Automated set works and dogs are nice but you have to pay attention. My Dad had a Frick OO mill that he rebuilt with I beams and channel iron instead of wood for the carriage, husk and track. We powered it with a D4 Caterpillar diesel engine. There were a few mishaps while sawing and I got my bells rung good when a piece of slabwood caught on the saw and hit me going about 900mph. Dad was a good man but safety and he were not in the same realm. He would do stupid things like reach by the running 56" blade to remove a piece of slabwood or go down in the sawdust pit without shutting down the diesel. He never lost any fingers and neither did I but he taught me a lot about how NOT to do things. I still work full-time as a Stationary Engineer but I am very safety conscious. I like my body parts attached and in working order!!!
Awh! But there's always room for improvement. I'm always striving to grow and do a better job than I was able to in the past. Please keep an eye on my channel and see if I do. Thanks for watching and commenting
I wouldn't call it a bad day, both of you there left with no blood loss or broken bones. If you decked the open space between the blade and cab as far back as you can without impeding your log loading, I believe it would help a lot. Also, I would raise the outfeed belt some and increase its FPM. Your Offbearer wouldn't have to work as hard. Make sure your log dogs are sharp enough to firmly hold the log against the knee. In fact the whole carriage looks like it could benefit from a little TLC.
Been around sawmills, log yards, logging for sixty years. The stuff is dangerous. No amount of safety devices will stop all accidents. Fact is, all that stuff may contribute to things going sideways. You try to work as safe as you can but know stuff is going to happen. Cruising in the redwoods years ago. Eating lunch one day when about a hundred feet away, the entire top of a tree fell to the ground. Fifteen minutes later, and someone on the crew would have had a bad day.
Thanks for the awesome story. I had an Uncle who was in the Forestry Service in the Redwoods of California back in the 70's. Thanks for watching and commenting
When a log pinches that bad due to tension, flip it 90 degrees and saw it on the next face. If it pinches on that face too, then it should become firewood. Some trees grow on slopes and get so much tension in them overcoming gravity as they grow that they’re only good for firewood.
I've seen 9" band saw blades come off when a loose log gets pushed into them and the worst was a time when a saw found a singer sewing machine inside a large log ,which must have placed there early last century and the tree grew around it. 🙄🙄
@Mercmad finding a singer sewing machine? That's the craziest find I've ever heard of yet. That strengthens my hope to find that pot of gold in the log. Thanks for sharing and watching God bless, Shannon
slow down, make some improvements on your out feed to move the slabs away faster. You will get better and safer with time. Maybe don't try to saw logs that are so large and crooked until you are more comfortable with the machine. I could tell you were a bit nervous and unsure by the way you sawed. Again, take your time, maybe even go watch someone with a bit more experience saw a few days and have a good walk through with other mills to get some ideas. You are doing great from my point of view.
Thank you, Steve, I appreciate the advice and suggestions. I tell ya, I visited Bret and Andruw from Andruw's Lumber. He hammered my saw and spent the whole morning going over important things he wanted to be sure I was up on. After I got back and did what he wanted me to look over, that mill ran like it was a different one. There is another youtube guy called the Sawmill Pimp close by. He said I could come over anytime and check him out. I appreciate the kind comments. Thanks for watching
Maybe some coaching from Mark would be in order here, both operational and set up. The kinetic energy in that sawblade is nothing to take lightly. Thankfully you lived to saw another day.
Inattention, lack of maintenance, lack of guarding, not addressing a known problem only an idiot would be anywhere near this machine when it was operating.
Looks no different to the head rigs I worked on 40 years ago. Where,may I ask would you put guards? Everything appears to working exactly as intended so where is the lack of maintenance? Old style milling like this is hard dangerous work and fools are never tolerated so the safety aspect is addressed from the moment the saw is started.
I am telling you now way I would work on that mill I see at least 50 safety issues that need to be addressed you are going to get someone seriously injured or killed that has to be one of the most happy Hazzard mill I ever seen
@@templehillsawmill1748 well i was not trying to be a smart ellick but that is a lot of people get killed in a saw mill that delevery bely or what ever you call is all but usless like it is it needs to level with rollers
Need to take the guys cell phone away from him so that he has his undivided attention to the saw and log. This is a great way to get yourself or someone else hurt.
@@templehillsawmill1748 I am so glad that nobody got hurt. I like sawmills. It is so cool to see a what is inside a log. Sometimes there is gold and sometimes it is just to late. I am not sure why I like Mark so much. I sent him some of my metal art and I think you bought my bottle bass for the fund raiser. Good to see you!!!!
Not going like you planned 🧐 when incidents happen people like to call them accidents not thinking it was preventable, in your situation it was totally preventable, that first cut you could’ve stopped and waited for the board to be taken away so it didn’t get caught on the carriage, on the second incident you saw it was starting to bind and reversed, then on the third incident that was totally unnecessary, because you should’ve put the cant in the firewood pile. Hope you figure out how to prevent “incidents” because having an “accident” in your pants won’t feel good.
I can't argue with anything you said there. I agree it was totally preventable, and I do appreciate you pointing that out. I'm just getting started, but wanting to improve myself. Thanks for watching and commenting
My brother in law has a 40” saw similar to this. One day he and a helper was sawing an 8x8 in half when the cut was half through the beam pinched the back side of the blade hard enough that it flipped the board up in the air. When it came back down, it landed directly on top of the blade which Dug in an threw the beam 50 feet out of the back of the shop where it punched a 2 foot hole and broke a 2x4 stud like it was balsa wood. No injuries but two pare of underwear were never the same.
My Lord! My first thought would be, "Did we get that on film?" Thanks for sharing that. That's a scary and awesome tale. Thanks for watching and commenting
It's awesome how much power is there. I was hit in my fat belly from kick back on a 10" table saw. That hurt and was a little scary. Just can't imagine what happened there.
Same here on a 12" table saw a offcut came back at me so hard it would have impaled me if it hadn't hit my thick belt, the skin behind the belt and pants was torn and bloody bruise. One of a few close ones. Recently cut my knee open when I let a throttled off chainsaw in my left hand still spinning but thought it was about stopped but it caught my pants and that made it bite into my flesh, blood running down to soak my sock in seconds. Was fairly lucky healed up really well. First time in 35 years I cut myself with a running chainsaw. Man they cut skin like nothing else I wouldn't want to have a throttle on accident with one. Was using a old saw I don't use very often and not used to it, but it was the riggers gloves I was wearing out of the blue also, and when I held saw in one hand to bend down to move a log the saw handle rolled in my hand making bar drop onto knee. Point is be extra careful when using something different or in a different fashion to usual.
@@templehillsawmill1748 I'm sorry to see the damage caused by that log. I was surprised to see the blade wobble and wondered what damage may have been done.I run a 10" Lucas Mill in Australian Hardwood all on my own so I'm not pushed faster than I want to go by having to keep my off-sider busy and his wage worth the cut timber etc so I have time to take extra care, if blade catches bad enough the blade stops via some clutch. I note blade evenness and sharpness are important factors and wedging the cut on certain relief cuts. Only happened once in over 10 years using them, usually if the cut closes up the blade keeps spinning and engine labors hard and you can hold the carriage from running away while you quickly close the throttle and then wedge the cut if the log hasn't moved keep cutting from there. I would love a carriage mill like yours but they are very dangerous from what I see, productivity is awesome with two guys but no amount of extra productivity is worth a serious injury. Accidents must be avoided at every cost, there's too many bad stories in saw milling. May Father Bless you and your mill.
Tks God No got hurt 😔, remember at the sawmill got to THINK 🤔 SAFETY and always put SAFETY FIRST . I see spruce lumber 🪵 crab the saw blade and go flying threw the air at highway speed . Get a D6 CAT DEISEL turn up 🔝 on cutting 33’ feet logs 🪵 watch its if spruce . Fir , pine , cedar and any hardwood is all right . 8’ 6” foot 🦶 logs is a long time getting board feet 🦶 out in a day . We call it wait off good time on a sawmill.😊
My question is why do you let the carriage travel past the saw and the splitter your gonna get hurt or your off bearer,thats how stuff gets between the splitter and the saw . Not trying to be smart but I worked on a mill just like this
Well, Doug, I really didn't realize I am doing that. But, I will work on not doing it because I can see what you're saying, and it sounds good. Let me ask you about the carriage pump unit. I'm not getting but 300 lbs of pressure, and I have spoken to that D&D Sawmill Services and was told it should have 1,500 lbs. He was supposed to get a price for me but hasn't. The carriage is really slow to respond in either direction. Sometimes it won't finish cutting and I have to back up and take off again. Does your saw have 1,500 lbs? Or would you even worry about it? It will saw but not as responsive as I feel it should be. Thanks for asking about that. I really didn't know that I shouldn't.
@@templehillsawmill1748 I don't know about the pressure,our carriage and set works look just like (sold out in 2005) but was powered by electric . Do your belts slip when it won't finish the cut?
@dougsmith9099 No, sir, belts don't slip. Saw doesn't slow down. The carriage will just slow down and act like it just runs out of horse power. But, that only happens from time to time. The biggest problem is trying to stop the carriage before it hits the stop if it returns too fast. Or when it's time for it to return, it takes forever for it to start moving. I feel like the fella at D&D Services is right, saying the pump needs rebuilt or replaced. I appreciate your interest and sharing some knowledge.
@@templehillsawmill1748 are they telling you that it's in the valve body for your carriage control lever? I don't ever remember if we rebuilt that or not,is there a filter on the hydraulics
@dougsmith9099 they are saying the pump itself should have 1,500 lbs. The valve is OK, and it does have a filter that I replaced a few weeks ago, along with draining all the fluid and replacing with new.
I think you are quite careless. To me you have created your owne accidents. You are also very disrespectful to your offbearer! You start retracting the sled while his hands are in harms way! I wouldn't want to be near machinery you are operating. Also you need to slow down the feed and alow your helper to clear the cut material. Those were totally avoidable!
Chuck, I appreciate your observation and commenting on my poor operating skills. I certainly want to improve my sawing. I couldn't agree more that the accidents were 100% avoidable, but accidents do happen regardless, and I wanted to share this video showing what had happened. As for the safety of my off bearer; I will forever remember what you have said here today and will pay more attention to where he is at all times. I do appreciate the candid comments, and thank you for watching.
@templehillsawmill1748 Your response is very commendable!! Many people would take criticism poorly! Believe me, I don't intend to bash anyone. I just don't want to see anyone hurt! Equipment although expensive, can be repaired or replaced. Lives and limbs can't. It seems your dogs aren't biting very well or don't have enough pressure??? Putting that freshly cut piece of lumber on top actually made things worse. You lost any bite the dogs would have had. Fix things up and cut some more lumber. Thanks again for the gracious response. Many uncaring people would have negatively responded. You are a true gentleman!
@@templehillsawmill1748 I do believe the "off bearer" could have sharpened his work rate without compromising himself, with that body language he would never work with me. just sayin'
@@gala1ish using his mobile phone is dangerously slack of the off guy. seems to have little regard for his own safety, or is blindly unaware of the dangers ?? hope his health insurance is up to date !!
most of the time when a grease fitting won't take grease U can sometimes use something sharp and push the check ball in and see if it works the whole grease fitting may be stopped up I say it may be from old grease then U might have 2 put new grease fittings in U try and see if U wash the old 1S out clean and most people find metal in a log they dig out and U do what U have 2 get it out or U will be putting a new set of saw bits in the saw blade a nail is bad enough that will ruin a few saw bits it's takes time 2 change them out then U have 2 use a saw blade wrench and a nail or a steel pin 2 change the bits take the old 1S out and put new 1S in 😊😊/ that other machine U might have use the bucket 2 get the track off the ground it might work that way so U can grease it I haven't work on them be 4 is there anybody close by U ask about it 😊😊 OMG 6 3O 2O24
I have tried changing the fitting, heat with a torch, jacked the track off the ground, power pack into the fitting. Next thing I'm taking the entire carriage off and put new bushings in. I appreciate you taking the time and helping
A contractor that brings me logs sometimes needs some decking boards. We hope to saw some of that this week or next. Thanks for watching and commenting
that's the 1ST time 😮😮 I seen that be 4 / 1 the board fell off right 👉 😮 at the carriage wheel 2 the rest of the log looks like it wasn't dogged down that's not good either 3 and when running trims U use a edger most Sawyers don't fool W that it takes a long time U are looking at lumber production in a day's time so U can a tractor trailer of lumber 4 the week 😊😊 OMG 6 3O 2O24
When I’m sawing and the dogs slip off try not to panic hit the E-stop and don’t move the carriage until sawblade stops turning We have a vertical edger so when that happens it hits the edger and shoots back 50 feet
It was disconnected when I bought the mill, and I really just haven't given it any thought. I think it would only take a short chain to put back in service. Trying to remember I think Mrs. McCoy told me she didn't like it and took that chain off. I think I remember her telling me that? Thanks for asking
Right on !!!! The first was operator not paying attention that the slab went sideways and he pulled it back into the blade...launch time !!! And the last 2not paying attention if the dogs were down and holding....pay attention !!!
