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Zerg Abuses the Supply Cap (that everyone’s forgotten about) | Diamond in the Ruff #75 - StarCraft 2 

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I cast a StarCraft 2 game from Ruff, a Terran with very creative gameplay. How will he ruff up this feisty Zerg opponent, aGiLe, who has abused the zerg supply cap?
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@PiGstarcraft
@PiGstarcraft 2 года назад
Cheers for the love guys! There are plenty more videos in the RuFF series so check them out here: ru-vid.com/group/PLFUDU8AOevUfdEq20wYq8Sm9z3sc1yn0l And of course, give him some love as well! www.twitch.tv/ruff_stuff_tv | ru-vid.com_stuff
@Hephera
@Hephera 2 года назад
15:00 for anyone looking for the moment where agile cheats the supply cap and does up to 219/200. then he does it again at 17:13 and 19:44
@lickenchicken143
@lickenchicken143 2 года назад
how? build cancel on some spore crawlers or something with drones?
@wojciechrogala6435
@wojciechrogala6435 2 года назад
@@lickenchicken143 You can see just before the supply abuse he builds mass spores at one base. Then max out and cancel spores.
@CtrlAltRetreat
@CtrlAltRetreat 2 года назад
@@wojciechrogala6435 Don't you lose all the cancellation penalty if you do that? How much does it cost?
@wojciechrogala6435
@wojciechrogala6435 2 года назад
@@CtrlAltRetreat You regain 75% cost of cancelled building. Spore cracker cost is 75 minerals. Building and canceling 20 spore crawlers costs You 375 minerals, which can be harvested by those drones in 3,75 rounds (25-30 in game seconds).
@freppie_
@freppie_ Год назад
@@wojciechrogala6435 with 90 drones 375 minerals is gathered in mere seconds
@bofaybaykweh
@bofaybaykweh Год назад
Agile having creep spread over the entire map at 8 minutes 👀
@eskurian8565
@eskurian8565 2 года назад
In a beam battle, I've found it's never a question of whose beam is stronger, but who can grunt the most.
@billr8227
@billr8227 2 года назад
"Shot his nutz off because it was tucked into his pants!" So funny! Just perfect banter pig, keep up the great work! Always love your work, and your Florencio games!
@rockandrolljew89
@rockandrolljew89 2 года назад
Super inefficient play with some cool details that make him really strong... for a minute there, it sounded like PiG was casting a Dark game
@Broockle
@Broockle 2 года назад
Not getting ur brain blended out of whack is very hard, especially in a game like this lol
@parishala
@parishala 2 года назад
At 12:12, you would hold the gun like that if you were left eye dominant, and left hand dominant, but your left hand was unusable, so you were shooting right hand unsupported while aiming with your left eye.
@Orimthekeyacolite
@Orimthekeyacolite 2 года назад
I'm also not a fan of colored beam fights in Harry Potter, but the one in HotS works I think because they made it into a mission-forming mechanic. It's more of a comprehensive visual for the progress bar that would otherwise have to be represented in abstract numbers
@twilightgardenspresentatio6384
@twilightgardenspresentatio6384 2 года назад
-big trouble in little China
@lickenchicken143
@lickenchicken143 2 года назад
@@twilightgardenspresentatio6384 =Heat, with those EMP's.
@BaufenBeast
@BaufenBeast 2 года назад
Best beam struggles I can think of are Kirby Triple Deluxe or The Wonderful 101.
@d07RiV
@d07RiV 2 года назад
It's basically the caged illidan mission from WC3
@d4niel457
@d4niel457 2 года назад
Mew vs Mewtwo
@irgoououm2661
@irgoououm2661 2 года назад
"That's RuuuuuFF...."
@Markfr0mCanada
@Markfr0mCanada 2 года назад
7:45 I think this might be the first time in watching SC2 on RU-vid that I've ever seen a squad of ghosts take about a bunch of slow zerglings. What a game!
@Jesu32
@Jesu32 2 года назад
aGiLe taking notes from Solar
@jackmermigas9465
@jackmermigas9465 2 года назад
That was really entertaining and great insight I wouldn't have known a quarter of what was going on but the commentary makes it awesome!
@mikesavagetv
@mikesavagetv 2 года назад
I haven't considered that mechanic and looks pretty good so you don't fall down on army supply in the late game
@sadbanana5896
@sadbanana5896 2 года назад
No... It's so that you keep high drone count. You either do that or you give up drones
@streetglidestukov8694
@streetglidestukov8694 2 года назад
Glad to see even GM's get rekt by an unscouted mass BC tech switch
@tigera6
@tigera6 2 года назад
He deserved it for not even scout the main base of the opponent even once in the entire game, all he needed was flying speed Overlord there every 30s or so.
@twilightgardenspresentatio6384
@twilightgardenspresentatio6384 2 года назад
When I was young I used to enjoy grabbing an opponent and headbutting them mercilessly until they fell and I could barely stand or when someone would put me in a headlock I would grab them by the head and slam both of our faces into the ground or into the wall expecting the pain and delirium, I always recovered more quickly and was able to pounce on my target I think I love agile now
@mcspud
@mcspud 2 года назад
You need to do 1 lesson of wrestling of BJJ sir
@chir0pter
@chir0pter 2 года назад
12:35 lol
@kazinak980
@kazinak980 2 года назад
this was so informative and fun to watch, sadly RU-vid doesn't let you press the like button more than 1 time
@whitem00gle
@whitem00gle 2 года назад
That was a decent game.. gg wp both players..
@eckee
@eckee Год назад
that's a sick creep spread regardless
@juny9445
@juny9445 2 года назад
This was fun.GG
@enriquegarciacota3914
@enriquegarciacota3914 Год назад
Light beam battles are Tight
@sirlisterofsmeg333
@sirlisterofsmeg333 2 года назад
Hell of a game.
@twilightgardenspresentatio6384
@twilightgardenspresentatio6384 2 года назад
I’ve been waiting for this particular form of mechanical abuse for some time now. Thank you for offering this sacrifice. Now let’s see what’s in em! (Spark - Flame - Smoke)
@isaacsteele7986
@isaacsteele7986 2 года назад
From what I can see in both starcraft games people are scared of losing their bank in the latergame. But in most situations you do not lose because you mine out, you lose because your army gets destroyed and you cant stop the push because you rebuild too slowly. So having more production structures and a bigger army for the important fight makes alot of sense. Obviously it depends on many factors, but I always wonder when pros float thousands of minerals yet they are not making more buildings to remax faster.
@GameFuMaster
@GameFuMaster 2 года назад
what a throw
@arankoka
@arankoka 2 года назад
... and terran has no-supply-mules anyway, while zergs factory need supply in form of injecting queens till u throw them away in lategame
@CtrlAltRetreat
@CtrlAltRetreat 2 года назад
Why would you throw away your queens when you have late game creep spread? Transfuse stays great all game too.
@real_MacrocosM
@real_MacrocosM 2 года назад
I wish you'd post the replay file of these RuFF episodes. I often want to study his gas timings and stuff with these early ghost builds
@PiGstarcraft
@PiGstarcraft 2 года назад
You should subscribe to RuFF's replay packs! Follow Ruff: www.twitch.tv/ruff_stuff_tv YT: ru-vid.com_stuff
@rochlum
@rochlum 2 года назад
brain hurts to see no ravens.
@platonelenin
@platonelenin 2 года назад
Ruff is the best.
@hiramrichmond9111
@hiramrichmond9111 2 года назад
I NEVER FORGOT ABOUT THIS I ALWAYS ASK ZERG STREAMERS TO TRY THUS AND THEY NEVER LISTEN
@underfall2749
@underfall2749 2 года назад
Oh yeah, if you morph a drone it removes its supply cost so technically you could have 200 supply of Zerg forces without losing drones sure it’ll cost a bit more to morph then cancel but in the end to have a 20-50 supply advantage it’s worth it
@ArtietheArchon
@ArtietheArchon 2 года назад
i wonder how much benefit it would be to have just built a raven and a few marines and just start sweeping creep
@PiGstarcraft
@PiGstarcraft 2 года назад
definitely would have been nice to push it back! I think Agile would have tried to jump on anything that moved out though so it woulda been tricky
@PlusOneGamer
@PlusOneGamer 2 года назад
When it comes to beam battles like you were saying, I feel like the only show to use them effectively was Dragon Ball Z and even they used beam battles sparingly. The only two I can remember off the top of my head are the iconic Goku Kamehameha against Vegta's Galick Gun and then Cell and Teen Gohan with the Father Son Kamehameha. Those are the only good beam battles I can think of.
@ruludos1977
@ruludos1977 2 года назад
that nuke hurt my soul ;~;
@Pikkabuu
@Pikkabuu 2 года назад
Nah. That spore name doesn't have the same ring as Pylo the Pylon. But what would have a similar ring? Seppo the Spore? Sam the Spore?
@MrSAv1Or
@MrSAv1Or 2 года назад
7:30 good creep :)
@chir0pter
@chir0pter 2 года назад
6:50 this is some advance nerding, i have never cared or particularly noticed fights using beams of light..
@antihackerify
@antihackerify 2 года назад
Its funny How big is the Gap between these guys and the top players, even though both are GM.
@michaelsattler7017
@michaelsattler7017 2 года назад
super obvious. but can be fun to watch when mistakes are unpredictable
@marcinluter1195
@marcinluter1195 2 года назад
i need 2 adepts for this guy to win...
@kingpet
@kingpet 2 года назад
lol that was ugly half the time, but it was stuff fun to watch.
@PiGstarcraft
@PiGstarcraft 2 года назад
not the cleanest situations but I enjoy seeing the unique circumstances
@lynk_1240
@lynk_1240 2 года назад
I have honestly wondered why I don't see pros doing that. After maxing and building some bank, just making mass spore/spine, remaxing on whatever composition you are on, and then cancelling the spore/spine so you can still have a huge eco. I get that it is a straight up resource loss, but I think the ability to have 80 drones AND 140 army supply is easily worth the loss from 20 canceled spore/spine.
@jeffreywarf
@jeffreywarf 2 года назад
I think (not sure) that pro games are too fast and pros are generally too good at keeping vision to not see that happen and take advantage of that before the overmax can happen
@PiGstarcraft
@PiGstarcraft 2 года назад
Snute used to do this but not sure why we don't see it more often
@app2530
@app2530 2 года назад
I dont know either, but if it was worth it, im sure more pros would do it
@Scawtsauce
@Scawtsauce 2 года назад
I wish he repair bc.. it's cathartic
@AmericanCaesarian
@AmericanCaesarian 2 года назад
A long time ago (2018) I reached master while playing like aGiLe.
@LiviuGelea
@LiviuGelea 2 года назад
How about you do a challenge where you tap into the REAL zerg supply cap by converting an SCV and building a command center
@Kerostasis
@Kerostasis 2 года назад
That worked in Brood War because each race technically used a different kind of supply (T-Supply, Z-Control, P-Psi). In SC2 they're all just "Supply" so they don't stack anymore, sadly.
@app2530
@app2530 2 года назад
@@Kerostasis yup, even controlling three races as zerg, supply will cap at 200 in sc2 sadly :(
@hiramrichmond9111
@hiramrichmond9111 2 года назад
I think he does the 14 hatch because you can skip the longs if you want
@stefanalenius
@stefanalenius 2 года назад
1:25 Warning! Do NOT try this at home!
@himaji1369
@himaji1369 2 года назад
Wait, I think I know this aGile, he is in my clan I think
@volsere
@volsere 2 года назад
The lack of scouting is insane
@AHersheyHere
@AHersheyHere 2 года назад
This is what happens when you don't harass the creep spread.
@googane7755
@googane7755 2 года назад
Literally got blindsided by the massive tech switch. Good on ruff for also sniping the spire and lair so that he couldn't respond in time
@OpiatesAndTits
@OpiatesAndTits 2 года назад
Too busy microing drones to get 200+ army supply I guess lol
@erictripps125
@erictripps125 2 года назад
I think agile messed up the 3 hatch before overlord opening.
@Broockle
@Broockle 2 года назад
what's wrong with 3 hatch?
@erictripps125
@erictripps125 2 года назад
@@Broockle nothing. I think agile was doing a 3 hatch before building overlords build but accidently made 1.
@aarongazzaniga1929
@aarongazzaniga1929 2 года назад
Did I just see a planetary kill a creep tumor?
@aarongazzaniga1929
@aarongazzaniga1929 2 года назад
High level bronze league heroes are very fun
@arttest0156
@arttest0156 2 года назад
does anyone know what terran skin is that?
@tipsyone1
@tipsyone1 2 года назад
might be tyrador, not absolutely sure tho
@yagoa
@yagoa 2 года назад
are ghosts in bunkers any good?
@PiGstarcraft
@PiGstarcraft 2 года назад
can't snipe from inside but they can shoot from in there - it's not terrible but just a bit awkward to micro in and out of them and they take up a lot of space
@moomoodeadcow
@moomoodeadcow 2 года назад
I can't.
@JayMaverick
@JayMaverick 2 года назад
Light beam battles are almost as lazy as movie skybeam.
@jvtc
@jvtc Год назад
Fuckin' Ruff is still around? I remember Destiny hating this guy.
@SeriousApache
@SeriousApache 2 года назад
"This is such a weird build" Did you forget the opponent is Ruff?
@dizzypukas8410
@dizzypukas8410 Год назад
Beam struggle is only good in dragonball
@airiakizuki5592
@airiakizuki5592 2 года назад
if this was wings of liberty id think this was two bronze noobs playing
@Aki-Wolf
@Aki-Wolf Год назад
Sad thats agile is just a exploider/cheater , no honor for him
@checkmatenate
@checkmatenate 2 года назад
what are these bronze? 1500 mmr?
@PiGstarcraft
@PiGstarcraft 2 года назад
About 5.2k, both GM
@checkmatenate
@checkmatenate 2 года назад
@@PiGstarcraft 😂😂😂
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