Zombicide (2nd Edition) Review - with Zee Garcia 

I like that the kids are in it myself. It gives agency and relatability to any kids that might play this game. Its generally just a what if scenario having the kids in it.

I don’t mind the kids being included since there would be kids in the middle of this situation. Throughout history kids have been there through major atrocities and had to find a way to survive with or without adult help. The pimp thing feels very video gamey and a little tacky but not a deal breaker. Easily overlooked for me. Good review.

As someone that has owned every Zombicide since the original at some point, my favorite change is the simplest....having the skills printed on the back of the character card means I can finally stop printing out lists of skills to share with people at the table

Zombicide 2.0 was the first Zombicide I've ever played and I have really enjoyed it so far

Would house ruling in player elimination change the balance of the game at all? I'd only implement the rule if everyone playing was okay with it. Sometimes I feel that having a player death result in an instant loss takes away from the "story" of the game if that makes any sense. It's exciting to have 1 or 2 survivors remaining on the brink of defeat with a slight chance of making it out.

zee - the kids thing is actually really requested - think Stranger Things. They started it in Green Horde with a nod to ST, and then in the Invader expansion had a kids set. It is appealing to playing with kids and RPG is really hot right now - kids want representation in games as well. I feel CMON is doing a great job on evening out the heroes to guy/gal ratio and have started to include wheelchair type characters as well as the age representation instead of just the buff soldier archtype

This video is really well made. Looks very professional. Lots of interesting camera angles and just looks good. Great job!

If you really don't like playing with kid survivors, grab an expansion and use survivors from that so you don't have to play with kid survivors

Double barrel Shotguns require a reload..just saying lol

where can I buy this addition I cannot find this online

The pimpmobile etc. and like half the things in this game are literally late 1990/early 2000 culture references.

Thanks Zee!

Is there a way to get Zombicide 1.0 content to this one? Like the Prision and stuff?

Lovely camera angles. It seems a little more coordination between the presenter and the director is still required. Yet I loved it and thanks a lot for that. - And I think Zee was the best to review a game of this caliber. He was into this game (I know he has a special handmade deck of his own for Black Plague- maybe as most of us do). Yet not that much into all the expansions and deep in all other versions that could affect his judgment. I remember what happened after the Reichbusters video, and I think here, he was the perfect guy to do this.

Sweet Haunted Game Cafe hat! I love that place and visit Everytime I'm back home in Fort Collins.

Based on these rules, I'm house ruling Black plague. No more dice rolls to open doors with a melee weapon. I may even treat my "Double Spawn" cards as the "mini rush" Zee was referring too. I don't have enough room or $ to buy and keep all these big box games!!! 😱

Such a good review! My daughter of 8yrs loves the game but only wants to Play with the kids. Guess they work for some but understand ppl have different meanings about that :)

Nice run through, thanks!

They introduce 2 mechanics in the expansions which can be easily integrated into every game, which from my PoV are absolutely necessary and should have been in the core box. All Out dice, where you can trade additional damage potential for the risk of breaking your weapon. a) additional decision making and b) keeps the search action relevant for later in the game. Other thing is day night cycles where darkness and also dark zones help Out hiding from zombies but Impact your ability to attack. They add a ton of tactical decision space to the game. Should really have been in this and I wouldn't play without them.

Can you apply the 2.0 rules to the original editions?

Maybe a house rule of making the last sound token to be the only one? Or maybe to give different noise values to different things?

I like how many more zombies spawn on blue now, and zombie rush mechanic. Night time is also great.

Love the review but you can't tell me kids don't play this game 😂. Kid heroes are clearly made for them and it's definitely a win in my house. Doesn't seem icky to me. The game doesn't take itself that seriously.

Think I'm gonna stick to my Black Plague collection!

I love the Zombie genre, but I’ve never been attracted to this game.

Also I have all the Zombicide, favorite game system 🤓😎

I thought there were certain weapons that need to be reloaded ?

thanks for the review!

Is one of the child survivors Clementine? Anyone know?

19:48 Early death sounds about right. I tried the web scenario Amy Original Story TWICE, twice my game ended in 4 rounds. It took me 3 times as long to setup the game than to actually start rolling some dice and packing up almost immediately after. 🤣

Thanks for the review, Zee! We already own this one, but it's always nice to see what other people think, especially when it's people you respect. So, not Tom ;-) Tossing in my unrequested 2 cents, I don't mind the kids so much. The theme of the game is rather tongue-in-cheek anyway and the kids reflect that in the art style and all that. Besides, there are enough characters in the core set to where you can play without them if you want and still have some adult characters that have the slippery ability. As far as the pimpcrates and pimpmobile stuff goes, color me old school but those terms don't creep me out personally. We used that term regularly "back in the day" to describe something that was enhanced in some cool way. I've never thought of it as creepy or off-putting to people. I totally agree on the time estimate though. We have played a couple of times in smaller, easy-rated scenarios and they took 2.5 hours or more with 2 and 3 players. Still fun, but definitely misleading. Thanks again for the review and have a stellar weekend!

Agree on the Pimp items. Disagree completely about the kid survivors - my daughter was thrilled to play a kid survivor instead of an adult.

great review zee!

30 minutes of Zee, we are blessed

Enjoyed this thoughtful review, Zee!!

Is there a pimp cane?

Did black plague have player elimination? I know green horde doesn't-I added black plague content recently to my Green horde (albeit probably unnecessary), but ultimately, Green Horde still feels like the best of all worlds. One of the most unsung heroes of green horde is the bushes-It sounds minor, but adds a huge tactical element-not to mention tension when a horde is really close, but can't hear you because you actively made someone else visible or noisier further away. There's also the added importance of going through a bush with or without someone on the other side. Each movement seems to matter more, so sometimes you have to push your luck and go through a bush without visibility and risk a zombie popping up and forcing you to waste precious time. Furthermore, the orc zombies are no joke-definitely not just a gentle poke-very easily game ending, but I like that the goblin runners only do 1dmg. Then there is there is the most noticeable additions with the horde and the trebuchet, which I won't go into, but really adds so much to the game. Oh, and finally the Necromancers, whom I feel are way more interesting than the abominations. Ultimately, I still have not played 2.0, but it looks like some good stuff-I'm especially interested in the nightime and flashlight mechanics that come in ZC and Fort Hendrix, although, thematically, I'm not crazy about modern zombies with guns. I can accept fantasy skeleton archers because of the Necromancers and the "Army of Darkness" feel, but both of those expansions have a drawback in terms of (a) I couldn't care less about the president theme and (b) an army base doesn't feel that interesting on top of my feeling for modern zombies with guns-I like to think of modern zombies as more a epidemic, which is why I feel zombies with guns works less thematically. Oh and I've never liked the "pimp-weapon" mechanic or cars on such a small map... And I CANT STAND THAT THEY STILL CALL THEM "Pimp-Whatever"-it just sounds super-lame. Call them "Advanced Equipment", "Modified Cache", "Superior Depository"-or my personal choice-Simply, "Expert Arsenal"....anyways-dumb. Well, hopefully, this is their last zombiecide-I seriously cannot believe people aren't overly saturated with this type of zombie game. Personally, I look forward to a more "Last of us" type of struggling to survive zombie game or maybe just not another full-on zombie game for a while.

when is this releasing?

You said that once one character dies the game is lost, Doesn't it say that once a player is eliminated then its lost, meaning once one player has had all his or her characters killed in the game? Not a single character.

Cool review, although I'd rather kids survived than were just presumed to be zombie food. Also "pimped" still means "make (something) more showy or impressive", doesn't it? Just as "hooker" can mean a rugby player, a large drink or a concealed problem. Words can have more than one meaning, and in the context of Zombicide, "pimp" pretty obviously refers to the 'upgrades' meaning, and nothing at all to do with prostitution.

Can you review and do a how to play for Carnival Zombie, Mall of Horror, City of Horror, Zpocalypse, and the different expansions for Twilight Creations Zombies games?

So, the two flaws mentioned are not flaws to me at all - so that's great!

Well reviewed and I think that I can work out the changes since 1st edition but being reviewed by someone who has played it would have more useful. Kind regards

Nice review as always Zee!!! I didn’t see you you mention they changed the friendly fire rule that made Sam and many of us hate the 1st edition. As for pimp weapons and mobiles, totally agree, call them “uber” or “awesome” while not bringing the whole prostitution imagery into the game. As for the kid survivors, unlike all other Zombicide base games I know, this one comes with 12 survivors (6 adult and 6 children) so you can play without the children if you don’t want to. With Invader, if you hated the civilians or military, you have to play with them if you just have the base game.

Pimping means to improve and/or enhance. The TV show Pimp My Ride. Pimping your game with custom tokens, counters, deck holders is a common thing. Hopefully in the year since this came out Zee has gotten a little more up to speed with this stuff.

yes, finally

What’s wrong with kids with shot guns? I learned to shoot one when I was 10.

Zombiecide Night of the Living Dead completely ditches the whole sound thing. It's basically this game, w/o the sound rules.

Remember that question on various shows and forums of "How many kids could you beat in a fight?" I wonder if there will be zombie kids in future games.

Nice! 😁😁

Zombie Rush ability sounds horrible: The "All 'x' Move" was bad enough. My biggest question was whether they added Concentrated Fire into it (from Invader) but it sounds like they didn't. I hope there are a lot of Molotovs!

Are there any game related mechanics to the kids? Scenerios that require them? Or are they like the pimp stuff. Not used at all.

Graphic says seal of excellence, but you said seal of approval. Also, 8/10 is approval not excellence.

support dice tower link doesn't work.

honestly the kids is what drawing me to this game, I don't care what people say and what excuses the come up to make a big issue out of this, for me this allow me to play the game with my kiddo and this allows my kiddo to pick a character that she feels she can represent her and we can pretend out characters in the game as if they were us.

The kids and use of the word pimp as “pimped out” are probably indications of the fact the designers aren’t American. These may not be perceived the same way in France, so it’s likely a simple cultural difference.

8.0 is exellent?

The 'pimp' stuff seems like a real 'how do you do, fellow kids?' inclusion? Like they were sitting around saying "People say pimp still, right? Like pimp my ride? Ha ha, hilarious! Let's go get rotisserie chicken for lunch'

I have got

Kidsbare always in modern zombie films and series

Black Plague is better hands down!

‘Icky’?

Abomination deck was obvious. They should have done that long ago.

Wrong seal!

Graphic showed Seal of Excellence but rating was 8.0 equal to Seal of Approval.

Zee, Cthulhu Death may die or Zombicide ?

Don’t like kids in a zombie setting? Don’t play the Last of Us

I hate zombies. Is there another theme that uses this same system ?

Would you prefer if there was no child survivors? They all died? In fact, I always questioned since the first game why there weren't any zombie kid... Also, the pimp weapons name is carried from the original game, where the "pimp weapons" where ONLY FOUND in the Pimp mobile. As in "pimp my ride".

That's not a review. That's a how it works

I don't know why you're so sensitive to the kids in the game. If there was an apocalypse you want young and old to try survive. I really don't see the issue. "Oh no there is an apocalypse can you kids die you make me feel uncomfortable" 😂

One hour...No!

Pimp crate = loot crate Pimp Car can just be, hotrod. I agree, "pimp" is just awkward in this game.

Agree with the pimp language, just not necessary.

I can't believe they kept the pimp name in the age of Wokeness

At a price of close to 100EUR, I still don't know if I should buy this. I don't want to pay 45EUR extra because it includes miniatures ...

Iki iki iki. Come on it's a game. You can have children die in a game as long as you don't celebrate the death by any means. As for the pimp name on guns and weapons ... So what? Damn... sensitive people ruin everything right now. Plz not board games also.

Thanks for giving a very 2021 perspective of this game. You are right that this could have been CMON’s chance for a fresh start. It’s too bad most people are still stuck in the past. People are still using the word “pimp” in a cool way or “gay” in a negative way. Things are changing slowly.

I don't know why you are so sensitive about kids being in a zombie game, have you been living under a rock for 10 years? Kids in horror games/TV shows have been a thing for a long time. Kids love zombies and love seeing representation of themselves when they play this game.

Good point about the pimp cards. I do like to "pimp up" my game, but if it refers to sexual exploitation as something cool, it's problematic

having kids in a game yea kinda icky but this is also an industry where there is a boardgame glorifying a serial killer h h holmes