Zombicide 2nd Edition vs Zombicide: Black Plague - Play This, Not That 

Had my first game of black plague last week (thanks to Alex's fervent recommendation of the series). It was a blast we thought we had lost at least 3 times then won in a literal blaze of dragon fire glory. Still not sure if we played everything right but had 30 zombies burn in one turn. Good times.

Wow...the goodold days where I could never have imagined having more than one Zombicide... I'm guessing at this point there are people out there who collect NOT board games BUT Zombicides :D

Zombicide second edition has by far the most different Zombie Types, because all Zombies from first edition modern Zombicide can be used. So it has berserker zombies, toxic zombies, skinner zombies, zombie dogs, zombies crows, seeker zombies and vip zombies.

I recently found your channel. Your videos and the commentary are great! Thank you!

Just want to say that I enjoy watching you! The natural conversation is pleasant yet informative. Keep at it :-)

Great comparisons and reviews. You both are funny, wholesome and entertaining! 😁👍❤️ Thanks for sharing your content. ☺️

Just what I needed to start my day! Thx Alex!

I'd love to see a video of your top 10 kickstarters you've backed! Can be ones you've received or one you believe will be on it one you get it

An easy way to vary the game and make it more difficult is to randomly pick a few daily rule sets and assign them to specific poses. Print out your own cards with the rules. Lay the cards you selected out and put a zombie on the card as a reminder which pose uses this rule. (Much easier if you paint your minis or at a minimum the base sides to differentiate them easier.) If you sleeve the cards you can always add Deadeye and wolves in.

We love Black Plague and I have 2Ed waiting for us to start it, but was also considering picking up more ZBP content. This video is right on time

Wow you guys have really fantastic chemistry on screen

Did you get the upgrade kit for 2e? Add some toxic and berserker zombies and all your issues are solved.

all of them are practically the same. it's nuanced but Zombicide 2nd edition with the kickstarter card pack allows you to pull in : vip, skinner, toxic, berzerker, dogz, crowz, and civilian escorts. alongside kids/adults/zombivore hero types and the two Teenage Mutant Nija Turtle hero packs. zombicide 2nd: 25 missions in the core, 2 campaigns with 10 missions vs BP: 10 missions in base, 10 per expansion no campaigns. 2nd edition lets you open doors without rolling dice, but requires a door opening weapon in hand. this is a hugggggge improvement to game flow (undead and alive removes doors) 2nd edition day/night mechanics are huge new improvements that can be added into any game. 2nd edition: only spawning rooms in dark spots is huge in reducing set up time vs spawning in every spot in a room in BP (this get's even less in undead in alive by creating room spawn points). 2nd edition: getting a hit penalty in the dark is a lot of fun and a carry over from darkside, its optional, but it's a must play and makes melee weapons more unique as they don't suffer darkness penalties. Bp: it has a catapult and a trebuchet ZC: it has a tank So overall 100% would recommend zombicide 2nd edition as a kickstarter with the conversion cards over a black plague kickstarter set just for variability, and if you were just going to grab one core and one expansion, zombicide 2nd edition with the Washington z.c. campaign is a nuts amount of content and is starting to make zombicide an actual game and less of a party style dice rolly activity with no interesting meat on it.

Zombicide was my entry to hobbyist games! I’ll always have a soft spot for it. Thanks for the content! :D

And between balck plague vs green horde? Which one would be your pick? Thanks for your great videos!!

You guys are so great together! What a wonderful pair!

Since adding zombie wolves and archers my gaming group is struggling with black plague for sure, but we can still win if we're on point for every turn!

Hey Alex, as someone who has recently got into Black Plague (due in no small part to your enthusiasm) I'm wondering, generally, what the makeup of your equipment and spawn decks look like. Do you like to keep BP and GH mostly separate? Do you like to integrate a certain number of extra zombie types? Just asking because if you were to just slam all the Fantasy Zombicide stuff together you'd have a bloated tower of cards lol.

Love to hear about CDMD Season 2 I see sitting there behind you...

This was great! We current have ZBP with the wolves expansion. What other content would you recommend to add? Also, I wasn’t part of the KS campaign so I don’t have any special zombies or miniatures. Any ones standout to you?

Grey... so much grey... soul crushing grey

Random question: In a previous video you mentioned you liked Ausonia. I'm thinking of buying it -- can you expand on what you liked about it? Thanks and love the channel!

If you got the upgrade for Z2 you can bring in berserker, toxic, seeker, and skinner zombies along with zombie dogs and companions from the Z1 editions.

Damn this got uploaded a week too late. Been deliberating between the two for a few weeks and eventually pulled the plug on Second Edition last week. Already played a whole bunch of just core and enjoying it a lot. Can’t wait to crack open the campaign boxes.

As a father of three girls, I enjoy these videos most! My oldest is slowly falling in love with the hobby, right now her favorite game is Hot Zone.

This is exactly the video I needed since i was thinking if I should invest in new edition or start with Black Plague. Thank you very much!

About the zombie variety, you can go after the boxes from the first edition and use those zombies in the second (they released cards to utilize then in the new edition). There are berserker zombies in Prison outbreak. Toxic zombies in Toxic mall. Skinner zombies in Rue Morgue. Seeker zombies in Angry Neighbours. And a box for zombie dogs and zombie crows. Also, the berserker and toxic have isolated boxes with just then if you don't want to buy an entire game box just for then, althou I'd say the boxes are worth it, specially if you like to create custom missions like I do hehe 3 sugestions I'd implement to make the game harder (besides removing the hability to keep weapons between missions as you already did that): 1 - Make spawns on ALL building rooms, not only the dark ones. 2 - Survirvors can't search in dark zones. 3 - Don't put the pimp weapons crates in every building. Choose ONE or TWO to put then in. PS: I'm really excited to play the campaing! I can't wait for my copy to arrive!

New to zombicide, was made aware by the marvel zombies upcoming. I want a more traditional set, I think I wanted 2nd edition to come out on top, I do love the fantasy setting but was hoping in a way the newer version might come out on top I’m so conflicted in what to buy! … would you recommend Black Plague with the expansions including green horde or just the wolves, ghosts and friends expansions (forget the actual names now)

So I am new to zombiecide, and I am new to your videos, but I have a question about the models, are they paint ready or do they need to be primed before painting?

Love the geeking out to that giant dragon.

thanks for the review. I'm curious does expansions like Washington ZC add more fun to the core box. Also, isn't there many other Zombicide expansions out there that are compatible with 1st edition? Which I wonder means also works with 2nd edition? Would those expansion help solve the lack of variety issue you mentioned? For context, I have never played any version of zombicide before, I just ordered a copy of the 2nd Edition (can only get the core box). I figure I could get some expansions later.. if they are compatible.

I like that zombiecied 2nd Edition has the plastic tray for your character and equipment cards

Which expansions would you recommend for black plague?

what's the best expansion for zombicide black plague core box ?

For me if you are only buying a base box get which ever theme you like. When you factor in expansions then Black Plague by far. The catch is the price you're going to have to pay to get all of that extra content.

Is vanilla Zombicide much different from Black Plague and 2nd Ed.? Completely new to Zombicide

Hey, I also make Black Plague harder! I haven't played any of the other Zombicide games, but I love that one.

I can't get enough Zombicide! Got into it & CMON with Invaders and became addicted ever since. Been heavily playing 2nd Edition and I love the game, the Survivors and stretch Goal Zombies and the optional buy of Urban Legends Abomination pack. I've Late Pledged Zombicide Undead or Alive at the Base Pledge and intend to get the 2 Abomination pack Optional Buys. I wasn't too impressed with their Expansions for Undead of Alive like I was with Invader's Black Ops & Dark Side and 2nd Edition's Washington ZC & Fort Hendrix Expansions. I'm really curious to see what CMON will do with Zombicide going forward. I know I'm a dork but I'd love something to get us Zombie Dinosaurs xD maybe do something akin to Jurassic Park with a Genetics/Sad Science angle. Edit: as an aside, I know we all have our own tastes and opinions but I think it's harsh to say the Wild West setting is "dumb". Lot of fun use of such a theme and setting. Red Dead Redemption 1 had a Zombie dlc bit that was well beloved. I dunno I'm up for many different settings and themes for Zombicide. Invaders is my favorite setting with ties to Warhammer, Aliens, Dune, and games like Dead Space etc. The original 3 Seasons of Zombicide are the only ones I wasn't taken to. Black Plague looks OK at best for me. Green Horde is the only Zombicide before Invaders that I would want and nearly got with CMON's Time Travel Kickstarter

Great comparison, I have yet to play a Zombicide game even though I own the 2nd edition of modern. From what I've seen I love everything about this franchise, but the more I look at Black Plague, Green Horde, etc. the more I lose interest in playing the modern version. It just doesn't seem to appeal to me anymore, from the artwork on the box to the game itself. I'm thinking about selling it and getting BP, for starters. If you find the time please let me know if I'm on the seemingly right track 😄.

Thanks for the video, great stuff! I'm surprised you compared 2nd Edition against Black Plague WITH ALL EXPANSIONS only. Kind of unfair? Would have been interesting to hear base game vs base game.

I have everything from zc besides Green horde. Skipped it because of the lame Trebuchet thing.. I am sooo in love with the new campaign modes in zc2, adding soo much more depth with the all-out plus the campaign progress. The thing i really miss in Zc2 is the focus fire from Invader. This was absolutely awesome. No more kiting abominations.. Sadly the removed it. Overall we think Zc2 is the best game of the whole Franchise. Great vids!! Thx!

Can't have cars in a medieval setting? Have you not seen (Sam Raimi's) Army of Darkness?

Great compare! I did never get the "real" zombie feel from Black Plague, to me it is as any other dudgeon crawler with freaky monsters. It need to be closer to the traditional theme, more like The Walking dead. It´s not about taking out different kind of monsters but about the story, planning, resources and tactics around traditional Zombies. Its however clear with Night of the Living Dead: A Zombicide Game that this is not easy to get right.

Do u randomize characters when playing a new game? I found the set up to be a little slow for Zombiecide and the game was far too easy to build characters or farm and then just demolish the map. The game is also very solitaire-esque where there's just the best move so you don't need real teammates and can just use ai or dummies allies. The scenarios are cool. I think if you paint the Minis it could feel a little more epic it's very similar albeit an easier version of hero quest without the leveling system.

I like Shira! I wish I had someone that passionate about the games I like in my life haha You guys definitely have to make more videos together :)

They said Massive Darkness 2 was built as campaign first then developed the 1 off scenerios. Its a ton of plastic coming and I wanna keep!

Your accurate as far as price wise on the original pledge comparisons, however, for someone that missed both campaigns. Trying to get the complete Black Plague ends up being way way more expensive due to how long it has been out and generally more liked. I find second edition easier to find since it is more recent and people are just getting their pledges, therefore more people willing to part with their copies. Overall, price wise, if I wanted the complete Black Plague, I would pay a hefty price trying to piecemeal all of the kickstarter extras that were involved. Also, if we are just talking base retail boxes... that isn't really Zombicide. The KS extras are where it's at.

Also, I'm curious. How many games/sessions of Zombicide do you play in a month or just overall?

If you did not have black plague expansions or Kickstarter exclusives which base game did you guys like better?

Can you do a Massive Darkness vs Zombicide play this not that episode ?

Hello, The day & Night time, the break weapon thing is only in the extension , does it ?

Black Plague is pretty much unobtainable on Polish market whereas Green Horde is very common and not that expensive. Are there any huge advantages of Black over Green that make the latter not worth it?

Guitar earrings look cool :)

Zombicide Black Plague is also cross compatible with Massive Darkness 1 + 2 (and vice versa) So 4 full kickstarters plus extras

Can u make a video about teburu? It's been 2 years since they talked about it

I'm trying to get all the parts of Black Plague, but it's not easy to find all these older components.

I love how Alex makes Black Plague harder, it makes it funner lol

Man, I was just today thinking if I should buy 2nd edition looking at a little bit of dust on my Black Plague .......... ;)

To be fair. 2nd Ed just launched and Black Plague has tons of addons that increase variety. 1st Ed hat tons of zombie variations too: toxic, berserker, seekers, birds, dogs, skinners... and all of those can be used in 2nd Ed too of you got the Zombies and Companions Upgrade Kit. Just saying :)

If and when I buy my first Zombicide game, it will be Black Plague because of the theme :)

Are your Kallax shelves 4 tier or it that 5 tier with a weird forced perspective?

Shira I need to borrow you for a little bit to play my zombicide collection!!! I like your style!!! Game on.

Modern day (twice), Medieval Fantasy, Space, Old West, Night of the Living Dead... So what's next? Here's some ideas, and one of these would make ridiculous amounts of money: Zombicide: World War 2 Zombicide: Cthulhu Zombicide: Cyberpunk Zombicide: Dinosaurs Zombicide: Feudal Japan Zombicide: Pirates Zombicide: Marvel Zombies (Cha-ching! Printing money)

If I was going to get ONE zombicide, no extra content, which one would you recommend?

I know I missed something along the way but Shira is your sister, isn't she? I figure that red hair is probably not a coincidence. She's awesomely fun and I love watching her and Rina interact together, so great!!

Do Black Plague vs Invaders, please!

I picked up a copy of zombicide 2nd edition off of ebay and I love it! and I have black plague as well. and im waiting on western zombicide.....I blame you Alex. lol

I missed 2D and I think I've come to terms with it at this point. I don't really want it anymore. There was some serious FOMO initially but after going through my game collection and backlog of games I'm waiting on, I feel better. Content like this is just icing on the cake that reaffirms it for me, as I already have over 90% of all the Zombicide BP + GH content(I'm missing 3 guest boxes), I have all of Zombicide Invader(which I genuinely enjoy and don't see why you don't like it still, which isn't the same as disliking it.) and I have the OG Zombicide Season 1, 2 and too many expansion and I don't play the Modern day one at all. Everybody I play with is more into the Fantasy theme and occasional SciFi theme. The Wild West Theme will be a neat way to mix it up too.

I think CMON needs to add a cross-over pack for all themes to be used together.

Wild west is such a good zombicide 🥰 would love more zombie variation for 2nd edition

Their houses foundation is built upon Zombicide board games!

I love the energi you have

Alright I'm at 1:07 and I'm going to make a prediction that Alex let's his love of the theme for black plague win out over everything else. I'm hoping to hear about game changes and which system is better etc also so let us see... hopefully Shira can keep this thing on the rails.

Still waiting for pirate zombicide. I'll be all over that. 😆

I wanna come for a games night!

I like the old zombicide 1st edition art better than 2nd edition. I use 1:43 cars I bought.

This is EXACTLY the video that I wanted. I'm stupid and didn't back 2nd edition and I'm still kicking myself. I really want to know if it's worth getting when I already have Invader and Black Plague. Thank you Alex and Shira!

ONLY have played Black Plague. I bought 2.0 blindly this week. And now this video pops up! Serendipity!

So will there be a Black Plague 2nd edition?

Hopefully there will be a new standalone expansion for second edition to help variety.

I sold off Green Horde as the gameplay just felt very slow and fiddly with the hedge mechanics and catapult. But I have to say I kept No Rest for the WIcked & Friends & Foes Plus the Horde Box to max out the missions in the other three books of missions. My favourite enemy type has to be the ghosts, and exploding zombies really bumping the value of magic wielders, I feel that the moderncide V2 may benefit from similar enemy types, perhaps bulletproof vests, exploding zombies TBH I have yet to play it as I like to paint up my Core Box before getting it to the table.

fun format.

Alex at one point your refer to Black Plague as the original. Lol. Zombicide had had 3 seasons out Moderncide before they released Black Plague. I am sure you already know that however. If you want zombie differences then you can use the toxic zombies, skinners zombies, crowz, and dogs(original werewolves). I think BP was very ambitious and it certainly became a fan favorite. I too, even during the campaign was hoping for a little bit more in the core box of 2nd hoping they had leaned more less from some of the successes of BP. But they kept the rules very similar and “improved” things that didn’t need to improved. I strongly wish objective and crates were printed on the board and I prefer to just randomly set up boards. Double amount of zombies spawning from half the spawn points is effectively the same amount of work... but they acted like that was an amazing revolution lol. I wish they just made 2nd edition a little more interesting from the start because I too slightly prefer modern over fantasy. Wild West Zombicide... yeah I agree a total snooze fest. Easy pass for me. I don’t feel it’s necessary to have more than 2 zombicide themes in my collection. The space one I strongly thought about but again I already had so much I didn’t feel like I needed to jump on it. And the character art I was less of a fan too in that one.

Wait, do you have the TMNT survivors? :D

I'm curious if 2nd Edition will have a Season 2 and Season 3 like 1st Edition had.

But you have the updated cards to use all of the old Zombie Type expansions (dogs, crows, toxic and so on....). So tons of variety there....

The event deck is genius!

No overlapping artists between Black Plague and Second Edition.

thanks for the video😁 I love zombicide franchise so much Especially Invader/dark side most love mold, oxygen and remote control bots/turrets, even class system of invader series though👍

2nd Edition is compatible with all previous Modern ones. So if you miss Zombie variaty, you definitely should look into the old Modern with the Berserkers, Toxic etc. There are plenty!

That dragon looks awesome. I might have to look into Black Plague now. I backed and looking forward to Undead or Alive. It will be my first introduction to Zombicide. Shira, please give Undead or Alive a chance. It has Sheriff Mittens and Calvin!!!

Agreed 100% on metal dice. They sound cool, literally and figuratively, but they are wholly impractical.

I think zombicide 2.0 now has many varieties. Toxic, Berserkers, Skinners, Seekers, Dogs, and Crows. But maybe this video is uploaded before those varieties came

16:45 Woow... okay, now i understand why she doesn't like Black Plague as much. Real talk now dude, you really need to calm down with those extra monsters. Loosing sux. Play only the base game with her, win, and hear what she has to say after that.

How does Zombicide compare to Last Night on Earth?

When I saw Hate in the background I immediately got sad because there is no way of buying it anymore without selling at least 1 kidney.

1st edition got that variety, they havent release the reworked expansions for 2nd ed

I plan on buying Zombicide as my girlfriend loves smashing brains in.

Hmm, I wonder how 2e shapes up now.

One thing that is not clear, comparing only the base games which one is better, sadly for me getting a game with all the expansion is pretty tough for shipping and availability reasons