This does try to fix problems with the script. I call it an "expositionship." Rather than showing the two characters falling in love the writers lazily tell us via exposition that it went down in-between movies. This way they can lower her screen time for more action. My solution? Cut the Penny sub-plot entirely. She can be removed without impacting the story at all.
thanks for this video, payback is one of my favourite ever films but i've never seen the directors cut... infact I'm struggling to think where I could watch it... I must find out
Based on the Chicago Outlaws who originated in McCook, IL then moved to Chicago. They did ride a lot out into the country - suburban, Wisconsin and then later around the midwest and more. I think Comer did a great job with the accent.
Dude I love this movie!! First saw it on cable and the second or third time it was on cable as half of a double matinee on my day off with the modern version of Get Carter; I was in movie heaven! Had no idea there was a newer cut but I’m not sure if I’d want to see it. Maybe at some point…
My favorite film director all his films just take me to another realm. His work says so much about humanity like no other director . I wish to work with him one day .
Why the hell is everyone saying the theatrical cut is better? It has a lame ending and that blue color filter sucks. The theatrical cut is a lame ass Hollywood ending. I thought people liked ambiguous endings that are darker, not this lame crap
@@KyleCorwith I’ve seen the Theatrical Cut a few times since it first opened. It’s good; nothing inherently wrong with it and still very enjoyable. But when I saw the Director’s Cut I was floored. Dark and uncompromising in its moral ambiguity. It wasn’t interested in making Porter likable or even relatable and I like that. Watching the TC after the DC all the studio/focus group cuts and additions to make the film more general audience friendly stick out like a sore thumb. The added narration, making sure the dog is shown alive, the kidnapping subplot, explosive climax, etc, all add a shiny “fun” veneer to an otherwise grimy picture. Much like ‘The Killers’ (‘66) or ‘Point Blank’ (‘67) or ‘This Gun For Hire’ (‘42) or ‘Blood Simple’ (‘84) the DC isn’t interested in a big commercial happy ending. Helgeland spins his old-school narrative populated with rotten characters with an economy of brutal purpose. As much as I love ‘L.A. Confidential’ (‘97) it ends on an upbeat note that never seemed to fit. The Director’s Cut of ‘Payback’ doesn’t compromise like that. I appreciate that artistic purity and for that it’s the only version of the film I own on Blu-ray.
Yazz!! We love Spencer. He's talented. ..but at the same time.. i mean.. can Gladiator 2 match with it's predecessor? Dunno. *I like Paul Mescal btw. Just thought Spencer should have the role. Let's see where this sequel is heading. Perhaps the production knows what they're doing.*
@@ainahmad8300 You make a good point. It’s just that if I were in his shoes, a chance to keep the role would be fair. I mean, did Ridley call him up and break news at least? Did he even give him a chance to audition? These are the wonderings that come up.
Is babby upset that one film in a million doesn't feature patriarchal dominance? If you want that why not go and watch literally any other film rather than crying over the fact that this one is (allegedly) suppressing your (fragile) masculinity? Boo x
@@jossthemorfitt You need to pay closer attention to what is said in the video. Making men the butt of some jokes is funny, but beyond that, it’s when there’s no comedy and only demonstrates a demeaning message, while also a paradoxical victim mentality when it comes to the women/Barbies. Pay attention to the nuances next time, dude.
@@KyleCorwith I have watched all his films except To The Wonder and I love his impressionist style. I think that he is able to capture something transcendental through it that wouldn't be possible otherwise. But I also understand why it not might work for many people. It's like if it hits you it gets really deep and if it doesn't it can be frustrating. For me, it hits everytime.
This is one of my all time top three or four most impactful films of all time. Through the film the filmmaker strips away all the extraneous details of our experience one by one until at the end we're left with only the single critical feature of our very existence. It's sad that I find this to be one of the films hardly worth talking about, because it seems most people aren't impacted by this the way I am. I suppose we all have different backstories and values and perception.
Very nice review, Kyle. I appreciate yours. Your perspective and attention to detail shows your level of familiarity with the subject matter, your research and your life in the geographical area and with these types of "characters." Thanks very much. I'm subscribed.
11:12 I was very VERY impressed when I saw that the set designer or whomever got that pre-safety glass moment correct. Bennie punches the drivers side window of that pickup and it broke up into sheet glass. Which, pre-code, would really do lethal damage in an accident.
@@KyleCorwithPLEASE : Hello, why does Kathy want Benny to stop the motorcycle and the vandals Please, why does she want Benny to stop the motorcycle and the vandals Because we see 2 people in the bar without taking Benny for his jacket Why did they attack him and beat him up How did he end up in hospital And why Kathy said Benny is uncontrollable but uncontrollable on what Benny he them And how he did to join the Vandals Benny because in the trailer we see Kathy being attacked by bikers wearing Vandals jackets And why are they attacking Kathy and Benny the Vandals Chicago guys because we see Kathy say to Johnny it's mine you'll never have it what did they mean when she said it's mine you'll never have it So what would happen if Benny left the Vandals Club and got out of his Gang What would the other members of the Club and Johnny do to him if Benny left them all Thank you for your answers
Maybe. I just would’ve liked to have seen an effort, even if they did a digital composite to include, say the Chi-town skyline, at least, for a movie that is directly set in that place. I mean, their jackets sport “Chicago” on their emblem patches! 😄
Agreed, the texture of film is far more cinematic to look at and instantly makes you remember why movies used to be these special events to get hyped about. The quality difference was really noticeable to me a few years back when suddenly watching A Quiet Place 2 and No Time to Die in close succession after watching so many endless, bland, digital movies that came out since it became the main shooting format around 2013 / 2014. So it definitely makes me appreciate how Jeff Nichols, Nolan, Shyamalan, Guadagnino, PTA and Eggers are making the effort to continue shooting with it. I totally get that digital can help save on budget and number of shoot days required (and for some studios is mandatory like with Netflix for example) but digital just has such a forgettable, throwaway look that makes you feel indifferent about whether you can make time for a movie or not. Then you have those people claiming that you can only notice the difference if you see it projected on film which is complete BS because if you watch any scene from any movie ever shot on 16mm or 35mm here on youtube (even 'The Bikeriders' or 'Challengers' from this year) or any camera test from some youtuber using these formats to make a comparison video, it's such a stark contrast with film obviously having that more classic / cinematic visual appeal, even if I still like some movies that were shot digitally (Hell or High Water, Arrival, Copshop, Green Book, Dragged Across Concrete) thanks to all the other filmmaking elements just working so well to help you look past it.
Purists might say that we won’t get the “true” exhibition of celluloid if it is not projected on film, but I agree with you. You certainly CAN see those differences on a digital projection. Well stated!
That makes sense since Miller has mentioned how Max has paralleled a ronin. The thing I still take issue with is that it grows through vital organs for years, which is not realistic for a human to survive. Also, that it’s out of tone with the grittiness of the rest of the franchise.
Oh, love me some views too-believe me! But the wondering I get is: am I chosing movies/TV shows that have the best potential to enrich my viewing experience, or am I saturating my time with hate-watching things?
@@KyleCorwith original Star Wars A New Hope :) sorry I forgot to add the 1977 date. Was myself, my best friend, sister and mother at the Uptown Theater in Washington, DC. Never been back to see another movie at that theater.
Both versions of Payback are overall pretty good, but this raises a more interesting question than which one is better. If you were to make a movie, release two versions with slight differences, and arbitrarily assigned one at random as the director's cut that represents your original vision before studio suits got a hold of it would "real movie fans" like us just accept it as superior regardless of quality?
