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My left ear enjoyed this video. This made me think about how odd I am. I don’t think I’ve really ever driven a car newer than about 2012 or so. In December I got my 1982 88 petrol, and it’s the most comfortable (for me) vehicle I ever owned. I just feel right driving it. I mostly got my driving chops in a Triumph Herald so this is a natural evolution for me. I freak out in really new cars because I need to be driving a machine, not a computer. I mean, I’m good with computers but they don’t belong on the road IMO. My partner drives a 2007 Benz E class which I can put up with if I have to, but the steering wheel is so small and chubby! I guess I was just brought up different lol 😂
Yeah, sorry about the sound. I suck at the filming and audio part of this. But I am much better now. And man, I am SO WITH YOU on steering wheels. I was just telling my 16 year old son, who loved small, fat steering wheels how much I prefer 17" spindly, skinny-rimmed ones. Hahaha! When I had my Lancia I fitted a Nardi Anna 60, and absolutely LOVED IT.
@@paulmisencik I let my partner drive the LR today and he was complaining about how the steering wheel hurt his hands 😂 I always want a giant, triangle-profile bakelite three-spoke or it’s just not real driving. He calls it “Armstrong” steering. I also love that my elbows almost touch the steering wheel when my hands are at 10 and 2, it’s so close to the seat. Just got a discount on oil today too so I’m a happy Landy driver!
@@paulmisencik LOL Hi Paul, thank you, I own 2 Santana's a Series 3 88 and a 2500 DL. I notice you use GY Wrangler MT's, but those are not available in the USA. Do you ever put 245 75 16's or 265 75 16's on Series 3 88 or on the 2500's? or those sizes don't work as well.
@@DavidCapurso They rub without spacers or suspension lift, and I am not 100% wild about either on Series rigs. I can be a little "soup nazi-ish" about the aesthetics, and I can be painfully inflexible when it comes to certain things. And, by the way... I know this doesn't make me right. It's just my opinion, and there is a saying about opinions and what they're like. Hahaha! But 235/85-16 is what I fit. Pretty much always. That may change in the future. Who knows?
@@paulmisencik Thanks so much! just has seen so many put 265 75 16 on Santana 6.5 rims on 2500DL's so thought it would be ok to fit that size tire on a 2500 DL (Defender style Santana) without rubbing since the wheels seem to be further out compared to the Santana 2.5 BDL that has the wheels inside the body.
Thank you for the history. Do you have similar history of the Santana through a more current period? I own a 2006 PS10 Anabel, purchased in Costa Rica. I currently have only 94k kilometers and am interested in selling it and would like to have the background story.
Did you know our beloved Series Land Rover will leave you stranded in the bush if the freaking alternator dash light burn out. You heard that right, unless you replaced your old bulb with a lED and parallel resistor the alternator will stop working when the bulb burn out. What's worse is you won't even know until it stops or won't start. Like the Willys, it had it's time, but now unless you have a "remanufactured" one, it's a VERY old car. Also compared to modern cars it's extremely unsafe. No airbags and surrounded metal crap everywhere making it a very risky car the modern life. I loved my s2, but came to realize it was a useless glorified paperweight. Collectors value good, practical value almost zero. You could drive any car every day if you don't care about safety keeping up all the repairs on a 50+ year old car. Even as a Collectors item, I think it days are numbered, young people today have no ideas what this thing is, could care less unless grandfather had one. Not to mention those near right angle seats were killing my back! I know it's sacrilegious right? But seriously, it's just a bad romance now and way past it time.
I’m a hardtop guy, but I may remove the roof this spring just for fun. Here in central California the summer can get pretty hot. Paul, would you have any contact info where I can get build and shipping information on my 1966 S2A. Thanks Lance
@@paulmisencik It’s a Solihull built vehicle. I’ve been trying to find out where it was originally shipped to and what equipment it had at that time. ( it has a hard top now but may have been shipped from the factory with a soft top as it has tailgate mount points) I have not been able to find factory contact information.
Okay, then I believe you can order a “Heritage Certificate” from the British Motor Museum. I’m not sure what information they’ll have from that era, but they’re the ones who handle Land Rover historical data.
Beautifully done! I’ve been watching all your videos and I am impressed with the work you’re doing on these lovely cars 👌🏼I’ve had many Land Rovers, old and new (not the disgusting really new ones), and my heart yearns once again, for a Series 3.
Thanks you! And thanks for watching! I hope you’re enjoying life in my youngest son’s dream location…. Lol! He is hitting me up all the time to take him to Hawaii!
That’s true. And the south of France! But it would work just as well on Nantucket or Hilton Head, too. You can’t drive one and not grin. Thanks for watching!
@@paulmisencik. My wife and I were over in Spain south of Barcelona in the fall of 2023, there was one these parked in front of the hotel we were staying each day. Every time I saw it, I couldn’t help but to smile. Great videos, keep making them. Thanks
I appreciate the encouragement! And if you ever make it back over here, look me up! I always have interesting things you can borrow to run around in for a bit!
Great Video! This really helps with my benchmarking. I have a 1984 300GD W460 LWB manual... ..with a W124 donated OM603 engine and automatic box being fitted this month. Great to see the detailing of how to do the interior. This helps my discussion with our mechanic for the interior change from Manual to Automatic. Best wishes from Malaysia!
Paul, this is by far the most informative detailed information on the topic. I found you for being in the market and finding a 1988 Santana, however, i'm not sure how to distinguish if it's a 2500 model? That information is not forthcoming in the sale description although it indicates by your breakdown of differences particularly in the fenders being a sharp drop and rounded not flared out like Defender. It is a 2.5 Liter 4 cylinder diesel engine and LT77 (not sure what that is) manual transmission that i'm considering. Oddly enough, the 1978 Santana series III you have posted is cheaper than the 1988 i'm looking at now. I wouldn't want to assume even this year base model is a 2500, can you assist with how to distinguish between just a 1988 Santana LR base model if there is such thing to a 2500 model? greatly appreciated and becoming a follower of your site. thank you for your clear presentation! all the best from an active off road LR fanatic! Mary
I currently own an ex British army series 3 109 2286cc petrol and I love it. It's slow but at a graceful level and there is absolutely no creature comforts, it's great.
So funny you mention this, because I was sorta halfway thinking about making an updated version of this video, or a "Version 2," four years on or whatever, and the first car that came to my mind was the Lancia 2000 Coupé! Such an underrated gem. Thanks for watching!
The Pug 504, the Fiat 130 (with electronics and engine swap) , the BMW, and the Matra look promising here in The States compared to the Lancia! Haha…. I watched the Old Top Gear’s Botswana Special!
Yes, a significant chunk of people feel this way, and the number has grown over the the last three years or so. Ten years ago, Santana was a bad word in. some circles (mostly in the USA) due to misinformation and a misunderstanding of what the company had built over the years. But now people are more educated and there is more Santana pride in ownership. That makes me happy, because Santanas are great vehicles. But at the end of the day, I build what my customers request. They are the designers, and they get to choose colors, materials, details, wheels, grilles, everything. This customer wanted a Defender look. But it will make you happy to know I just delivered a fully-built-out-but-proudly-Santana-badged-and-detailed-rig for a super nice guy in the USA. It's happening more and more.
Another excellent video Paul thank you. I've noticed on the 2500 range there is a super turbo option how does this compare to the stock 2500? I believe on these vehicles 100 kmh is absolute top speed and noisy. Does the super turbo give a more refined ride? I also wonder if you have any experience of the cazorla? What is the gearing like on this vehicle and how does it ride? I'm really torn between a late series 3 with overdrive and the 2500. I can see plus points in them both particularly the classic styling in the old series 3. Whilst I understand that this is personal preference I wonder if you have any insights between these two and the cazorla?
The Super Turbo was a "Series IIIA" model, and not a 2500. It is basically a turbocharged 2.25L diesel, not terribly dissimilar to what Land Rover later did with the 19J, except 2.25L instead of 2.5L. And like the 19J it's not a bad engine, but relatively unloved. These were early days for turbocharging, and VERY early days for turbocharging diesels. They are not known for being refined or reliable, but they do make more power, and if they are well taken car of there is nothing too much to worry about. IN general, I think a Series III is almost always a better bet for most people than a Series IIIA is, whether turbocharged or not.
@@paulmisencik Thank you once again. I was under the impression that a Series IIIa was a 2500. My mistake. Was the IIIa shaped as a Series III or like the 2500?
@@rewildingbushcraft9406 This gets a little complicated, especially because Santana never called anything a "Series IV." But they DID call something a "Series IIIA," and the IIIA is the Series trucks built immediately after the license agreement with Land Rover ended. 1983 through about 1986. Series IIIA's can be identified by their roll up windows (instead of the Series III split, sliding windows) and door pulls integrated into the door panels. They also had updated dashboards with slightly different gauges and with rocker switches instead of toggles. Some of the IIIA's were "big window" vehicles with no vents underneath the windscreen. But they had 2.25L Series III engines, 4-speed transmissions, recessed grilles like the earlier Series III and they did NOT have fender extensions. (There was also a "Super Turbo" model of the IIIA.) After the IIIA, Santana sold the "2.5" models, which were called "2.5DC" for short wheelbase and "2.5DL" for long wheelbase models. These had flat grilles like the later 2500, 2.5L engines, 5-speed gearboxes, but still no fender extensions. 2.5's were sold from about 1985 through 1988. (There was also a Super Turbo version of the 2.5, which was essentially a precursor to the Solihull 19J engine.) After all these? Then the 2500 models came.
@@paulmisencikas ever, very helpful responses. So I'm wondering how the Cazorla fits into all this, and what your opinions on it are. I'm currently looking at a nice one from 1987.
@@rewildingbushcraft9406 The Cazorla story might be too long to type here, but I'll try to hit the high points. The Cazorla was a 6-cylinder model that Santana introduced around 1982 (when the license to build Series III's was ending) and it used the Santana-only 6-cylinder diesel engine that they had designed and fitted to select 109's earlier. (It's a fantastic engine, actually. Basically a 2.25L diesel with two more cylinders grafted on, it's smooth as silk and torquey.). The Cazorla also had a flat grille and rectangular headlamps, so it's, uhhh... distinctive looking. (I find them ugly. Sorry!) Most of the other bits were various late Series III stuff. I think overdrive and power steering were standard and I'm pretty sure they came with heavy duty driveshafts and axels, which can be tough to find these days. And although the engine is reliable and most internal parts can be found, the accessories like power steering pumps and such are essentially no longer available, so keeping a Cazorla running long-term can require some resourcefulness. But it easier in Spain than it is in other countries, that's for sure.
Proud owner of a '74 Marine Blue 88" S3 with Roamerdrive here. This car has soul, personality and feistyness like no other. Is it hard to drive? Yes, and I love it for that. It's engaging, whereas not much else on the road is. What a flat-out honest review you give here. Bravo! :)
Hello how are you thanks for a good video . I want ask you How many kilometers does a Land Rover Serie 3 consume with 20 liters of gasoline? And with my respect to you
Hello how are you thank you for a good vedio i want ask you How many kilometers does a Land Rover Serie 3 consume with 20 liters of gasoline? And full me respect to you .
Lovely restoration. I have a couple of questions, the location of the spare tyre mount, hood or rear door, is there a practical preferential position or is it down to aesthetics? Secondly, would all series III Santanas from 79 onwards be the longer legged gear ratios? or only those with overdrive? Thanks in advance.
Yes, the 1979 models would be the longer gearing. And as for the spare wheel, there are pros and cons to each, but generally speaking I think the rear door mount makes more practical sense. When the spare is mounted on the bonnet, the bonnet becomes exceedingly heavy, and opening it starts to approach a two-person job. Also, visibility is a little obscured and folding down the windscreen can be a little less convenient (although this isn’t much of an issue and wouldn’t be a bother on a 5-door station wagon.) The weight of the spare wheel doesn’t do the rear door hinges any favors either, but overall, the rear door mount have fewer drawbacks for fewer people. That said, the bonnet mount is sexy looking. And rakish style is a big reason for driving a Series III in the first place. So I would counsel anyone to do what they want. Make the truck fun FOR YOU.
@@paulmisencik thank you for the very helpful response. I think that I agree with you on all the points, The styling is definitely there for the bonnet location but practically the rear door is clearly better. The roof rack best of all but least cool and least accessible! As for the weight I really get that as I drive an older l322 range Rover I'm just moving the spare tire out of the boot is a major operation! With regard to the longer gearing what sort of speed top speed that is, could you expect around 90-100kmh? I also think I asked on another video about your views on the super turbo 2500 and if you had any experience of driving the Cazorla?
A perfect description of why we love them. I drove series 2as for years and recently bought a series one to relive my youth. Just loving it. Even the missus is starting to get! Noisy, slow, smelly and uncomfortable - just like me she said!
Acabo de descubrir el canal, supongo que RU-vid me recomendó tras ver los videos de syncar. El trabajo de sus land rovers es increíble, por favor queremos nuevos videos para este 2024 🤙🏻🤙🏻
