Pray for confirmation of the truth only works for someone who is keeping all the commandments and striving to have faith in the Prophets. I'm afraid that too many pray and get their answers from the wrong source.
@@Andy-wo9bm No. I meant to say exactly what I said, which was exactly my point that you are missing. See D&C 1:14, 38-39. Too many people think they have faith in Jesus Christ but disavow His words, His mouthpieces on earth, and listen to the voice of their master because that is the only voice they can hear because they are servants of sin themselves. Their "faith in Jesus Christ" is a folly because they do not know His voice, which they cannot know because they are not obedient. They may think they know Him, because "with their mouths they do honor me, but their hearts are far from me" (Isaiah 29), living according to their own thoughts and reasoning.
@@hankbrock8609 Never says “faith in prophets..” Faith is centered in and solely in Christ and Him alone. In saying the language of “Faith in prophets” is very borderline at best and only adds to the confusion when people look at the LDS culture. Just as the scripture states faith in “servants” is not a stand alone statement, it is dangerous and not a tenant of our faith.
The Lord rarely gives reasons for his commandments? What? That is a recipe for being misled. The words of Christ will tell you all things that you shall do. Do not judge the fruit by the tree. By the fruit you will know the tree. A prophet is a prophet only when he acts as such (and teaches the words of Christ).
A first presidency issued a formal doctrinal statement explaing that the ban was based in a judgment from our pre mortal life, and this ban is specifically mentioned in Sbraham chapter one which states that pharaoh was cursed with the ban as he belinged to that RACE that preserved the curse ( originally from Cain) in the land, he being a descendant of Ham.
President Oaks says that the Lord never gives explanations for His commandments. This has not been my experience. I have followed the directions given by Nephi in 2 Nephi 31,32. I am receiving revelations and commandments from the Lord and feasting upon them. I have never offered a prayer or asked a question of the Lord that He hasn't answered -- sometimes immediately, sometimes in the following couple of days as He prepares me to receive an answer. The Lord doesn't play games or manipulate people. If you seek, ask, and knock with humility and real intent, having faith that you will receive, the Lord will answer you in plainness using actual words, ideas, visions, and revelations, not with warm fuzzy feelings.
the real intent in addition to obeying commandments is the hard part. i think a lot of people just want answers and continue to not follow the commandments.
There is a great podcast on how and when we know the truth. It answers a lot of questions. The Podcast is called, "Church History Matters." Go to the 31 October 2023 podcast called, "What Do You Know? And How Do You Know It?" There are five sequential podcasts that will change the way you think about Church pronouncements and Church doctrine. I found them very enlightening and faith promoting.
To me, a false doctrine is one that is not of the bible, one that thinks Jesus is created. A true biblical doctrine is one that believes Jesus is the High Priest and all His people are a holy Priesthood, this is recorded in 1 Peter 2:5. A religion that believes in what Jesus says in the bible, that who believe in Him has the temple with in them and not a temple made with hands. 2 Cor 6:16 Ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
If you follow a false christ warned about in matthew 24 by Jesus ,or Paul's warning in galations 1 following an angel and a false gospel you are condemned
It's the human famley 🤗 💕🌱 We should be doing everything that makes life easy we make living fun!!!! If people could envision a world where everybody free everybody and we don't make each other pay for the gift of living so that we can find the kinds of work that we enjoy doing and make earth a heavenly place I don't understand your idea of waiting till you die to experience heaven why wouldn't you want to do it in the present 🎁 that would make it the gift 💝 of living instead of the cost of living Saying that religions and governments teach you that heavenley life = a deathly experience If you use that for an excuse that's sorry excuse & makes sure your children are born slaves!!! our human famley & heavenley earth 🌎 It would be bunches of work & it would be a bunches of fun!! 🤗 💕🌱 And there doesn't have to be a cost of love! Imagine going work and say we're making our erth heaven!!!! we 🤗👨👩👧👦 live 💕 in heaven! instead of earning Instead of urn⚱️ing living love without a cost of living Like things on Earth are designed We're living on a heavenly Earth instead of living in a financial system we live with love Instead of living with debt Everybody free everybody Don't make each other pay for the gift of living don't make each force rules against others Everybody work together and make the most perfect heaven we can possibley envision!! 🤗 💕🌱
This issue seems to fall easily within the bounds of God’s historical commands/actions- From “Thou shalt not kill,” to “[S]lay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.” Or from “[H]e denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female...” to “[H]e caused a cursing, yea, even a sore cursing… the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.” Exodus 20:13, 1 Samuel 15:3 2 Nephi 26:33, 2 Nephi 5:21
My guy, you can't cut and paste.. we believe all the words of the prophets.. however, if you're gunna cut and paste it should be for purpose of teaching a true principle unto the building of faith and strengthening your brother.. but if you cut and paste to prove a fault unto the tearing down of your brothers faith then you are a liar who took a word out of context. Did Christ suffer for our sins in the garden only? Or only on the cross? Or was it when he was beaten with stripes? If i quoted Isaiah that "by his stripes we are healed", and quoted another saying, he sweat great drops of blood so great was his agony for the sins of the whole world, is there a lie to be found? So it is with baptism unto the forgiveness of sins.. All of the above. What is baptism without Christ sacrafice? What is baptism without faith? What is baptism without laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost? What is baptism without the sacrament? What is baptism without enduring to the end? Take all the truth and build upon it.
False doctrine can and is taught in the church. Pres. McConkie acknowledged this directly about some of the things Brigham taught. He said: “Prophets are men and they make mistakes. Sometimes they err in doctrine… This puts me in mind of Paul’s statement: “There must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.” (1 Cor. 11:19.) I do not know all of the providences of the Lord, but I do know that he permits false doctrine to be taught in and out of the Church and that such teaching is part of the sifting process of mortality. We will be judged by what we believe among other things. If we believe false doctrine, we will be condemned.” (Bruce R. McConkie, Letter to Eugene England regarding Brigham Young, February 19, 1981, p. 6-7)
i hate loathe that word “sifting”. can’t explain really. to me it prescribes to am arrogance something i have a hard time with when used by humans or anyone but god himself. when used by a human i wonder what gives them the right to put themselves over me? No one is over me. I am a free and sovereign agent in charge of my own sifting relationship with God himself only.
One of my sister in laws left the church due to her abusive grandfather who had every family member under his thumb and taught things that were not in the Book of Mormon. If only she'd seen his false teachings she and her husband would still be in the church.
If the leaders of the church can profess false doctrines from the pulpit, how are the members supposed to trust any words they say as doctrine? Good feelings? Sounds to me like the philosophies of men mingled with scripture. I was always taught that these men spoke face to face with god "as a man speaketh with his friend." You'd think that an almighty god would be able to prevent false doctrines from being taught.
@@churtle1143 The notion that the Brethren have seen God and receive verbal instruction from Him is an unfortunate misconception in the church. I have personally heard Elder Bednar say in talks that how he receives revelation did not change after becoming an apostle. I found a quote from Pres. Lee saying that he nor any of the apostles had seen Christ gave to face. The brethren receive revelation and are just as prone to error as we are.
I joined the Church at Easter of 1978. I didn't join for the doctrines. I joined because Gods spirit showed me in spirit and vision that he lives and that the Missionaries and Church were his. I remember learning after joining, that blacks were banned form the priesthood, and praying to God for it to be restored or for their exclusion to be lifted. It never entered my mind that the ban was wrong or the Church untrue. I knew the Church was true. I just supposed the ban was a necessity to be addressed in Gods time. Nevertheless I also supposed that maybe my prayer might find appeal with God and lift the ban. As it happened, President Kimball lifted the ban shorty after my joining. What also occurs to me is that up to my conversion, I had spent the first twenty six years of my life without any knowledge of or access to God, his Church, the priesthood, doctrines or anything relative to salvation. But I don't feel cheated or offended by God or the Church. So I don't think blacks should feel cheated or offended either. Is one robbed to know that God lives, that he is more than all gold and wealth? If you fault the Church for the ban, then you don't know God, and your life is not in him.
It's the human famley 🤗 💕🌱 We should be doing everything that makes life easy we make living fun!!!! If people could envision a world where everybody free everybody and we don't make each other pay for the gift of living so that we can find the kinds of work that we enjoy doing and make earth a heavenly place I don't understand your idea of waiting till you die to experience heaven why wouldn't you want to do it in the present 🎁 that would make it the gift 💝 of living instead of the cost of living Saying that religions and governments teach you that heavenley life = a deathly experience If you use that for an excuse that's sorry excuse & makes sure your children are born slaves!!! our human famley & heavenley earth 🌎 It would be bunches of work & it would be a bunches of fun!! 🤗 💕🌱 And there doesn't have to be a cost of love! Imagine going work and say we're making our erth heaven!!!! we 🤗👨👩👧👦 live 💕 in heaven! instead of earning Instead of urn⚱️ing living love without a cost of living Like things on Earth are designed We're living on a heavenly Earth instead of living in a financial system we live with love Instead of living with debt Everybody free everybody Don't make each other pay for the gift of living don't make each force rules against others Everybody work together and make the most perfect heaven we can possibley envision!! 🤗 💕🌱
Wow, feelings and not facts. You should be ashamed for trying to tell the victims of prejudice and discrimination how they should feel. Embarrassed for you.
@@jeffwilson4693 Many have and many more will. You were wrong to say what you said. Your organization has a horrific and fraudulent past. Speaking of victims, let's mention the young kids abused, many too young to understand and speak for themselves. I'm happy to speak on their behalf, deal with it.
@@ericreed4535 You represent contention, strife and division where there is no sin but the appearance of sin. You are not about justice. In ancient Israel, only men from the tribe if Levi could hold the Aaronic Priesthood. Did God sin in this? Judaism was for Jews and no other as they are the chosen people. Did God sin in this? The gospel of Jesus Christ was to Jews until God gave Peter a revelation to extend it to gentiles. Was it sin aforehand and covered up by a sinful God in extending the blessing to include gentiles? You do not advocate for justice or victims. You advocate for the devil.
I’m a Mormon. We should believe the Scriptures, not man. And the Scriptures testify the Mormon Church is the only true Church of Jesus Christ on Earth. But if something is taught that can't be verified by Scripture, think twice about believing it. I understand why so many people are leaving the church. Many false doctrines exist causing countless RU-vid videos and other comment mediums to mock Mormonism. False doctrines like grandpa gods, (God the Father has a father) Mormons becoming gods of their own planets, Adam helped create the earth, Christ and Satan are brothers, God the Father has rarely spoken in Scripture, The African Americans were bad in the pre-existence; all of which no Scripture verifies. And each Sunday the Sacrament is tainted because only Elders and Priests can administer but the Deacons prepare/administer, and Teachers pass/administer the Sacrament. (D&C 20:57) And the Lord says, He’s bound when we do what He says but if not there is no promise. (D&C 82:10) …that the scriptures might be fulfilled; for ye shall do according to that which is written. (D&C 24:14) And we wonder why there’s depression, mental illness and other unspeakable events among us? And many are leaving the Church because if you don't fit the mold the Church leaders sculpture you're not a part of their click. Mormons believe Church leaders over Scripture. The zealous believers have the Church leaders in mind with everything thing they think say and feel testifying to impress others how much they believe the current Church leaders are God-inspired. I’ve talked with Church members who think they have some kind of spiritual connection to these men (Church leaders) even claiming these men verify in their talks personal revelations. But the Scriptures reveal the Church leaders are the problem with the entire Planet. For example, In 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 we are informed of a person revealed as the son of perdition. This son of perdition sits in the temple of God making himself God or above all that is called God. Therefore, if the Mormon Church is the only true Church then the only person 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 could be talking about is the current Mormon prophet. For what other church is the one and only true Church with temples? And Joseph Smith taught a son of perdition can only be a Church member holding all the rights of God's priesthood and using the priesthood against God, as did Judas. Therefore, who else other than the current Mormon prophet could the apostle Paul be speaking of? Please answer if you can? It's as plain as the nose on a face. And God in the Doctrine and Covenants tells us about the current Church leaders and how displeased He is saying the end of this world will begin among them. (D&C 112:23-26) and the 12 blaspheme His name in the mist of His house. God Himself tells us these men are heinous. But members ignore God's true words in Scripture because it's easier to aspire to Church leadership casting God behind. Joseph Smith taught the false doctrine of grandpa gods (God the Father has a father) not over the pulpit as a prophet but as a sermon at a funeral, which should not be taken as Scripture fulfilling God’s sayings to Paul, And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: (2 Thessalonians 2:11) That they might be damned who believed not the truth. (2Thessalonians 2:12) And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. (Revelation 13:7) (D&C 112:23-26) And the current Mormon prophet as the son of perdition has all the saints believing God our Heavenly Father was created by a being greater than Himself but Scripture says there is no greater than our God. (Hebrews 6:13) Therefore, the son of perdition has all the saints breaking the first commandment God gave Moses, Thou shalt have no other gods before me. (Exodus 20:3) Does it make sense to reasonable thinking that God would command we have no other gods before Him but really there are? We shouldn't know this because God doesn't want us thinking He's not as great as He says He is? There’s a reason He commanded to have no other gods before Him. Because by believing in false grandpa gods the saints believe our God is an infinitely lesser God putting Lucifer before God. And the moment we put a god before our God, our God becomes an infinitely lesser God. How couldn't He? when there are infinitely more gods before Him? Can you answer? Not only that, our God also becomes a liar. He and the Scriptures say He is the greatest of all! He and the Scriptures says He is the Most High God! He and the Scriptures say He created all things! And in the Scriptures He frequently says there are no gods beside Him. (Isaiah 44:6) (Isaiah 44:8) (Isaiah 45:22) (Hebrews 6:13) Therefore, the saints believing there are gods before Him is the saints believing the son of perdition or the current Mormon prophet over the Scriptures and calling God and the Scriptures a lie. And Isaiah warns, Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! (Isaiah 5:20) The saints call the son of perdition (President Nelson) good and good (Jesus Christ) evil. Because President Nelson says Christ and His Father are liars and fosters the false doctrines. Peter, John, Paul, Alma, Nephi, Lehi, Jacob and all the canonized prophets would not allow false doctrines from the Adversary but President Nelson does. President Nelson says Christ did not create all things. (John 1:1-3) Matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed the scientists say therefore the son of perdition or President Nelson says the grandpa gods created these calling Christ and the Scriptures a lie. Well did Abinadi warn the wicked king Noah and his priests, Have ye taught this people that they should observe to do all these things for to keep these commandments? (Mosiah 13:25) I say unto you, Nay; for if ye had, the Lord would not have caused me to come forth and to prophesy evil concerning this people. (Mosiah 13:26) And what is the commandment Abinadi taught that the people do not obey? Thou shalt have no other God before me. (Mosiah 12:35) Know ye not that I speak the truth? Yea, ye know that I speak the truth; and you ought to tremble before God. (Mosiah 12:30) And it is a false doctrine to say God our Heavenly Father has rarely spoke to us in Scripture. (3 Nephi 27:26), (3 Nephi 24:1). (2 Nephi 31:20), (2 Nephi 31:11) (D&C 49:20) Beware of the doctrine of the scribes and Pharisees, which are today’s Church leaders. (Matthew 16:6-12) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. (Matthew 23:15)
I’m a Mormon. We should believe the Scriptures, not man. And the Scriptures testify the Mormon Church is the only true Church of Jesus Christ on Earth. But if something is taught that can't be verified by Scripture, think twice about believing it. I understand why so many people are leaving the church. Many false doctrines exist causing countless RU-vid videos and other comment mediums to mock Mormonism. False doctrines like grandpa gods, (God the Father has a father) Mormons becoming gods of their own planets, Adam helped create the earth, Christ and Satan are brothers, God the Father has rarely spoken in Scripture, The African Americans were bad in the pre-existence; all of which no Scripture verifies. And each Sunday the Sacrament is tainted because only Elders and Priests can administer but the Deacons prepare/administer, and Teachers pass/administer the Sacrament. (D&C 20:57) And the Lord says, He’s bound when we do what He says but if not there is no promise. (D&C 82:10) …that the scriptures might be fulfilled; for ye shall do according to that which is written. (D&C 24:14) And we wonder why there’s depression, mental illness and other unspeakable events among us? And many are leaving the Church because if you don't fit the mold the Church leaders sculpture you're not a part of their click. Mormons believe Church leaders over Scripture. The zealous believers have the Church leaders in mind with everything thing they think say and feel testifying to impress others how much they believe the current Church leaders are God-inspired. I’ve talked with Church members who think they have some kind of spiritual connection to these men (Church leaders) even claiming these men verify in their talks personal revelations. But the Scriptures reveal the Church leaders are the problem with the entire Planet. For example, In 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 we are informed of a person revealed as the son of perdition. This son of perdition sits in the temple of God making himself God or above all that is called God. Therefore, if the Mormon Church is the only true Church then the only person 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 could be talking about is the current Mormon prophet. For what other church is the one and only true Church with temples? And Joseph Smith taught a son of perdition can only be a Church member holding all the rights of God's priesthood and using the priesthood against God, as did Judas. Therefore, who else other than the current Mormon prophet could the apostle Paul be speaking of? Please answer if you can? It's as plain as the nose on a face. And God in the Doctrine and Covenants tells us about the current Church leaders and how displeased He is saying the end of this world will begin among them. (D&C 112:23-26) and the 12 blaspheme His name in the mist of His house. God Himself tells us these men are heinous. But members ignore God's true words in Scripture because it's easier to aspire to Church leadership casting God behind. Joseph Smith taught the false doctrine of grandpa gods (God the Father has a father) not over the pulpit as a prophet but as a sermon at a funeral, which should not be taken as Scripture fulfilling God’s sayings to Paul, And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: (2 Thessalonians 2:11) That they might be damned who believed not the truth. (2Thessalonians 2:12) And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. (Revelation 13:7) (D&C 112:23-26) And the current Mormon prophet as the son of perdition has all the saints believing God our Heavenly Father was created by a being greater than Himself but Scripture says there is no greater than our God. (Hebrews 6:13) Therefore, the son of perdition has all the saints breaking the first commandment God gave Moses, Thou shalt have no other gods before me. (Exodus 20:3) Does it make sense to reasonable thinking that God would command we have no other gods before Him but really there are? We shouldn't know this because God doesn't want us thinking He's not as great as He says He is? There’s a reason He commanded to have no other gods before Him. Because by believing in false grandpa gods the saints believe our God is an infinitely lesser God putting Lucifer before God. And the moment we put a god before our God, our God becomes an infinitely lesser God. How couldn't He? when there are infinitely more gods before Him? Can you answer? Not only that, our God also becomes a liar. He and the Scriptures say He is the greatest of all! He and the Scriptures says He is the Most High God! He and the Scriptures say He created all things! And in the Scriptures He frequently says there are no gods beside Him. (Isaiah 44:6) (Isaiah 44:8) (Isaiah 45:22) (Hebrews 6:13) Therefore, the saints believing there are gods before Him is the saints believing the son of perdition or the current Mormon prophet over the Scriptures and calling God and the Scriptures a lie. And Isaiah warns, Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! (Isaiah 5:20) The saints call the son of perdition (President Nelson) good and good (Jesus Christ) evil. Because President Nelson says Christ and His Father are liars and fosters the false doctrines. Peter, John, Paul, Alma, Nephi, Lehi, Jacob and all the canonized prophets would not allow false doctrines from the Adversary but President Nelson does. President Nelson says Christ did not create all things. (John 1:1-3) Matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed the scientists say therefore the son of perdition or President Nelson says the grandpa gods created these calling Christ and the Scriptures a lie. Well did Abinadi warn the wicked king Noah and his priests, Have ye taught this people that they should observe to do all these things for to keep these commandments? (Mosiah 13:25) I say unto you, Nay; for if ye had, the Lord would not have caused me to come forth and to prophesy evil concerning this people. (Mosiah 13:26) And what is the commandment Abinadi taught that the people do not obey? Thou shalt have no other God before me. (Mosiah 12:35) Know ye not that I speak the truth? Yea, ye know that I speak the truth; and you ought to tremble before God. (Mosiah 12:30) And it is a false doctrine to say God our Heavenly Father has rarely spoke to us in Scripture. (3 Nephi 27:26), (3 Nephi 24:1). (2 Nephi 31:20), (2 Nephi 31:11) (D&C 49:20) Beware of the doctrine of the scribes and Pharisees, which are today’s Church leaders. (Matthew 16:6-12) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. (Matthew 23:15)
No Mormon's are here listening to any false Poopit's here. This page was setup using Jesus name so those who search for the true Jesus online are lured to the fake Jesus here that Joseph Smith created as a decoy to gain material riches. Smith loved worldly treasures that he used the Bible, God and Jesus to look good outwardly like a dog in sheep's clothing. He cared nothing for the true God or Jesus that Satan cares nothing for also. He cared nothing for the people using false gospel to destroy their soul in hell. He was put in Jail to protect people but his crooks slipped a gun to him as Smith used to kill people to escape. This crook was shot to death to stop this hatred against mankind. A dangerous crook that had the printing press destroyed to hide the truth for the crook he was. Many lives are shot up by Smith decoys that's set out even today. BIG RICH CHURCHES from the love of material gain with inside empty of the of the true riches of the true God or true Jesus. Smith's version to deceive was created from God that is Spirit and truth in the Bible to Smith's version making his god flesh living on a planet named Kolob with sex galore that was more of Smith's earthly gain he treasured most dearly. Then this Conman Smith made his created Jesus the brother of Satan. The BOM was nothing but a dog tick on the Bible to suck out the blood that saves us as Smith injects I HAVE DONE MORE THAN JESUS. Blasphemy!!! If their is a Mormon does pass by and see's this message and still teams up like the crooks stood by Smith then you are locked up awaiting for the Great Judge to sentence you. To a place with no escape ever as your treasured Smith found out that he can't shoot off his mouth ever again upon the earth. Satan is the Father of lies with Smith ushering in the Antichrist. The Spirit of Antichrist is out that Mormon's are now ushering in having the wrong Jesus. Question is, What Shall A Man Profit If He Gained The Whole World And Lost His Soul?
Belief in gods and churches and stuff like that is all false doctrine. There is not a god looking over your shoulder. Checking how you have sex. There is no god going to send you to hell. There is no god that's going to help you.
He is evading the reality that he and all of us were endowed with a conscience. To suggest that God does not give reasons for commandments, but only gives the laws arbitrarily is complete nonsense at the least and unbelievable dangerous at worst. David O McKay lamented himself not acting on the priesthood ban himself. How long does it take to simply do the right thing, and don't give the, "we have to wait for the Lord" excuse. Do really think God is pleased with our kicking the can down the street, placing blame on him for not instructing us to do the right thing sooner? Do the right thing when you realize it's the right thing, not when someone else tells you it's the right thing.
Blacks not being able to hold the priesthood was not a false doctrinal teaching. It was the Church’s policy at the time. The title to this video is misleading. But I loved President Oak’s comments regardless.
It was absolutely "doctrine", do the research. This has become the Church's way to sidestep the issue of having to own our overtly racist past. OWN it, say we were wrong, stop making excuses.
Sad when Cults like Smith started that call his followers Christians that they are not. Yet Atheist capitalize on this fake stories to condemn all Christians and fake christians. Atheist plays their part in this deception to say God does not exist but created just as Joseph Smith did do in calling God flesh when in the Bible we read He is Spirit. Satan is behind this using the fake to remove the true God and true Christians just as Satan wars to do but never will achieve. This false Poopit Smith was placed in jail where a gun was slipped to him. He when to kill with this gun but he was shot to death probably by husbands who Smith laid with their wives. Smith is in Hell prison now never to escape while many today serve Smith to join him in Satan's Brimstone bed because hot beds is what Smith really worshipped. To screw folks away from God to be dressed in hot see through flames.
Since the Holy Bible, Jesus Christ, and Almighty God often contradict the LDS, I've always wondered how they would identify any so-called false doctrines?
We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Definitions of remission of sin. the act of absolving or remitting; formal redemption as pronounced by a priest in the sacrament of penance. synonyms: absolution, remission, remittal. types: indulgence. the remission by the pope of the temporal punishment in purgatory that is still due for sins even after absolution.
I no longer believe 8 year olds are the age of accountability. Can an 8 year old child understand the gravity of becoming a member of the LDS religion? Make a choice or obligation to serve as a missionary at 8years old when age 18 ?
While I'd appreciate the entirety of his talk, this will do. Sometimes we don't have answers and all we can do is have faith. Satan is really really good at taking our approach to "just have faith" and turning it into a list of red flags. People will fight Jesus Christ all they want, but in the end he'll win and to be honest it's really sad. Why would some one try to, let alone want to, fight Jesus, he's Jesus. That's like fighting Winnie the Pooh yall.
This is Dallin throwing God under the bus. The restriction started with Brigham Young due to his racism, even though he claimed it started with Joseph (demonstrably false). Brigham said it was from God and now modern leaders have to throw God under the bus to account for the false teachings of past leaders. They’re incapable of just saying it like it is, “past leaders were wrong, it was never of God.”
"For behold, I am God; and I am a God of miracles; and I will show unto the world that I am the same yesterday, today, and forever; and work not among the children of men save it be according to their faith." - 2 Nephi:23
Wow..im appalled that any father wouldnt want to have this issue reported immediately.. it went on for a year or more.. dont make excuses for these men who ring lawyers and not police..its disgusting and this is one of many cases that they covered up..the church has it set up this way.we all have a moral duty to stop abuse..imagine leaving these children in this mess.the mother was useless but putting it all on her shows how we will defend this neglect by members and it has to stop...
I took the bait and clicked on this because I thought it was going to deal with rank-and-file members promoting false notions, rather than how to deal with a policy that we had always been told would change at some point. I'm pretty sure that Elder Oaks would also take exception to this clip being promoted in this fashion.
The notion that it was originally taught that the Priesthood Ban would eventually be lifted in this life is is untrue. Brigham Young taught that the priesthood ban could not be ended until the millennium. He said: “the Lord told Cain that he should not receive the blessings of the Priesthood, nor his seed, until the last of the posterity of Abel had received the Priesthood, until the redemption of the earth.”(The Teachings of President Brigham Young Vol. 3 1852-1854, p. 41) Pres. McConkie acknowledged this when the ban was lifted. He said: “There are statements in our literature by the early Brethren which we have interpreted to mean that the Negroes would not receive the priesthood in mortality. I have said the same things, and people write me letters and say, “You said such and such, and how is it now that we do such and such?” And all I can say to that is that it is time disbelieving people repented and got in line and believed in a living, modern prophet. Forget everything that I have said, or what President Brigham Young or President George Q. Cannon or whomsoever has said in days past that is contrary to the present revelation. We spoke with a limited understanding and without the light and knowledge that now has come into the world.” (Bruce R. McConkie, CES Religious Educators Symposium: All Are Alike Unto God, 1978 August 18)
What an example...pointing to an institution rather than a heavenly kingdom. He gives the appearance of righteousness, yet inwardly he is a ravening wolf. There is nothing we can do to change the false doctrines of the church, so the only way to repent of them is to become disloyal to the leaders and the institution. I can tell you with all of my heart that your Savior would rather you put yourself into the furnace of affliction setting your face against the church and its leaders than continue in willing disobedience to God's will if he has revealed it to you. Obedience to man is not greater than obedience to God even if you continue praying that one day those men may be changed. Follow the example of Christ and cast out wickedness from among you as it exists in the house built unto his name no matter the consequence including death, "for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you." (Matt 5:12)
So your trying to receive Christ without receiving his servants? don't you know that those who rejects God's servants reject Him? I don't know if you believe the Book of Mormon or that Joseph Smith is a prophet, but one of the great warnings in the Book of Mormon and Bible is people rejecting God's prophets and fighting against them thinking they do God service.
@@andrewdurfee3896 but there are many warnings of impostors servants who testify of Christ but don't know him in truth. They are hypocrites who say one thing and do another. They are liars and have not given their heart to God even though outwardly they appear righteous and good, but they have not been born of the spirit and made into new creatures and children of Christ. We need to wrestle with God to know which servants are his true servants and which ones are false. Lehi rejected the false ones and his sons claimed he was rejecting God's servants. Was he really though? Was Hannaniah and others really true servants preaching a pretended peace and safety, or was Jeremiah the true servant? What if you found yourself at temple square and the true servants were saying to repent, turn from idolatrous temple worship and flee for safety before the temple is destroyed and billions of dollars wasted? On the other hand servants tell you to trust that God will provide you peace and safety in the temple? Which servants are bearing the true message? Which message is delivered by the gift and power of the Holy Ghost? It is a difficult discernment, but scriptures helps us see with the correct eyes, and understand with the correct mindset. Those prefessing to be God's servants reject God's people thinking they are doing God and his church a service, but God flips the situation on its head. Isaiah 66:5 "Hear the word of the Lord, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name’s sake, said, Let the Lord be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed."
What he said is more in-line with: baptismal water is not what makes us clean. It is the Savior Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ uses the covenant made through the ordinance of baptism to cleanse our sins, not the physical water we enter. The reason he distinguished a difference in the power of the water and the power of Jesus Christ… is that one continues to cleanse while the other is a one-time event. To build on his story shared: he explains that he misunderstood that right after his baptism was the cleanest he would ever be. “Not so”… he later learned, because it was not the dip into the baptismal font that cleansed him, but rather the power of Jesus Christ, which is received through the covenantal ordinance of the sacrament as well. He in no wise detracted from the importance of baptism (or the washing away of sins), but rather refocused what baptism was actually doing. Baptism is not done for us to wash away our own sins.. baptism is done as a witness and a covenant that we are choosing and willing to follow Jesus Christ. As a result, Jesus Christ cleanses us.. not the water. To add: baptismal purity is true. However, the thought: “right after baptism is the purest or cleanest we will EVER be again” is not true. The sacrament renews that purity every single week, should our hearts covenant once again to follow the Savior Jesus Christ.
damn i love this even though im not from USA but im a converter to the church of Jesus Christ of latter days used Joseph Smith a young boy with question heart just like i did when i was 15 and i got a massive hitting from my family so i left everything to this day i live by my faith and my trusts are all in Gods only, Joseph smith was prophecied in the bible , snd Jesus sees his own people with hard heart , He knew that the last days the Authority will give to the Gentiles, Joseph smith is a Gentile that Restore the real Church of Jesus Christ so we dont Get Lost umong these evil world, God chose David by Heart, you guys think God cannot chose a young good heart man some where who have good parents who raise them right,? we all familiar with good people like these in our own community this is common sense , if youre a good person and god chose you to be the prophet of today, bro my friend i will humble and accept that its common sense
The church does not teach the Doctrine of Christ as given in the Book of Mormon. Instead, it has instituted the so-call "covenant path", which actually denies the work of Christ and our need for Him. The church violates or ignores every single section in the D&C in one or more points. This covers a lot of teachings and principles. The only revelation which is encouraged in the church is the personal revelation that the church is true and the leaders are inspired. Any other revelation is strongly discouraged. The church conflates confirmation in the church with the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost, thus giving members the false impression that they actually have the companionship of the Holy Ghost, when actually they only have a warm fuzzy emotional feeling. Joseph Smith said that the gift of the Holy Ghost is what distinguishes the church from all other sects or denominations. Having done this, Mormonism has degenerated into just another "faith" The church has changed the temple ordinances without revelation. Joseph Smith taught that the ordinances are only to be changed by revelation under Adam's authority. The church teaches and enforces a false misunderstanding of the Law of Tithing. It teaches that Malachi is condemning ordinary members for not paying their tithing, but if you read the entire Book of Malachi, he is chewing out the priests for their misappropriate of the tithing funds that they receive. This is enough for now.
For one of the things you have mentioned having his Spirit to be with us, please look more into the sacramental prayers (they are some of the most important in my opinion) the promise Jesus made with us is that we will have his spirit to be with us as long as we remember him, in my life the more I have had Heavenly father and Jesus Christ on my mind the more I have seen miracles and the things God does for us. The goal is to become more like Christ, we may have questions in life but we have the ability to study and pray to our heavenly father, and through the power of the holy ghost we can recieve truths by reading the scriptures, sometimes people get that wrong, but we can pray to ask Heavenly Father and recieve our own answers to questions we may have, sometimes those answers may take years to find but I believe we will eventually understand just as Heavenly Father does; humble and meek like unto a child. Our knowledge is very little compared to Heavenly Father's infinite knowledge.
for too long I went along, I was never happy with the Church as an institution. Simply following the brethren means we do nothing, we are not tested we simply follow them which goes against everything the Lord teaches us, yes they teach about personal revelation unless it conflicts with the brethren and then you are wrong, can people not see how dangerous that is, just look at our own history. So well said. I am converted to Christ and the Gospel, I don’t believe Joseph Smith would recognise the church now.
@@williamhaddock1838 sorry, but the teachings of the Prophets of the church stand against you. Brigham Young was concerned that the saints would rely to heavily on the prophet and not get there own revelation that the things he said to see if they were true.
Joseph Smith himself told Brigham Young, that the endowment he gave him, the twelve, etc. needed to be improved upon and systematized. Revelation was indeed given and the endowment has been improved upon. Nope I'm going to keep paying my tithing and not be burned at his coming.
@@andrewdurfee3896 and how much tithing will you pay? In D7C 119 the revelation states that tithing should be paid on interest, if you believe the revelation to be from God he states, which will be a standing law forever, but the Church changed that as well. As soon as Joseph was killed Brigham stated that he (they) would start a revision of Church history, why ?Why does history need to be changed or revised, unless it doesn’t fit your narrative, and with the greatest of respect to you Andrew, if the reason you are paying your tithing is so not to be burnt, would suggest you have a flawed understanding of tithing and its purpose. Remember that according to the BoM that faith is only faith if it is in Truth.
According to Specer W Kimbals sons. There was no direction or revelation from God. The decision was pragmatic. Social pressure and a Temple on Brazil baptizing Africa's unknowingly was the motivation.
As a Bishop my response was to call the police and then seek legal advice on how to contain the perpetrator. Unfortunately by the time I got involved there wasn't much I could do, except prevent him from getting near anyone else. But I don't live in the USA. So are you blaming the Bishop for following the legal advice? How much did the Bishop know? I have also heard that the mother was covering up and denying a lot of what was going on, even to the Bishop. She could have informed the police at any time, but continued to play happy families. I am sure she was advised to, as the bishop thought he couldn't and the Bishop would have supported getting them away from him and there would have been no second child or rape Another time I helped a family get evidence. At first I installed the software, but was told I couldnt do that, so I deleted it, but there was nothing wrong with the woman installing it, that I could help doing. I had to stay on the right side of the law too. Stop blaming the poor Bishops who are placed in these situations, who are following the legal advice they are given. What about the other organisations, friends, family, neighbours, school, work? The church is always an easy target. Then there was the case of the wife suing the church because a bishop did report her husband. So it is a case of you are dammed if you do, or if you don't. I would never want to be a bishop again. I personally would contact the police in every case and I wouldn't care if I was released or not, but its not easy on a lot of bishops who don't have my background in social work and education. There are more cases of Bishops doing the right thing than not, you don't get to hear of them because they are interruptions, preventions and rescues. It is so easy to be a critic, but the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints has some of the best protection procedures in any Christian or religious organisation.
Man I was hoping for something better than "Be patient and wait for God's Prophetic leadership to figure out it's false" Shouldn't God's chosen leadership be able to distinguish truth from falsehood? Discrimination of this kind was never right, never good, never holy, and never supported in scripture. How could anyone in leadership hate their brother so much?
Sure, look through mortal eyes then criticize the church leaders. You are totally wrong to accuse church leaders of hatred. If you have no testimony then say so!
@@blizzard2oo My testimony is that I place my complete trust in Jesus who lives and loves me, whom God raised from the dead. And that love is available to everyone by grace through faith - not by works and not after all we can do, lest any one should boast. There is no Jew nor gentile, no slave nor free but Christ is all in all - its just too bad the LDS church took nearly 150 years to figure this out. Hopefully someday soon the Leadership will figure out that salvation is by Grace alone through faith alone, and not "after all you can do". I just hope it doesnt take another 150 years.
@@matthayes533 Notice that DHO was about 45 years old when the ban was lifted. He had been praying for close to 20 years possibly for this to be changed? Also, he was serving as President of BYU at the time the ban was lifted. He was being loyal to the church as he sought to climb the ladder. He somehow jumped from a Justice to an Apostle! You would never see that today as the ladder has clearly been defined as going through the 70. I wonder why this has changed in recent years. I think the wolves in sheep's clothing have taken full control of the organization again. By "again" I mean since the days of Brigham Young. I believe Wilford Woodruff was in the right to dispose of Polygamy and eventually those polygamist wolves all died out. We were warned that they would come back in though, and we are seeing it full-fledged today penetrating the highest ranks of the church. Something to think about the phrase "all we can do" is I think you misunderstand it. Consider this, Nephi in stating, "for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do" was not saying that religious works were required to the greatest extent possible, and then grace would kick in. He was saying that even though you perform all of the works you think are salvific, they are dead works and only grace can save EVEN AFTER you have done everything we think we can do. Could it be possible that Nephi is saying that no matter how much we do, only the grace of Christ will save us? "Wherefore we speak concerning the law that our children may know the deadness of the law; and they, by knowing the deadness of the law, may look forward unto that life which is in Christ, and know for what end the law was given. And after the law is fulfilled in Christ that they need not harden their hearts against him when the law ought to be done away." The early saints were given a neo-law-of-moses in order to trip them up. They know not of the deadness of their law, and if they did they wouldn't harden the hearts against the few who are beginning to speak up and expose it for its deadness expounding upon ancient prophecy as evidence of our waywardness.
I find it interesting that when you make a statement that would seem obvious, you are attacked as not having a testimony. Your testimony should be based on your belief in Christ. After that foundation is established, your testimony could also confirm whether a doctrine revealed by a man who professes to be a Prophet is true or false. When the Church continually teaches the false doctrine that their Prophet cannot lead you astray , they open themselves up to scrutiny of everything. The old statement that something that will not hold up to scrutiny needs to be scrutinized CAN lead a person to truth. It can also lead you into more deception. That is why most members are too fearful to question anything from a leader. The journey for truth takes constant effort and was intended to be a personal journey for each of us.
Ha! The distribution of the Gospel has always had restrictions on it. The old testament is full of peoples not taught the Gospel. When Christ sent the disciples out to preach the Gospel to "all the world" it was not to the Gentiles. That didn't come until Cornelius. God captains the ship. Man your post and do your duty.
Did you not read this post, the whole point of it is to point out the LACK of critical thinking, so you are encouraging people not to think for themselves, the 'Brethren' will do the thinking for you! Yea, good advice, and you don't think there are even more difficult decisions ahead? Wasn't it Lucifer who was going to do your thinking for you and Christ had something to say about that.
What a load of malarkey! Of course he was blissfully ignorant of them in his youth growing up in Utah. He probably had never encountered a Blackman!!! The statement of the early church leaders was NOT that one day the restriction would be lifted. But that it wouldn't be lifted in this earthly dispensation. Wake up people, how long will you tolerate being fed these blatant lies for explanations.
