Alex here, welcome to kitesurf college and wing foil college. For business inquiries email kitesurfco@gmail.com I recommend using these playlists when learning to kitesurf or wingfoil so that you don't miss important steps. Kiter's playlist: ru-vid.com/group/PL41dAinz_9ZeaG5FJ_XU8vyBAE_HL_Cgl Winger's playlist: ru-vid.com/group/PL41dAinz_9ZffUYrzT9c6MiZC0PEX41go Memberships info (members can access extra tutorials): ru-vid.com/show-UC2AvhQhxmgRpM32IYE5qkOAjoin Member's kiting playlist: ru-vid.com/group/PL41dAinz_9ZeASzs1laWI8Vlr8RB-mwOj Member's winging playlist: ru-vid.com/group/PL41dAinz_9ZdbKkKBx8iJXwzV6QaQ8t-o
Ok I skydive and it's great but would love to try this but it looks very technical even for rookies but the allure of being able to do this when the winds are stronger might just convince me to start .
Gold video again, thx 😊 Note us mortals interldiate or beginner kiters. It takes time on the water in various conditions to fully appreciate that content. What we need to do is be conscious of what we are trying to achieve and try to deeply understand the kites behavior. Like dont rush and go jumping... think a bit more 🤔
Nice video. BUT : shorten the center lines automatically makes the AoA less . But when you shorten the steering lines it is not the same …. That’s also an issue because I doubt the click bar works as the normal trust bar . Duotone of course ☝️☝️🤔🤔🤔
Your last piece on how a kite that backstalls in light wind should be trimmed is a bit nuanced though, isn’t it? A kite that’s backstalling out of the sky at 12 o clock with no steering input would still hurt from being trimmed, wouldn’t it? Trimming a kite in light wind will definitely help keep it from stalling if too much bar pressure is applied while steering, but it seems to me that you shouldn’t always trim in light wind. But if I’m wrong, please correct me!
Hi, from what you've written it seems maybe there's a misunderstanding about the difference between frontstalls and backstalls in kiting. You say "A kite that’s backstalling out of the sky at 12 o clock with no steering input." If a kite is stalling with no steering tension then that's almost certainly a front stall not a backstall. If the kite is backstalling that's generally caused by the application of too much steering tension. Then holding the bar out further or trimming for depower can help. A front stall on the other hand can be prevented with steering tension, or steering etc. Both backstalling and frontstalling are covered in far more detail in the kitesurf playlist: ru-vid.com/group/PL41dAinz_9ZeaG5FJ_XU8vyBAE_HL_Cgl&si=A5q2y-RSOq1iiTTi
Thanks for this video! Have been waiting for such detailed guidance. I experienced that most kite trainers have either not the knowledge or ability to articulate themselves to explain the trim setup. Again BIG THANKS
I'm not sure what bar you have but with newer bars you can generally use the default connection knots, and then get the trim correct with your trim system. You can save your attachment knot changes for if you notice a problem (for example when the steering lines end up shorter than the center lines over time, then you can even them out using knots).. There's more about that here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IA5Z9tsdR7I.html Some older bar had only minimal trim range, and then the different knots really did help adjust trim for different conditions, but that's not the case anymore.
Tried to trim my pubes while watching this, but a gust of wind blew some of them into my mouth and eyes. Great video though, as always, keep up the awesome content!! Oh, yeah, by the way, here's a rocket ship (_)_)::::::::::::::D~~~
Very good explanation and illustration. You are one of the best kite channels around. A point worth noting (I think): if you find yourself overpowered on your kite and use a lot of de-power from your bar, the kite can become difficult to control due to lack of steering line tension. Head for the beach and rig a smaller kite if you have one.
Thanks for sharing the Stephen. Absolutely, depowering will not help much at all if the wind's too strong for your kite. I remember in the past with smaller kites in really strong wind, that depowering could make them uncontrollable. This has aspect of kite design has definitely improved a lot in recent years.
Not really true ….i know and see a lot of kite pros ,kiting with fully depower . Not only because of too much wind. They say the depower strap is also an adjustment strap
Nicely explained. It's gotten a little more complicated for beginners, now that some bars have steering line trim, instead of center line trim. I'm glad you included the issues with too much depower yielding slack steering lines, and too little encouraging stalling in light wind.
I’ve got the Slingshot Joystick for foiling since that’s about all I ever do anymore. Similar to the BRM cloud bar, there’s no trim at all. Good explanation though.
Thanks for sharing. That's the first I've heard of that trimless bar. Are there some knots you can adjust in case you're not quite happy with the trim and bar position etc?
@kitesurfcollege One can still adjust with the knots at the kite end. Slingshot has three positions, each about 1" apart, to shorten the center or steering lines.
Thanks for your great tutorials! Do yout have experience with different thickness of masts. Does a thicker mast cause more drag and reduce speed or do you see no real difference there? Nowhere I could find a sufficient discussion about this. Thanks. Bernhard
Hi Bernhard. I just use the standard fanatic and duotone masts and a several others in the past but haven't experimented with mast widths. I've never had issues with feeling too much drag from any of my foil masts (I only really notice big drag and speed limit changes when using large front wings made for beginners or light wind). If I were into racing or speed records however I bet it would be extremely important. I know when the masts are thinner you get wobble/vibration, and of course a higher chance of snapping the mast with heavier riders or when jumping etc.
I gave up hooked harnesses years ago after coming unhooked as a newbie several time in one session while in La Ventana. I switched to a rope slider after that since I couldn't see any reason why I'd want to get unhooked from the kite (wasn't interested, and too old, for tricks). Now that I'm mostly foiling, the rope slider is almost everyones go-to. I've had a couple situations where lines get tangled after a crash, but mostly it's been when the foil goes through the lines and the kite loops from there. I'm usually way out in the water getting dragged around, but counter steering till I can figure out the foil issues has done the trick for me. A great video, thanks!
Another perfect video by kitesurf college. Thanks for all the hard work making this. I'm thinking of making a video on how to save swimmers from drowning while kiting how to recognize it steps to take etc. Just another idea as if you didn't have enough. I've saved a few people over the years.
Thanks for this video! Usually when getting a gust I was speeding up so much that I had to let go of the bar completely, witch eventually almost always led to a fall. I will give these tips a try, especially the downwind trick. Thanks!
Really good video thank you. Is it a good idea to practice riding in strong gust by powering up your kite to the point it is overpowered and trying out your tips?
Hi. I haven't really experimented with that. But perhaps a good options could be to try holding the bar in about half way once riding and then see if you can slow down using your board by increasing drag as shown in the tutorial. I think that could be a good test. Plus you can always then let out the bar if you can't slow down.
Nice and informative video, as usual. The only thing missing, in my opinion, is the usefulness of doing loops in lulls to avoid the fall of the kite (I find that move extremely helpful).
Hi Jorge. That's a really good tip. Loops can save the kite in even less wind than steering back and forth. I did have that advice in my first draft of this tutorial. But then I cut it out as it was already covered in my light wind video - plus I felt this tutorial was getting a bit too long. I'm glad you've added it in the comment. Cheers.
There's more info on front stalls, light wind and assessing wind in these tutorials: Assessing wind: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PGvR_fzbzDs.html Front stalls: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RoU5hJlStFI.html Light wind: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YwuQgEsKKa0.html