I won't be able to test that in the studio, but I was at RaceKraft on Sunday where a 3 leg version was running and they said there was no problem with it at all

@@DrAlanQuan thanks

Awesome set up! What distance is the centre monitor from the driver? With that much reach, it could be out nice and far for less eye strain

I don't think there is any issue. The shifter is all metal construction so there's no degradation when taking it apart or reassembling - but to be honest I haven't taken it apart many times. It's been really reliable for the 3 years now

@@DrAlanQuan Thank you for answering I made a reddit post and asked if those who have it had an issue I said I use a power drill set to low torque and some suggested to do it by hand gently to avoid degration I asked another person he owns it 2 years and he said he has no problems It's probably fine Anyway thank you

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Hahaha yeah, sometimes I can get away with some assumptions and other times nope.

Yeah now that I'm using a rim that has no buttons I'm seeing the benefit of a button box/stream deck. Less useful when I use my formula rim which has a gajillion buttons

Enjoy! I'd like to see your approach to getting the wheel working on your rig, see if there's any improvements I can make to my method

I'll be using that for a secondary setup under a desk 👍

On the DD1 it's no problem in the slightest. Turn the power up and you can get as much resistance as you want. The QR1 is a limiting factor because it knocks around but all the feedback is in there. Even on the Simagic Alpha Mini when you lose the rear end, it will whip the wheel around so fast. It drives just fine on the Mini as well. Current generation DD bases are really good.

@@DrAlanQuan Awesome to hear that. How much does it weigh as opposed to a traditional 330mm sim racing rim?

The best I can do is compare against a basic 350mm rim (no button box, shifters, nothing) Without the Fanatec podium hub, the Toyota wheel is 1.7kg The 350mm rim is 0.9kg

@@DrAlanQuan That's quite nice considering the diameter even though it seems heavier.

Hi, thank you for your kind words! I'm so glad you found the video useful/informative. When I made my initial video there were a couple of videos on the topic but each of them had certain issues that made it difficult to discern any useful conclusion from. It was really fun to test out the different configurations, race in them, and make the video - plus all the discussion/debate that comes in the comments too! I have very little experience with VR and am hoping to give VR a proper go later this year. Years ago I played GT Sport and Dirt Rally on the PSVR and there was enormous potential there, I'm sure it's a crazy amount of fun now that the tech is getting better and better. Had you felt your super ultrawide was limiting you before this video?

@@DrAlanQuan yes I absolutely did feel limited. I was a bit shocked at how little peripheral vision I had on my Samsung crg49 when racing side by side with others. I was quite disappointed and it didn’t inspire much confidence when fighting for position with others. Your video demonstrated my issues very well. I figured with the ultra wide and the curve I would get the best of both worlds, immersion like triples and almost as good FOV. I was very wrong as it turns out, but it was a necessary compromise considering the lack of space I had. I found myself racing in VR a lot because of it, but that has its own drawbacks as you will find out later this year. I hope you make some content on your experience! Just got a great deal on 3 x 32” 1440p IPS panels and am super excited to mount them and drive. Thanks for your reply!

It's been 360 and 370mm, it's hard to measure because the rim has a curved grip so the tape measure doesn't have anything to lock onto

I paid nothing for the wheels, they were given to me by my friends at German Motorwerks. Material costs to do the 3D printing, shifters etc probably around $20-30 total

Thanks! I was very lucky to get my hands on these wheels and it was fun making them work!

I would say in general, larger screens are better but also that having 3 of the same size screen is best just because the software is designed for that. Mismatched monitor widths just sound like a nightmare to set up and I don't plan to ever try to do that. So triple ultrawide, triple super ultrawide, triple gigantic tv, triple 32s will all be fantastic imo

I did test the T300 against a bunch of DDs as well as the Logitech G29 in my Moza C5 review. The T300 definitely holds its own and is a huge step up from the G29. The step from T300 to DD is nowhere near as big. I would be happy racing on a T300 honestly. The only downside is the rim ecosystem

Man it never stops. My printers may sit idle for a few weeks at a time but new reasons to fire them up again always pop up! Love it

Hi! I took the download down last month or so, let me see if I can find it again. If I don't have an update in 24 hours please message me again to remind me!

@@DrAlanQuan Amazing thank you for your efforts! I’ll follow up with you. Thank you!

Why stop at 48? Triple anything is really good 👍

4080s only came out a year and a bit ago, but people have been running triple 1440s for years on 20 series cards maybe even older than that too My 3070 does 100+fps at triple 1440, which is good enough for me :)

Hi Colin, definitely a good thing that you went with triples! Yes they take up more space and aligning them is not easy, but the FOV difference is staggering. Still, every setup has is advantages and a lot of people love their single screen rigs - no judgement from me! Love that F3 :)

No problem at all my friend! I was told that the pedal plate is a standard inclusion (it comes in a separate box but it should be delivered with every XR1). With that in mind, you can choose whether or not to use it, so there should be no issue mounting the CRPs that I can think of :)

@@DrAlanQuan Thanks. I bought one and I can see that it doens't come with a heel plate - I can see it listed seperately on their website now.

I can see at 04:51 the pedals are mounted directly between the two bars. Maybe I don't need the plate. Did you fix them into the T Nuts? Sorry I'm finding it difficult to figure out how to do this part because the standard build video doesn't have enough info.

Yes the pedals mount into T nuts that are supplied with the XR1. I hope it all goes smoothly for you! I'll do what I can to help if needed, but the simrigs guys are really good for support too 👍

@@DrAlanQuan Thanks mate, appreciate it. The XR1 build videos didn't show putting t nuts in there to mount the pedals so wanted to be sure.

Hi McBain, I'm not sure what you're talking about - is it a seat slider that you're trying to attach? If that's the case, you'll need to space the seat mounting profiles along the chassis such that they match up with mounting holes in the seat slider, then bolt them down. Hope this helps, and if it doesn't then please try to narrow down your query :)

I don't think so, I took the C5 off the rig a while ago and I'm sure there's been a Cammus software update since so the profile might be reset. It doesn't need much tuning from defaults anyway - just turn up the power to 80% and a couple of adjustments here and there, and it races well

I'm sorry I don't understand your question or its translation. I would ask your local Simagic distributor. Good luck!

I designed it myself and put it online, but I took it down after I discovered it would wear out over time and lose its ability to securely hold the wheel. Somebody did a remix which is still up here: www.thingiverse.com/thing:6433763 but I haven't tested it myself - this is an older design that is not compatible with the new, larger QR that came with the GT Neo by the way I made a new version that is compatible with the GT Neo but again, it wears out, so that file is just for me :)

@@DrAlanQuan thanks for the reply! I just had the VNM wheel and base come in. I'm very happy with it.

Oh nice! Do you have any other VNM products? I've been really impressed with the level of support VNM offer and I think the VNM DD is a very solid purchase. 32Nm is way more than I need though 😂

​@@DrAlanQuanI've got the brakes, and likely buy the handbrake and shifter in the future, but I largely stick to open wheel. The brakes are very good. High quality and performance at a slightly lower price point. VNM just need to get their name out more!

Open wheel is fun (and my favourite racing), but some variation definitely keeps things interesting. I have the shifter and handbrake and it gives lots of options especially for things like rally which is what I loved racing 19 years ago

Where are you located? You can download the files and 3D print them yourself, but if you're local to me I may be able to print a set for you cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/fanatec-formula-grip-upgrade-complete-collection

@@DrAlanQuan bro I have no idea about 3d printing or have access to one. I'm from UK. I'll be happy to pay for postage

For the price of my print plus postage, you could get yourself a nice kit from Pineapple Grips who is local to you. You could always use this as an opportunity to learn 3D printing though, and if you download my files you can print all sorts of different designs in different sizes and really nail down what you want your wheel to be. I find the process of building and installing the grips to be great fun, you might enjoy it too

Hi Matteo, I have confirmed fitment with eSports V1, and formula V2 (PS and Xbox versions) with my own testing. I have made design changes to improve compatibility when I discover any problems, and I update the download file with the improved files - see this short video ru-vid.comuPnWv2B4sOQ?si=pUIjgAWqV1xFAbyi I am 95% certain it will work straight away with the Formula Black V1, because Fanatec has kept a lot of the design exactly the same after all these years. If there are any fitment issues send me photos and I will fix it and send you the updated files :)

@@DrAlanQuan appreciate it, thanks!

That's awesome man. You got a great seat, at an awesome price, and you'll get a fun DIY project out of it too. An amazing situation! Have fun :)

Those are a special edition that VNM make for RaceKraft and come fully upgraded from the factory with dampers on throttle and clutch, and a different elastomer setup. You can build your own VNM pedals to the same spec by adding the dampers and changing the elastomers, just without the blue faces or the RaceKraft laser engraving on the pedal plates

I am not well qualified to answer that, I don't have a lot of experience with PCs. That said, computers are so strong these days pretty much anything can work. One of the PCs I used was from 2015 with a Quadro K2200 and ran triple 1080s at 30fps which was completely usable. It just gets better from there!

Check out this review ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ABZKz81s8Xw.htmlsi=tf0ZIaA-Z4xlVMcF he found a Reddit post I made a while ago making that comparison!

Hi Slaphead, thanks for commenting. I figured if all the pedal manufacturers are building in this mechanism, there must be some basis in truth for it. My biggest experience with a manual vehicle was my 2007 Evo 9, I had 3 clutches in that over 11 years and I raced it at my local circuit (my earliest videos on the channel include it). 2 of the clutches were sprung organic plate, and one was an unsprung twin plate metallic clutch (an Ogura 559 to be exact) and all of them had a progressive clutch feel. The only vehicles I've driven with that ptonounced clutch drop off are very unexciting rental type vehicles (VW golf, Suzuki Swift etc) and that's not what I want in my sim. I want my old race car back! I'm glad we're able to have this conversation though. I seem to be in the minority about clutch feel but that's why I make these reviews - they are my reviews after all and if my preferences don't match yours (or others) then you know what to listen to and what to dismiss! What do you drive these days? I've long since sold the Evo, now I cruise around in a lovely automatic 2015 5 series

@@DrAlanQuan I don't actually drive these days, actually I haven't for around 18 years. I moved from the UK to Switzerland, and honestly anywhere I want to go to I can get there faster and cheaper with public transport than if I had my own car.

Wow that's really cool!

😊 thank you!

Hi Gregory, my update went live last night. Now fully compatible with F1 eSports rim including the full round rim, and as an extra bonus I've included a version which is divided into smaller parts so even Mini printers can take it on with no reduction in strength! Handy for people who don't have obscenely large printers. Have at it!

Thanks that's awesome! This is the rim my Dad uses

Yeah, even the plastics and fasteners are higher quality. It was very eye opening to see the change between the two when I would have thought the V2 was the new, improved, more premium rim. Turns out they got clever at making the new rim for cheap. Not saying it's not fit for purpose, but there's no denying the quality shift between the two. I'm guessing the F1 eSports V2 is built more like the Formula V2 but I haven't disassembled one myself

Hi Bob 👋 These are USB, there is no RJ12 option to even try plugging them into the DD1. If you're wanting console (PlayStation at least) compatibility you can go to a full Simagic setup and use a Sigma Cortex converter. Oh yes, things just got expensive for you hahaha

That would be very interesting! Let's see what happens

*Hint-Hint, Wink-Wink Simagic* 👀

49s are still good screens so I'm sure you are enjoying benefits there, but for racing I much prefer triples and it's not even remotely close. Thanks for the comment!

@@DrAlanQuan the issue of the necessity of high cpu & gpu power remains for me. I've heard that (in my case) 33% increase in pixels leads to ~33% in FPS loss. I'd fall far below the 90 FPS mark, which to me is the minimum for sim racing. And lowering the graphics quality would kill more immersion, than the triples would add. But for the future you definitely inspired me to upgrade as soon as the components for that become more affordable :) I'd say GTX 3060 ti is simply not enough for full hd triples on mid to high graphics settings in iRacing.

@@wwvvww573 do you need mid-high iracing graphics? When I was doing my graphics testing I really didn't mind low settings at all, but with my 3070 I found I was able to run triple 1440s with ease, with settings I liked, at 120+fps. A 3060Ti isn't far behind, and if you're getting triple 1080s that's even less pixels to drive. But that was before rain and admittedly I haven't done a lot of driving in iracing since the rain update so maybe performance has changed

Wait till you see the shoes I use here 😂 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zYm4D55UZF0.htmlsi=HSHYbV-3CdzJbj2s But basically there's no problem, I race just fine :) What do you wear when you race?

@@DrAlanQuan just socks usually. Though for longer endurance races where I want a little more padding I have a pair of water shoes because I didn't feel like paying $169 for a pair of Sparcos 😂

​@@lllFeanorlllI used to race in just socks but if you heel and toe, your feet get ruined fast. Do what works for you! I too don't see a need for Sparco shoes, but I do enjoy using FIA-spec OMP gloves. It's a little bit of race spec self love that I can really see and feel every time I'm in the sim :D

Very solid choice, do you think you would mount with the side plates or through the pedal base itself? The clutch and throttle blocking the mounting holes was annoying to me but don't know if it would be an issue at all for you.

Heck yeah 🔥

Man, it really is. I like to think of it as gigantic Lego

Solid choice! I haven't seen the inverted version but given the fit and finish of the standard review unit I'm sure it will be built really solidly.

I've had the Inverted version for the past 5 months and I really like them. I had the Fanatec V3s' for about 5 years and this is a nice improvement.

Extra points if your chassis is raised and you use a jack that can just slide under the rig. I'm using an old regular height trolley jack and the rig needs to be deadlifted onto the jack because there's not enough clearance hahaha

@DrAlanQuan lol. Yea I have a few low profile jacks that can fit under

All the screens in this video are curved. The 32s are 1500R, and the other screens I don't recall exactly but I think they were 1800R

More FOV is better since you're literally looking out the side windows so much. Not a tough choice - triple 32s 👍 haha Thanks for the comment! If I do a follow up video on this topic I'll try to include drift scenarios :)

@@DrAlanQuan😂 true.. thank you so much for the info.

@@DrAlanQuanwhat curvature do you recommend?

@@RogerKnowsTech I honestly don't think it makes a difference, so choose what you think looks cool and/or what's cheapest

@@DrAlanQuanthank you!

I've actually moved out of that space, there were air conditioning issues and the Australian summer is unforgiving! But it was a big space which gave me lots of room to move equipment about freely and do some creative photography. My current studio space is much tighter which poses logistical challenges but the air conditioning is great hahaha

You're welcome, and thank you so much for sharing the love! I hope you have a great day

Yeah a few people have mentioned that in their comments. I just made the observation myself when switching between 270mm and 300mm wheels, I found the 270mm worked fine but the 300mm was pushing the limits of leg clearance in my own cockpit. Always happy to be corrected if I make a mistake! Thanks for commenting. What are your thoughts on the GT Neo?

@@DrAlanQuan I don't have the GT Neo but I like the look and idea of it. I'm currently using the CLS DD 8Nm with Formula V2.5 and I also have and previously used the DD with the 300mm Fanatec McLaren V2 wheel. But I found too big for the CLS DD, watering down the FFB strength too much and eventually getting the Formula V2.5 confirmed that for me. I've been thinking of upgrading to a Simagic wheelbase but torn between the Mini and Alpha. You're review here was very helpful in settling the window-shopping debate I was having about whether to go with an FX or Neo, so many thanks for that!

@DrR1pper I'm glad the video provided some meaningful information for you! Any of the Simagic equipment will be an upgrade to the Fanatec gear you've used already, the question is how far up the Simagic food chain do you want to go? Good luck!

Hi Cryptic Dingo, thanks for commenting! In my opinion, you have a mix of correct and incorrect points and I'll try to address them. You are right, my triple 35"s show less than the triple 32"s when they should show more - IF the driver head position is the same for both setups. However, the driver eye to screen distance for the 32"s is quite short (within arms reach) and the eye to screen distance for the 35"s is much longer. The reason for this is the 32"s are my own personal setup tuned for my preferences, and the 35"s are exactly as configured when delivered by RaceKraft - and they have theirs set up for many customers to easily get in and out of the cockpits in their sim centre. The net result is the screens are further away, so show less. Think of a small window in a cafe - if you're far away from it, you can't see much out of it, but if you get up real nice and close you can see almost everything outside - this is the effect that distance from the eyes has. Should I have corrected the FOV settings to match the same driver distance? For a pure scientific comparison, yes I should have. But I was just filming a comparison of 3 cockpit setups that I had running side by side - all 3 were working well in their own way, and I started filming. Several eagle eyed viewers including yourself asked about the 35s showing less than the 32s which is great - it shows you are watching but also applying your knowledge and asking questions when things don't appear to match up - I love that! Now onto your topic about resolution - I am absolutely confident about this, but please let me know your thoughts. Resolution has nothing to do with FOV, what matters is SCREEN SIZE. Let's take my 32"s as comparison - they have 2560x1440 resolution - so does my 6" phone. If I had the 6" phones set up as triples, at the same distance from my eyes as the 32"s would I have the same FOV? Absolutely not, the phone screens are tiny, even though they have the same resolution - and if they are my window into viewing the world, I'll see barely anything. If I have 3 projectors, each 1920x1080, but projecting triple 100" screens I could make an ENORMOUS game world with huge FOV even though the resolution is smaller. BTW the triple 35"s actually have a resolution of 2560x1080, so they have the exact same horizontal resolution as my triple 32"s - but again it's not about resolution, it's about screen size - and the 35"s are WIDER than my 32s, so they should show more FOV but only if the eye to screen distance is the same. As for the 57" - again we can ignore the resolution, but the issue with the 57" is that it doesn't wrap around you like triples do, so it will not show as much FOV. The screen just isn't in the correct space around the driver's head to show someone driving alongside them. FOV is not about resolution. It's about screen size AND distance from eye to screen. Resolution just makes things look clearer. Thanks so much for your comment, I'd love to hear your thoughts on my reply :)

@@DrAlanQuan Thanks for taking the time to respond. Just based on what I could see I took a stab the 35's had more than your 32's on the horizontal, I knew yours were 2560, so made the assumption they would be 3440 on the horizontal. Re your iPhone 6" screen example. If you adjust the viewing distance to accomodate for the physical size and had them angled to cover the same viewable angular range, then yes, 100% they would have the same FoV. You probably wouldn't want to sit there with iPhones rigged up as monitors right up in your face, but you could, and you'd have the same information displayed (resolution) in the same angular range (fov). Those 3 x 1080p 100in projectors you mentioned, regardless of if you set them up to the same FoV, they would show so little observable/useable information (due to lack of pixel size/density - low resolution relative to physical size) that you wouldn't really have a game world to play in. But as you rightly point out, FoV isn't about resolution! It is about what is observable within a given angular range. Perhaps I was a little fixated on thinking about how much information could be displayed on a given screen regardless of physical size. Why? Because having useable information within the FoV is kind of important. There is a reason they don't make 100" 260p OLED displays right 🤪 So, perhaps when we talk about FoV, triple screen setups vs super ultra wides, we need to address more than just the FoV alone. It's about getting usable/actionable information about the observable 'world' so we can make the best decisions based on that information, like the car coming alongside you. The 3 iPhones (though capable), or the 100in 1080p screens (also capable for FoV but not for providing useable information due to resolution, or lack thereof) are both examples of why we need to talk about these things with more context than just FoV or resolution alone. As for the 57" super ultra wide... that doesn't wrap around as much as your setup, so you're right 100% right, it wouldn't have the same FoV as the 32's because of how much more you bring those around (angular range). That said, technically, it is capable of displaying the same information as the 3x 32's (because of the resolution), just the FoV would be a little off/condensed. One could argue the information would be more usable as it more easily observed (less head turning - peripheral vision is only so good). Still, I concede that point to you Sir 😎. That said, I'd rather the single massive screen and tweak the FoV to give me just enough 'view', but without condensing information from the larger FoV (trips) too much into the slightly smaller FoV (super ultra wide). Side note: I really enjoyed watching your video and chatting with you about it. It certainly made me think, and if your video gets people thinking about these things, then one could say it did what it set out to do. Keep up the good work! 👍