lol, what? If you want a review of ICL, a 2 week post surgery update isn't a video you should be watching. My video never claimed to be a review. My surgery was two years ago, I am happy with the results, but my vision still has glare.
How about physical activity, i am wearing glasses my whole life and its annoying when moving around explosively , like riding a motorcycle at 200kmh the glasses would vibrate and i cant see a thing, i am thinking about getting the ICL
Congrats on surgery. Hopefully things are going well for you. I do remember a little bit of irritation for the first little bit after surgery. It felt like an eyelash constantly stuck in my eyes. Though I only recall it being a minor annoyance for the first few days.
Its been 2.5 months since I have got my ICL done with 8.0 glasses power on both eyes. My left eye vision is diminished giving me very low vision, also my pupil is dilated by 4-5mm. My doctor has told me that I have to live with it. Did you face anything that sort of?
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So when you said that the side effects don't bother you as much, do you mean your brain is just used to it, or it has lessened enough that it is not as annoying?
I just got ICL done last week, and I’m having major ghosting issues In my left eye, along with overall blurrier vision compared to my right eye. The blurriness doesn’t bother me as much, but the ghosting throws me off, as every light has an effect. Seems to go away for a split second when I look at a bright light, but comes right back. I’m still on the steroid drops, and I had seen you mentioned that the drops will interfere, so I’m hoping after the 2 weeks are up with the steroid drops, my vision gets better 😭
Things improved significantly after stopping the drops. However the glare may not go away fully. But it does become easier and easier to ignore. The pros of not thinking about or wearing glasses outweighs the glare for me. Hopefully things start to feel great for you soon!
13:57 This is what happened to me. I have glare from the iridotomy procedure, and you are correct that it is permanent. The glare is distressing enough for me that I decided to cut my losses and cancel the ICL surgery so as not to risk further side effects. I consider it the worst decision of my life. Others may feel differently even if they have the same outcome, but that's my story.
Dang, that really sucks. The side effects of Evo+ have been of little to no regret for me. The few things that annoy me are outweighed by the benefits. But the idea of a permanent hole creating glare for the rest of my life would be a huge concern also. It seems like that side effect isn't stressed enough by many surgeons.
@@JeremyJensenTheOriginal Yeah, it unfortunately was not mentioned as a possible outcome by any of the surgeons I spoke to. They all told me that the ICL was reversible without ever cautioning that the associated iris procedure was not reversible, which honestly seems like malpractice to me but what’s done is done. I also forgot to mention that I was only eligible for the Toric ICL due to my astigmatism, and there is no Evo version of the Toric lens as far as I’m aware.
I was -7 prior surgery. I had it done 3 months ago, I see glares at very dim areas. If I feel fresh, I won’t see halos at night, but If I am tired, my pupil would dialate more and exceed the optical zone. The glares bother me quite a lot at first. Now it has gotten little better. But it is somehow very hard for me to ignore and not look at the glares, when they are there. Unfortunately I didn’t use the EVO+ lens, it was EVO. But my doctor told me the difference is too small it is not worth to exchange the lens.
@@JeremyJensenTheOriginalone more question, do you think you can function/perform (like driving at night) and see as good as pre surgery with glasses and contacts in low light situations after the adaptation? I know the glares would reduce the contrast sensitivity at low light situations, but the neural adaptation would compensate this effect in some extent and make it better, but I am not sure whether it will compensate it to the level as pre surgery. I would like to hear your experience. Thank you!
@@yuanyi827 driving at night was definitely harder in the first few months following surgery. Now it's about the same as before surgery, as I'm used to the glare. I think the only situations where my vision feels worse, and it can genuinely be stressful without a bright source of light (such as a headlamp or flashlight) is working in low light areas. For example, I recently did a project where I ran ethernet to various rooms in my house, and had to frequently go up into my houses attic. The constant transition from daylight in my house to the darkness of my attic made the glare really challenging to work without additional sources of light.
Had surgery 1 week ago, feel absolutely perfect but vision has not adjusted yet. I’m seeing some fuzziness and blurry, still on post op drops of course. I’m told it will improve as part of healing process. I see some people are seeing perfect after a couple of days, I guess it varies greatly.
Things definitely take a bit to stabilize for sure. The steroid drops definitely make things a rollercoaster for the first little bit. Congrats on the surgery!
Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm getting mine done on Halloween and was also told I have pretty large pupils. So hoping I won't have similar issues 😮 Either way, my one eye is -17.5, so I think the potential risk is worth taking given that I already can't do much 😕
My left eye is already blinded and my right eye is the only one I have now. I wear very thick glasses and I'm contemplating if I will have this ICL next year.
I wasn't a candidate for LASIK so the doctor recommended me this procedure, already knew from my research that LASIK wouldn't work for me, but just wanted to make sure. I work in front of PCs a lot so I don't think I will be getting this one either, glasses and contact lenses it is 😅 My left eye is -8.5, right eye -12, thanks for sharing your story!
I work full-time in front of a computer and it's been totally fine. If glasses or contacts don't bother you, then that's probably the best option to stick with. I don't think I would have even considered surgery if it weren't for how uncomfortable i find contact lenses. It's a big decision, so if you're on the fence, best to stay away.
@@JeremyJensenTheOriginal That is possible too although the light would be shaded to the level of the tint. The level of tint is quite light...and can be any color you like...like rose. This would be your night or dark ambient environment use only.
That's a great question. Ignoring all other perks of ICL vision, I think my overall enjoyment of TV watching was higher with contact lenses. Glasses I'd put as equal, as I always had glare issues with glasses and gaming. If contacts were a 10/10 experience for gaming/tv watching, then ICL is a 7/10 in low light scenes, 10/10 in anything bright. But in pretty much every other category of vision, I prefer ICL (day to day driving, cooking, cleaning, hiking, and just about everything else).
Hi Jeremy, I'm almost at 10 months post-surgery (EVO plus) and still have quite a bit of glare (watching TV at night, etc, not the daytime rings) unless I'm using Brimonidine drops. I have only used the drops a few times. I believe I have large pupils like you (maybe larger). Any words of wisdom? lol I'm nervous that mine aren't going to go away.
Sounds like exactly what my eyes are like. I don't think it'll ever go away fully as long as the lenses are in there. Sometimes the glare can be hard to ignore, but just keep your mind on other things and let your brain learn to filter out the noise. I think the most important thing for me was to not look into the glare or double vision, which has helped my brain filter out the double vision. Glare is still present, but it just feels normal now. And in MOST scenarios it's ignorable, and rarely interferes with my vision.
hey Jeremy, just found your videos. i just got ICL a couple weeks ago, i have glare in my left eye and some dryness, i am mostly satisfied with the procedure and my doctor says that the visual artifacts will decrease over time, i am worried about the early development of cataracts, since it would mean reintervention. Did you get tested recently for that?
Early cataracts was definitely a risk they warned me about. So far there is no indication that my eyes are developing them. I'm not super worried about it, but it's definitely a concern. I think the side effect I was most nervous about was eye pressure buildup that could result in glaucoma... luckily both glaucoma and cataract tests were looking good for me in my 1 year followup. I had very good results with all tests that were completed. Hopefully your dry eyes should be less of a problem in the near future.
At night my vision goes very bad. Honestly disappointed with the surgery. It's giving me anxiety. I keep living in my head cause I can't see well at night. I feel like I'm missing out on real life
Just in time, after waiting for about 2 month I got the email that my lenses have come in. Found your videos when I was first looking into it and was hoping you'd get your update out before my surgery. Looks like I'll be getting it within the next 2 weeks. Nervous but I'm ~ -10 in both eyes and have pretty bad astigmatism so I feel like the benefits outweigh the side effects you've experienced. Your videos have been very helpful!
Congrats! Hope everything goes well for you. Just be patient during recovery, if your doctor is happy with your eye pressure and lens positioning then things should definitely get better in time. :)
@@JeremyJensenTheOriginal got it yesterday. Day of was terrible, everything had an aura around it. This morning is much better since those dialating drops wore off. Now I get starburst and halos in low light but not as bad as I thought it would be. Can already watch tv, drive, play games. Hopefully it gets better and better. Thanks again for your vids!
Better across the board, I've had no issues. My experience is similar to the OP, in low light I get some ghosting/glare but not enough to bother me. I can drive at night normal; daytime is absolutely perfect. Probably the worst is when watching TV/Playing games that have dark scenes with really bright lights in them. I get some glare, but not enough to bother me at all and I'm a huge gamer and watch TV/play on OLED screens which can be dark. If I had to make the decision over again, I would still get the surgery. My brother is planning on getting it sometime next year when he saves enough for it. @@diegovs1508
Wow, It was a really good time. Glad it all worked out for you. I think as time passes it will get better and better for you. You are in a scenario that I already see ghost images, halo and glare with the Evo+. Funny that for me to use the computer and watch you is uncomfortable even after 9 months and I am with the lights on. Just seeing the environment that you are in my pupil dilates. About what you said the head starts to really try to ignore it if you don't look at it. But even then it's a totally uncomfortable feeling like it knows it's there. At least for me it often blocks the view if you want to look at some detail or something with more contrast. Which makes it impossible not to look at it and not focus on it many times, because all you can see is it. I hope I can go out to watch a movie and play a dark game without my head desperately asking me to stop. Things have gotten a little easier. But I confess that I expected more after 9 months, It was a very small improvement. I hope to change my mind by having your surgery time.
That totally makes sense! The good news is that even after 9 months you'll still continue to see small improvements with time. At my 9 month mark I did a road trip through rural Vermont, and the interior car lights and instrument cluster gave me really bad glare... It was pretty stressful. But then around the 12 month mark I did a similar drive and it was noticeably less annoying. I'd imagine if you are experiencing improvements between month 6 and month 9, then you're still on your journey to better. I wish it were faster!
thanks for sharing. weeks or months after surgery, did you feel pain? How long did it take for your pupils to synchronize after you stopped using the eye drops?
Pain went away pretty quick after surgery... Mostly gone after 72 hours, and even then it was a very mild pain. Any additional discomfort was gone after about a month. My pupils went back to normal within a month of stopping the eyedrops.
Great videos @JeremyJensenTheOriginal . This 100% describes what I have. Have you had any improvement since this video? I'm currently 8 months post-op and still have bad double/triple vision in dark environments.
I'm now 16 months post op, and with each month that passes I think less and less about my vision or the side effects. I think my brain has nearly fully adapted to everything. It still is there, but I no longer think about it or notice it. Even at my 8 month mark I was still experiencing a steady improvement with each month that passes. The brain is a very interesting tool! Hopefully yours will continue to filter out more and more as mine has.
My near vision is identical to what it was when wearing contact lenses (so yes, it's impacted in comparison to my natural eyes, but not in a way that's evens lightly an issue). Pre-surgery, my eyes without contact lenses or glasses could see things up VERY close, however I would lose that up close vision with contacts or glasses, and now after surgery it's forever that way. But we're talking near vision as in 2-5 inches in distance from my eyes. I can still read my phone, books, computer screens without any issues whatsoever.
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Enhorabuena por los vídeos Hace más de un mes me implante las lentes Icl y experimento todo lo que describes… aparte de eso desde el primer día también percibo como unas sombras en el campo visual temporal que reducen el campo de visión.. algo así () me an dicho que en algunos pacientes es normal pero la verdad que no encuentro a nadie que lo experimente con Icl… e leído algo de disfotopsias negativas que la verdad que me siéntelo bastante identificado con lo que yo siento.. as percibido estas sombras o conoces algún caso? Muchas gracias
Can you be very specific about the steroid drops making your vision unstable please? Had surgery evo visian viva on my left eye 8 days ago. My vision is very blurry and post op results suggest i now have astigmatism (ha not had prior to surgery). Second surgery meant to take place on Monday but will postpone until my left is good. Seeing doctor again tomorrow so i want to ask him now if the reason for my super blurry results could be because of the steroid drops!
I don't know the specifics of why or how steroid drops cause problems. But if you google search "steroid eye drops side effects" you can see a breakdown of many common ones. For me, it just made it so my vision wasn't in focus at all times, and my pupil sizes would get really wonky. It took months for my eyes to get fully stable.
@@JeremyJensenTheOriginal Ok thanks so much Jeremy for your super fast response. I guess it's hard to describe "blurry vision" to anyone anyway unless they went through it. I am hoping with all my heart now that's the drops and my sight will improve if I get off them. Thanks again for your videos and being so responsive. I've been on an internet frenzy since Tuesday trying to find answers and you are the only one who helped so thank you! All the best to you and your eyes :-)
@@user-hi9sx2kg6j Happy to help! It can be scary at times during recovery feeling like your eyes don't work fully. But there's a lot going on. As long as your lens is lined up, and your eye pressure is good, then you can feel optimistic you'll be in the 99% of people who are happy with the end result. :)
I just got it done and I’m scared I made a big mistake, these halos are insane and the glare off of everything is very bad.. I hope it’s just because I just did it today but if it doesn’t clear up I’m taking these things OUT! it would suck to throw away so much money though
While you're on steroid drops it's gonna be super intense glare. Glare should get easier and easier as your eyes heal and you no longer require eyedrops. After that your brain should learn to filter out most of the noise. When I first got surgery the glare was something I thought about almost nonstop. By 6 months I barely thought about it at all. And now, after a year it crosses my mind at most for 5-10 minutes a day. It's incredible how much the brain filters out... I can't even see the circles anymore, even if I try to look for them, where immediately after surgery they would be visible on nearly all light sources. Now the circle's are only visible under very specific light sources. And double vision/glare only impacts me in certain low light scenarios, but is fine 99% of the time. Things will likely get better! It just requires patience, and doing your best to not think about it so that your brain can learn to adapt.
@@JeremyJensenTheOriginal ok thank you so much, this reply calmed me down a LOT! so thank you cuz I was almost starting to panic haha glad you’re happy with yours and I hope I can be happy with mine in the future, truly appreciate it!
@@JeremyJensenTheOriginal Mam I done my icl now 4.5 months complete I have a problem of halos and flashes when I see sun then in front of eye a circle of rainbow
Thanks for posting this...really well said. I had ICL about 19 months ago and I was about -10 prior. My pupils were too large for Lasik. Turns out, they are probably too large for ICL also so I'm dealing with the halos and glare like you describe. I'm only free of the effects outside in sunlight. Otherwise, the light produced by a lamp or overhead light gives me the ghosting/glare effect. It goes away using the brominidine drops, but as you found, you don't want to use them every day. I just have to keep telling myself that it is a tradeoff.
Hello! I think you will probably have some of the same vision issues I've described in this video. No way to know for sure until after you get surgery. The good news is that my brain has learned to better filter out a lot of the noise, so it has been less and less of an issue. But the amount of filtering your brain does is the one thing you can't predict. It took about 6 months for me to be comfortable with the glare. And now 12 months later it barely bothers me at all. I have my 12 month check-up this week. I plan to post a new video sometime after that appointment about how things are going. :)
Sometimes, yeah. Depends how well adjusted my eyes are to the lighting of the space I'm in. For example, when I went to see the movie John Wick 4, I had quite a bit of ghosting/overlapping during the first hour of the movie (as I had been outside in the bright sunlight before going into the theater). Once my eyes were adjusted to a dark theater the glare wasn't noticeable anymore.
Can you get those eye drops over the counter or do you have to have them prescribed? When I google them it brings up lumify drops but I don’t know if those are the same
Prescription only in the USA. Lumify does have a similar effect on pupil size from my understanding, but I haven't tried it. I've gotten used to the glare in my eyes, so I no longer use eyedrops. The glare is still there, it just doesn't bother me anymore.
Did you experience migraines/headaches? I had evo icl Feb 2023 and had migraines; they needed to reposition my left eye, this was done March 2023. Since then, I have been having headaches. I'm trying to determine whether my eyes just need to adjust. I personally had no other issues.
I don't recall headaches being a side effect for me. Just light sensitivity for the first month or so, which could make my head hurt. Though, I could imagine that the need for your eyes to adjust to the repositioned lens would cause a headache (pre-surgery new glasses would cause headaches for the first few weeks). Definitely ask your doc. I was told eye pressure can cause headaches, so if you are having increase eye pressure you'd wanna get that sorted ASAP.
Hey, just had mines done last week. Pretty happy with the result especially as I was -17.5. I've documented my ICL journey ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0RJGJqt45Dc.html
