Best parts here are Leo's iconic smug smile towards his brother Jed, Jed saying shut up and Leo's smile suddenly disappears as quick as dust, and Jed saying to Charlie that Zoey is 19 yrs. old and the 82nd Airborne joke. Yeah Aaron Sorkin blessed us with this show.
@@jtframeif someone said to me, the president gives his assistant a knife is a truly emotional moment, I would've thought they were off their rocker! But I saw it before I heard of it and, whoa!!!
I think most people would think that Jed was saying, "Trash it, don't let it affect you." No. He was saying, "Hand it, envelopes and all, to the Secret Service."
Jed: “My hesitation about you going out with Zoe before, you know it’s not because you’re black.” Charlie: “I didn’t think it was.” Jed: “It’s not.” Charlie: “I thought it’s because I’m a guy.” Jed: “It is!”
Probably. He didn't really mind Ellie Bartlet (possibly) being a lesbian, but when it turned out that she was straight and engaged to the "Fruit Fly Guy", that's when Bartlet got irritated.
In a later episode, Charlie tells Leo that he and Zoey were going out. Leo asks if they'll be taking "extra protection". Charlie is shocked and says "Leo!!". Leo replies that he meant Secret Service protection. :)
0:52 "My daughter asked you out?" 0:54 "Yes, sir."0:55 "I should've locked her in the dungeon!" 0:56 "I don't think you've got one." 0:57 "I coulda built one."
I think it's interesting when Leo said "It's okay of you do." Neither he nor Jed believed that. But it lets Jed comfortably examine if there is even a tiny bit of racism in his feelings. And it lets him work on those feelings. Some people are taught racism growing up and they don't even realize it. Giving them a chance to see it and work on removing it is a far better way than attacking and condemning them for it. When you attack, people automatically defend. When you are supportive in this manner, you give them a chance to learn about themselves and grow. No, I don't believe Bartlett had the tiniest bit of racism inside him, but if he had, Leo gave the response that would have helped eliminate it if there had been.
"I don't believe Bartlett had the tiniest bit of racism inside him." He compared himself to Spencer Tracey at the end of "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner." That could be read to imply he had some level of unconscious racism in the past, but learned to overcome it; it would make sense given his background (born in the 1940s, grew up in the very white state of New Hampshire).
@@josephkempton6366 I recently read some article where some person said, "for the most part, legalized discrimination is not tolerated anymore, and now we are at the stage of changing hearts and minds, and that takes much longer"
As an Agnostic in high school, my first love was a full blown, gorgeous, Preachers kid! Parents didn’t like me either! Tried to break it off and she shoved me into a row of lockers and kissed me just like Zoey did to Charlie! Ahh Angela! First loves are awesome!
This was the exact episode where Leo became my favourite character. Also “she’s 19 years old and the 82nd Airborne works for me” is a Top 5 lines in TV history moment.
When I first heard this scene, I thought Jed said "You know what to do with the mayo, right?". It confused me until many years later I was able to see this on youtube and realize that it wasn't mayo, but mail.
LOVE this show and loved that Sheen wanted Bartlet to share his own Catholicism. Kinda surprised that they allowed Bartlet to make the mistake of calling Revelation "Revelations". That's the exact sort of common mistake that Josiah Bartlet would have corrected in others.
2:55. You know what to do with the mail, right? He knows as uncomfortable as his with his 19-year-old daughter dating... being seen with Charlie is going to draw a reaction. For someone he's only know a few months at this point... he's as protective of him as he is of his daughters. As demonstrated by his admission in the 2nd season about calling the FBI, ready to crash a hate group's clubhouse because they publicly tried to lynch Charlie at the end of season 1.
I love that the West Wing handle this topic with grace and dignity and what's your screen name is that despite the fact that it's 2014 and we have an African American in the white House some people will still feel this way it's a damn shame
I bought the entire series online for a slight modest price of $150... pricy but wtf? I get West Wing all I want all the time. Perhaps you should consider such an investment.
I was thinking idly about how if Sidney Poitier had played the President, something Aaron Sorkin had considered, then that version of Zoey would have been black and perhaps if they had a version of Charlie he might have been a white guy. My fancasting was Meagan Good and Sam Huntington.
I think all the children of any presidents of the united states should a have a support group. This is insanely true and I cant imagine living with that threat.
The guys wanted to make a statement. As someone else pointed out in another comment section I read, a low-level White House aide being killed at home or in the streets would be forgotten about very quickly, but if he was killed while standing right beside the President, (and with the President possibly wounded/killed,) nobody would ever forget about it.
A little detail about Zoe's storyline always bugged me... She's 19 years old when first introduced... and about to be a first year college student... Which should have put her at 17 or 18, depending on where in the calendar year her birthday falls... As smart as she is, I'm assuming she never got held back in school when she was younger... Maybe she was one of those kids that got to take a year off after high school to go backpacking through Europe or something before going to college, or maybe spent a year interning or doing volunteer work, but they never explained that.
Also, Sorkin wasn't always great with people's ages. I once did the math on Bartlet, and figured out that despite being a Nobel Prize winning economist, he could only have worked between 4 and 7 years in that field.
95% of American High School graduates are 18 at the time they walk down then aisle in June. But don't forget that a BIG portion of them turn 19 sometime before Christmas their freshman year. I don't know what time of the year this is, but, if she's actually in her freshman year sometime, she's far better odds of being 19 than 18, and the number who are 17 is tiny. And being smart had little to do with when you graduated. There are a whole host of factors that can include having your parents start you later, to NOT deciding to skip due to social maturity issues, etc. Smart kids are pretty much exactly the same age as the average student at graduation.
Erik Trimble She was 17 when she started college because in season 2 episode 19 because she needed a parent to sign a health form because she was under 18. Unless she did the forms really early she was probable 17 or 18 in college
@@trims2u According to a line in an earlier episode when she was introduced, Zoey was already 19 years old and about to start her freshman year of college. They only way that would work is if maybe her parents started her in kindergarten a year late, which is a possibility as you pointed out.
It's a cliche but the writing and awareness is sharp as hell. "I'm Spencer Tracey at the end of Guess Who. . ." FYI: at the beginning of the flick Tracey was racist as hell about his daughter marrying Sidney Poitier.
No he wasn't. He was worried coz this was before marrying across races was legal across the country. He was genuinely worried that his daughter hadn't thought it through. She had just met him a few weeks ago and already agreed to his proposal.