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Zone of the Enders Retrospective (Part 2) - M∀RS 

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In the last video I talked about the first game in the Zone of the Enders series. Now we’re getting to its sequel, The 2nd Runner, specifically its 2018 remaster for PS4 and Steam. It’s an even better version of one of my favourite games and this video is dedicated to exploring why. Ken is best grill btw
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@ecchidragon8038
@ecchidragon8038 5 лет назад
I think that Dingo balked at A.D.A. self-destructing because he was tied to the frame at the time. He got the impression that she would blow up with _him still in it_ , something he's understandibly reluctant about. No emotional ties to the A.I. at that point - Those come later :) ... And I also loved Ken Marinaris
@SnicketySlice
@SnicketySlice 5 лет назад
I'm not so sure about that. At no point did he imply he only cared about his own saftety. He made it all about her and how she can't just throw her life away like that. Someone in the comments also said that this is because Dingo was also left for dead and used as a pawn by Nohman so he relates, but still I dunno why he'd come to see so much humanity in a machine that fast.
@BobExcalibur
@BobExcalibur 5 лет назад
Dingo's revulsion at the necessity of allowing ADA to die is because of his history. He associates the sacrifice of one's comrades with Nohman orchestrating the deaths of his entire unit, and nearly Dingo himself. Thus he point blank rejects the notion in the strongest terms. He doesn't explicitly spell it out, but its all there in his motives.
@SnicketySlice
@SnicketySlice 5 лет назад
Good point.
@creeperwithstyle
@creeperwithstyle 5 лет назад
I just thought that he didn't wanna die himself, since he was stuck inside Jehuty
@SunnyDLux
@SunnyDLux 3 года назад
@@creeperwithstyle that's what I was thinking lol
@UAGoWSuplexer
@UAGoWSuplexer 3 года назад
@@creeperwithstyle Yeah this is probably the reason, the look on his face aggressive nervous because he may die
@supremeworld87
@supremeworld87 Год назад
@@creeperwithstyle that's not it. Dingo is not self-serving, he was once incredibly popular and loved by his comrades in BAHRAM and only has this gruff exterior in ZOE2 due to intense survivors guilt that he wasn't able to save his men after they were all sold out by Nohman. This directly applies to the situation with ADA, he wasn't able to save his men but he's not going to allow his newest comrade - ADA - to meet the same fate, he values life after qhat he's experienced
@celticspear
@celticspear 5 лет назад
Dingo didn't want Ada to self destruct and freaked out the way he did when he found out about this directive was because at that moment he was kept alive by Jehuty and couldn't live without it which means that if it self destructs Dingo would blow the fuck up along with it. Edit: The fist of Mars is a wonderful game and doesn't deserve to be so underrated and unknown.
@GoodLosertjo
@GoodLosertjo 4 года назад
16:06 I think it makes sense why Dingo would go on a rant though wasnt it at that point in the story that his life was tied to ADA because Ken and co hooked him to Jehuty thus meaning that when ADA has to self destruct on Aumaan subsequently Dingo would also be dying which he didnt know at the time cause it wasnt until just then that Leo told him Jehuty is on a mission to self destruct. I don't think it's a hard stretch for a war solider to care for the safety of their own well-being, I can't recall other moments where Dingo was looking out for ADA either so...
@SnicketySlice
@SnicketySlice 4 года назад
He's clearly not worrying about his own well being in that scene though. He's worrying about ADA's well being. Do you think he went on that rant about how life is precious to ADA just to save his own skin? He obviously meant it.
@GoodLosertjo
@GoodLosertjo 4 года назад
@@SnicketySlice Rewatching the scene Dingo's reaction at least to me definitely seems like that of someone looking out for themselves as well as the reaction "oh shit no one told me this machine was to self destruct" Leo: you're worried as if it concerns you... Dingo: well it does the only time in that scene he really shows care for ADA is his solution of getting rid of Aumaan in a way that doesnt result in Jehuty self destruction which he ends with saying "You should take time to think about the meaning of you existence later" which while he expresses worry with ADA's view on life he doesnt go on a full rant on how life is precious. A majority of that scene is him over-reacting cause he's physically a part of Jehuty, he can't leave it cause if he does he dies and if it ceases to work he dies so it makes sense to me he'd react that way especially cause he didn't know ADA's true intention to stop Aumaan
@GumshoeGamer
@GumshoeGamer 5 лет назад
Love this game to death. Finally getting to play it thanks to the MARS ver was just so awesome. Part of me wants to have a ZOE 3 but I think they would mess it up even more
@0ctopusComp1etely
@0ctopusComp1etely 4 года назад
I distinctly remember the game being very good up until the Vic Viper boss fight. Then it became fantastic from that point on. Leo taught me to actually make use of the sub-weapons, because they were actually incredibly useful in this game. He taught me by breaking my teeth on the ground over and over, brutally making sure I knew how to actually PLAY the game instead of just mashing attack like the first game. All the while to that fantastic soundtrack. Wonderful memories.
@bucket9486
@bucket9486 3 года назад
God, I love this game. The boss battles are so great too. Found some new appreciation for them on my recent playthrough. The second half of the Inhert fight's literally just a fucking rhythm battle and it's amazing. Halbert best sub weapon. Next to Zero Shift, of course. i need more ken in my life, ANYWAYS, great video!
@Zubatticus
@Zubatticus 5 лет назад
This game's combat looks pretty fun! I also approve of Ken's design. Her VA also has a 90s feel to it (which might be why you like it.)
@SnicketySlice
@SnicketySlice 5 лет назад
That's a good point actually I didn't think of that.
@EndlessYASA
@EndlessYASA 4 года назад
Also I thought dingo was upset about ada's self destruct because he's dependent on her for life. He was also told to fight in her till the war is over. I thought he was upset because he doesn't want to blow up too. That's what made it believable for me. Rough and tough military guy doesn't want to die because of some program. Just my thoughts. Makes me wish I had a ps4 for the best version. Thanks for the video!
@titanemp
@titanemp 4 года назад
I love ken ❤️, also sal v who. (I completely forgot that girl existed Also I felt the cutscenes done in 2d had some charm to me that make me want more zone of enders games. Also I started ZOE with the Game boy advanced game when I was in school
@chrisfratz
@chrisfratz 5 лет назад
Also, fun fact: the opening movie for the game can be found in the Dolby access app for Xbox one as a demo for Dolby Atmos for headphones, even though the game isn't available on the Xbox one. Oops
@Zhavyne
@Zhavyne 2 года назад
I remember finding out about this series and immediately grabbing it on the PS3 version; I didn't have online at the time and had to play it without the patch (eventually did get the patch and it was so much better), but oh man did I play the crap out of it - Second Runner's easily one of my favorites games in general. I got VR within the last few years and was STOKED to find out that it was also on PC AND with VR support; it takes some getting used to, but I LOVE it in VR; I always remember imagining how it would look to pilot an Orbital Frame, so it was quite cool to actually be able to do so. Having played it to death on the PS3, the change of perspective and play of VR is a great new way to experience the game. Such an unexpected addition, too; no clue why they did it, but I am glad they did - not enough "meaty" VR games, so I will take official VR-ified non-VR games like this and (modded) Skyrim anytime it happens instead of having to fake it with something like Vorpx.
@Slash-is3yu
@Slash-is3yu 3 года назад
Do a full time line of this game
@coblamoration1102
@coblamoration1102 3 года назад
Loved that you went over both PS2 games. I've loved this series since it's inception and it's probably my favorite IP. That said, stop hating on the Vic Viper!! Lol It might not be the OG Vic Viper but the Vic Viper has WAAAAAYYYY more impressive feats than Jehuty. Despite my love of both 😁
@DylantheKnightOwl
@DylantheKnightOwl 5 лет назад
Oh yeah, and Ken is awesome! I think I like her a lot because she gives me an Asuka from Eva vibe, which is exactly the type of character I just can't help but love lol.
@SnicketySlice
@SnicketySlice 5 лет назад
You're right, she totally is like Asuka. I really like her too! Damn they played us good.
@DylantheKnightOwl
@DylantheKnightOwl 5 лет назад
Awesome video as always. Gotta agree with pretty much everything yea said, 2nd Runner, is awesome! I actually need to get the ps4 version soon, its been a fair bit since last I played it.
@alexandercrowell5111
@alexandercrowell5111 2 года назад
17:00 No no wait!!! The old man Lloyd.... " ....of these bodies is the same, just like twins..." "That depends on the skill of the runner..."
@webfox100
@webfox100 5 лет назад
I care about the GBA game. I still have a Nintendo Power magazine with a bit of a guide for the game in it just in case I happen to find a working copy at one of the local stores. Load up that Gameboy Player.
@SnicketySlice
@SnicketySlice 5 лет назад
I'll play it at some point and maybe do a part 3 review.
@webfox100
@webfox100 5 лет назад
@@SnicketySlice You are the master of your channel. I'm just giving my 2 cents. I really need to play Zone 2 some time and watch the rest of the anime. Thank for the warning about the PS3 and Xbox360 versions. Good video, makes me want to hunt the game down than just find it now.
@surrealistidealist
@surrealistidealist 2 года назад
A Z.O.E.3 for PS5 would be potentially amazing. What a tragedy that it would likely never reach that potential given the awful direction Konami has taken.
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 4 года назад
I wish Konami could re release these games on switch.
@Samm815
@Samm815 5 лет назад
I still recommend the anime by sunrise.
@SnicketySlice
@SnicketySlice 5 лет назад
I've actually never seen it but I really enjoyed the OVA.
@fairycrumbs75
@fairycrumbs75 5 лет назад
"The Fist of M-- Nobody cares about that game!" Had me rolling, great video as usual, can't wait for more. 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
@coblamoration1102
@coblamoration1102 3 года назад
BUT IT HAD THE MOST CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT AND WORLD BUILDING OF THE WHOLE SERIES!!! 😭😭😭
@noop9k
@noop9k 2 года назад
Completed it, was decent.
@lawrencecummings8534
@lawrencecummings8534 2 года назад
Dingo was bugging about ADA killing herself because if Jehuty dies, he dies.
@Yup712
@Yup712 2 года назад
Watching this video I had a thought: Imagine a Platinum Games developed mecha spectacle fighter? It might end up really good!
@SnicketySlice
@SnicketySlice 2 года назад
They did do a Transformers game so that kind of counts.
@EndlessYASA
@EndlessYASA 4 года назад
Ken is amazing! Best character in this game aside from ada!
@ZapWires
@ZapWires 5 лет назад
First to get blue shelled
@bean5022
@bean5022 Год назад
she's alive.....
@keithmitchell5708
@keithmitchell5708 4 года назад
Wish there was a ZOE anime series so I can see Kim a lot better
@azurekite6547
@azurekite6547 4 года назад
There is an anime, it's called zone of the enders Dolores i and there is a movie who act as a prequel which is called zone of the enders Idolo.
@killclair4594
@killclair4594 11 месяцев назад
The first game is a little better because of its versus move. The two fames are both so perfectly balanced. The other verse move wasn’t balanced. It felt incomplete. I get that guy’s opinion. He plays fighting games.
@basedfilthyman5915
@basedfilthyman5915 5 лет назад
Oh shit
@outcaster141
@outcaster141 2 года назад
Going back
@SnicketySlice
@SnicketySlice 2 года назад
to what?
@thetruewisegamer
@thetruewisegamer 3 года назад
32:28 but i do........i do.
@CaseNumber00
@CaseNumber00 2 года назад
Bummed my copy of the games arent rare.
@VikingVern7
@VikingVern7 Год назад
Where did all the animations at the end of this video come from?
@SnicketySlice
@SnicketySlice Год назад
The opening to the HD collection.
@VikingVern7
@VikingVern7 Год назад
@@SnicketySlice thanks sir
@hemangchauhan2864
@hemangchauhan2864 4 года назад
I've heard the Steam version is bugged as hell
@SnicketySlice
@SnicketySlice 4 года назад
Is it really? In what way?
@hemangchauhan2864
@hemangchauhan2864 4 года назад
@@SnicketySlice Most reviews say it that way
@SnicketySlice
@SnicketySlice 4 года назад
I can't remember if I said in this video but I'm playing the PS4 version so yeah I wouldn't know about any issues with the steam version.
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