Zepla reacts to "Why do people play MMO's solo?" by JSH 

she’s back in the usa 🇺🇸 yeehaaaw

probs cuz shes back in the states and around her southern family

Haha I noticed it as well! I thought she was drunk.... I know my southern accent cranks up to a dozen when I'm a little tipsy.

'Murica lol 😂

I have a Southern gf. Hits me hard lol.

I hope you’ve made that statement up for attention.

@@sihi5634 i mean, as someone whos played equal time in wow and ffxiv, gotta agree with OP

@@amystheticc still doesn’t make sense unless you’re grip on reality is seriously warped… one group is your species and one is a computer that says the same thing to everyone because it’s told to by a human programmer, it sounds like you two are part of the problem, interact and you might receive some interaction back?

@@sihi5634 the point (in my experience at the very least) is wow groups were often so unbelievably toxic or cold and quiet that it truly felt like a caricature. not that that doesn't happen in xiv or any other online game, but it really was often an unfriendly community (again, in my experience)

@@sihi5634 I wouldn't say it's a warped grip on reality. It's immersion. It's good writing and world building if you feel connected to the fictional characters. Be it in video games, movies, books, TV, etc.

Yes!

Southern? As in American Southern? :O

or they just dont care really and call each other ''hey''

If you ask me that is a cooo strategy!

Who's to say that we aren't giant and that everything around us is also giant so it feels normal for us?

So basically you are playing a Lala while the rest playing Roe.

Multiple massive players, perhaps

You've cracked the code!

Those would be multiple massive players

It’s ok I don’t like talking to people either and this MMO has helped me come out of my shell a bit. I downloaded discord so I could talk to people in my FC. But if you just want to play the game solo that’s ok too

Also one Bundred is hilarious imma stick to bunhundred tho 🤣

very true. was in a guild in WoW with hundreds of members. it sucked. i formed a group of 5-10 friends in the guild. we left and made our own. so much better

Most of the people in this Comment section is basically describing my whole life in FFXIV to why I was a solo player for years. You'd expect to join large FCs thinking you're going to make a lot of friends just to find out that out of 100 players(I think that was the max of a large FC) the FC seems to be divided in cliques. No one just does things together, and when they DO do content together. It's the cliques together and then usually awkwardly asking one random player in the FC if they want to fill the last spot. When it comes to open world and randomly bumping into players, they ignore you 50% of the times, 30% of the times they'll think you're a weirdo for trying to play with them and do Fates or ask them if they want to do the game together with you, 10% of the times someone will randomly add you but never talk to you 5% they dont know English. And the 5% they think you're trying to flirt with them. Then another reason to play solo is most of the community acts like middle school or high school kids. I started playing FFXIV when I just turnt 18 and most of them were 1.5x and 2x older than me and acting younger than I did. Sure I love to have fun but I got tied up in frivolous nonsensical drama on every corner because of "Ooh Katie is talking to my ex and I saw them sitting together!" or "You ignored me for 1 day so I've replaced you with someone else who has time for me!" Like having friends in FFXIV felt like a full time job. lol Finally another reason why I played solo, whenever I did so happen to have friends or an FC, I was constantly dragged into doing content. I'm the type who likes to do things when I feel like doing things. And I like to progress by myself, not wait for others to catch up and such. I use to be a gillionaire in FFXIV because while my friends were busy talking in Uldah, I was playing by myself with the NPCs in Trust, leveling all of my classes to 80 and making bank and investing a house. I couldn't keep friends because I rather do things alone, not being forced to play with someone everyday all day. Ffxiv felt very stressful at times when it came to friends. I play BDO now. And this game is basically the opposite of FFXIV. You can have friends and still have fun and can play alone and never feel lonely because the chat is always moving and everyone keeps in touch with each other, no cliques, no worries of stop playing for a few days and being replaced, no being dragged to do specific content. I'm happy here lol

I feel that lmao

her FFXIV fans will absolutely be upset with her.. cause that is what FFXIV die hards do

@@kanick1983 thats what all MMO die hards do

@@herbythechef7624 you're right but FFXIV ones are pretty bad sometimes

/mastervolume [0-100] or blank to turn off/on. also you can do the same but with /bgm for just the music

@@flyyf1 i think you can assign this to a button too

@@flyyf1 Thanks!

yeah, sounds like you should take a moment to look at the keybindings available

Just means your ultimate goal isn't to make connections. Nothing wrong with that, as I actually find that to be the general norm these days. It was very different back in the early days of the internet and online gaming, but with EVERYTHING being online, it's easy to not feel that same way as it was back then.

i totally get that feeling even when i try to find people to talk to i can only seem to talk about what im doing in the game at the time and noone really cares about that. Unless im in a discord and actually talking to someone i cant find a connection at all.

Dont be sad over what others expect of you, did you have fun playing these games? Then why feel sad. I'm not playing an online game to make friends, I'm playing it to enjoy the game and the long-term progression it offers to me. There is this sickening mentality in modern day society that you have to be social and want to go outside etc etc.... It's simply draining to some, I'm more or less a hermit for the winter months and every year people think I'm ill or depressed etc.... I just dont feel like being around people, otherwise Im perfectly fine. But everything has to be an issue these days.

Well, if you want to make friends then get out there and talk to them! In FF it was extremely easy to connect with players, hanging out in Gridania emoting people was all I had to do when I started - not bragging just tryijg to say this is in comparison a very receptive and open community. You don’t need to rely on game mechanics forcing you together at all I know this is not easy for everyone, and social anxiety is a b*tch, but if you really want to make friends online 1. Don’t wait for an invitation, as long as you are honest and give/receive basic respect it’ll work itself out, contact others and/or join a FC 2. Be very picky about who you end up keeping close to yourself, if someone is disrespectful or too needy tell them flat-out so they can adjust… or drop them There is nothing wrong with being ‘alone’ either, like the others said. Even if you formed a community, it can be tiring to maintain it sometimes, it’s fine to disengage. And if you feel like social dynamics are murky…. ask questions 🤷🏻‍♀️ People will tell you how they as an individual would like to interact with you if you ask them and are willing to receive their answer.

Social dynamics is a skill as much as anything else, but learning what's valid and what to ignore, how to be charismatic, etc. takes time. It's not like you're incapable of improving - it's a matter of whether learning is a priority for you. Also, much like any other skill you're developing, you should be patient & forgiving with yourself and accept there'll be loads of mistakes made in the process. .. and if you _don't_ want to be social, that's totally cool too (so long as you don't develop a selfish attitude as a result)

You know Facebook's older than World of Warcraft? It's not like social media didn't exist then. The internet may not have been as organized or advanced as today, but we're also not talking about the 1990s here. Social media was very much around back then too. It was a multitude of things - it's foolish to act like it's just 1 thing that caused MMOs to change.

That is true in a very technical sense, they were only created months apart, same year. I also don't understand what that has to do with what I said. Of course the internet existed during that time otherwise WoW wouldn't have been created! And I never said it was the ONE thing that destroyed it I just think it's one of the bigger factors. This is intended as a discussion after all and there are many other points that were also brought up I didn't think it was necessary for me to copy paste every single reason on this thread, I was bringing up one point. But comments like yours just prove my point as to why internet interaction has become so bad, your reply shows a complete lack of nuance that I expressed in my original point, which is very damaging to an MMO.

​@@meriwidget3474 You're post was not nuanced🤣, and you fail at reading comprehension. I never said that _you_ said it was one thing - I said you _act_ that way - it's what your sentences insinuate. I correctly _assumed_ you had more than one reason, but people could be forgiven for thinking otherwise when your post reads "Social media killed the concept of an MMO mostly" and then you never mention anything else, instead launching into some crazy boomer rant about mental health studies that have _nothing_ to do with MMOs. My point was that Facebook predated that time and wasn't even the first form of social media. You're really reaching to work backward from your conclusions.

People usually had a much slower gameplay in the past. There were situations where you had to wait for the healer to reg mana quite a lot. That's still when i'm starting to do small talk in a dungeon. When someone is AFK, healer is rezzing, we are waiting for the lift etc. When i'm tanking and don't have to pause because of the game, then i simply have no time for small talk. I'm pulling, fighting, next pull, fighting, adding the next group, fighting, dungeon is over, leaving. When playing M+ in WoW there's often some smalltalk before and sometimes after the dungeon. But it's a timed mode and people are focused so... ofc the communication during the run is lowered to a minimum. I think people are social, but the expression does not add up with what people expect. Like... would you prefer a DPS that is chatting a lot over a DPS that picked up some mage food in the last run to give it to the next healer? Does it make the second one less social because he doesn't talk? People often overlook that the reaction to "i'm new" is that people slow down, wait for him to catch up, don't mind his mistakes, give him extra heals, marking focus targets. Socializing is not always about talking a lot, that's a pretty extroverted perspective.

I do not undestand.

MMOG = Men Masquerading Online as Girls

@@sweepingtime You got wrong a bit: MMORPG = Many Men Online Role-Playing Girls

can you play classes c wrath/classes wow solo these days? how's the experience?

@@maximilian3394 I'm still leveling but it's pretty close to the original experience. Some classes do quite well alone, others can't do anything.

this. i used to play runescape for a long time, but it was more of a passive game where i could watch tv or do other things on my 2nd monitor while i played because half the stuff you can do afk lol. thats why i went back to WoW and now onto FFXIV and have a blast in FF