बेलायत को प्रसिद्ध अख़बार “द गार्जियन” ले लेख्छ नेपाल का जनजाती समुदाय बाट अत्यधिक धर्म परिवर्तन गराइदैछ यस को मतलब हो जनजाती समुदाय को भाषा,धर्म, संस्कृति र जातिय पहिचान समाप्त पार्ने र तिन हरु लाइ सधै का लागी इसाइ बनाइदिने र तिनै लाइ प्रयोग गरेर आफ्नै देश र इतिहास बिरुद्व प्रयोग गर्ने ।
The disparity and backwardness in Nepalese society will continue to remain unless people stop giving significance to their specific caste and groups. I have seen multitude of instances were Upadhay Bhramins donot marry Jaisi Bhramins. This sort of practice has been rampant among other different castes. Time has already arrived to take this matter seriously, and give emphasis to profession and intelligence of a person rather than puting tag of apartheid caste.
निकै राम्रो अन्तर्वार्ता रहेछ। केही टिप्पणीहरु गर्न मन लाग्यो: १) जसरी पहाडका ब्राह्मण र क्षेत्रीहरु खस हुन्, त्यसरी नै पहाडका दलितहरु पनि खस हुन्। वर्णाश्रम व्यवस्थाले यिनीहरु विभक्त भएका हुन् परन्तु यिनीहरु एउटै जातिका हुन्। २) पहाडका ठकुरीहरु खस राजघराना र मगर राजघरानाहरु बिच हुनेगरेको बिहेबारीका उपज हुन्। यस अर्थमा ठकुरीहरु खस पनि हुन् र मगर पनि हुन्। अर्थात गोर्खाको शाहवंशको उद्भव पनि खस र मगरहरुबाटै भएको हो, भारतका राजपूत वा मुसलमानहरुबाट भएको हैन। थर खाँड (अर्थात खड्ग) हो, खान हैन। (परन्तु एउटा रोचक कुरा- शाह राजाहरुको कुलदेवी स्याङ्जाको आलमदेवी मन्दिरमा पुजारीहरु राणा मगर समुदायबाट छनिन्छन्।) ३) ऋगवेदको पुरुष सूक्तले वर्णहरुको उत्पत्तिको बारेमा मात्रै बोलेको छ, वर्णाश्रम र छुवाछूतको बारे बोलेको छैन।
I hope everyone understands things like you. I am devastated to see hatred against khas people these days. Khas people has always been an integral part of this land.
today's program has no expiry date,more days it goes it will take different shape by itself. I like the guest & his wisdom enlightened me. thanks alot Tikaram sir!!!
The disparity and backwardness in Nepalese society will continue to remain unless people stop giving significance to their specific caste and groups. I have seen multitude of instances were Upadhay Bhramins donot marry Jaisi Bhramins. This sort of practice has been rampant among other different castes. Time has already arrived to take this matter seriously, and give emphasis to profession and intelligence of a person rather than puting tag of apartheid caste.
सौरभ संग तपाईको बौद्धिक,बिचारोत्तेजक,सन्देशमुलक,ऐतिहासिक तर्कयुक्त आरोह अबरोह,बिदेशि विभिन्न मिसनको नेपाल मोह र त्यसले खलबल्याएको नेपाल र नेपाली समाज र त्यसको प्रभावका बारेमा जानकारिमुलक मन्थन सुन्ने हेर्ने ईच्छा म जस्तो धेरैको रहेकोले मेसो मिलाउनु हुन आग्रह छ प्रस्तोता संग।
नेपाल मा इसाईहरु हिन्दु भन्दा पनि बुद्धिस्ट सिद्द्याउने कार्यमा लागिपरेका छन । भेडो जनजाति एकोहोरो मेरो प्रभु मेरो प्रभु यसु भन्छन । थुक्क बुद्ध छोडेर खैरे यसुको पछि लाग्ने ? त्यस्तो वाहियात बाइबल बकम्फुसे काल्पनिक अबैग्यानिक कुरालाइ ईश्वरको वचन मानी आफ्नो धर्म संस्कृति छोड्ने बाहुन र जनजाति नेपाली बास्तबमा नै सन्सारकै मूर्ख हुन
Sambu Raut चिप्लो कुटिल कुरा बोल्नुभन्दा सिधा स्पष्ट बोलेको राम्रो हो । मैले धेरै यस्तो इसाई देखेको छु जो बुद्ध लाई यसुको तुलनामा रत्तिभर महत्त्व दिदैनन जबकी ती स्वयं पहिले बुद्धिस्ट थिय । यदि इसाई हरु नेपाल को कुनै पनि चिजलाइ माया नगर्ने हो भने किन नेपाली भन्नू त ? किन यो देशमा बस्नु त ?
@Surendra The disparity and backwardness in Nepalese society will continue to remain unless people stop giving significance to their specific caste and groups. I have seen multitude of instances were Upadhay Bhramins donot marry Jaisi Bhramins. This sort of practice has been rampant among other different castes. Time has already arrived to take this matter seriously, and give emphasis to profession and intelligence of a person rather than puting tag of apartheid caste.
I would love to read a book written by Sujith Mainali collaborated with Shaurav, every evidence and every proof which analyze the westerner core interest of tiny Himalayan kingdom. Thank you Tikram Yatri Sir for inviting Sujith Mainali sir, this guys really knows a lot about British East India Company cunning mentality towards Kathmandu (1762-1846 ). Bharat Dahal would fit quite comfortably in next episode of "Tamaso Ma Jyotirgamya".
Sujit jee has a lot of study, research and a very balanced analysis of history. In my view, one of the best modern historian of Nepal. Please invite him next time also
नेपाली समाजमा असमानता र पछाडिपन तब पनि कायम रहन्छ जबसम्म मानिसहरूले आफ्नो विशिष्ट जाति र समूहलाई महत्त्व दिन छाड्दैनन्। मैले धेरै उदाहरणहरू देखेको थिएँ उपाध्याय बाहुनले जैसी बहुनसँग विवाह गर्दैनन्। यस किसिमको अभ्यास अन्य बिभिन्न जातिहरु बीच व्याप्त छ। यस मामलालाई गम्भीरतापूर्वक लिन समय आइसकेको छ। हामीले तुरुन्तै रंगभेद जाति प्रथालाई महत्त्व दिन छोड्नु पर्छ। बरु हामीले पेशा र एक व्यक्तिको बुद्धिमत्तालाई जोड दिन पर्छ।
विश्व भक्त दुलाल (आहुती)जस्तो ब्याक्ती हरुलाइ किन यो टि.भि.मा ल्याइदैन..? टिकाराम सर कहिलेकाही त भासिक,धार्मिक,सांस्कृतिक,उत्पीडित हरु को माझ बाट पनि एका,दुई ब्याक्ती हरु ल्याउनु नि।
Thamu Grg विश्वभक्त दुलाल बौद्व धर्म र किराती धर्म सखाप पार्न खोज्ने मिशनरी को एक मान्छे हो, तपाइ हरु लाइ लाग्छ होला आहुति तपाइ हरु को पक्ष मा बोल्छ भनेर तर तपाइ भ्रम मा हुनुहन्छ, आहुति किन माओबादी बाट अलग भए किन पश्चिमा मिशिनरी हरु ले आहुति , युग पाठक हरु जस्ता लाइ पैसा दिन छाडे यो बुझन जरुरी छ, आहुति र युग पाठक जस्ता ले जब आफ्नै देश बिरुद्व बोल्छन भने जाबो उत्पीड़न मा परेका हरु कुन खेत को मुला हो?
Thamu Grg तपाइ हरु को हिजो सम्म न भाषा समाप्त भएको थियो न धार्मिक र सांस्कृतिक नै.. अब आउने दिन हरु मा समाप्त हुनेछ, २०६२/६३ देखि पछि तपाइ हरु को गुम्बा आजभोली चर्च बन्दैछन ,बौद्विस्ट र किराती हरु क्रिश्चियन हुदैछन, हिजो राजसंस्था र हिन्दु धर्म हुदा एक जना गुरुंग ,राइ लिम्बु लाइ हिन्दु बनाएको तथ्य छ? आज केहि बर्ष मा हेर्नुस जनजाती समुदाय बाट कति इसाइ बने? मेरो तर्क तपाइ हरु लाइ नराम्रो लाग्न सक्छ होला , तपाइ हरु आफै पतन को बाटो तिर लाग्दै हुनुहन्छ समय मै बिचार गरौ।
विश्व भक्त दुलाल इशाइ मिशनरी वा अरु कुनै एजेन्ट हुन कुनै सरोकार भएन।वहाँ ले जो बोल्नु हुन्छ।त्यो केही हद सम्म सच्याइ छ।किन किन १९१० को मुलुकी ऐन ले त्यो कुरा प्रस्ट अनि प्रमाणित पनि गरेको छ।लोकतान्त्रिक हिसाब र तरिका बाट जो कोहि ले पनि बोल्न पाउनु खोज्न पाउनु कुनै एउटा नागरिक को नैसर्गिक अधिकार हो।यसमा आरोप लगाइ हाल्न पर्ने के छ कारण ?आरोप बस आरोप मात्रै कि प्रमाणित पनि भएको छ।जान्न चाह्न्छ।
Captain Knox mission to Nepal in 1801-1802 was a vital reason behind clans fight between Thapa and Pandye. Captain Knox played a strategic role to understand each and every single thing about Royal Family of Nepal and I think it could be Rana Bahadur Shah step brother sher bahadur whom they got a lot of information about political turmoil of Nepal palace.
yeuta kuro chai yekdam sahi lagyo saha haru magar nai hun bhanne ma kina ki ma yeuta magar cast ho hamro kul mandir juaha kul puja hunxa raja haru ko pani sangai yeutai mandir maa hunxa bhanesi magar hun bhanda k ko pusti hunu paro r jasto lagyo itihas yehi sachi xa rani mahal ko mathi alam devi ,ma gayer bujna saknu hunxa
shah haru suru ma khand thiyo, pachi shah title rakhyo. khand haru gandaki region ko thakuri ho, ra tini haru suru ma magar nai thiyo. tesaile shah haru jaha pani gayo, mandir banaye pachi magar pujari nai rakhyo chahe tyo manakamana hos wa kuldevi ko mandir haru.
Ravi Thapa thank you for your interest to know janajatis feeling . Personally, I don’t want to comment based on ethnicity or caste because I fear that I get racist tag from conservative people. For example, if I say there’s a discrimination based on caste, we need to tackle it , we need to conserve sub culture,language, customs, need to create environment for equal opportunities,etc . I get racist or backward tag . Ahileko jamanama pani k ko jat vatk o kura gareko yo manche desh drohi ho anarchist ho vanne gali khanu parcha. Tara yo samajma samasyata chani hamrai akha agadi jun kura lekhak le pani swikaar gareko paincha. Arko kura discrimination ko barema genuinely kura paila bata nai utheko kura ho Tara jaba yo muddalai Maoist ra bideshi INGos le kaadh ma halyo tespachi yeslai dushit parne kaam gariyo. They misused for their purpose. Yeti samma vayoki aile maile Dalit haru mathi utheko chaina , soshit chan vanda he yota Cristian or Maoist raicha vanchan but personally I’m not religious n I’m against Christianisation of our nation. But there’s a problem that’s need to be solved before it’s too late. Arko kura janjati Dalit Veda haru sabai Christian vaye vanne tarka. Prachande, baburam agents haru ra aru NGO lai welcome garne ra NGO KO paisa Khane ko hunta top level ma ? Who is main chief person to bring Christianity in Nepal ? He’s someone Brahmin from Pokhara( ref .Dr Jagman Grg ) . So no logic only blaming to particular caste. At the same time it’s important to identity the reason behind changing the religion. Some changes for money some do it to escape from discrimination. Arko point Yaha sabailai chinta cha desko barema it’s not only job of particular creed, race , class n caste as if particular group is against motherland. Read history of Gurung , Magars n other sacrifices during unification of Nepal 🇳🇵 So it’s time to solve the problem within,unite n respect each other’s culture n language n promote everyone local culture. How many Nepali non Gurung know about Loshar n celebrate? Hardly few know n celebrate, likewise how about Dhan naach, ubouli? Hardly few knows but don’t celebrate with them. But we celebrate Christmas n New Years/English one. So one should not think that Hindu, Nepali language, Daura surwal etc are only represent Nepal. There’s more than that every local language, local culture, tradition is our national treasure. So let’s uplift some who’s behind us n work together n create United diverse identity. Thanks
Abhiman singh rana magar ra abhiman singh basnyat deuta manchai ho..abhiman singh basnyat 17 wa sadi ma ullekh cha ra abhiman singh rana magar 18 wa sadi ma ullekh bhako jaba jung bahadur rana le kot parva racheko thiyo
ठकुरीहरू सबै छेत्री , राजपुत नै हुन, गण्डक क्षेत्रका ठकुरीहरू मगर जस्तो देखिनुको कारण (बर्णशङ्कर) अन्तरजातिय बिहेबारी नै हो मगर भएर होइन । आजभोलि त देशैभरिका ठकुरी छेत्री योगी सन्यासी लगायत धेरै हदसम्म दलित समुदायमा पनि आदिवासी महिलाहरूसङ्ग बिहे गर्ने चलन (tendency) देखिन्छ ।यो tendecy or trend पनि अध्ययनको विषय हुनसक्छ तर जेहोस हामी सबै नेपाली हौ।
The disparity and backwardness in Nepalese society will continue to remain unless people stop giving significance to their specific caste and groups. I have seen multitude of instances were Upadhay Bhramins donot marry Jaisi Bhramins. This sort of practice has been rampant among other different castes. Time has already arrived to take this matter seriously, and give emphasis to profession and intelligence of a person rather than puting tag of apartheid caste.
Gyan Kunwar जहासम्म मैले बुझेअनुसार जंगबहादुर कुवर नै भसमसेनथापा का साैतेनि भाईका सालाे थिए र उनकाे बुबा त्यसै अनुरुप दरबार संगकाे हिमचिम हुदै उनले दरबारका अादेशमा अंग्रेज हरुलाइ काठमाडाै घुमाउने जंगलका बनस्पति र उपयाेगिता बारे हल्का अंग्रेजिमा जानकारि समेत गराउथे र निकै चतुर पनि थिय सिपाहि पनि हुन । अन्तमा साे कालखण्ड र दरवार भित्रकाे काे अापसि खटपटमा दिनानु दिन जानकारि पश्चात काेतपर्व गराउन पुगेका कुवर हुन र उनले नै सन्यासि जात बाट जात कायम गरेर जनै लगाई राजकाज गरेका हुन
मानव समुदायको एउटा अंश भैसकेपछि पहिले मनुष्य बन्ने प्रयत्न गरौं..... . ४ जात( Brahmana, Kshatriya , Vaishya, Shudra) एउटै देहका भिन्न रूपहरू, कहिल्यै पनी मिल्न सक्दैनन् . . (हि)मालय पर्वत शृंखला र (इन्दु) सागर [अहिले Indian Ocean]बीचको भूभागमा समेतीने religions हरूमात्र नभई मूर्ती, पशुपंक्षी, आत्माप्रमात्मा आदि सबैले हिन्दु पहीचान बोक्दछ. Whatever we talk about or however long we do, हाम्रो आध्यात्मिक स्तर “Abodh” नै ६
onion noino 4 barna ho jaat hoina. Kasaile jaat bhanxa bhane tyo alpa gyan ho. Hoina bhane nepal ka bahun haru sabai kina brahman hoinan? Kina khas pani bahun bhaye? Indian brahman le kina Nepali lai bharman mandaina?
G PS Thank you! *४ वर्णहरू ब्रह्मांड बुझ्न प्रयत्नशील रहेकालाई ब्रह्मांमन्(Brahman)बुझ्दछु ... त्यसैले Bahun शब्दकोबारे मलाई ज्ञान भएन.. माफ पाउँ... भारतसँग compare गर्दा - १००वर्षअधिक भारत Britishद्वारा शासित थियो. You can still see the Indian mind struggling to get out of that level of corruption that happened there. Note: १०० वर्षभन्दा बढी formally ruled by foreigners.. - Considering the population, and the competence that naturally happens there, त्यहॉको प्रखर ब्रह्मांनहरू यहॉका Bahun हरूदेखेर आश्चर्य मान्दछन् होला ... History shows there were very few but Capable ones in Nepali land as well..
Sujit, magar is not a race. Its a tribe. so is Khas. its a tribe. If Khas is a Arya-Khas then Magar is Arya Magar. You do your DNA testing and u will know what I mean. You mention that Jung Bahadur could be a Magar (you refer to Baburam Acharya). Ok he may have Magar physiognomy but that does not say anything about underlying DNA. In mountains father may look like -sterotypical Khas-Arya, mother Khas-Arya and their one offspring may look like Magar and another as Khas-Arya. Honoria Lawerence (wife of the British resident Lawerence) had mentioned in her diary that JUng's uncle his(mother's bro) Mathawar singh Thapa looked like an Afgan Pathan. As I know at the genetics level both khas and magars have percentages of European Ancestor, South Indian Ancestor (like today's anadaman nicobar people) and East Asian Ancestor genes. it defers in percentage. .u as a khas-bahun wuill have more european genes and magar will have more east asian genes) . We need a thorough rewriting of nepal's history based on availability of new scientific technologies that can be used, and also the student himself finding and reading the source materials. I would not count Leo Rose's book as 100% reliable. He has done lots of cherry picking. Also, agree with your points on Jung's British policy . u have hit the bulls eye. aba 2007 saal ko ra tyasa pachhi ko most of the materials that we have been reading are all semi-fiction including BP Koirala's atmabritanta. LEo Rose also sides with Nepali congress and does cherry picking. So key is do your own research and find source materials John Whelpton has not used primary material. Ghrisma Bahadur Devkota has not used either.
At 10.20 this host pretend too much dat he knows evrything usle bodh matra hoina praman nai vetiyi sakyo vanda tyo bodh ko praman vannus na vancha haha wat a silly twist of word k, bodh ko praman??praman lay satya ko bodh huncha hoina ra mr host jyu? So at least expert n scholar lai invite garesi sunne kosis garnu ho...
I fully agree with your Observation.I had the same reaction when he tried to twist bodh with fact. Bodh being subjective, the guest as an expert was right when he told that fact is something objective. I think Tika Ram Bro has some Ego Problem on knowledge, he is generally good but todays show depicted his Narcissist style. He should change this childish way , be more critical. Nobody owns History.Nepali media ko bidambana yahi ho afno bujhai anurup Twist hanne. Grow up Tika Bro !
rishi dhamala marka kaa haru vanda ta kei ho bt this journalist used a bunch of unusual words wch doesn't provide any special meaning nd watching his series of interview he twists too much on interpretation of sentence with guest experts which gives false sense...
Missionary lai PN le khedaye. British sanga lade.= Missionary ra British haru Nepalika lagi dusman bhaye. Tara bidambana dherai adheyeta haru tinai firangi ka lekhot lai adhar manchan ani Result kharab ta aaune bhayo.
Sujit mainali jyu le baudhik gyan ra tathya sangat jasto kura 6 tara presentation maa alik ramro vayena, ani jaha samma khaire paadari haru ko kura 6 uni haru ko lekh maa raja P.N shah laai khalnayak ko rup maa bahu chitran gareko vetin6 jun satte tathhe vanda pani suniyojit rupmaa naraamro paarna lekhiyeko ho jasto malai laag6...
Thakuri bhaneko chhetri caste honi sir, mamako chhori bihe gardaima magar hune vanne hudaina ra face milnuko karan interracial marriage le garda ho sir ra true fact is saying gandak's thakuris are magars is a political conspiracy ho sir jun hajurle pani belief garnu vayexa.
Thapa Magar chhetri hoinan thakuri hun rw tinihruko purka magar hun title mtra shah shahi rakheko hoo...Mathi sujit mainali ko tarka bujhnu hos rw kei brain use grnuhos....aru snga hepe mgne prabiti ko antea grau satya kura ko sath deau broo
