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So people as I watched this people got upset about a card that literally shut down long monster combo decks and made a game last longer then 2 turns. Seems fair to me bring back.
It shuts down almost any deck. They might as well just print a card that says "your opponent can't play the game anymore" instead of mine. Would you also consider that a fair card?
I play magic, haven't ever played yugioh seriously, played casually probably 8 years ago. I play lots of magic though. My early impression is that this deck sounds like Lantern Control in Magic's Modern format circa 2015
The best magic comparison would be karn the great creator + mycosynth lattice. If both cards cost 0 mana and karn has 4 different 0 mana instant speed tutors.
It’s crazy because this card has so many damn outs and yet people were unable to do so because everyone got very reliant on the monsters doing everything.
It has no consistent outs while being very consistent itself. That's what people often fail to understand when they unironically believe that having mst in your deck helps against mine. Also attacking with monsters has been the main way of winning since the very start. Even sword of revealing lights was limited for a long time.
Mystic Mine got banned? Shame. It was the only I way I could've gone back to play ygo occasionally: to make people cry for playing an objectively bad game.
The video was very well put together up until the last moments where you tried to compare Ryan Yu's record with Magnus's. Like, while Ryan Yu is one of the best yugioh players atm and still very young, you just can't compare his success to Magnus's. Magnus is a 5 time world champion with countless other ''premier event'' wins and has been at the top of FIDE's rating for over 10 years. It's purrely an insult to Magnus's performance.
i will advocate for any meta that makes trap cards relevant again, no matter how toxic people think it is. yu-gi-ohs most defining mechanic that set it apart from other card games (imo) was that you could lay a trap and then react to your opponents actions instead of sitting there and just waiting for your opponent to finally end his 5 hour set-up round. now you have hand traps. you have to first LAY a trap, before it activates, the term hand trap doesnt even make sense. now yu-gi-oh turned into the exact thing that i didnt like about other card games. you just wait for your opponent to end his turn. and i would argue that hand traps and the general speed of the game is much more toxic than cards like this. it stops monster cards from being better at being spell- and trap cards than spell- and trap cards. this is so messed up when you think about it. 37 monster cards and only 3 spell cards to only allow monster effects. wtf?
For some reason yugioh players hate deck diversity. If your deck isn't one of the countless variation of aggro control (set up a large board with multiple counters) then yugioh players hate it.
@@Osindileyo In other card games like magic, you see much more deck diversity. Yugioh players hate any deck that isn't centered around one or two card combos that end with a large board backed up by multiple counters. There's more to card games than just that.
Yugioh has the same diversity as other games though. There are aggro decks, control decks, midrange decks and dedicated combo decks. It is a very fast paced and consistent game though, but mine as an extremely consistent 1 card wincon was too much.
I'll never understand the hate mystic mine got until a father player the same card. Imo it's not about what the card is but who plays it for people to not care for it's use I guess.
well it doesnt take a lot of people who get their jollies from just cheesing the game for it to just ruin the game for a lot of people. Generally, if its not fun for the majority of people it probably shouldnt be allowed. People want a good fight, not be insta killed
@@themaddhadder4826 karn was a 1 card stax piece that was too broken for modern because of the mycosynth lattice + karn combo. Which is leagues weaker than mine and was already considered too much stax.
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718 karn+lattice is two cards? Karn tutored the lattice that's why it was too good. Karn isn't that bad in the grand scheme. Rule of law, archon of emeria, deafing silence is closer to mystic mine.
@@themaddhadder4826 that's why it's a 1 card stax? You play karn, then use his tutor ability to get the lattice right away. You only had to play one card in order to get both combo pieces on the field. And no, those examples are closer to the healthy stax in yugioh like rivalry of warlords, gozen match or there can be only one. There is a difference between stax that slows down the opponent and stax that completely stops your opponent from doing anything if they don't happen to have the one thing that stops it right away. Karn + Lattice is the latter, as is Mystic Mine.
I am quite alright not having played through this. I was a stun player from 2010 to 2017 when I took a leave. I am glad I got to play a similar equivalent before it was ubiquitous.
Arguments over card prices has nothing to do with casual/hardcore. It's a pure hardcore discussion with whales on one side and dolphins on the other. Casuals don't need to buy the best cards to stay competitive
I don’t play or even watch competitive YGO, and only occasionally play Master Duel-but I knew, in my heart of cards, that this video would talk about Mystic Mine from the title alone.
