AM I NOT TRYING ENOUGH???? THE INFO I GAVE THEM WAS 500 WORDS LONG

ISN'T THAT ACCURATE GENSHIN!!??? DAM I THOUGHT THEY WOULD ACCEPT MY FORM IF I WAS CLOSE, EHM I ALREADY PUT IN THE INFO WHEN I GOT THOSE CHARACTERS 😢😢😢

@@hua.. i respect your opinion but i slightly disagree. However this is a very subjective topic so im not saying your opinions wrong, just different from mine. I think genshin doesnt necessarily have a better early game but it had a better “hook”. The open world felt huge when you first start out, and since it was like THE open world gacha on release, and didnt have any competition, it felt fresh. HSR on the other hand just had a much more compelling story and the first boss fight comes early and felt more “epic”. And yeah, HI3 gets a pass lol. You might be right that it has the best introduction out of any hyv game, but i think the game comes at a time where theres too much competition with other gacha games which is why maybe it feels underwhelming. Thanks for the comment and opinion. I will also join you in ending yourself if i get another 30 min investigation commission.

@@mugen1119 issue is that people think the combat is braindead because after 10 hours of gameplay, it feels the same, and its hard to argue with that point because i was one of those people

@@BaoPham2 yep 100% and some people just dont have the time to get to the fun part. Totally valid for them to view it as braindead, maybe they will change the new player experience after our feedback so people can give zzz another try.

@@OfficialNeonScratch the TV mode wouldn't be that bad if it weren't for the fact that some quests are like exclusively tv mode. I think most people downloaded zzz for the combat, and that goes for me too

It's ultimately just a game for casuals. Whenever I see ppl comparing it to DMC or Bayonetta, it's just people saying that those are complex games and this isn't. I don't think anyone who likes the game is actually comparing it to those games

The comparison are the mechanics specifically used in fighting games such as meter that gets built up to use a more power version of a skill that they quite literally called EX Skills. Same as in street fighter. The fact that the enemy can get a Happy Birthday or a Merry Christmas on your teammates when you do a poor sub (teammates being vulnerable to dmg during switch tech) are almost exclusive, and traditional, to fighting games. They literally have a moves list also seen in fighting games. As well as a training room that functions fundamentally like a fighting game training, only with limited options. The character select screen is reminiscent as well. I don’t think anyone who looked at ZZZ compared its “complexity” to actual fighting games because ZZZ isn’t that deep. It just shares specific mechanics and terms majorly used in fighting games.

The game is a 3d brawler, a beat'em up. Like Final fight, Double Dragon, and the like. Many of the terms get used in other genere than fighting games. Some gimmick meters being build up have a thing in a ton of games. Many JRPGs have gimmicks where a character may build a ex meter to do a large attack... like say a "limit break". Anyone thinking ZZZ has anything akin to a fighting game is an idiot. ZZZ is more akin to a Musou/Dynasty Warriors lite. Run around killing multiple guys, have some special moves, its flashy,

If y'all want the most direct comparison, face it. ZZZ is basically Sword Art Online to a tee.

@@sparhawk2195 Please hit read more on my comment.

@@Mo.21669 use a different email

@BaoPham2 they replied and did like you did in the video, but I don't have the receipt I included the date of my first purchase but I can't submit it without a photo of the the receipt purchase what should I do

yeah I just have a really big issue with the early game, and I think ZZZ has one of the largest "tried the game but quit early on" playerbases, so they unfortunately don't get to reach the mid-end game like us and see that there's a lot more to the game

It would be nice to see what the endgame looks like from an earlier point, Honestly I think the "challenge" mode should just be juiced a fair bit. Its an op in mode so I don't see why they left it so easy.

exactly my point as well. Challenge mode is not challenging at all, and it just feels like a slog.

I recovered my account three months ago and now it has been hacked But they refuse to return it to me again, and I think the reason is that I forgot the last day I logged into the account Is there a solution? Is this information really likely to hinder the recovery of the account?

@@shiro4993 1. Game 2. Never@linked or smth like that 3. Change email

@@BaoPham2 thankyou so much!

@@BaoPham2 Hey another question. when i first started playing genshin my pc did not have any graphics card.. so what do i fill in that place? (in my DEVICE MANAGER its showing Intel (R) HD graphics In the display adapters... should i just mention that?

use a different email

@@BaoPham2 I used to different ones should I use another?

@@duckedout5479 make a new email and try again.

@@lostdrink9491 i think variation. The combat doesnt get much different unless u unlock new characters, and even then, its still fundamentally very similar between characters

@@BaoPham2 yes and also the lack of variation of enemy attack. They could made some un parry able so maybe dodge could be utilized more, or maybe shorten parry timing when certain attack occur, Because right now people just use their parry as easy get away.

​@@yeeywthere is literally the red light attack which cant be parried so you have dodge counter it

@@BaoPham2 I too have reached the same assessment, it's marketed as something it's not cut out to be, the game is preety good as a casual game

It's his opinion why are u mad even Marisa hasn't even said his opinion he just playing.

@@sayidash1583 by that logic, since I've been playing honkai impact since 2018, you should trust me more. Anyways yeah it's my own opinion, why are you weighing mine vs. his?

I think this is an interesting theory, hopefully they improve upon the combat and not make it locked behind character mechanics.

thats fair. Wuwa is so badly optimized even for PC, but even more so phones. I have the newest android chip (snapdragon 8 gen 3) and I got my phone in February of this year and I still can only run WuWa at like 40 fps

@@kenamii thank you for pointing these things out! I havent gotten to that stage of the game yet, but i think that ultimately hoyoverse needs to do a better job at optimizing the early game if thats the case, because imo (and many others), the early game feels like one huge 10 hour tutorial

as a DMC fan myself (ive played all of em except 2), i was also a little bit disheartened.

i mean you can literally see me timing my autos on soldier 11 in the video. I'm very aware of the differences in gameplay between these characters but the fact is that it doesn't feel like im doing much to break the monotony of mostly basic attacking.

@@BaoPham2 And that's a fair opinion to Have it just feels bias to say that the game has non of these mechanics, when you are just simply not fully using them. Maybe its because I mainly use ellen who has to mix up with dash attacks but I so far haven't felt the Gameplay was monotonous because I had options other then spamming left click. edit: If you had said that I probably wouldn't have had an issue at all but it just annoyed me that you completely ignored it.

@@logicseye4107 but I'm literally using the mechanics that are given to me? If they lock fun behind Ellen, how does that make the game as a whole good? The game as a whole should be good no matter what characters you have. I'm trying to the utmost of my ability to use soldier 11's timed attacks as well as Lycaon's charged attacks. There's just not enough mechanics to make this game a true "combat" game. Have you played DMC or HI3? Those are true combat games. The reason I ignored it is because those mechanics are character locked, and those mechanics (afaik) are locked behind Ellen, soldier 11, and maybe Ben's parry. Charged attack is not a notable enough mechanic that should be mentioned. Infact, every character should have a charged attack. That's literally a standard in HI3, WuWa, Genshin, why not this game? here's my point, how are you gonna market this a combat game and have less combat mechanics than WuWa or genshin impact? It's fine if you enjoy the combat, but the aforementioned mechanics you mentioned are character locked, and now that I've unlocked Ellen, yes the game's more fun, but the game's enjoyabiliy shouldn't increase by like 200% because I got the new gacha character. That just makes the game paywalled, and character unique mechanics does not contribute to the universal combat system which is what I'm more concerned with. If you're annoyed with me ignoring character specific mechanics, I'm sorry, but I don't think it's fair to lock a majority of the game's fun behind the newest banner character. I also don't think it makes sense to mention character specific mechanics when imo, it doesn't improve the game's universal combat system, and it seems like ellen is really the only one that has a kit that deviates a significant amount from the combat that everyone else has to work with. And the biggest reason I don't mention this is because it doesn't change the gameplay much for me. This is my own review and my own experience, and at least soldier 11's special timed attacks or Lycaon's charged attack doesn't change the universal flaws of the combat system enough for me to mention it. Character specific mechanics are just not worth mentioning cause they're just an extension to left click gameplay

​@@BaoPham2 I'm probs not going to respond more after this because I think we simply just do not agree. First Yes I did play hi3rd for about 5~6 ish months I can't remember exactly but I started around Hof and I know I got silverwing before I quit. (I quit because bluestacks is an ass, and while I did redownload it when 7.1 came about the Ui gave me a headache and I gave up) Second this might be petty but in the whole video I didn't see you use a Lycaon Charge attack a single time ('to the Utmost of my ability') the reason I assumed you didn't know soldiers mech was because honestly when I first played her I thought it was just random unless you had her exskill like hsr's sushang. And I do agree with you when the enemy is recovering from stun and after you have used most of your burst you do just basic attack alot and most characters have nothing interesting to do with their basics, I just feel like we have had different experiences because at least against large enemies i mentally separate the fights into 2 sections the parry and regen energy stage and the stunned burst stage and in neither of these do i feel like you primarily auto, idm man maybe I'm just wrong about this. Like I went and played ellen intentionally not using her dash attacks and I don't feel like the gameplay devolves into just auto spamming. Maybe I'm a simple person and like the loud ding of the parry.

@@logicseye4107 you're right that I wasnt playing correctly in the video, and I decided to invest a few hours into learning the core of the combat, and I think I still stand by my point that the combat is still not complex enough (although there is more to the combat than I initially said). We can agree to disagree, and I think I've found a middle ground where I've realized there's more to this game that can't be found within the first 8 hours or so, but thank you for your comments. I think comments like yours have helped me research deeper into the combat. I stand by my review that this is meant more for casuals than HI3 but I could maybe see myself enjoying it at least in the late game

What do you mean? You can only use one ultimate once you hit 3k points

@@BaoPham2 oh you mean the cutscene parts. Since the chain attack animations are their ultimate animations i thought you meant that.

Maybe I might, I have a lot of thoughts on the combat considering how I've seen honkai impact's combat went from something similar to this to something a lot more complex

Yes that's why this is an early review, and I will do an end game review. The issue is that a game should try to draw you in, and the excuse "the game gets better after x hours" is not valid to me, because I think a game should HAVE To draw you in. I shouldn't be playing this game with the expectation of having fun after x hours, I should be having fun at the start. Energy recharge shouldn't be a needed stat to make the combat more interactive in the early game

@@BaoPham2I absolutely agree with you. The “its fun after x hours” cope already happened in other game (diablo 4 cough cough*) it shouldn’t be like this Personally it felt like zzz introducing the mechanic too slow and soft, probably to get more casuals and newcomer of the genre to play. But it is very boring to play if you are a average gamers. Anyway As a player that reached lv 36 the boss fight is actually fun especially the ballet sister. A peek into what this game could be

1. No, but that shouldn't matter. A game should be fun from the start. I shouldn't have to put in x hours to finally start enjoying the game. Also this is an early review 2. NA and I do have an alt on SEA

@@BaoPham2 Considering genshin 1.0 was a snooze and yapfest of a story and hi3 is a gigantic yapfest until chapter 8.... and also looking at WuWas story being trash UNTIL jiyans chapter, then it picks up. ZZZ is just establishing its world like all other games did. Its slow at first, yes, but it picks up quickly in chapter 2, especially past the midway point and just gets more intruiging from there. But thats purely subjective, its slow at start, I agree. Your combat take is throwing me off tho, your skills take too long to recharge? I am throwing out EX skills left and right in abundance and dont even have enough time to fully get rid of my energy. Ultimates are easily 3 times (would be more of i didn't clear combat already at that point). Its about as frequent as in Honkai impact, only difference is that you cant compare a weapon skill with an EX skill. EX skill could be compared more to a burst mode attack than a weapon skill. The difficulty of the story is toned down in normal mode and ramps up in hardmode, real combat is later on in guiding missions, area purge, hollow zero, shiyu, notorious hunts. THIS is where you have to be on your toes. Sidenote: The reason you have no energy recharge is that, in the small pieces of gameplay you show, you are fucking up any semblence of rotations. Not using Lucys Cheer on buff for soldier 11. Not using Lucys Ult to regain 30 energy (EX Skills take too long to charge? Maybe thats why) for Soldier 11. Not using Nekos innate buff by playing hyper agressive with dodge counters into EX skills. Not using Nicoles forced QTE trigger nekomatas switch in skill. You have alot to learn about the combat and inputs. Half your shit is just casul mode without any resemblence of having read the skills. Nicoles Gathering ether field reduces enemy defense, nekos switch in skill has enough AOE to cover the entire bubble, chaining stun gauges of multiple opponents to force trigger multiple chain attacks etc. Also you can switch cancel every single animation in this game, the question just is, do you want to? EX Skills are fully invulnerable, so you can dodge attacks with them and easily apply more dmg. I'm not saying your entire opinion is wrong, until the middle of chapter 2, you can autopilot the game for real, but if you notice how deep every characters abilities and interactions go, there is alot to uncover.

When I made my take on combat, I asked around a lot of people (probably around 15 people) and they all had the same issue with CD's being too long. If you think the current CD's are you throwing out skills, then I think we just have a different perception of time. But I've never seen anyone say the CD's are fast, and I havent seen anyone "throwing out skills left and right". As for the animation cancelling and stuff you're talking about, you're right that I wasn't knowledgable enough to do everything you're saying, but now that I've spent time to learn more about the combat (I'm currently using an ellen team) and have about an additional 6 hours on the game from this video, I still maintain my stance that this game is not complex enough. Maybe I'm just spoiled because I love DMC and HI3, but this is not a combat game. The peak combat of this game is just quick time events. I took your suggestions and tried to learn everything, I've watched other ppl from CBT play end game, and it's just not appealing to me. It's not as easy as I initially made it out to be and I apologize, but I still stand by the fact that it is not nearly on the same level as DMC or HI3, which is what I'd expect from a game that's advertised to be a combat game. You're not wrong that I'm doing everything wrong in this video, but even after I spent a few hours learning the combat, I still stand by these 2 points. 1. It shouldn't take 10 hours+ of play time to get energy recharge to rechage my skills faster. If skills feel slow in the beginning, that's a flawed early game that should be tweaked to be more digestible. 2. This is not a combat game if you compare it to DMC and HI3 3. You're right that my initial impression of combat is very shallow, but that's just how first impressions are. I don't think other people who played the first 8 hours of this game were nearly as knowledgeable either, but I bear a different responsibility since I made a video on it so that's on me. However, I still stand by my stance that this game's mechanics are just not deep enough for a combat game, and there's much more character specific mechanics that go deeper in games like DMC or HI3. But I'd like to apologize for my initial shallow review of the combat, but tbf, its also a first impression and there's a reason I made a promise to play to the end game so that I could give an updated review. Everything you say here will be addressed in a few weeks once I'm at the end game. There's a lot more I wanna say since the more I play this game, the more I realize it has the same flaws as HI3 on release, but I think I'd just be yapping at you at this point so I'll reserve those thoughts unless you really wanna hear them.