I'm on joists (there's a basement below my theater), and my 4 x 18" subs are doing some infrasonic now. If I add these, they're gonna be a pain in the butt to setup and sync up; all tactile transducers are, so this doesn't seem like the product for me.
They're actually quite easy to setup and sync up. You have to be way off in timing to have an issue and with a test tone on repeat, it's easy to fix in under a minute. You can have 100 subs and they will not do what these do which is give a tactile response at all levels and one that you can control and dial in to perfection.
@@hometheatergurus I understand what you're saying, but then it also doesn't make sense. Tactile transducers are shaking your seat right? So if you have a sub on the same platform also shaking your seat, what's different from that and a device under the legs? Is it just more specific to the seat or you can reduce sub "boominess"? What am I missing?
This isn't a basic video and it's not meant to be. This is for those wanting to get more from their systems. It takes some learning on your part and patience to understand it. Most that are into a hobby want to learn. If you read the comments you'll see many have used this and achieved far better sound. You're the first to complain it's not basic. An depth ARC video was requested heavily for over a year before I had to time to make it.
I feel like its pretty easy to learn that the off button is on the top left. It’s the most common location for a off button since remotes have existed. Its not a big deal. And why would anyone set the remote down with the screen down? You’re creating your own problems.
So the Atmos overhead speakers should not be, vertically, right over you (0 degrees)? The should be forward...a little in front of you (30 degrees or so)? And you should make this top front instead of top middle?
Love the videos, so incredibly informative. I'm a math guy with a background in audio engineering so it's all clicking. I'm planning a 5.2.4 setup and want to get this right, so I have 2 questions. My room is 14 feet wide, 22 ft long, 8.5 high. What angle would you put the rears at? I watched prev videos talking about 60 degrees all the way around but 5 channels won't cover that. Also - "toe in" means just AIMING the speaker, correct? Thank you so much!
My room is small and I’m only 10’6” from the screen. My ceiling is 11’ high room is 13 deep and 10’6” wide. One of the back corners is angled so I’ll have to put my surrounds on the wall in front of me. Should I mount the atmos on poles down a few feet from the ceiling? Also should I do top front or top middle?
Thanks so much! I have been avoiding using a SPL meter because I wanted a quality one. Well your tip to use anything, even a cellphone since it will do it equally to all channels, was the best practical advice I've taken away this year. Finally I hear everything as it should be and what I've always expected. I always felt like I could differentiate the volume by ear. Wow was I wrong. Just had to let go of my pride long enough to try what everyone has said for years.
Huge thanks for this one, I have no idea what I'd have done without this. Googling "speaker placement" is just chaos, but this layed everything out perfectly. Paired with episode 49, I think I'm pretty much set for 7.3.4! Not to mention how helpful the REW tutorial was for those 3 subs.
You'd use the type of panel needed at each specific reflection. See the channel videos and you'll find a 4 part series on panels. The last of the 4 goes over pretty detailed placement which will tell you what to use where.
@@darrenchase886 Poor mixes is very very rare. Almost non existent. When the studio mixes vocals are one of the key things they dial in to perfection. I honestly can't remember the last thing I watched that had "poor" vocals. Some Nolan movies during key scenes but that's by choice.
So would should I do in a bedroom setup more absorbion or diffusion? What should I place on the back wall? This is definitely not a dedicated home theater setup but always room for improvements thanks
I find that after audyssey setup, centre channel volume is extremely low and I can barely hear the audio (even with the global volume at 55 on the absolute scale). Against your advice I increased the centre channel level by 6db and also had to set Dynamic Volume to Light. Without these setting changes, the surrounds are great, but the dialogue is extremely poor. The centre speaker is placed right on the edge of my stand, alomost overhanging the edge by a few inches, at ear height, and there are no obstructions..
My advice is to never trust room correction. You should level match manually. If the room isn't treated you will likely have issues that result in people boosting the center.
This is a great video. I have the Logitech Harmony and have been curious about the up and coming devices with SofaBaton being one of them. I have been struggling with the Harmony not being able to control my lights and this video got me thinking about it. I came up with an option that works great for me and wanted to share. If you use Home Assistant, you can install an Emulated Roku and an Emulated Hue app that will allow you to tie into your smart home. I am now able to use the Harming home control buttons to control my lights AND I can hit the Pause button during an activity and turn on the LED light strips. I can then hit the Play button to turn them off when returning to the movie. Thank you Steve for this video as it helped me resolve one of my biggest issues. Appreciate you!
I just want to double check; do I a) look at the direct angle from my ear to the speaker cone, to be 55 degrees or b) I look straight forward, measure 55 degrees, look straight left, measure 55 degrees, and then find the intersection? (now the angle between my ear and the speaker cone is no longer 55 degrees, but rather something closer to 45. a) basically draws a circle around me, where as b) I think gets to a rectangle/square
Is there a similar diagram as shown in 11:05 for a .2 overhead speaker setup? I did some googling and found this PDF but couldn’t readily find any info for 2 over head speakers
The spacing of left to right is the same as if it's 4 or 2 atmos. The only difference is the 2 atmos speakers are more vertically above you instead of being futher forward. See page 20 of the Dolby studio guidelines
i have 5 in wall jbl studio speakers and a 400w sub. the sound is absolutely incredible. music or movies. off the chart. and i have had a lifetime of great speaker set ups.
Thanks for this info great work. I am using the Audyssey pro kit and am using my Marantz 8802 to set my subs crossover. On my Velodyne DD15+ sub I have a line level control setting and a speaker level control setting and also a high pass crossover setting 100 or 80 hz. What would I set these to BEFORE running my room correction. I know to set my low pass crossover to the highest setting on my sub but the other 3 settings I don’t know about. Thank
Could you use a higher end outdoor speaker like the Klipsch RSM-800? Black on a black ceiling, using the mounting bracket to point it exactly where you want.
Have a 5.1 speaker system. The 2 speakers that go in front ( not center ), my receiver has front speakers and front surround speakers. Which is the best connection for the best experience.
You didn't talk about the physical dampening of the cone that occurs in a sealed enclosure, but does not occur is a ported enclosure, at least not at the same level. Without servo control, the sealed enclosure will be more accurate and tighter. Changing EQ settings will not change this. There is no free lunch. You can't have the extra efficiency down low and not have a cost somewhere else.
Hello Young Handsome Sir! From the MLP, looking up at all four height channels, they all measure a perfect 45 degrees. Triad doesn’t live here, so we’re stuck choosing between the Klipsch THX 5002L & Klipsch PRO-180RPC LCR. The Klipsch THX has more output (2 x 5.25” drivers + front port aimed straight down, 1” tweeter aimed at MLP - 45degrees) yet the Klipsch PRO has both driver+tweeter aimed (8” driver + 1” tweeter aimed at MLP - 45degrees). Which would you personally choose in this toss up Young Handsome Awe-inspiringly Intelligent Sir?
What is the ideal choice of atmos speakers if you could go either way? In ceiling speakers or bookshelf’s used as high speakers ? I see so much content on why go either way but was is your opinion to get maximized atmos experience ?
This was actually shown in the video but in ceiling is the roto sat as no other in ceiling i've seen can pull off the needed aiming to perfectly dial in atmos. Bookshelves work if you have the ceiling height. Watch the video all the way through and you'll understand the real goal with atmos.
I angled my surrounds forward a bit, so I can see them but keep them slightly above ear-level because those are the heights of my speaker stands. Is that okay or should I be moving them back more and putting them up higher? You had another video on angles. I'm afraid surrounds and rears will be too close wit those angles. I'd have to move the rears closer together to get better separation.
How would you recommend fixing this issue if I don't have room for front wides because they'd be in the walkway? Is there a way to make the panning sound better by angling the speakers more?
After seeing multiple theaters, the thing I liked the best were deeper rooms. My room doesn't have enough depth, so stuff that should pan around and go through the room happens very fast, and you don't get that separation. I'd love to add 2 front wides, but I don't have room for them. In fact, I'd like a center back too, but I'd need a Storm or Trinnov for that guy or I have to choose to lose both rear surrounds. I'm excited to move into a new house and build a bigger theater, so I can add more speakers. Can't wait to have side surrounds slightly behind me and front wides to widen the sound stage!
Angles are angles so depth doesn't matter as long as the speakers are at the same angle. The speed objects pan is the same. If a sound moves from a main at 26 degrees to a rear at 150 degrees the timing to get from one to the other is exactly the same in a short room or a long room. Depth does help you get the rears further away so you get better imaging and better coverage but that's not a timing issue.
I cannot have the side surrounds because there is a door/opening where it should be placed. I can do Rear/back surrounds, di-pole/bi-pole. Should I go for Ceiling mounted side surrounds, or forget about that , and just do height channels instead?
5.1 has side surrounds. you can misplace them but you then have objects that should be to the sides misplaced behind you. That may just be an issue you have to life with. bipoles can't fix that. YOu can't misplace a speaker and make it sound like it's somewhere it's not, well in some cases you can by using reflections to steer a speaker but that's another topic.
None of this matter because at the end of the day every single surround sound setup will only have one hot spot, I don't care what you do there is only one hotspot . There for a wide is not required !
Thank you for another excellent video, it helped me designing my living room home theater. My sound system consists of 6 SVS Ultra Bookshelf speakers (2 for the mains, 2 for the side channels, and 2 for the rears), an SVS Ultra Center speaker, 4 SVS Prime Elevation speakers ceiling mounted for Dolby Atmos and 2 SVS SB-3000 Subwoofers. The system is powered by a Parasound Halo A52+ 5 channel amplifier and a Yamaha Aventage RX-A8A 11 channel AVR with dual AC Infinity AIRCOM T9's keeping them cool, and all are connected to a Panamax M5400-PM Power Conditioner. The output power of this Living Room home theater system is 2,800 watts R.M.S.
You're not screwed but it does take some trickery. Extreme cross aiming and ideal placement will help a ton. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_x0O-YzBMzQ.html
When I set up my 5.1 for the first time, i used the microphone and let the receiver do the adjusting automatically but when i tried a DVD, the dialogue was so low I had to go back and set it up manually and increase the volume quite a bit in order to hear the dialogue clearly.
@@hometheatergurus I use BIC speakers all around except for the sub. I placed center right below TV and I tilted it up a bit to aim directly at my sitting position.
