This is a neat little product! Would be great for adding a simple bass shelf with devices that only output to S/PDIF. Too bad the Q-values are wide, but for $80 you can’t complain too much.
I did take note of that 8k peak when I first tried these but it's not as bad as it measures. Still noticed it though even before I saw the graph. One thing I like about the Q1 Pro is that it takes really well to EQ. You can tweak this thing to your heart's content.
nice review there's a different old old bone conductor that -- obviously if you wear ear plugs it would sound "louder" but maybe not this brand but the other bone conductor earphones - i feel like the "sound" is going through my ear canal and out my ear - now that i sealed the ear entrance/exit the sound bounce back in to my ear giving me a more full sound when using out side. of course if im using ear plugs why not use IEMs....i dont know - just sharing a past experience trying out bone conducting earphones (so wont plug my ears in quiet places but out doors would plug my ears anyways) not really someone to have multiple earphones for multiple purposes
yeah these are different. I do find that bone conduction headphones sound different. These are more like small speakers that hover in front of your ears
@@Koiz3rTri aftermarket tips do help, since they’re designed to stay in place much better. The stock tips move by design, which is part of the problem for sure
I agree on the dsp app is horrible the cable is nice to have but they really need to improve the app also the ios version is a must. As for the analog tuning I am a huge fan since I love female vocal and this really makes female vocal shine, the dsp tuning sound smooth but not special in my opinion. I wish they make the analog cable nicer may be more robust and not too cheap feeling, it’s a good cable but it just feels too cheap. I’m amaze how the sub bass is tuned it is a bit of sharp rise so you get a decently fast bass response and a lot of sub bass making it more impactful, but the mid range is not recessed it really give the best of both worlds. As for treble it is a bit shouty especially the 16k peak but it does make high vocal sound clear and not muddy, but it’s not for everyone so I guess why the dsp version is more preferable to some people. Also Crin has released PEQ value and a wavelet file in his own website as well so you can use tuning on your EQ software and not the sap cable.
How do you get the magnet to stay stuck on the quest 3 plastic? My magnet mounting points keep falling off, which is an issue i've only had with the quest
@@sidesaladaudio i see yes bro im also gonna use it for my moondrop x crinacle dusk my friend told me to jnust buy this just for cable i was wondering if it really that good
Sorry if you already mentioned it, but i was wondering if you are planning on reviewing the hype 4 eventually? I know it has been talked about a lot recently & so far seems like a good option
I reviewed them yesterday only and have similar observation. If you like relaxed signature with BASS emphasis only then it is for you. However, I must say this tuning is popular amongst masses.
How are these for trance, rock/metal, pop, electronica, classical ect... ? I listen to a wide range of genres. I like detailed, wide, punchy and a little warm sound. It must be enganging and musical. Not Fatigue. And of course comfortable. The most comfort iems ive had, is the beyerdynamic xelento. A good iem. But to pricey
It’s one of those things than can change for a person based on how they perceive things. I used to hear a lot of differences in soundstage in IEMs and headphones, but a lot of that really has to do with how the music is mixed, or in the case of headphones, open backs that let you hear ambient room noise do help the effect as well. But headphones and especially IEMs don’t interact with your ear in a way that gives you a real sense of localization. It’s perceived as coming from inside your head or nowhere. Which is why diffuse field is referenced a lot in tuning (tuning a headphone or IEM as if the speaker is directly in front of you sounds wrong to most people). Binaural recordings can give more of a sense of localization since that information is in the recording itself, but the source of the sound is still being produced as if it’s coming from nowhere. Now for me, when I hear IEMs that I used to perceive as sounding wide, now I more often hear them as just sounding tonaly off in their tuning rather than really wide.
@sidesaladaudio tonaly off? Are you implying that wider stereo width is simply illusions created by FR inadequacies? For me, no matter how I tried to eq my S12's, they always had a thin and cramped soundstage in comparison to other iems I own. Regardless of cause, is it not still on you as a reviewer to describe the experience of using the audio device?
@@dennisalarcon9175 It's not for you to tell someone how to review something, they can't explain something they don't experience. Unless you'd prefer reviewers just made stuff up.
@CammyFi I apologize if I came across harsh in any way. The problem is that Sharur and other "objectivist" trolls out there are on the rise, who like to spread the idea that everything sound wise will come down to FR. In my experience, that has been far from the truth, so I feel that it is good for the community to push back when they hear that stuff. Idk, as far as I can tell, side salad seems good faith, but I just don't want that ideology to spread.
@dennisalarcon9175 “everything comes back to FR”, is often misrepresented or minimized by people who like to troll. In theory, yes in a minimum phase system like headphones or IEMs *most* of what you hear should come back to the FR at your own eardrum. This is what a lot more in the community are staring to believe, as more data comes in. That’s why even channels like the Headphone show, Crinacle, and others also say the same thing. The problem though that people run into is that they put all their faith into graphs, when it doesn’t explain the entire experience that you hear when listening in person. as well, how things measure on a graph also won’t be representative of how you hear said IEM or headphone since the FR in your own ear will not match what is seen on the graphs. Things will vary a lot from person to person, and Psychoacoustics can be affected by things like fit, isolation or ambient nose, bias, mental state, or just how one may believe or understand things to work. I think that’s why I don’t really hear soundstage as much anymore, because just for myself it isn’t something I consider important. There are some who would normally be labeled as “objectivists”, but don’t really think of themselves as objectivists because they believe that what you hear yourself is more important than just what appears on a graph. I consider myself more in that camp. I think that data is really interesting and good to have, but in the end it still comes down to each person individually, since there’s a lot of variables that affect things in the end.
I think that at least TylersEclectic also commented on the same treble sharpness that you pointed out, at least out of the reviews that I have checked thus far. So, it's not just you.
Oh man, been waiting for any reviews of these. Happy the review embargo is finally lifted. Pretty sure this was brought up in one of the headphone show live streams.
Meze stuff is always so we'll designed but these just look plain ugly to me, like they are just sample shells from the factory to test tuning without all the exterior design features. I heard a lot of people hyping them up so I was hoping they were good enough to overcome the visual aspect but if they are not just ugly, but mediocre and ugly then I really can't justify them at all
Designs are subjective and I find these much more classy looking than those IEMs with resin shells. Tunning wise, Meze would have set themselves up for a failure if they tuned these to Harman since hardware wise, they can't beat those Chifi brands. I think these would sell very well.
Reviewers usually get sent the devices weeks in advance, but they aren't allowed to post until a certain date, known as an embargo. When the embargo comes, every reviewer rushes to get his video/article out first, because the first ones will obviously get the most clicks. That's how it works for tech, games, and pretty much every other industry.
the timing doesn't make me believe in conspiracies, but the amount of sly ways to overhype it sure does (from other reviewers, this reviewer is legit). The more shocking thing is Bloom Audio is a seller/distributor and even they were more honest about the Alba than the other mainstream review channels. The way those channels try to cherry pick single DD IEMs below a certain price (some even outdated IEMs) to try to hype the Alba as "best" within a certain tier looked very intentional and sly. I've only seen this channel and Bloom Audio give an honest take on the Alba. This channel says it's just not worth the value and it's also grainy, unnatural, and not neutral, lacking sub-bass. Bloom Audio just tells you it's an upgrade if all you've got are $50 IEMs, else this is something to carry outside so you don't have to take your better IEMs out. The other channels are oddly suspicious, as they try to keep saying "best under xxx dollars" or "best single DD under xxx dollars" and give flowery descriptions of the entire sound.
