
@theninjamaster67 4 месяца назад
Same but not just for Nerrel's retexture (which is incredibly good don't get me wrong) but I'd also love to use Andrat's Mario Kart 64 retexture that painstakingly remade every 2D character sprite (thousands of them) from scratch to make the characters look like actual 3D models.
@Zinkolo
@Zinkolo 4 месяца назад
Honestly that pack is pretty awful. I much prefer having someone port over the 3DS textures and models as well as the lighting. That version just looks amazing and truly brings the game to it's own light.
@theninjamaster67
@theninjamaster67 4 месяца назад
@@Zinkolo Weak bate.
@brandon_nope
@brandon_nope 4 месяца назад
will we finally get a competent version of Goldeneye 007?
@supabass4003
@supabass4003 4 месяца назад
Yeah its in the N64!!!
@pyro_lc4248
@pyro_lc4248 4 месяца назад
since Perfect Dark which is Goldeneye's spiritual sequel has been reverse engineered and ported to PC, I think it's bound to happen.
@rorynolan2322
@rorynolan2322 4 месяца назад
It's pretty easy to get hold of and emulate the 360 version which is very solid
@masterquake7
@masterquake7 4 месяца назад
It really is baffling that neither the Xbox nor Switch version got the most basic stuff right. I liked it on Switch, but would have been great if the controls were modernized in the N64 NSO app.
@FlukeyHeadshot
@FlukeyHeadshot 4 месяца назад
The 360 remaster is perfect via emulation.
@BigCheeseEvie
@BigCheeseEvie 4 месяца назад
It's always a nice day when df uploads retro game content
@RgxSuperSonic
@RgxSuperSonic 4 месяца назад
Need Starfox 64 badly.
@CheckmateStallioN
@CheckmateStallioN 4 месяца назад
DK 64
@crust5909
@crust5909 4 месяца назад
Castlevania 64
@NothingHereForYou
@NothingHereForYou 4 месяца назад
I wanna say I read it’s not too far off from happening
@joey199412
@joey199412 4 месяца назад
@@CheckmateStallioN DK 64 is needed because emulators can STILL not properly emulate timed sections in the game. Meaning the game is incomplete-able without cheats when emulated.
@MechromancerFTW
@MechromancerFTW 4 месяца назад
Pokémon Stadium 1 + 2
@NativeWarrior081
@NativeWarrior081 4 месяца назад
I can't wait for the GameCube recompilation! It will be a dream to play a native PC port of Twilight Princess, my second favorite Zelda game aside from Majora's Mask!
@Nonantement
@Nonantement 4 месяца назад
Are you me? I hold the exact same opinion!
@ivan4087
@ivan4087 4 месяца назад
is dolphine emulation of this bad?
@RvEllorquez
@RvEllorquez 4 месяца назад
​@@ivan4087 no. You can literally play the game 4k 60fps.
@ivan4087
@ivan4087 4 месяца назад
​@@RvEllorquez why someone need recompilation then?
@Wolfwood2057
@Wolfwood2057 4 месяца назад
@@ivan4087 You need a beefy computer to play on dolphin, especially using those settings. A steamdeck will absolutely not do those settings and not and have lag issues.
@caseypenk
@caseypenk 4 месяца назад
Seeing Zelda 64 in 60fps is wilddddd
@fireaza
@fireaza 4 месяца назад
It's like seeing a Disneyland mascot without the head on, it's just... Wrong.
@El-Duderino-His-Dudeness
@El-Duderino-His-Dudeness 4 месяца назад
I wish Jet Force Gemini would get this treatment, but that game also needs a good controller overhaul. Somehow the Rare Xbox One port had worse controller input than the original.
@Hamlock_
@Hamlock_ 4 месяца назад
Ocarina of Time has been playable with arbitrary framerates since its decompilation called Ship of Harkinian, so we've seen a Zelda 64 game in 60fps for a while
@v1kt0u5
@v1kt0u5 4 месяца назад
@@El-Duderino-His-Dudeness Yas! One of my favorites!
@3dmarth
@3dmarth 4 месяца назад
@@El-Duderino-His-Dudeness What was wrong with the Xbone version? I thought the dual stick controls (with Advanced mode enabled, so it's LT to aim and RT to shoot) felt pretty good- easily as good as the way I remember the original playing. Is there some kind of sensitivity/lag issue?
@totalvoid6234
@totalvoid6234 4 месяца назад
Starfox 64 and Blast Corps are the most appealing out of everything I haven't seen.
@MizuhoChan
@MizuhoChan 4 месяца назад
Definitely those, plus maybe pilotwings or rogue squadron.
@_n8thagr8_63
@_n8thagr8_63 4 месяца назад
800x600 !!! lol. I remember being like 9 and bragging to my friends that the PS2 would do 480p, I barely had any idea of what that even meant
@Joostinonline
@Joostinonline 4 месяца назад
And we were all running at 480i because almost nobody had component cables back then lol.
@aboveaveragebayleaf9216
@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 4 месяца назад
​@@Joostinonlinealso because the tvs were all crt, and they were naturally interlaced
@MicahtheDrumCorpsPseudoboomer
@MicahtheDrumCorpsPseudoboomer 4 месяца назад
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216except for PC CRTs
@ahums16
@ahums16 4 месяца назад
​@@wraithofsolidarityAre you seriously lamenting this or is this some /r/ sarcasm?
@UberDarkGuardian
@UberDarkGuardian 4 месяца назад
@@wraithofsolidarityI…. Don’t know what to do with this information. I had those cables. Still have them now
@conmanjones
@conmanjones 4 месяца назад
between the game itself, starting the vid with the mario kart block sound, and busting out winamp, you really hit me in the nostalgia today. love it
@mathimatisk
@mathimatisk 4 месяца назад
My personal pick would be the original Paper Mario. This is the coolest thing I’ve seen in a while, can’t wait for what the future will bring with this.
@Nemurihime
@Nemurihime 4 месяца назад
What a time to be alive 🥹
@rhinosaurus1496
@rhinosaurus1496 4 месяца назад
Exactly what I was going to say 😭👍
@Galespark234
@Galespark234 4 месяца назад
Been playing this to almost completion and it made me fall in love with the game all over again. Playing it at such smooth 120fps and Hi-Res honestly feels like a fever dream. I'm excited to revisit many other N64 games this way.
@IncognitoActivado
@IncognitoActivado 4 месяца назад
Hi-Res? Whatever you say, eye-candy fanboy.
@Galespark234
@Galespark234 4 месяца назад
@@IncognitoActivado huh
@bocelott
@bocelott 3 месяца назад
@@IncognitoActivado lmao what
@IncognitoActivado
@IncognitoActivado 3 месяца назад
@@bocelott What I said.
@Dani_112
@Dani_112 4 месяца назад
I can't wait to see Wave Race 64 with ray traced waters... omg
@Mr.Beavis667
@Mr.Beavis667 4 месяца назад
You already can, Dario posted a video on his twitter a long time ago
@netoeli
@netoeli 4 месяца назад
Companies dream of hiring this kind of talent. Imagine Nintendo did this level of effort when it came to running their old N64 games on the Switch. This is the very best this game has every looked, not even at Nintendo head-quarters has this game looked this good.
@richr161
@richr161 4 месяца назад
Didn't they remaster and make it 30fps on the 3ds. Those were pretty good.
@homiedclown
@homiedclown 4 месяца назад
I can't wait for someone to port these recompilations for the Switch. I have the Ship of Harkinian Ocarina of Time port, and the Super Mario 64 port on the Switch, and they both play and look great.
@johnclark926
@johnclark926 4 месяца назад
Curiously, Nintendo themselves do some static recompilation of their own, but only for certain Wii rereleases. The SMAS version of Super Mario Galaxy is notable for being the first instance of this “hybrid emulation” where the source code runs natively on the CPU but the graphics and sound are handled by their Hagi emulator, similar to how N64Recomp games will leverage RT64 for the graphics rendering and enhancements. The Pikmin 1+2 rereleases also employed this method as they were built off of the New Play Control! versions rather than the GameCube originals. I believe Nintendo’s main purpose for using static recompilation is for the insane performance saving (I tested out Zelda 64 on my awful free Lenovo laptop and it managed to hit 1080p60fps without a GPU!), but I’m not sure why they aren’t employing it in place of their other standalone emulated rereleases. Super Mario Sunshine and especially Super Mario 64 could have benefited from hybrid emulation rather than full. Even NES games stand to gain unique benefits from static recompilation; for example, the first Mega Man Legacy Collection was able to add a neat extra mode for the games that would be nearly impossible with traditional emulation.
@SearedBooks
@SearedBooks 4 месяца назад
​@@richr161 The OOT remaster was great. MM is more of a mixed bag. I didn't have any great issues with it, but it could trip up somebody used to the N64 version.
@Skylancer727
@Skylancer727 4 месяца назад
@@richr161 That was mostly just a texture swap and model upgraded version. The 3DS was also the same resolution as the N64 version. It looked a bit better, but not this much better. Plus those same models and textures could be ported into this version if they want to.
@szeltovivarsydroxan9944
@szeltovivarsydroxan9944 4 месяца назад
God, I miss late 90's PC culture, and the 90's in general! They have a very distinct "taste" when I try to remember the times. Nostalgia is a helluva drug.
@mesasone2280
@mesasone2280 4 месяца назад
There's been a wave of Windows 95 inspired lofi mixes that have been popping off for this reason lately.
@cookieface80
@cookieface80 4 месяца назад
Been playing Fallout 2 lately, so I agree. I can't say it's nostalgia when the game is only a year younger than I am.
@DavideNastri
@DavideNastri 4 месяца назад
F@ck smartphones! Golden era when you started your machine and dug in.
@mjoe7561
@mjoe7561 4 месяца назад
​@@cookieface80 why would that rule out nostalgia?
@cookieface80
@cookieface80 4 месяца назад
@@mjoe7561 Well I know you can be nostalgic for something recent, technically, but I just mean that most people tend to think that you only like an old game because you played it as a kid. So I'm fond of the game and I went into it with a modern gamer's perspective.
@MrJohnReviews
@MrJohnReviews 4 месяца назад
Hopefully we get recompiled Psone and PS2 games, imagine playing native pc ports of the ridge racer games and Gran Turismo 1 & 2 as well
@keetiv
@keetiv 4 месяца назад
We’ve already got Jak & Daxter and Jak II. Jak III is on the way. I highly recommend playing those gems on PC!
@Newgodofwar
@Newgodofwar 4 месяца назад
Riiiidge raceeeer! Remember that one?
@gonschor7dleven
@gonschor7dleven 4 месяца назад
@@keetiv Those are native, decompiled ports, but yes, they are the definitive ways to play them.
@BIaziken2
@BIaziken2 4 месяца назад
Emulation for those consoles is a lot better so I don't know if anyone will feel it's necessary.
@briggsg
@briggsg 4 месяца назад
@@BIaziken2 ye, but those consoles had some major issues - ps1: no floating point, ps2: antialiasing (or whatever that blur is). And still many games require a lot of emulator options tweaking. If not all of them (for high res, good quality and speed, widescreen). I'd like to see some arcade games recompiled. Winning Run still doesn't have decent emulation. How would it look with some path tracing.
@lewis9973
@lewis9973 4 месяца назад
The way it looked on your CRT. Oh my 🥲
@StarGazerTom1991
@StarGazerTom1991 3 месяца назад
It looks just like how I remember these older games looking!
@itsuadman
@itsuadman 4 месяца назад
I would love to play Jet Force Gemini in 4k. That would just be such a treat. This project looks amazing and i cant wait to try it. Thanks for taking the time to share it because i doubt id have heard about it otherwise
@StarRain6
@StarRain6 4 месяца назад
i wanted JFG in 60fps for about a million years now, please let it come true!
@prodyg
@prodyg 4 месяца назад
Play the Rare replay version then
@El-Duderino-His-Dudeness
@El-Duderino-His-Dudeness 4 месяца назад
@@prodyg I don't think Rare Replay is 60fps. The controls aren't really much better either. It feels terrible to play, really bad input lag and deadzone configuration. Fingers crossed it gets Mario 64/Ocarina of Time style PC port by fans way more diehard than me.
@v1kt0u5
@v1kt0u5 4 месяца назад
aaand at 120fps, buuut with a nice CRT filter like Slang shaders.
@MiguelRAstorga
@MiguelRAstorga 4 месяца назад
And modern FPS controls, since we have to admit we are already used and spoiled to them.
@gavinjones
@gavinjones 4 месяца назад
Can't wait for the RT release
@machina21
@machina21 4 месяца назад
A No Mercy port with online play would bring about world peace
@silkmonkey
@silkmonkey 4 месяца назад
Dig dig dig, diggity dog
@BurritoKingdom
@BurritoKingdom 4 месяца назад
There are a ton of no mercy mods that have updated the roster
@sawyeratkinson
@sawyeratkinson 4 месяца назад
​@@silkmonkey_Sock-o_
@TurnaboutAdam
@TurnaboutAdam 4 месяца назад
AEW fight forever is basically that.
@Quotenjugendlicher
@Quotenjugendlicher 4 месяца назад
That needs to be Virtual Pro Wrestling 2 instead. That should be made into the 3D pro wrestling sandbox for PC we should have gotten ages ago but unfortunately WSX still isn't good (and Fire Pro also dropped the ball on it, but that is 2D).
@Frellyouall
@Frellyouall 4 месяца назад
Great timing. I finished Minish Cap for the first time today and I've never played Majora's Mask.
@GugureSux
@GugureSux 4 месяца назад
Oh boy, you are in for a ride, I tell you that!
@FGTRTD24
@FGTRTD24 4 месяца назад
You’re in for a treat.
@Sephiel263
@Sephiel263 4 месяца назад
Blast Corps without gigantic slowdown is goint to be rad.
@Big_Caesar1
@Big_Caesar1 2 месяца назад
I freaking loved that game as a kid
@Blaze92NL
@Blaze92NL 4 месяца назад
I’m just here for the “Auf wiedersehen” 😂
@Zappieroth
@Zappieroth 4 месяца назад
That Deck 16 theme at the start though, One of the bestest Soundtrack tunes to date.
@PixelBaller
@PixelBaller 4 месяца назад
Nice video and delightful narration from Alex. Keen to see these games with texture packs and ray tracing. Especially Wave Race at high frame rates.
@iamnotkurtcobain
@iamnotkurtcobain 4 месяца назад
We need Wave Race 64 in widescreen, 60fps and RT!!
@ivan4087
@ivan4087 4 месяца назад
and remastered on unreal 6 engine
@fighterguard
@fighterguard 4 месяца назад
I've been playing it in 32:9 at 240fps, and it's glorious! I'm so happy that the first game to get this treatment is also my favorite game on the N64. I'm already attempting the 3 day challenge. Although I'm a bit rusty, since I haven't attempted it in quite a few years. The QoL improvements for the Ocarina and the transformation masks are fantastic, and make the whole experience that much better. I love it so much 😍
@MathOwz
@MathOwz 4 месяца назад
Got it running at 90fps on the steamdeck oled. Just made the greatest game of all time even greater. Bliss
@killval849
@killval849 4 месяца назад
oh man, that's ALWAYS my first instinct as well, get it on my steam deck! That's sick that you got it to work.
@phos4usredeemer
@phos4usredeemer 4 месяца назад
There a tutorial for this?
@MathOwz
@MathOwz 4 месяца назад
@@phos4usredeemer there's a channel called Hi-tech Lo-life he has a guide. It's not the one I used but it's the same process by the looks of it
@phos4usredeemer
@phos4usredeemer 4 месяца назад
@@MathOwz thank you!
@MathOwz
@MathOwz 4 месяца назад
@@phos4usredeemer no worries pal. Hope you have fun with it. It's genuinely a game changer.
@bizmar
@bizmar 4 месяца назад
Now i can play Portal64 on my PC! 🙃
@gontsekganyago4079
@gontsekganyago4079 4 месяца назад
this is the pinnacle
@angerypete3483
@angerypete3483 4 месяца назад
I'm not the first to say this but it is pretty funny that N64 emulation has been so bad for so long that the new meta is to just go around emulation and convert the games into native PC ports. It took longer but the result is better overall so it's a win in my book.
@bb010g
@bb010g 4 месяца назад
this is still pretty similar to emulation. the "recompilation" part is turning the original machine code into just enough portable code to emulate that. the project uses emulators like ares as a reference to make sure it's acting the way a N64 would. performance benefits & some flexibility come from this recompilation being static, as opposed to the dynamic recompilation you'll normally see in emulator JITs.
@MechanicaMenace
@MechanicaMenace 3 месяца назад
​​@@bb010gnot really. It's more like a mix between a port and Wine/Proton. A lot less overhead than an emulator even if the emu is using a dynarec and/or JIT.
@bb010g
@bb010g 3 месяца назад
@@MechanicaMenace mind the names you're using there though-"dynamic (re)compilation", "just in time compilation". these are translating machine code (most often the artifact of a private compilation phase) for the emulated system and *dynamically* (re)compiling that for the host system to reproduce the emulated system's behavior when interpreted. static recompilation (or "ahead of time compilation", a term you may have heard in reference to Android's recompilation of Dalvik bytecode) is that but at an earlier time. Wine & Proton are support libraries for emulating the original behavior of artifacts while directly interpreting the original artifacts. my point is that "emulation" doesn't require the overhead of naive interpretation of foreign code, or the overhead & bookkeeping of JIT compilation. these are methods to achieve the goal of emulation. static compilation is another method.
@MechanicaMenace
@MechanicaMenace 3 месяца назад
@@bb010g there's no emulation in Wine (well unless you're not running on x86 but the emu still isn't part of Wine), the clue is in the name. It's a bunch of translation layers. And whether it's a dynarec or JIT they still have overhead that something like this doesn't. Compiling to efficient machine code isn't computationally cheap and it's a multi pass process so emulators that aren't just interpreting avoid a lot of optimisations too. And they're still occasionally running something like an interpretation step so they can (just in time or dynamically) compile the results. Don't get me wrong emulators are great, I use many and have written a couple, and they aren't going to get totally replaced by stuff like this even in the long run. Some of us really care about ancient hardware. But they do not work the same as this. Some of the same steps? Yes, but in a different order and at different times. And if you only care about the software? This will let the games run at the intended framerate and resolution on lower end hardware and it will be easier to add patches to improve accuracy or add wide-screen support, higher resolution support, high FPS support, etc, etc.
@bb010g
@bb010g 3 месяца назад
@@MechanicaMenace Yes, WINE Is Not an Emulator, but it enables emulation of Windows functionality through linking hacks. that's really similar to what traditional high-level emulation does. my main point is that static recompilation is still a method for emulation. i am not contradicting your performance claims about methods. you're making a host system behave like a guest system to the payload. that's emulation. I'd hesitate to call all static recompilations ports because "port" implies a higher level of decompilation than what occurs here, in the same way i wouldn't normally call an emulator running a payload a "port", even if the emulator only runs the one payload. Ship of Harkinian is a proper port. sm64-port is a proper port. OpenMW is a proper port. the PC build of Pikmin that Nintendo accidentally shipped is a proper port.
@Myako
@Myako 4 месяца назад
This is indeed a momentous occasion for the emulation community. Can't wait to see how this develops, platform-wise and catalog-wise. One thing I hope this project can do soon is support for Slang shaders, because those have some amazing CRT emulation. As for which game is like to see most: "Silent Hill 1" (if this progresses towards more systems) or Mario Kart 64 and Conker.
@rockapartie
@rockapartie 4 месяца назад
You can use ReShade with the Zelda recomp right now. I know it has CRT-Royale, but I'm sure there are others. As for Silent Hill: Of course, I wish there was a port, but it already works amazingly well in Duckstation - as long as you don't use True Color Rendering, because it disables dithering, which this game heavily relies on, especially during night out on the streets. (Use _scaled dithering_ if you've increased the internal rendering resolution.) PGXP gets rid of most of the wobbling, warping and Z-fighting. Steady 30 fps requires overclocking the emulated Playstation to ca. 150%. Duckstation comes with optional cheats for widescreen and 60 fps (requires further overclocking, I'm using 500% which seems to work well.)
@Nonantement
@Nonantement 4 месяца назад
@@rockapartie Commenting so I take into account your recommendations when I get back on Duckstation.
@Myako
@Myako 4 месяца назад
@@rockapartie I saw that, but thanks! 💪🏻 Thing is, for whatever reason I don't like the idea of an external program for doing stuff like this. I prefer standalone, portable things. In this case, the shaders themselves.
@rockapartie
@rockapartie 4 месяца назад
@@Myako Reshade is somewhat portable, the DLLs and shaders are copied to the game's folder and the shader settings are configured in the overlay, no extra exe you'd have to start before running a game after the initial install.
@Ice_2192
@Ice_2192 4 месяца назад
I literally played OoT with Ship of Harkanian for the first time on my steam deck last night. Holy cow this is a game changer with higher resolution, texture and frame rate.
@Greenalink
@Greenalink 4 месяца назад
Future N64 games that deserve this treatment: * Buck Bumble * Body Harvest * Super Smash Bros * Rare era 3D platformers including Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, DK64 and Conkers Bad Fur Day. * Star Fox 64 with a level select QOL feature
@Nigel222
@Nigel222 4 месяца назад
It's good that stuff like this gets younger people to try out old games.
@karehaqt
@karehaqt 4 месяца назад
This is to hard for todays gamers, it doesn't hold your hand at every step of the way.
@Nigel222
@Nigel222 4 месяца назад
@@karehaqt It's not really a particularly hard game.
@beesmongeese2978
@beesmongeese2978 4 месяца назад
@@Nigel222 Ohh you'd be surprised. Game sites are flooded with people taking a picture of their screen with their phone and asking a vague question with no question mark like "how do I get past this thing"
@hameed
@hameed 4 месяца назад
@@karehaqtcringe
@karehaqt
@karehaqt 4 месяца назад
@@hameed Can't you modern gamers come up with better insults than that?
@CHaosMG
@CHaosMG 4 месяца назад
11:48 makes me extremely happy. literally looking the video on a deck right now
@Moravia90s
@Moravia90s 4 месяца назад
Nintendo ninja squad just began circling around Alex's house
@BurritoKingdom
@BurritoKingdom 4 месяца назад
Yeah. I'm worried about the project now.
@karehaqt
@karehaqt 4 месяца назад
@@BurritoKingdom For what reason, it contains no Nintendo code or assets. You have to dump your legitimately owned cartridge to a ROM and point the software to it. Nintendo hasn't gone after any of the other decomplication projects such as Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time for the same reasons.
@TheForsaken30
@TheForsaken30 4 месяца назад
​@karehaqt you clearly underestimate Nintendo's overly aggressive legal team.
@offspringfan89
@offspringfan89 4 месяца назад
@@karehaqt Nintendo knows they have no legal grounds, but they also know they don't need to be right. They just need to keep harrassing defendants in courts, knowing they can't afford legal costs for much long.
@karehaqt
@karehaqt 4 месяца назад
@@offspringfan89 If they were bothered then they would have gone after the Mario 64 decomp which came out in 2019 and is still on Github. Stop making mountains out of molehills.
@Rayvearn
@Rayvearn 4 месяца назад
i already know how much fun alex had making this video
@willis936
@willis936 4 месяца назад
Your demo shots highlight something I've never noticed in the retro resolution discussion: it looks like the LOD of zooming out is used as a kind of camera lens focus shift. Like your eyes are drawn away from the clock tower in the center and to Link on the right when zoomed out and at low resolution, but with high resolution the clock remains the focal point of the frame. I don't think many games used this limitation so carefully, but it is interesting to see.
@ben-tendo
@ben-tendo 4 месяца назад
Can't wait to see someone take this and port it to Android to have it run on those handhelds such as Anbernic and Retroid the same way SM64 Port and Ship of Harkinian already have done. As for what games should be done next... I think gettin' Jiggy with it and exploring Spiral Mountain is an inevitable one people will want..
@CheckmateStallioN
@CheckmateStallioN 4 месяца назад
The 32 and 64 bit era is when game programming shifted from Assembly (8 and 16 bit games) to C. 8 bit and some 16 bit hardware was too low on memory to even compile C code so it was all Assembly. What an era. RIP Dennis Ritchie. Most people don't even know who he was or his immense influence from the 90s to modern day software. If you ask the avg Joe and all he knows is Steve Jobs or Gates who are nowhere close to the impact that Dennis Ritchie made in tech not just in games but IoT devices (smartphones, smart fridges, etc), elevator controllers, airplane landing/takeoff software, Mars rovers/space shuttle, car software, etc. Who knows how life today would be like without Ritchie's legendary pioneer work
@MegaKiri11
@MegaKiri11 4 месяца назад
You don't need to compile directly on the console. Compile elsewhere and ship the binaries.
@saxoman1
@saxoman1 4 месяца назад
@@MegaKiri11 Not sure if what OP said is actually true, but it seems right. If it is, the reason was more likely that C compilers weren't as efficient as a human doing assembly, and back then your code needed to be as efficient as humanly possible given the limited hardware! What developers did in those days were straight up technical miracles!
@JohnDoe11VII
@JohnDoe11VII 4 месяца назад
Original comment is wrong. Source code, either C or an assembly language is not compiled on the console, it's compiled on your work machine into the instructions/binaries and transferred to the console to run. With the Super Nintendo, games could have been made with C (depends on how much register manipulation was used for performance), with high performance areas being replaced with assembly for performance critical cases. However, industry adaption and change is slow, so Nintendo/Sega probably expected everyone to write assembly code out of tradition. Also, using C adds a layer of conversion with how what you write will actually run on the console. So if you don't have the time to learn what the C compiler is writing, and you are easily hitting ROM size and memory limits, C will only help you make your game easier to port to another console with it's added benefit of being a layer of abstraction. C isn't directly hardware specific. Assembly languages are only CPU specific.
@saxoman1
@saxoman1 4 месяца назад
@JohnDoe11VII Indeed! I didn't mean to suggest that the "compiling on the console" part was correct, it definitely wasn't!
@valgarlienheart
@valgarlienheart 4 месяца назад
The Winamp.... I can't...
@nkw1985
@nkw1985 4 месяца назад
I was just thinking wow I hadn't seen Winamp since I used to burn CDs in like 2000 lol.
@szeltovivarsydroxan9944
@szeltovivarsydroxan9944 4 месяца назад
I have been installing Winamp on every new laptop I buy. And I still use the old school skin. There is no reason you couldn't.
@japzone
@japzone 4 месяца назад
Winamp is going open source later this year apparently.
@Criticmasterz
@Criticmasterz 4 месяца назад
Oh it is ​@@japzone
@MysticMage255
@MysticMage255 4 месяца назад
Winamp will always hold a special place in my heart and is absolutely nostalgic. However, Foobar2000 is where it's at!
@xxlee1019
@xxlee1019 4 месяца назад
We need the banjo games recompiled ASAP
@leonschroder2970
@leonschroder2970 4 месяца назад
I find it so great that you cover these things on Digital Foundry! This is exactly what people need to know about, thank you.
@silverwah
@silverwah 4 месяца назад
Wow this is neat. I woudn't mind having Conker's Bad Fur Day like this as it definitely helps with aiming in game. Love that game.
@TemporaryTemporary-y2j
@TemporaryTemporary-y2j 4 месяца назад
@11:21 I had a similar glitch happen, but it occurred when I was playing a music *.flac file. Totally random and out of nowhere. The song stuttered in the exact manner as the audio in this part of the video. After that incident, I noticed such glitches randomly occuring with increased frequency. It got to the point where my computer froze and then when I rebooted it, the OS failed to load. A lot of troubleshooting narrowed the possibilities down. A faulty SATA cable was the culprit. Luckily simply changing the cable rectified everything. These days with M.2 SSDs this isn't much of a problem, but for those still using SATA connections, keep this in mind. Most SATA cables on the market are of extremely low quality. Another possibility could be faulty thermals. One of my friends had freezes and crashes that had begun to occur with increasing frequency and he performed all diagnostics such as scan disk and SFC, etc. It was finally found out that his processor was overheating. The thermal compound was completely gone and his CPU fan was working overtime to keep temperatures down (his PC is more than a decade old). Applying thermal paste to the CPU solved his problem (as well as cleaning the dust from the CPU fan). His PC now no longer hangs and the fans are quiet when the computer isn't under intensive CPU load and the computer runs for hours on end without crashing as it previously did. Or it could have just been a random glitch in this particular instance in this video. I haven't played the recomp so I can't comment, but I have played the original Majora's Mask on PC without encountering that error.
@goku01899
@goku01899 4 месяца назад
Bomberman Hero and Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon would be awesome with this treatment
@bravebiird
@bravebiird 4 месяца назад
man i've been so in love with this recomp and just can't wait for it to support randomizers so i can play it a ton more top of my wishlist aside from the zeldas are recomps of paper mario, kirby 64, smash 64, star fox 64, and goldeneye!
@adfasdfwelasd
@adfasdfwelasd 4 месяца назад
Perhaps Rogue Squadron or Shadows of the Empire would be an interesting test for this technology. What a wonderful time to be online. That said, the more reporting I see on this topic, the more scared I am that the ninjas will come in and ruin it for everyone.
@EspenSGX
@EspenSGX 4 месяца назад
Rogue Squadron already has a PC version. Shadows of the Empire though...
@bat_mobile7545
@bat_mobile7545 4 месяца назад
the bold choice of choosing Majora's Mask as the base for this project is amazing, it's like we experience the same terrible fate again but this time in 120fps+ and high resolution scale *Happy mask salesman laugh*
@danieladams5379
@danieladams5379 4 месяца назад
OMG I need this for Blast Corps, Wave Race and Pilotwings!!
@RatedRY
@RatedRY 4 месяца назад
Wow, incredible, I have no idea how I haven't heard of this already but thanks for the heads up. I was just literally thinking about replaying this again, and I was very strongly considering finishing my playthrough of the remaster on 3ds that I never finished years ago. Now though, I'll definitely play it this way!
@cikame
@cikame 4 месяца назад
Nightdive-esk N64 remasters at your fingertips. Incredible, i'm extremely excited about this development and can't wait to see what else people port, i'm secretly hoping for Operation Winback since there's always been trouble emulating it and running it at a smooth frame rate would be transformative, i played the PS2 version again last year but there's something about the N64 original. A huge step for preservation.
@jsr734
@jsr734 4 месяца назад
Sadly, this is not preservation as preservation includes preserving the way the original machine worked. In this case you are basically just compiling a brand new game for the PC without presrving the original game and machine´s limitations.
@cikame
@cikame 4 месяца назад
@@jsr734 I understand, the ultimate form of preservation would be to maintain the original hardware and carts for as long as possible in climate controlled museums, but while that's awesome people are doing that it's not handy for you or me or future generations, keeping a digital library is more important to me so then the next step is how you experience that library. When someone wants to check out Turok in 80 years time maybe the Nightdive remaster will still be available but that's not original and Windows might have broken support by then, so the next most advanced version is a fan made PC port, emulation gets you a bit closer but with drawbacks depending on advancements in 80 years, there are those hardware emulated consoles you can buy but those aren't avaliable to everyone. Creating a source code like this even if it's not a true 100% decompile allows anyone to get these games working on future hardware, it's not original but it is accessible, and in my eyes the more people who have access the better.
@blackwolf616
@blackwolf616 4 месяца назад
Amazing video, you should do one about Ship of Harkinian, and the consecuent comparison between the 2 efforts!
@kodemasterx
@kodemasterx 4 месяца назад
Majora’s Mask on PC + Nerrel’s HD Texture Pack ❤❤❤❤
@IncognitoActivado
@IncognitoActivado 4 месяца назад
Nope.
@guybehindacamera
@guybehindacamera 4 месяца назад
I just tried this out and I absolutely love it! 60FPS is an absolute game changer
@bananachild1936
@bananachild1936 4 месяца назад
60FPS 'Banjo-Kazooie', 'Conker's BFD', or 'Paper Mario 64' (which recently had its decompilation project finished) would be an AMAZING experience on this recompiler thing. Also I just recently watched the Mario 64 RTX video again, and it still feels weird hearing Alex, Mr. PC guy himself, sometimes gloat about an N64 title. Or any Nintendo title for that matter. But ya just love to see it.
@MrSnake9419
@MrSnake9419 4 месяца назад
Unfortunately Banjo kazooie decomp has been sitting at the same percentage for over a year
@dapperfan44
@dapperfan44 4 месяца назад
I'm excited for the possibilities of N64 and PS1 as well. Someone has done a wide-screen and 60 FPS mod of the original CTR, which makes it look like it was on the Dreamcast (Like Frogger 2 Dreamcast vs PS1). It's SO good.
@dhgmrz17
@dhgmrz17 4 месяца назад
​@@MrSnake9419 That's why this is big, you don't need a full decompilation. Majora's Mask isn't fully decompilated yet either and they were able to get this up and running.
@MrSnake9419
@MrSnake9419 4 месяца назад
@@dhgmrz17 I know it's so exciting
@pelham123_7
@pelham123_7 4 месяца назад
Sin & Punishment Paper Mario Lylat Wars Rayman 2: The Great Escape 1080 Snowboarding Mystical Ninja 1&2 Kirby 64 The Crystal Shards Mischief makers Bakuretsu Muteki Bangaioh (Bangai-O) Hybrid Heaven Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber Densha De Go! 64 Mysterious Dungeon 64: Shiren the Wanderer Dezaemon 3D Nushi Tsuri 64
@BurritoKingdom
@BurritoKingdom 4 месяца назад
Whoa winamp. I haven't seen that in over 20 years.
@DrMateen36
@DrMateen36 4 месяца назад
9:55 Damn aint that a blast from the past! That Winamp Skin / UI definitely brings back memories.
@ColdFinger
@ColdFinger 4 месяца назад
Gimmie Mario Golf, baby!
@Akires23
@Akires23 4 месяца назад
I’ve been playing Majora’s Mask in 144 fps at 21:9 and it’s nuts. Feels so good
@onionnight
@onionnight 4 месяца назад
WinAmp? Wow I haven't seen that in a while!!!
@dainezi
@dainezi 4 месяца назад
Kids just got an amazing gift from gamers. Being able to experience so many masterpieces in such nice conditions and as a novelty is simply awesome!
@JustFeral
@JustFeral 4 месяца назад
This video whips the llama's ass
@MrJeanjean2009
@MrJeanjean2009 4 месяца назад
Just tested it on the SD Oled, wow, Zelda in fluid 90hz and sharp image is something else, it's like a shocking initial reaction, we're so used of these games at low quality.
@SliceofKris
@SliceofKris 4 месяца назад
I can not wait for every n64 game to be recompiled but mostly banjo kazooie, the xbox emu version just doesn't hold up and been waiting on that decompile version but with recomplile I guess I am waiting on that one as well. But the better thing about this is that if someone want to make a game playable that only they like it isn't going to take 40 years as the more famous games get decompiled first, they have a chance too!
@lpnp9477
@lpnp9477 4 месяца назад
I think the Xbox version of banjo is pretty good, but I'd like to see it in 60fps+. What I think we absolutely need though is dk64. It doesn't get re released and it's not emulated well. Plus the native performance sucks. Get this up at 90 frames with a switch kongs anywhere mod and I'll have golden bananas falling out of every orifice
@naucs_
@naucs_ 3 месяца назад
this has to be one of the craziest things ive ever seen. its extra crazy for me because like 2 weeks ago i started Turing Complete and The Farmer was Replaced on steam so I now actually understand the idea of Decompiling an assembly language and recompiling it into C. I'm actually able to use recently acquired knowledge to further understand a new development on something i love. I feel like a goddamn child again
@uncario
@uncario 4 месяца назад
Alex and the N64: the love affair continues 😂
@rustyshackleford6957
@rustyshackleford6957 4 месяца назад
I was playing this at 1440p 165 fps, absolutely unreal!
@Youtube-Censorship-Police
@Youtube-Censorship-Police 4 месяца назад
it feels dirty when alex talks about console classics
@MoonSarito
@MoonSarito 4 месяца назад
One thing I love about these recompilation projects is that not only does it give you the freedom to run the game as best as possible on PC, but it also gives people the opportunity to port the games to whatever platforms they want. It was incredible to be able to play Ocarina of Time on Wii U in Widescreen at 60fps, seeing the original Super Mario 64 running on a DSi was incredible, not to mention other projects like Sonic Mania that finally got a version for 3DS (which was going to be released but was canceled) and people are porting it to the Dreamcast, or OpenLara/Tomb Raider which runs on basically everything like the Sega 32x or GBA, there's even a port for a super unknown console called Zeebo, we have GTA 3/VC/San on the PSVita, we even have a port of Street Fighter 2 for the Virtual Boy and I don't even need to talk about Doom then. I think this is simply amazing because not only does it give a chance to have a new way to keep old games alive and fresh, but it also gives older or forgotten consoles a chance to shine as well.
@matiasnelsoncapdevila3497
@matiasnelsoncapdevila3497 4 месяца назад
Not a Nintendo game I know...But can this be done to the original Silent Hill? That game needs it...BADLY.
@1993StrangeBoy
@1993StrangeBoy 4 месяца назад
There's a PC version of it already afaik, and it runs very well on Duckstation with things like a widescreen patch, 4k and the like
@bamster64
@bamster64 4 месяца назад
This is amazing. I can't wait for more ports to come out.
@gravious
@gravious 4 месяца назад
it really is flawless. i'd like conkers bad fur day and wave race 64 next
@mayhemvr7561
@mayhemvr7561 4 месяца назад
Its so much better than the original. 60fps plus on 64 zelda feels so amazing.
@tomkirbygreen
@tomkirbygreen 4 месяца назад
Lovely video Alex, cheers sir!
@KyleRuggles
@KyleRuggles 4 месяца назад
Love this series! I remember my first taste with emulation in the late 90's when I was in high school, there was this card store we used to play Magic The Gathering at and they had a special place in the back where they sold cd's... of stuff! And I picked up a MAME CD with tons of roms, it was very basic but it was something seeing all these arcade games play pretty flawlessly on my back then. I think I still have that CD somewhere.... Winamp FTW!
@rowanunderwood
@rowanunderwood 4 месяца назад
Waiting so hard for the ray tracing version. Already amazing though.
@jakemeyer8188
@jakemeyer8188 Месяц назад
I had this game originally...but I don't recall where I got it and I never actually played it. So, I'm playing through it for the first time using this recompiled, and it's absolutely gorgeous. I can't wait for OoT Recompiled (although the Ship of Harkinian build is pretty flawless).
@chris42069
@chris42069 4 месяца назад
Watch Nintendo fork this and use it and claim its their own work
@SamuelxShaban
@SamuelxShaban 4 месяца назад
That CRT shader at 9:10 made it look sooooo good I'm now tempted to play it even tho I've never been a retro gaming fan ×-×
@GugureSux
@GugureSux 4 месяца назад
Dude, OoT and MM are unironically, LITERALLY two of the greatest video games of all time. Anyone even remotely interested in gaming NEEDS to play both. Back to back.
@SamuelxShaban
@SamuelxShaban 4 месяца назад
​@@GugureSuxsetting this up later tonight 🫡
@WhiteBoyGamer
@WhiteBoyGamer 4 месяца назад
nintendo should start selling n64 ports on steam now. they cant stop this here anyways. nintendo hates losing control over their ip and therefor dont like pc. but they already lost it now, damage control would be to sell it themself now
@xsct878
@xsct878 4 месяца назад
I don’t think Nintendo care.
@WhiteBoyGamer
@WhiteBoyGamer 4 месяца назад
@@xsct878 they may not care about selling it themself but they heavily care about it being available like this on pc. nintendo is known for how protective with any legal means about their ip they are
@nightcliff5411
@nightcliff5411 4 месяца назад
@@xsct878 if they dont care then why did they sue and shut down so many cool projects.
@EDcaseNO
@EDcaseNO 4 месяца назад
kudos on mentioning resolution effecting presentation. it's personal taste, per game, but in general i find a *small* bump combined with the right crt filter looks incredible.
@dustinkinard7431
@dustinkinard7431 4 месяца назад
The “real” N64 footage used in this video seems suspect to me, like it was purposefully recorded using composite to a generic av to hdmi adapter. I’m able to get better visuals from my N64 with s-video cables to my Retrotink mini.
@BurritoKingdom
@BurritoKingdom 4 месяца назад
Looks better than the emulated crap on the switch. I really wish the Switch Online emulator had better button configurations.
@dustinkinard7431
@dustinkinard7431 4 месяца назад
@@BurritoKingdom I only have the standard NSO service, so I haven’t experienced N64 on that for myself. What I find even more disappointing is that Wii U VC for N64 supported full button mapping on a per game basis, while NSO doesn’t.
@chrisfratz
@chrisfratz 4 месяца назад
Trust me when I say, that's exactly how N64 looks. I got the same results using s-video to a Tink 5x. The tink mini can only upscale to 480p, and then your TV will scale that up to its native panel resolution. So it probably looks slightly better to your eye because The TV is receiving a lower resolution source. And honestly, to my eyes it's kind of hard to tell the difference between composite and s video on the N64. Same goes jumping from S-Video to RGB, at the N64 had pretty good video output quality.
@chrisfratz
@chrisfratz 4 месяца назад
@@dustinkinard7431 at around 7:20 in the video Alex says that it was captured on a retro tink 4K with the 4.5 scaling mode engaged. I would assume it was captured by John with an RGB modded N64.
@dustinkinard7431
@dustinkinard7431 4 месяца назад
@@chrisfratz I stand corrected, thanks for pointing that out. I missed that detail in my initial viewing.
@Loknath009
@Loknath009 3 месяца назад
I never thought a N64 game would melt my computer. At 4K my laptop is 🔥🔥🔥 but looking amazing!
@karehaqt
@karehaqt 4 месяца назад
I wish Alex had made a comment on how Nintendo can't do anything about getting this project pulled by their lawyers to stop all the stupid comments that are already popping up. "Oh but they got rid of Switch emulators blah blah blah". Yuzu had Nintendo's code in it, none of these recompilation projects have any Nintendo code or assets in them, you have to provide your own ROM ripped from your legally purchased cartridges. And yes, you can rip cartridges to your computer, it's not voodoo.
@HendrixRipoff
@HendrixRipoff 4 месяца назад
The nostalgia overload at the beginning was glorious. I've only ever played this game on an emulator that kept the original framerate albeit at high res. Can't wait to dig into this
@chrisfratz
@chrisfratz 4 месяца назад
For the people worried about Nintendo and sending a cease and desist to this project, that won't happen because you need to provide your own ROM. Nintendo would have already done that with the PC ports of Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time if they had grounds to do it.
@Pandsu
@Pandsu 4 месяца назад
tbh that's what people said about emulators in general and then look what happened with Yuzu and Citra. They came up with some ways to justify it and they might be able to again here.
@chrisfratz
@chrisfratz 4 месяца назад
@@Pandsu Yuzu was using stuff that it shouldn't have and wasn't entirely clean room. Citra was caught in the crossfire.
@Pandsu
@Pandsu 4 месяца назад
@@chrisfratz Yeah true, that's the justification they found. But you bet your ass that if someone asked about Nintendo taking legal action like a year before they did, everyone would've said that they couldn't and wouldn't and that they already tried and failed with VisualBoyAdvance back in the day and whatnot. I doubt anyone, or at least not many people, would bring up or even think of the stuff that actually ended up breaking Yuzu's neck. So who knows if stuff like this has some specific thing in there somewhere that kinda sorta technically maybe gives Nintendo a leg to stand on in court that's enough for these devs to pull the project as well instead of taking on the costly legal battle.
@the1whoplayz
@the1whoplayz 4 месяца назад
@@Pandsu Yuzu literally supported piracy, ofc they'd be taken down. If you asked anybody who was actually involved in the scenes instead of being a tourist, they would've told you this. Anyways, this recompilation is a completely different thing; It's not emulation.
@xtr.7662
@xtr.7662 4 месяца назад
​@@Pandsuthey cant the yuzu/citra devs were dumb enough to make major mistakes
@ticogis
@ticogis 4 месяца назад
Can't wait for fan full remasters with hires textures + RT
@summer_xo
@summer_xo 4 месяца назад
I MUCH prefer 20 fps haha, I feel like im literally the only one!
@Pandsu
@Pandsu 4 месяца назад
Nah I agree. To me, the high fps mode looks kinda like those AI upscaled videos that were all the rage a while ago but looked absolutely terrible. Just without the horrible interpolation artifacts I guess. But it still looks really off, kinda sped-up and just really distracting and even kinda nauseating at times. Not like it's actually natively running at those high framerates. Maybe a mere doubled framerate would look better, who knows.
@IsraelSocial
@IsraelSocial 4 месяца назад
You are the only one
@nintendo1889x
@nintendo1889x 4 месяца назад
20 fps is objectively garbage
@nintendo1889x
@nintendo1889x 4 месяца назад
@@IsraelSocial 20 fps is about as much fun as watching golf on TV lol
@lpnp9477
@lpnp9477 4 месяца назад
You're not the only one. There are literally dozens of you.
@jordychinchin
@jordychinchin 4 месяца назад
We're experiencing a renaissance for N64 games into the modern era and it's a beautiful thing to behold. Now we need a DF deep dive into Perfect Dark for PC
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