Stop saying 'not the best playing', mate. You do it in other vids too, but hey, surprise! We're not here for your playing, we're here to hear those pedals. Having said that: keep them review and comparison videos coming! 🤘 😎🤘
Not very impressed. However, I was highly impressed with their electric drums. Enough that I bought the NU-X DM-7. They sound great. I don't have a lot of experience with electronic drums, so I don't want to influence someone who does and then realize it's not what I said, but if you are in the market for a set, I recommend testing them out.
@@metalprognosis agreed! 👍 I'm old school, so pedal board set up is something I'm learning about, I'm on the tonal hunt, what I've been struggling with is that, any preamp distortion doesn't cut the mustard with my 78 JMP, but without modding it further, I have no options for FX loops. I just got an passive attenuator, I'm hoping this might solve my issues🤞🤘
@@nedesnikderpherder7529 have you thought about using a killer boost pedal to help shape your tone? One of my favourites is the fortin 33, ( or dirty tree - papers pedals).
@@metalprognosis I have a comp/boost and an od/boost, but not a dedicated pedal, the Nux masume boost is hard to dial in and seems like it would work better in an FX loop, but with my vs 100 not working ATM, no FX loop capabilities, so I'm starting to look at a modern valve head, and possibly the Nux amp academy,idk yet, I like the options but I love speakers and tubes, lol I'm getting there🤘
@metalprognosis alright, I'll ruin it! But cheers for the review ❤️ I've been looking to explore the different drop tunings, this might be the best way forward
@@fromfilmtocode I was curious to know, without changing the pedal settings, how much difference in tone is there between the two different methods. Your comment is an awesome indication that there is a large difference, it just comes down to the individuals taste.
@@metalprognosis and our tastes and ears. If we all do ear tests we perceive frequencies differently or even don't hear others at all. Long story short, do you like how something sounds? Get it and just have fun.
@@fromfilmtocode Absolutely! Sound has never been that fragile where you need to microscope frequencies to get things sounding good. We want to sometimes so we can learn and it can be interesting, but it's never been a need.
I've also used the precision drive for boosting an HM-2 clone into a turbo rat, or for dirty boosting something like a Joyo Uzi into the clean channel of my Orange Super Crush. I love using the gain from the precision drive to push an amp or another pedal just a LITTLE BIT harder, especially as you crank the attack mode knob farther clockwise.
@@metalprognosis yup, I have the Demon FX one and the Joyo Argos Drive. I usually use the Joyo on my main board, and use an ABY to send it to the Orange Super Crush and a Joyo Oxford Sound, IR loader, and DI box (I'm not the biggest fan of the XLR out on the Super Crush, so I use that for the IEM mix) I've even used it with bass guitar, run into a Behringer BDI-21, or I'll use the sim of it in Audio Assault Amp Locker/ReAmp 2, as well as the Audiority Dr. Drive.
@@needsLITHIUM I had my eyes on the Argos pedal for a while. I heard it was super close to the DemonFx PD, so close most people couldn't tell the difference. Is that your experience with them?
My favorite use case with precision drive pedals is to boost and add gain to lower gain or even clean applications. I have an Orange Super Crush, and I basically use it as a single channel amp, dialing in a spanky, sparkly clean tone on the neck pickup, then the bridge pickup + turning the precision drive on brings it to life. I've used that with my RG7321 in F# standard, and with my B.C. Rich Virgo that I've modded with an Invader in the bridge and a Hot Stack in the neck. It's high enough gain for extreme metal, clear enough and with cut to where a better than I guitarist can sweep through it cleanly, and low enough gain where double tracking doesn't give you the fizzy nasties, even if you layer an HM-2 or something crazy on the second take.
@@needsLITHIUM that is very impressive. F# is a really fun tuning, you can create some amazing low end riffs. I was eyeing of the orange super crush when it first came out, it was just a little too expensive in Australia unfortunately. I was really keen to give it a shot.
I got one and it sounds awful, and has a very loud background noise as well. I got a fender Mustang 1 which sounds far better and doesn't have the loud noise . I can get rid of the noise if I turn the gain down, but as soon as I try to get a metal tone it gets the noise which is almost as loud as the guitar.. The overall sound is thin, tinny like a crappy pedal with a thin layer of fuzz
@@asdfasdfasdfsadf7868 this amp definitely seems more like a novelty over a functional amp. It's interesting what they achieved, but you couldn't use it to record or rehearse with a band.
The DB meter is a great addition! I think it would be more accurate to test at a further distance from the amp, like where an audience would stand to watch a gig. Volume drops significantly with distance, so while something might blow your head off in a small room, it may disappear live. FWIW I tried to play a show with the micro dark and it sounded beefy through an 8ohm 4x12 until my drummer started blasting. Then it disappeared completely
@@garbageburner8568 I was unsure how far away to have the device when I filmed this video. I ended up prioritising having it the same distance for each test. That's a good idea, I should see if I can find space that is large enough to compare close for on stage and far for off stage results.
FYI, all else equal? Doubling the power of an amp yields 3db. In order to perceive a doubling in volume, you need about 10db. So, a 40 watt amp is exactly twice as loud as a 5 watt amp. (5x2 = 10, 10x2= 20, 20x2 = 40watts). In order to double the volume of that 40 watt amp, you would need a 320 watt amp. Yes, really.
@@metalprognosis The circuit in the Deluxe and the Twin is the same. It's somewhat more "hifi" and a little less twangy and colored in tone. The twin/deluxe is widely considered to be an outstanding pedal platform. The twin can stay clean essentially all the way up, if desired.
The might 15 seemed like it had a lot of hum. Seems like they can all get plent loud. Maybe the Fender has more clean headroom than the Harley Benton etc ..
Ohh there is no clean up on any of these. The hum can be easily be fixed with a noise reducer. The Fender Hotrod is a beast of an amp, when I use to use it live, I had to have a pedal in front of it to help control the volume haha. It's a great amp, my biggest issue with it, is the weight of it. Loading and unloading the Hotrod it draining as it's so heavy.
Depending on your taste, you could get something really good from it. What I am unsure of, if you use it in the effects loop, I have a funny feeling you would get the best result doing that.
@@metalprognosis ah thanks for info tho. Im looking for a heavy distortion or metal distortion type since i use boss sd1and behringer overdrive distortion n im looking for a heavier distortion. Do u hv any recommendation for the cheap heavy distortion?
@@metalprognosis hmm not yet for now i currently use behringer od300 as main distortion and use SD1 as booster or Joyo Dyna comp if i want a volume booster without change much tone. I actually hv saphue ultimate drive but i rarely use it it just for a pop or some alternative songs that needed a high gain overdrive since they said ITS an OCD clone lol
I tried this with my Joyo Zombie-ii and it sounds great when I hook just my eq pedal to the loops, but if I add my distortion pedal, it literally goes from silence to 180 decibels just turning the volume knob on the front of the amp. So I'm forced to plug my guitar into the distortion and then distortion in to front. What am I doing wrong, why does it act like that? I thought you could do distortion pedal in your effects loop? I use the clean channel on the amp with the gain turned completely off.
The effect loop is a great approach, but a very sensitive one... If you send anything through the effects loop you are by passing all the volume and EQ on the amp... That is why it comes out so loud. If you are going to use distortion in the effects loop (which is a great idea!) you need to control the volume on the pedal first. Keep attacking your setup! The more you experiment, the more you will understand what works best from you with the equipment you have.
@@metalprognosis I’m worried if I lower the output too much on the distortion pedal or the 2nd pedal in the chain the eq, then it will not have the same sound the distortion pedal should have idk man so confusing and it’s real loud if I mess up hahah
@@enacku Start with one piece at a time... First dial in the distortion pedal, then after that add the EQ... That may help you identify how each equipment is talking to each other.
Really liked the tc setting in the mix. Kinda reminded me of that 90's deathmetal tones. Bit of low mids? in tone, but, not a bloated overly bass heavy tone. If that makes sense?
The Meshuggah TC settings are bass lowest and high noon-1 o clock, volume as needed. The 33 is basically that but preset, though there may be some other small tweaks to the circuit.
I knew that'd be awesome. Gotta say though, way better than I thought it would. Jam came out really nice. Loved when you rediscovered the power of CHUG. One of the main reasons why I haven't delved further into lower tuning.
I'm going to have to muck around with it more. I think there is something pretty rad in this plugin. I just need to figure out how to dial it in. If it is a pitch shift, you are right, some melodies may have notes clashing...
There may of been moments of clipping while pushing this pedal too hard. It is a powerful preamp! And I'm going directly into my audio interface, which can be a bit of a fragile situation. But worth it, as this preamp can get some awesome results!
I do agree, the reference sounded the best for this mix. The v30 got lost after the single note section, the chug ir also got lost there too, only the high end side. There's bedroom tones, practice tones, rehearsal tones, recording tones, and live tones. All have their place and none are wrong, just the wrong place. All have their compromises. My absolute favorite tone gets lost in the low end in a mix of any sort. Many other folk go the opposite direction, theirs gets lost in the mids and high end.
You are right, there are a fair few frequencies that did get lost throughout the different examples. I feel in these cases you would want to pick with resonates with you most and work around that, either altering the guitar tone, or mucking around with all the other instruments to see where you can make them all work together. It was a fun video to put together and I was really keen to hear how they would pair up against each other.
@metalprognosis please can you mention which one should I choose between NUX MG-30 and BOSS GT-1. First time buyer. Your suggetion will be really helpful. Thanks and regards.
@@sayanghosh3643 that's a hard one for me to choice for you. What are you looking for with your guitaring? Are you looking to use it for live work, studio work, mixing it with other equipment?
@@sayanghosh3643 on the cheaper end: harley benton dnafx unit, nux mg30 and the moore ge200 all support third party ir's. For recording in a home studio where noise is a concern, any of these three would do you wonders. From what I know about the boss gt1, it does have cab sims, but not as in-depth as the others.
@@BrianBower for the first hour I first used it at rehearsal, I thought I was bending time and space every time I looked down at it. Every since after that I swear by them! They feel amazing, specially with melody and soloing.
Good stuff man! I love the 33. I tend to alternate between the Mxr 77 super badass od, and either the 33 or the Grinder. I'm currently torn between the grinder and my hexdrive. I'm still in the honeymoon phase with the hexdrive so we will have a verdict as soon as that wears off. I was curious if you had an opportunity to try out any of the Lichtlaerm products yet? The Gate and Key is supposed to be an incredibly good gate with a killer boost. King in Yellow is his favorite boost/od, Gahennah is a super brutally voiced distortion from what I can tell. They're a bit pricey but not over the top for boutique pedals. Anyways sorry for the rambles lol. Thanks for the great vid! 🤘 Lmao I just looked at your channel and saw right away that you do have videos about Lichtlaerm Audio products. Guess I should have looked lol. Sorry about that. Well... off to watch those vids now. New sub for you sir! Great content!
No need to apologize. I'm a tiny channel is extremely unknown. Thank you for checking it out. I haven't used the hexdrive, I've heard awesome about it and results from it. I had the grinder for a little bit from a friend, but personally couldn't tell the difference between that and the 33, so I kept the 33. The Gahennah is amazing! It's so powerful as a preamp. I love it, I still need to use it more to get better at using it. I have another video coming out soon using it.
Okay this is a great demonstration of a simple yet practical metal set up. Thank you for not making yet another bad blues pedal review. RU-vid is so saturated with those that it's difficult to find simple metal guitar gear demos without first sorting through a sea of horrid daddy got the blues jams... lol don't get me wrong. I appreciate the talent involved in quality blues. But it's not what I'm looking for 99.9% of the time. So, once more thank you for a very well done, to the point demo, incredible riffs, and no frills or gimmicky sponsorship plugs lol. If this was a sponsor driven demo it's one that sells itself so nicely done. Good gear sells itself. It doesn't require sales tactics. Well done and one last big thank you for an all around good video. Bravo sir! 👏
Thank you heaps! I haven't done any sponsored videos, the closest I came to was a competition I was asked to join that had sponsored prizes. All my equipment is bought myself. Which is good because I'm not comfortable with trying to sell anything haha. I love making videos with sounds I'm trying to get, for tones I love that I feel is really lacking for resources and raw discussions. I agree with the blues over saturation, take nothing away from how good they are at what they do... But it doesn't tickle my heavy screaming itch for brutal tones on a budget.
Per my memory, i was seriously looking at this thing, there should be an option for line out or to amp out. I should have gotten this instead of the Headrush MX5. I can see a series of videos getting the sound you want for various situations. Be it studio, rehearsal, live...
That was definitely my face during the filming of this video haha. I know I have gotten better results in the past with this unit, I'm keen to give it a shot again soon to see if I can get a better result.
That could be an interesting feature to home in on. I'm keen to give this unit another shot and see if I can get a better result, as I know I have in the past.
@@lolzplaysofficial6883 you need to have smaller size third party ir's. If you have large files it take a moment to load it in when switching patches. I feel into the same trap. If you have some smaller size files, it is seamless. I also saw they have a new model coming out, that might be worth you looking into as well.
@@WApnj I enjoy sharing with everyone my first impressions, which can lead to moments of unsureness. Sometimes (most times) it leads to finding out amazing things, not with this little thing unfortunately. It was a fun quick video with hopefully some giggles on how this pedal thingy rolls. Thanks for taking the time to check it out.
Here's a really good tip: Using an EQ pedal in the effects loops send and return ,(and setting the mids up a bit, then having the level of the EQ higher than regular), gives you a nice boost in volume for a booster pedal.
Thank you, that sounds like a pretty rad trick. I feel like you could get the 33 type of grind with that type of mid push. Are you running an EQ pedal in your setup?
@@metalprognosis Yep. I am running a 7 band EQ into the effects loop of my Marshall JCM 900. I also have an ISET Booster and delay in the effects loop as well. The Booster also gives me a "boosting option as well. I might just use the booster for a lead boost and use the EQ to fatten up my sound.
Awesome. 7 band EQ sounds like it would be enough for what you are doing. I feel five bands sometimes just isn't enough... What cab are you using? Marshall JCM are really solid amps! They have a lot of gain on tap!
You should have realised that you don't play this product with that product cause they're electrically opposed to each other. You don't snigger at the amp designer 😒 That's wasting your time. If you want a Big Mac, don't buy an orange. Stop getting distracted by irrelevant stuff. The orange is CLEARLY LABELLED, not for people who want precision. Ask yourself, why did you miss this ⚠️ warning on the amp? Why didn't the salesmen point this important information out to you? You don't apply precision products to an amplifier that's going to fight your approach. The orange amp is electrically not compatible with EQ precision product. It's just going to reject your EQ signal. You should also realise that you're misleading the public with all of your crazy electrical ideas, So you're forcing us to have to report your lies, to the authorities. This industry IS getting cleaned up and all the professional deceit is getting reported to the authorities.
Thank you for taking the time to check out my video. I do recall been a little disappointed in the parallel setup compared to the serial setup in the effect loop. The disappointment was on my personal comfort how I like to run pedals and amps, nothing against anyone that enjoys and uses this amp (or any) differently. I did miss the amps specifics when I brought it, as I didn't know it was a thing until I tried. I'm learning as much as anyone else. Hence why I but a little message on all my videos stating this. I have also learn a heap from people helping me out in the comment sections and chatting to me directly. I'm very grateful for this community. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. Hopefully if you see some of my later videos, you will see an improvement in how I approach and try things in the studio.
So ask yourself, What's so 1978 about that? Nothing. Then you should have realised t this point 👉 👈, you STOP what you're doing and FIX THE PROBLEM. Clearly you either have an electrical fault or you're missing knowledge. You can't continue on and ignore the electrical fault. Realise this sound didn't exist in 1978. YOU EITHER bought a broken pedal or you have no knowledge of 1978 sounds or you don't realise you should have realised you've got an electrical fault or you're making a sick joke. You've obviously just copied other idiots and bought into a brand your don't understand or you can't read labels etc... At this point, you've been exploited and been ripped of buying products you can't use. The salesmen lied to you and sold you expensive products you can't possibly use.
