@mdlc1439 No, it only comes on the steel bracelet, but with lug width of 20mm the leather strap can be had else where at your price point of choice. I just usually put it on the bracelet as I do find the on the fly adjustment useful especially on swim days. If it does go on a strap I just use a cheapo 20 dollar black leather strap. All the best. -Martin
Caliber 7275 of Ginault Watches This movement is the seagull st2130 (eta 2824 clone) NO NAME AND FAKE IS COPY NOT GOOD MADE IN CHINA NOT AMERICA OR SWISS NOT CHRONOMITER Owner Ginault Watches is Tsung Chi aka Charles Ginault aka Thomas Caddell is Swindler
I think this watch is Amazing, Fantastic, Superb! I’m already waiting for my OR2. This watch is almost as good as A Rolex Sub, but I went to once purchase a Sub, but got the run around, and put on a two year waiting list. They can shove their waiting list, I’m tired of playing games. Rolex loses, and I’m sticking with John! I hope more people buy from Ginault, and Rolex suffers from lack of demand, and interest , because of the game playing. Love the video, and I concur.❤️👍👍✌️
Sorry to hear I don't do any desk diving anymore and I have this watch on a custom strap but the breaclet wasn't bad in my opinion. Best of luck, wish they had gone with 20mm lugs.
That was my very favorite watch review, ever and that's not hyperbole. Seriously, that was art - a laid back yet heart warming story about a guy and his watch with lots of unique story telling character. So, I have to ask you - do you have any experience with the SBDC085 - the so-called "Darth Mas"? It's the exact same watch with a black DLC case, midnight blue fume dial and a greenish yellow outlined minute hand? I own one and it is a sublime owning experience if I may say so. I actually picked it up brand new, from an authorized dealer for $395.00 delivered in the fluke of a watch buying lifetime.
thanks so much the SBDC085 is a limited edition and I have never had any experience with it in hand. Sadly I only have what I have and never got into limited editions across my collecting journey. Sounds like you scored big I wish you the best with the watch and hopefully you are able to pass it down a generation or two :)
Different prices I'd say...Oceanking V3 is $3580 USD. Ginault SS ranges from $1,499 ~ $1,799 USD. When I first was looking around this time, yes for sure Monta did come across my radar and I almost would have pulled the trigger but they were out of stock. I'll be straight with you. Monta has always this old look to them not in a good way either, their designs are very boring and generic to my view but there lies the greatest comfort in watch collecting there's always the right watch for you, just so happens that it's not right for everyone.
@@watchluster It's a matter of taste. I've had two Ginaults and liked them. I liked less the goofy text on the dial and the fact that the clasp is unsigned. Your price for the Monta is in Canadian dollars.
Sadly in my current situation any watch is too expensive :) With my evolution in watch collecting, if I were to spend another 2-3K on a watch I would rather go for manual wound, gold watch used. I have enough diver's and none of them seem to be going to the grave anytime soon.
Quite similar, but I would still take the Ginault over the CW. The CW I think objectively takes the win but the Ginault just has the charm and my own bias to make me lean towards it. All the best from Vancouver Canada.
I have given it more chances lately and yes definitely switching the factory strap is the wisest decision. Every time I go to do the buckle on the default strap I would just put the watch back and opt for something else. Currently mine is on a leather strap but perhaps I can try a mesh like you as well. Cheers and all the best from Vancouver, Canada.
🎵Congratulations🎵 on your new watch. I hope you will love it but only time will tell. Mine still rocking the Engineer bracelet, have tried a leather NATO si glen pass which worked nicely as well. Share how it goes with it here and thanks ⌚ Best from Vancouver, Canada.
Great job on the video! I really appreciate all the effort you made with the filming and editing, very professional work. As for the watch, I’ve had a SS for nearly a year and totally agree with your objective assessment and review. Out of my collection, this is one of my top 3 favorites in any price class. Despite the controversy surrounding whomever is behind the Ginault brand, they are clearly a talented watchmaker. When I consider this watch on its own merits, it punches well above its price range. Of course, a watch purchase is an emotional and personal choice. For me, the Ginault Silent Service is a winner. The quality, finishing, feel and accuracy are exceptional for the price. All I can say is, whoever is behind the brand knows how to make a damn good watch. Thanks for doing this review.
Thanks for your words. The SS is still part of my collection and I stand by what I said then and it's just basic knowledge that you just know when you feel the thing in hand. It just has a sense of tactility no other watch has. Well let's see, I haven't heard much about any new watches coming from Ginault the owner is probably just eating up all the $$$ :D All the best from Vancouver, Canada.
I bought mine 5 years ago and I bought just couple months ago a curved rubber strap from Crafter Blue. That strap just looks great. Forget Uncle Seiko. Mike from Germany
Nice Mike I hope that the strap is comfortable enough. I have tried a smaller rubber strap but found the look to be too disproportionate and eventually have put it back on the bracelet again. I also have tried it on a leather nato which was surprisingly good but again always feels too small with the 20mm lug width. Greetings from Canada.
yep...I saw a few when I was in Japan and of course it's where I got mine. I wanted to pick up all of them but well even used they were still asking 400-500.
I think the marker was removed recently much like the SBDC101 did away with the marker next to the date window. A newer gen wasn't called for I guess as it really is just the marker that got tossed. Less lume...less cost I guess.
Very lovely review! If you still have it, how has it held up after a year? I heard the movement tends to have long term issues at times, but Sugess seems to be one of the higher quality alibrands afaik.
Hi yes I still have it, and yes it still holds up after a year. The only problem being that I have noticed when I do a full-wind it has happened on a few occasions where it stops all of a sudden. And I need to wind it another click to start the mainspring again. Most likely has something to do with the tight clearances needed for a watch to function and having experienced Chinese made goods for most of my life I think I can fairly say that perhaps the quality of goods coming out of said country isn't as good as possibly other renowned watch makers in other parts of the world. Of course you can just pay 20 times more or worse for those other watches. I of course chose this....and of course as a watch lover I have all varieties and to be quite frank this watch is just as good as most other watches. Basically Sugess makes a good watch but you have to keep your expectations in line when buying from said brands. Cheers and all the best from Vancouver, Canada.
@@watchluster wow very comprehensive response! Interesting, I'll keep that advice in mind in case I encounter a similar thing when I get an ST19 movement myself :D Agree that budget comed with compromise, and also agree that such compromises are usually acceptable if expectations are kept in line. Cheers!
Thanks for the sub! Hope you get your Sumo wishes fulfilled just not with a sweaty person with about 300lbs of too much fat. All the best from Vancouver, Canada. Raining today again here jeez :O
@@psth3932 Nice mate, you'll enjoy that Sumo I'm sure greatly. Alpinist has always been on my radar and I absolutely told myself I would but the charm eventually faded. I was at that time looking for THE green watch but eventually as you know I ended up with the Sumo instead. Going with the green I assume? The compass ring never appealed to me and made the watch look too utilitarian for my tastes. All the best, and it's raining cats and dogs today here :)
It’s a nice homage piece. With those macro lens shots you can see the finishing on the hands and indices isn’t wonderful. At this price point it’s normal. But nothing extraordinary. If you look at Monta or Formex you’ll get better finishing overall. This is my opinion
I agree, the Monta and Formex will get you better overall fit and finish but you also tend to pay more for those offerings. I debated the Monta but none was available that I liked and also to be honest it was a bit too mature for me in terms of aesthetics or at least that's what I thought. The Formex has also crossed my mind but I never got along with their utilitarian look so much though they do offer some nice decent casual looks it really wasn't for me I realized. Good points and well received. All the best from Vancouver, Canda. -Martin
Nice review fellow new-ish reviewer! I do agree about this watch-the band is almost certainly a premium quality import. But the watch head itself is one of the very few American made pieces and the quality is top notch. Maybe they did make Rolex apes, but I am with you that people change and if you take this watch for what it is, it is excellent.
Hey WatchDanReviews, welcome to the 'watch' channel club :D Yea it's for certain that the band is an import or at least sourced to the 'right' type of people that do that kind of work :) Speaking objectively the watch is a beast of a watch and can pretty much top any other watch in this price range and more so as much as people love to rag on homages and ex-couterfeiters well it's hard to argue against something when it's so obviously BETTER in all regards than most other watches. It is a sad affair but imitation is often times how we all started to learn and as is said is well the most flattering of all compliments. All the best from Vancouver, Canada. -Martin
Owning 2 3rd gen sumo even having a 6 1/4 wrist with proper adjustments on the links fits like a charm. I was surprised initially. So basically did not buy 2 piece because I feel in love deeply but because I can’t pass on a very good offer. I admit that bought the first sumo hulk intentionally at half the price. It was owned by a European who used the watch as his beater so imagine scratched bezel and all straps have been scratched. Even though with the price he offered I took it. It’s now my beater then suddenly a couple of watch went on sale a sumo hulk in almost new condition and a new Monster Penguin for a price I bought the first sumo. Now I am still unable to modd either of them and still thinking on swapping with another watch. It is a stunning dial but since having 12 divers I am planning to reduce them.
Hi pinikpikantv3555, I gotta agree man, 12 divers?!?!?!!!?!! I think I'm at 14 that's currently in rotation with a few others that are out of rotation and I ALWAYS tells myself that I should reduce and have been for the past 10+ years but sadly the numbers just keep increasing and I can't do anything about that :D Sumo across all generations has something to offer for anyone that has an open mind I think, if you are closed about it and think narrowly about what goes on your wrist then you probably belong to the 1 watch only club. I wear the Sumo and it still gets good wrist time but I have moved on from steel bracelet and have put it now on a single pass leather NATO and it's a bit top-heavy but it's much easier to wear with activities. All the best from Vancouver, Canada. -Martin
I always felt the 12 o'clock marker looked more like a vagina / camel toe lol I wore mine every day until the GREEN Omega seamaster came out and i got that one
Hmm now that you mention it, it cannot be unseen! Dunno for some reason it reminds me of a video game like Quake or Unreal or Portal or something of that sort some kind of snazzy game aesthetic. Boo Omega boo lol well all the best to you, I'm glad that you moved on to something that you like even more hopefully. I have debated the Omega brand several times in my life but never pulled the trigger. Always just something else that's a bit more daring and peculiar. Thanks for the share and all the best from Vancouver, Canada. -Martin
Hey nicocalimero, totally agreed mate, the top time has a very retro vibe and I've seen it floating around but I gotta be honest I haven't really been into budget watches of late. I did splurge a bit a few years back and I appreciate some of them and still wear them the ones I do have but I am not really into them as of late. Why? Well I can't put an exact finger on it but I guess I just know inside that I have much better and more quality watches to wear so they become a bit of an accessory to the main course. I'll wear them but not as much as the other core collection which gets way more wrist time. I think the budget watch sector really is good if you want to try a certain design of a watch before you spend over 100x the actual cost for the real thing. Overall, I love these Sugess watches but I don't love them enough to wear them on a daily basis though they certainly are capable and worthwhile to wear everyday, just not for me. Cheers and all the best from Vancouver, Canada. -Martin
I bought the SBDC055 which is the PADI version of the 051 in 2019. It was my daily for about three years, and now I wear it from time to time. I’ve had it in the last couple of days and I still think it’s an amazing watch. It makes me feel a bit sad that these watches were loved for a few years, but then dropped for the newer 62mas models. Your video was very enjoyable and it’s great to see someone still loving their older 62mas reimagined.
Hi thetrentmeister, awesome to hear that there's a fellow enthusiast for this series of watches. I still wear mine and everytime I go to pick between SBDC051 and the SBDC101 I always, always always, except a few times go for 051. It has the looks and the ruggedness all in one. Whereas the 101 is well sort of lame really, it's like the difference between a sleek machine vs a functional machine that has no design :P I'm sure the argument can be made for which ever watch being the boring one but for me it's always been SBDC051 looking the best among all the Seiko divers' I own. Thanks for your comment and all the best from Vancouver, Canada. -Martin
I started considering seriously buying either the citizen or Casio Oceanus with GMT. it seems like a good balance between the looks of an analog watch and practicality of a smartwatch. But for the love of god, what is this lume? Who in Citizen thought it’d be a good idea to illuminate only the hands without the indices.
Hi aierlspalter7425, I have both as I have reviewed both....and my vote goes to Casio Oceanus. The lume on both isn't very good but that's a given in this sector, you can get better lume with Seiko's offerings like the Astron but those tend to wear thicker than these other offerings. The Casio gets my vote really due to the ease of use and the THICKNESS. I harp on about the thickness of watches but in my daily life the thickness is what tends to get in the way. With or without cuffs, if a watch is bulky you'll feel it one way or another. There's times where sure I'll wear a thicker watch but, as I've grown older I am just getting more senile about the whole thickness thing I guess. Anyways thicker watches no fun, thinner watches is funner, but too thin is zero fun :( All the best and I hope you find the best watch for your daily life! -Martin
I have one of these; I got it in 2020 from LIW. Mine has the Sellita movement. It has a slightly different clasp & doesn’t include a dive extension. It really is a nice watch; I should probably wear it more than I do.
Hi chriscon8463, you hit it man... Interesting to hear that Squale was releasing them before with a diff movement and diff configuration. You are right, for both of us.... It really is a nice watch I just hate the bracelet and if I do put it on leather or something else I just feel like I have other watches that better fit the situation so I'm really torn about this one. I don't want to sell the watch but I feel like it just sits around and stares back at me, laughing at my inability to control my watch purchasing habits. So overall yes I'd like to wear the watch more but I just don't like it so will have to move on. All the best from Vancouver, Canada. -Martin
Davosa Ternos I think you mean? Tuseno is a watch brand altogether the one with the sandwich. Looks decent was interested in it for a moment but later wasn't.
Hi younusimam-thesalamproject6340, thanks for having a laugh! Seagull offers lots of variations within their watches and of course some are much more dressier than others. I suggest you try visiting their website here: www.seagullwatchcompany.com/seagullwatches
To solve the nato problem, wear it on a Marine Nationale style strap. Tend to be thinner and add less height to the watch than a NATO and they’re so, so comfortable!
Hi thetattedpharmacist3215, yes I have been wearing this watch on a single pass leather NATO which I use to have on my Orange Monster and it fits like a beauty. Thanks for the suggest and all the best to you from Vancouver, Canada. -Martin
Very cool watch. I’m strongly considering one soon. I can pick one up right now from a local online AD (I’m in Australia) for $759 local currency, or $500USD at the current exchange rate!
Very nice watch! Thank you. if I wear this nice watch will many ladies enjoy looking at me? I might buy green sumo if you think it attracts many ladies. Thank you.
Absolutely, when this watch makes an appearance in public areas, it just makes eyes turn unknowingly. And all ladies know that big watches mean big............ I'm asian s.h.i.t....
The 1545 case shape might not be a sub homage.... Look at the 1960's Atmos 25.... looks like a rolex sub but the years are interesting since the sub also got it's crown guards in 1959?
when i was young and blinded by japanese culture i was very intrigued by sumo wrestling .... but now that im old and seen the world ... i know its only because of gambling thats why the sport is so crazy in Japan
Hi awfully,average yes sumo is steeped in tradition and has a very long rich history but in the 21st century it's been mired in controversy and as you note gambling. The yakuza have always had a foothold into the sumo world, and even though their influence and power have waned in the modern world it's still pretty strong in the realms of sumo and to a larger extent pachinko shops that are still run in Japan. I don't really watch Sumo and I have no vested interest in it but I hope those athletes will be able to carry on the sport albeit with a bit more health in mind though that's just wishful thinking I guess. No matter what, the watch has no gambling or any controversy involved in it. All the best to you from Vancouver, Canada. -Martin
i have this watch and put it on a strapcode hexad with the adjustable dive extension its a beautiful watch but mine was not running well it went back to seiko and its fine now but its the least accurate automatic watch i own .
Sorry to hear that, I have to be honest I stopped tracking accuracy after I got my 3rd or 4th watch. I was all about it when I got my first one and then two but after that it was just sort of a backburner kind of thing.
I enjoyed the video and review of this watch. I think the watch is terrific at this price point and considering the quite interesting dial, even better. Thanks for a great review!
Hi mrthinkpositive-ty9hl, yes it's an absolute steal provided you are not an astrologer and think too much of what's on the dial. Those constellations make no sense and the orbits are all wrong but you know what's the funniest thing? It's that the detail on those planets are WAY better executed than most watches at the +5K range so what gives?!?! I still have and wear the watch, it just isn't part of the daily rotation but it does get time in every couple weeks. All the best from Vancouver, Canada. -Martin
