Tech Nirvana I seriously doubt that fan is giving the engine any more air to grab. Most likely the engine is already pulling more air than that fan is supplying so it's probably restricting more air
Well yes we have all agreed its not having much of an effect, I doubt its restricting the airflow in any way seeing as that fan sounds like its spinning ridiculously quickly, fan blowing air down a pipe while you suck on one end vs sucking air down a pipe with just your lungs which is more restrictive??
From an engineering standpoint,that's actually more like a centrifugal type supercharger as opposed to a turbocharger since it's running off of an electric motor and not exhaust gas heat and pressure. While the compressor housing and fan resembles that found on a turbocharger,the centrifugal type supercharger also uses a turbo style compressor housing and fan as well.
It's amazing he probably got that on Geek website where you could Double your turbo out point by installing a Turbo whistler that you hook on the exhaust. There's where real HP is made.
That was entertaining while sorting out my old bolts bin at 02 AM. You remind me of me doing crazy stuff when I was younger lol. 6v power wheels for my son? No way! We have a 12v lawn mower battery that isn't doing anything! Later at the ER my wife "explained" to me why I'm not a real engineer....
Might actually be worth subbing the channel so a few years from now when he gets a license and a car you can be entertained by him working on a crappy civic duct taping electric ebay super chargers and slapping GTR badges on it lol.
1) the battery leaks if it's not upright. 2) that battery is what? 20 amp? 10 amp? I'm sure that motor draws way more than that, that motor is the size of the battery lol. 3) that motor is probably spinning so slow because of the tiny power source that the suction of the intake is probably spinning the motor faster than it can spin itself. It's probably generating electricity. It's probably charging the battery, at the cost of making the bike slower.
Has anyone noticed the impeller blades are going the wrong direction? They are trying to scoop inward, fighting the centrifugal force. Amateur mistake by the Chinese designer. People taking this too seriously tho. Just have fun and make stuff. I used half a 1liter bottle and a plastic flexible gas can spout to make a ram intake scoop for my moped when I was a kid. Looking back now I'm sure it didn't work but it was fun and no RU-vid to post it on for some assholes to hate on it.
Steve M .....I think you mistaken....at 38 seconds of the video pause the frame and you can see that the blades are curved the correct way.... However he should have installed a 1-10 lb. pressure gauge on the tube and see if it did create any turbo pressure.
I think it could work better on a reed valve intake controlled 2 stroke engine to inject compressed air or Nos with fuel into the Crankshaft housing. The reason why this should be more effective is that the reed valves close the crankshaft housing. Then the piston go down and pump fuel mixture throuh channels into the cylinder. If you inject compressed air or nos you through a nozzle you can really reach some kind of extra boost pressure.
It wouldn't run lean because it's a carb so the higher pressure that goes through the carb the more fuel it'll add up to a certain degree to compensate, it's how a carb works...
Lewis Hall Yeah. That might be realistic when have the turbo before the carb and sucking through it. Now youre pressurising the carb and pushing the fuel out of the jets instead.... On a engine with a fuelpump you typicaly hade a progressive fuelregulator hocked up witch senses the boost and raise the fuelpressure above the boostpressure.
Michael Rodgers not necesscelery, its not injected, you’d blow the crank seals, and totally snuff out the vacuum diaphragm fuel pump, so it wouldn’t run at all. The inly benefit from boost on that engine is from minimal pressure & high volume, it counters the restriction of the stock filter, other than that, without a reed valve and a custom engineered exhaust port, expansion chamber/pipe, built and function tested, you’re on a snipe hunt with a paper bag, an air horn and a hat with a bright red and blue blinking beacon!
Lewis Hall 100% wrong. Fuel feeds into a walbro carb through a pair of paper thin flapper valves that operate by cycling vacuum surges, boost higher than the .5 Hg vacuum, back to atmosphere is what operates the pump, the carb is a pull from, not a push through, so the fuel pump has to supply a pressure greater than the boost forced into the carb, to function and it had a paradox without enough vacuum from somewhere to equally oppose the boost. Newtons law applies here, and even if it by some divine luck did manage to function normally, the air fuel charge would be blown out the muffler when the piston clears the exhaust and the piston’s downward movement via the bottom side is pressurizing the intake charge in the crankcase that had the mixture drawn into it on the previous cycle, since the pressure above and below the piston are factors in the design of the porting, with the elimination of the reed valve, the power chamber has the intake exhaust and crankcase pressure breather all open at the same time allowing the boost and fuel air charge to depressurize before being compressed by the piston, causing a lean condition across the board, unless proper counter measures are implemented, it will cause fuel starvation and boost pressure to push fuel from the bowls overflow, (CV carb,) or simply blow the diaphragm out (walbro)
He would have seen boost as well as shortened life span(piston) if he files his exhaust window a midge at the top. Works great on all us 2 stroke scooters. The limit output by de-tuning our engines via low exhaust port hight.
an electric turbo doesn't have the torque to make any pressure, it just gently blows some air in your intake but if it doesn't compress that means it doesn't give you any extra ponies but you already knew that?
Yes I just added 50 horsepower to my pocket bike with a plastic fan, some electrical tape, a 12v battery, and some zip ties! Whoda thunk that electricity has the power nessicary to not just move air but compress it too! I wonder why car manufacturers haven't caught on to this! Jeez kid you should write ford and tell them about your 50 dollar turbo and tell them to shut all there R&D depts down. Its ok guys! Just shut it down. We got bested by a kid and some electrical tape. I really like the line of tape you put on the turbo. Really gives it that proper heavy duty seal too.
if the bike went faster its because you leaned out the mixture if that blower actually pushed more air through without leaking you have to add more fuel when adding more air to make safe power same with the nos too
this does nothing, it's a fan, if you want power, install a quality big bore kit, learn to tune your carburetor and variator setup to use that power, that 50 could have gotten you a genuine Keihin carb which you can tune properly
@David Snyder this is a pocket bike and he was having fun. It's not a tractor truck or race car. We all know this wouldn't work but you don't have to hate
If you want to actually make a lot more power, I discovered a way on accident with a dirt bike. I suddenly noticed my little 125 4 stroke was extremely powerful and somewhat ridiculous compared to before. The fuel filter hung directly above the air filter, and the fuel filter was cracked and dripping onto it. The vapor from the wet air filter worked wonders with power. Probably real dangerous though.
Ok, richen up the carb or better yet find a different carb a few mm bigger and get a header then adjust the carb at full throttle with the wheel and blower spinning while it's on a stand. Then you will know if it did anything. You want the spark plug to be slightly tan and you may need to find the next hotter plug to keep it going. They use offset keys to adjust the ignition timing.
Technically it could be considered a relative to a centrifugal super changer, only separated by it having a stand alone drive that is not inducing parasitic loss or dependent on RPM as a classic example. Being that it should theoretically raise atmospheric pressure to some minute degree, it is "in all of it's pathetic attempt" a supercharger. A fan only moves open air.
Tuffenough4u it dosent create boost though boost needs a compresser and its not near enough vokume to do anything becides acually lower performance on the engine
Don't forget while watching this video , Hector is gonna be running 3 Honda civics with spoon engines and on top of that he just came in Harry's and ordered 3 t66 turbos and a motec system exhaust
Forced induction turbocharging is not something that works with 2 stroke engines. All you are likely to accomplish is to send unburnt fuel out the exhaust resulting in poor fuel economy. To increase performance on a 2 stroke you need an expansion chamber such as what resembles a fat exhaust pipe coming out of most 2 stroke motocross bikes. You will also need to re profile the the cylinder ports to accomodate the expansion chamber
you gotta fill that hole. And not with insulation tape. Something like jb weld putty (if they make it) or quiksteel is good for inlet leaks. The air ripping through will force channels through most glues and tapes.
Long story short my mate and I used to buy old kids electric ride on cars and put a car battery in didn't last as long but would haul arse lol so you should pull the turbo apart seal it all up putting back together and if you use 18v electrical tools try wiring it in motor may not last as long but if it's going to make a difference that will test it lol
Even if it does create enough pressure to force more air into your intake that doesn't mean anything until you create the correct air to fuel ratio, so you would need a computer hooked up to your ecu which you don't have
If you actually paid 50$ for that piece of shit, you were ripped off..! This so called "turbo", made out of dirt-cheap Chinese plastic shit, ain't worth a flying fart..!
Hey Dylon, I am doing a senior project on installing a turbo on a moped, and I need to interview someone in order to finish my project. Maybe you could answer a few questions over email? If not, then don't hassle yourself. Thanks!
level1samurai exactly snd that plastic piece of crap aint making any boost my brother just got one the other day were going to stick it on my son 4wheeler just for the look. Donate 50 to some homeless person would be a better way of wasting your money lol
Travis, it's Break* not Brake. Also Super chargers is belt driven, turbo's is exhaust driven. This would be an E-charger if it was real. In this particular case, it would actually just be called a shiny hair dryer.
Great video Dylon! I love seeing that Turbo setup fit so nicely. This bike is gonna be one sweet ride when you are finished! Thank you for the shout out! I really appreciate that. :) Can't wait to be in future videos! #over9k
People keep tearing the guy a new one. Yeah it might not work, and it might be questionable calling it a turbo, but I really enjoyed his enthusiasm and passion in this vid!
You could use that little hole in the intake pipe for a vacuum/pressure gauge. It looks like the impeller is the wrong shape for the casing... its spinning the wrong way
I'm sure other people have pointed this out, This is not a turbo, This isn't even really a supercharger. Turbos work by spooling up a turbine with expanded hot exhaust gases, with a compressor connected on the same shaft this in turn it spools up the compressor and compressing air for the intake, using the unused energy in the exhaust gases, Making it a great choice for efficiency. Superchargers works in a similar way, Except most superchargers are a Gear Pump rather than a Turbine. Superchargers also use the engines energy to compress the intake gases rather than the exhaust gases, Thus making them typically less efficient than a turbocharger, however they do have two main benefits such as they have no "Turbo lag" The time in which the turbo takes to spool up before you get any noticeable results in performance, This isn't a hit for large transport vehicles / boats as they are mostly cruising at high speed, Thus the small amount of lag is not an issue for that application. Superchargers also tend to last longer as most of them operate at lower RPM's and with less to no dangerous levels of heat involved. Both of the above have either low mechanical loss or actually make use of unused energy meaning they have negative loss (Such as a turbocharger) However the "Turbo" you showed on the video has more loss then all of the above and its design is simply flawed, And here's why: With both the Turbocharger and the Supercharger They respond by increasing power though ether RPM or Exhaust gases produced, This means that the device will increase power as the engine increases power, To properly compress gases for a decent performance boost this takes alot of energy, However it also typically puts out MORE energy than it takes to run the turbo, You will of cause reach a point of diminishing returns. The device shown in this video does NOT respond to engine RPM, This means it has to be ether running at full bore or nothing. This is bad as you will get MUCH higher loss than conventional "Boosters" However the disadvantages don't stop there, As this is a likely Brushed electric engine, this means you have no way of controlling the speed without altering the voltage However this reduces torque, Unlike a PWM electric motor that can produce far FAR more power more efficiently and can Hold an almost perfect RPM when needed as it is electronically controlled. While this would give this device a much needed boost, and almost make it practical, it would still not preform as well as a conventional supercharger in the long term. As there is energy loss when generating, Storing, Modulating, and driving the Motor. Electric superchargers are just a BAD idea. You can pick up a old Turbo for under 50$ from a wrecking yard, That would have worked far better if you could find a small one for this engine.
I surprised what engine don't stop when you turning this "charger" on. If you blow air in carburetor it stop working because intake pressure grows too high. Simplest way to charge this motor is a mounting charger AFTER carburetor.
That's the sickest turbo setup i eve r seen man. And you can buy it anytime your in the hair section with your girlfriend. Who knew this whole time that they would hide badass turbo's in the hair section.
If you put more air, you have to add more fuel too, in order to get more power. If that turbo really worked, you could end up breaking the engine because of the lack of fuel.
Dont laugh,I saw a WRX with the turbo and many accessories held together with JB Weld. And saw him make 3 quarter mile runs,and drove home. But I think you could measure the psi with a asthma breath guage,from your local friends little brother or Walmart pharmacy. Or a nursing home grandparents roomie.
Just wondering why you think wiring ANything to the spark plug wire would do anything for your electrical addon? The spark plug relies on a magneto (i assume) on that tiny engine. The magneto generates a spark by passing a magnet through a magnetic field..... It's not a generator though. It only produces 1 spark when it is supposed to spark. It does not make a steady/constant supply of current. Then later I noticed you Zooming the little toy fan with the bike engine off.... So i du o what you were trying to convince people of with that yellow wire..... Just wondering.
It would have been safer for you to use a clamp opposed to any kind of tape to prevent the blower from rising up, causing the pipe to become pushed farther into the blower.
