Roguelike Celebration is a nonprofit community-generated conference that celebrates roguelike computer games and related topics, including procedural generation and game design
To make it simple, history generation in CoQ is like this. Every time you start new game, RNG seed generates new set of 5 Sultans, which names would be mentioned in description of some objects in the world. 🎉 Besides we have a static worldmap with static cities, and procedural generated dungeons.
It's funny. The problem he described in the beginning is exactly what the left wing wants for the whole world. Everyone everywhere to be exactly the same.
Modulo 100 does have subtle ingame effects, usually expressed by missing enemy several times in a row, when your hit chance is 95%. So unless you want frustrating users, avoid it. In more serious modelling you will just get incorrect results, which may or may not help proving your hypothesis and getting more grant money.
6:37 I don't know how recent this speech is, but in the latest version, player characters do have innate traits. They're not really game changers so it's not that important anyway
So the speaker is looking at the original K&R C code as I see the definition of function parameters... Then I checked GitHub and the source code seems update to post ANSI C
Great talk! Performance characteristics are cool but the real reason I'm drawn to learning ECS architecture is that sometimes I _really_ want to be able to treat my game like it's a database. I was doing a tutorial (Hands on Rust by Herbert Wolverson) where putting an item in your inventory was as simple as adding a CarriedBy (player) component to the item. I can really see a lot of possibility to think of the _relationships_ between components when designing new systems.
Thank you guys! I feel so much more motivated to bit the game. (never actually got thither then level 14, tried many times. And it's just so nice to see that it's possible)
it's really surprising how roguelike has a huge community because it has expended from its traditional self to a generic tag to put on games that don't fit anywhere. I really like the community even if I prefer traditional, I still think there are a lot of cool roguelike such as hades and binding of Isaac out there.
On this topic, check out Fidel Dungeon Rescue, it is the most successful implementation of these types of puzzles I can recall. The variability is achieved through random combination of mechanics. Also, puzzliness is lowered by making a goal variable with many solutions, which helps a lot.
Interesting talk, but the puzzle examples in the presentation don't seem that engaging to solve repeatedly. They lack any major "a-ha" moment (like the puzzles in Baba Is You or Monster's Expedition) and feel more like the sort of puzzles you'd solve in the Sunday newspaper. That's fine as a small distraction meant to break up the game's pace, but I wonder if there's a way to make more interesting puzzles with some of the elements from the truly great puzzle games. One issue that comes to mind is that a lot of puzzles in puzzle games are designed around a specific interaction between two or more elements that a player hasn't seen before, causing them to learn something new with every puzzle. That's difficult to replicate in a roguelike, since once the player learns the interaction, they'd be able to solve any puzzle that relies on that interaction pretty easily. You'd need either a massive list of different interactions to use or procedurally generate new interactions with each run.
Agreed! I'm obsessed with this idea of generating conceptually novel problems.. I tried to make open world thingie where object types generate dynamically with different rule combinations as you explore, but the project went nowhere. My solution for the moment is loosening the puzzliness of the problem, opening multiple possible goals that the player could pursue. Working on it...
I've been thinking about this as well. What I believe causes the difficulty is that puzzles that teach game mechanics are designed specifically with the intent to convey emotions to the player, and the puzzles are also often integral to the game's story (as in Baba is You and Can of Wormholes). Generating such puzzles would be just as hard as generating meaningful literature, since they have to be coherent with an overall structure in addition to being novel on their own. Frankly, I still think that the puzzles described in this video are meaningful in their own way, since they provide atmosphere and an 'illusion of design' to the game's world. I particularly like the open-ended river puzzle, since the dams interact with each other in interesting ways, which helps prevents the player from finding a simple formula which solves any problem of a given type (which might become an issue with the torch puzzle).
@@settergren938 Cool, I want then to make some points about free puzzles. I think strict puzzles are one of the most mature game genres today (top 2, beside logic competetives), love it. But also recently I started thinking about art in general and returning to puzzles, I thought "What a hubris you need to have, to make hundreds of people retrace your exact mental path in this particular interactive system. It kinda assumes that you know what is the most interesting and valuable about the system." What's the alternative? You make a complex system, you teach the basics in the best way possible and then you let go of the player. Do not set the upper bound on their progress, let them explore the rules at their pace in their chosen direction. Procedural generation is about it. Over time it abstracts mind from details and shows the system itself.
Hello, speaker here. I agree with your points here. This Moondrop's puzzles are meant to be small challenges rather than any sort of 'storytelling' puzzles which evoke emotions or those moments of deep insight. (Credit to Nat Alison for the storytelling idea - I think you'd really enjoy her Rogulike Celebration talk "In Defense of Hand Crafted Sudoku": ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rcIVCrddozQ.html.) Puzzle games like Monster's Expedition or the Witness are fantastic, but they are a different breed than procedural-generated roguelikes. They aren't meant to be replayed the same number of times. Different constraints. For Moondrop, the focus of the puzzle section isn't puzzle-solving, but rather exploration. The puzzles are things you can encounter, but I've seen playtesters not even realize that certain puzzles are puzzles. (I mean, the mazes and such are obvious, but some are more subtle.) And once you realize there's something there, you have to figure out what to do with it. Once you've learned the mechanics of each puzzle, then further repetitions give you something to do, but you've exhausted the "a-ha" moments of the puzzle. At the same time, the variety of initial conditions often means you can't just solve these on autopilot either.
