I remember when Louis did this I instantly thought "wtf, is that wrong?" and immediately asked the girl sitting across from me if she was uncomfortable.She said no, and now I still don't get it.
"An objectional, or even, a good comic" sounds like the same timing as "they were wearing listening devices, call them hearing devices, and wigs . . . ."
I always loved Norm, but this shows what a deeply compassionate and intelligent and kind and sincere as well as courageous man he is. I love you, Norm.
Im still pissed that the greatest working artist was canceled and abandoned by everyone. The crime? Consensually jerking off in front of people. This guy was a writter producer, actor. Comedian, director. The only modern comedian that achieved maga success without needing the Joe Rogan boost. The way that group turned their back on him, I truly believe that pack of mediocre Comedians were jelious of his talent.
People got offended because instead of having sex with women he jerked off in front of them. People get offended at everything these days and this is several years ago now it's just gotten worse.
Nope! Norm thought nothing of Louis' so-called "crimes.'' Cornering a lady in a room and whacking off in front of her? I can totally imagine Norm saying "Hey Louis! Stop stealing my moves!" Love the man - RIP
norm mcdonald, they greatest celebrity human being ever. nevermind his comedy as he was and will be one of the most innovative comics of his time....and I am guessing he will hold that title for years to come. The onus is on other current comics to pass on his legacy and let the next generation know how great norm was as a comic....more importantly, as a person.
Kevin is also a FANTASTIC actor. His performances are genuine, clear, crisp, and it's obvious that he truly respects the entire process of both filmmaking and entertainment. Anyone who has had the pleasure of working with him would probably concur.
I've got a lot of time for Norm MacDonald but I disagree with him sometimes. In this case I 100% disagree. Louis CK wasn't charged he didn't face criminal prosecution. I don't know how you can hear what his victims experienced and felt and decide Louis needs sympathy. He's a predator and he sexually abused people from a position of power. To ask what are the rules? What are the rules for the victims. Can they say they've experienced justice. Louis CK is a millionaire who literally won a grammy for best comedy album where he downplays what he did. Why would you feel sympathy for him?
@DeCapitanOG you're such a freak for wanting to defend a guy who chose to beat off in front of women and the "consensual" defense is BS. What exactly did these women get out of it? A rich person with power got these women alone and pulled his dick out. Use your fucking brain
Louie victimized colleagues through power. Not many workplaces would invite someone like that back. It makes for a hostile work environment. Not sure why comedy clubs should have different rules.
This is such an important point. The person who hurt someone (Or many people) has to pay their price and apologize sincerely in order to move on. That person needs to apologize to the people their hurt, though, and no one else. I don't understand why so many unaffected people are demanding cancellation or apologies to them when they are not affected by any decision made after the hurt was caused. It's like the social media warriors think they are the judge, jury, and executioners, when in reality they are just bystanders. We, as unaffected people, can share our opinion, but outside of that, why are we so hung up on enacting our version of justice in a situation that is outside of us? Let the justice system and the people who are genuinely affected do the talking and take action, because they are the ones that can make things right. Not us.
I think the issue is the justice system fails a lot of victims in cases of sexual abuse and assault. Sometimes people need to be loud to make change. Doesn't mean they're always right but sometimes being silent is being complicit
@@benjackhenry I understand, but this type of mob mentality is exactly why a lot of innocent black men were arrested, tried, and sentenced to death for many decades of America's history. When one person makes a wild accusation, it can destroy the accused's life, autonomy, and meaning. We have seen that dozens of times the past twenty years. Sure, many bad people have also been caught, which is great, but I would argue that more good or decent people have been wrongly accused than bad people getting their comeuppance. Now, sure, it is important for the public to share their voices when the accusation is clear, but when it is purely hearsay, how can someone on the internet 100% invest in something they have absolutely no connection to? How are we sure the accuser or accused aren't lying? How are we to judge from so far on the outside fairly? Well, that's because we can't. This level of extreme judgment and desire to enact punishment makes the public worse than the already corrupt justice system, and that is precisely my point.
"If the audience don't like him, then the club won't book him." Anyone who agrees with this statement but doesn't agree with "cancel culture" is a hypocrite, or just simple.
The difference is, felons legitimately can’t find jobs and Louis CK has never stopped doing shows for longer than a few months. He’s been successful even after he was “cancelled” he just isn’t doing the numbers that he was He’s still very successful and isn’t struggling to find gigs or feed himself.
My heart definitely does not “break” for Louis CK… he’s just another entertainer that none of us will never meet. You think CK would have stopped at just doing his selfish non consensual creepy stuff?? Uh no, if he were never caught we all know where he would’ve taken things. People and their dumb celebrity worship
@@Handl3sAreStupid yes! Some creepy, unsolicited, rape-y stuff. Which he fully admitted to. But if I’m wrong, please, enlighten me. I am open minded, but I also have my own personal Character judgements.
@@maxbouvatte Well you specifically called it out as non consensual, when he asked permission before doing his weird creepy stuff. I'm not saying that makes it right, but it does make you wrong.
@@Handl3sAreStupid you should look into what he actually did and admitted to doing ,it’ll take about 30 seconds… what that dude did was definitely, more often than not, completely unwanted and ultimately very damaging to the other person. I am totally not trying to convince you that you shouldn’t admire/ enjoy / defend this guy for what he did… you can of course have whatever preference and taste you have. I just personally don’t respect or care for entertainers / politicians / people that do that sort of thing to other people. There’s plenty of other great content out there that isn’t made by d bags.
@Handl3sAreStupid if a man corners a woman and she can't escape and then asks if they can have sex, is that asking for permission? Try and have some empathy for the victims and you'll understand why "asking for permission," is a really pitiful excuse and why it matters more what how the victims feel than the abuser's confused reality
When it comes down to it, it's just a case of one person choosing to do something bad and it's up to you to choose something good (forgiving and letting go - all within reason)
This is a shit argument. Making the point about a murder who goes to jail vs a guy who got caught 20 years after what he did (he had all that time to apologise and face the music but didn't) is obviously not the same thing. Norm only defends him with such a weak argument because its Louie.
I couldn't believe how clueless whoever was interviewing him was at first, trying to talk over him. Thank god Norm shooshed him so he could lay out his screed.
Lucky for you deepthroaters out there louis didnt stop performing and he wasnt ever canceled. He's still filling rooma and touring. Kinda living breathing proof that cancel culture actually isnt a thing.
