“I Don’t Even Think You Own It!” | Dragons’ Den 

@Alberto Demo Same here haha

Does anyone watch it for any other reason 😂😂😂

Wait people actually for the business lecture?

@@Islamicknowledge-yx8rt Nope 😁 Of course you do get those people who really have a good pitch BUT... The most dramatic is of the 2 guys who were trying the “Pyramid scheme.” Which if you’ve seen the American version of Dragons Den, it’s called “Shark Tank” lol watch @Coffeezilla ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-guY6w20Lv6o.html

Ugh when I find out its a good investment and dragons are interested im a little disappointed...... im here to see the real shite ideas

That brave brave woman who runs a £7 million business but doesn't know the difference between gross and net profit

@@davidmellish3295 @Mark S Lol

Pmfsl lol 👏👏👏😂😂😂

My stiches almost burst!

@@davidmellish3295 Yeah, but that's not taking into account Bryan's figures

🤣🤣🤣🤣

He may own "My Baby" the legal structure of a business, but he doesn't own the baby stroller product.

Yeah but no

Well said 😅💪

@@benjaminwilliams2404 You could probably work around the first four.

people with part equity have gotten investments before BUT it has to have a fair selling point and it helps when two or more of the shareholders are in the den

And don't forget 6. You know your numbers

...and you haven't included Brian's figures which are separate.

Not sure... looks like an old pitch from years ago, the dragons diplomacy is much better now.

no

Agreed, he started off saying he owned 100% of the business (which you would think includes the ip when it is the main product he is selling) & he even brought up the patents in China & the US (knowing damn well they couldn’t sell there) - trying to make the deal sound more lucrative than it was

@@ondskefull1105 bingo

He is currently doing this business on the third company. The first and second was dissolved. He seems to be doing okay (celebs sponsorships and being stocked in Lidl etc) Has a lot of bad reviews online though.

It's _green_ in colour

‘It can be seen from 360 degrees, and mimics the flow of oncoming traffic’

Hahahahaha....I actually get that

Excellent comment. I, and the nation, salute you

Haha

It honestly sounds like he got tricked and scammed by that ken guy

:D

You summoned up everything I was wondering. I think that guy just realized it too!

You know how many products Apple's made that they never "invented"? Pretty much all of them.

@@Marsalien100 don't compare Apple to this dude 😂😂

@@TryPuttingItInRice yes, apple is the BIG scammer

Just a bit later: “Ken designed it.” “WE went to China” turned into “HE went to China” And there were a few more of those changes in his pitch/babbling.

Evan Davis: Will the child patent hold up to the scrutiny of the dragons? Peter: I've examined this patent and you've only patentented your childs hair. Deborah and I could easilly replicate this idea without the hair. Deborah: I disagree with Peter, I don't think we could replicate this idea! I think you've got something here, it's a shame the patent is worthless. I'm out! Theo: I'm not wasting my child's inheritance on your child. I'm out!

What do you mean my child's patented? Of course it is! They share DNA with me!

Hilarious!

“Let me read the documents”

Because it reminds you of a certain Austin Powers Character? 😁

😂

Too bad people call him the fetus. Not a very intimidating mob boss with that name

“We wouldn’t want to see anything bad happening to your nice, little business now, would we, my friend?” 😂

Misunderstandings require... *solutions*

Indeed is a great idea, but not his.

Not a mom, but I am the oldest of 8 kids and have changed a fair number of diapers in my time. It'll be easier to have a fold up mat, and put that on a park bench, or even on the grass to change your baby. And then that mat goes in your diaper bag and not where the baby sits. I could never justify buying a stroller with this added feature to replace an item you can sometimes get free in a box of diapers (where my mom got one of her changing mats), or even just use one of your baby blankets and accept that it's going in the wash the second you get home. Plus, strollers are not hygienic at all. You store them in the garage or the trunk of your car - both of which can get all sorts of rodent and bug infestations - and i'd bet most people don't wipe their strollers down regularly. My mom got a stroller from a friend that straight up changed colours when she put the fabric parts through the wash. It's not a good product, its a gimmick product that first time moms will buy because it's got that extra feature, and then they'll use the stroller, but not the changing table

streamoflillies - love your comments.

I was thinking it was just there as a ready surface and the mat would go on the stroller table.

Junk

I can’t believe they didn’t go in on that!!!

How is that "literally destroying his existence"?

@@BenjaminGoose Just a thing zoomers say now. They don't know the defintion of 'literally' and everyones ends everyones career apparently.

@@nuck- old man yells at clouds.

That's exactly how all the dragons started, just chancing their arm. None of them started off as experienced entrepreneurs

@@benthompson8256 The point @Mr Paul was trying to make is that he was clearly hiding information which is a big red flag, it got nothing to do with where "all the dragons started"

@@leeshanpillay1253 here’s the thing. The deals you see on the show are not final by any means. What you see in the show is a handshake and then both parties go into a due diligence phase where they get to look into the books of the company before any contracts are signed. There is no chance that an investment would have been made in this product without the investor discovering his complete lack of ownership of the IP and distribution rights. So really what you have here is a person who got into the show for the publicity.

😂😂😂

Plot twist, he looks a little like Jude Law in A.I.

@James Cricket I was just going by his voice.

Its in his eyes and skin colour tone

@@johnmc3862 and Cillian Murphy

isn't that what Ken has over this guy's part of the company?

This is the dream team of Dragons

Peak DD

Nah James is a snake

Richard Farleigh, Tej Levani and Hillary D also deserve a mention....

I have a soft spot for Farleigh. Him and Caan have similar personalities tho

So why did he let it happen

@@tuilleri To confirm his suspicions and mess him up later.

@@cekojuna6930 huh ? Explain more please

@@tuilleri the short of it is this. Ken has used this guy to help set up certain if not many areas of the business while at the same time using paper work to crucify him an cut him out of the deal. An then Ken used the dragons to break the news to him after its all said an done. Not to mention the product which is highly marketable an will likely make big money in markets outside of Europe and the uk regardless . A product that because of the help of him Ken can now pretty much already take it to market wherever. On top this guy is expected to maintain a large “hype” to continue the business while complying with sales targets. An if he can’t manage that then all is lost anyways. He was screwed on every level

@@IPR36 I’m starting to suspect Ken is a evil genus

And only for 3 years, he's basically a salesman for the owner. He's not a business owner he's just taken a new job.

And he kept using the pronoun "we" not "I". Wondered who he was refering to, then we found out.

or he is ken and adam is imaginary

🤣🤣

where's barbie in all this ?

Ken is his alter ego

Haha yes

Tbf most guys that come home with someone's daughter would much rather be a laying down kind of guy 😜

Can i come back home with your daughter ?

Well yeah, he is dishonest.

Lol i thought he said ichair

Right? He gives me bad vibes!

Yep, something didn't sit right watching him... As well as listening to how he responds, there's something wierd about him.

@@love922007 ken made me do it.

James Caan will buy them!

Haha I was thinking time share salesman lol

They would have. But that partnership situation turned them off

That company is owned by Adam and 2 other guys. Adam alone is not in a position to give a portion of that company away, unless he takes a large cut out of his portion and gives it to the Dragon(s).

@@jietroraximoff2805 plus I bet they smelt a rat.... why would he need them given his main business?

😂😂😂

Laughing* why would he care?

[sings like Marvel vs. Capcom 2] I wanna take you for a ride...!

Sold the guy 2 containers of product and gave him a deadline to sell it before he'd sell him more.

notice he said "I could stay there and just take my salary"

He or she knows 👍🏾

Rightly so!

Depends in the world where you are

They always have tbh

Yes, he's publishing the videos while he's having his lunch. And we are watching while having ours.

I got the same feeling. Everything he spoke i heard white noise 🤔

Like a vampire

Teamwork makes the dream work

And then he became a foldable flap!

I hate those kind of people. I'm not even sure if they're aware that they're being dishonest. Or maybe they just don't care. They'll never give you any kind of vindication or admission of guilt.

my thoughts exactly

is this a really sophisticated mlm?

Ur username has me dying bro 😆

"For once?" I think he knows a bit more about business than you do lmao

@@I_am_a_cat_ I was commenting more on Peter's tendency towards standoffishness against entrepreneurs, and finding it justified in this instance. Not claiming to possess more business knowledge/sense than a literal billionaire?

@@ScreenSpidah yeah that makes sense. I don't know their personalities that well so I didn't think that lol. I'd be pretty stand-offish too though if I had to deal with thousands of people asking me for money every day... Oh wait.... Every store I go to there's beggars now adays

I thought he was trying to sell my baby... So I'm kind of relieved

Wait...are you Ken?

@@LuvmonkeLive Barbie

😂😂😂

Considering his whole pitch was, "I know this much is true"....

But he's going to make so much ... GOLD

Mmmm ok here goes , COMMUNICATION Let him down

HOW MANY LIES did he tell?

Duncan's a tax evader lol

@@Zenocius you said that like we werent going to still like him lol dont care

@@taelurmyers5861 ZULUL VI VON

He won't be merging with these guys and will be walking home.

@@cuttlefisch 🤣😂🤣 yes!!! 🤣😂🤣

His partner in Japan is Ryu

I think they bring these people in on purpose to just bomb on the camera like they do with reality TV shows like Got Talent etc but try make it seem more subtle/less forced

They screen them but want people like this

I wouldn't watch Dragons Den without people like this. It wouldn't be entertaining and it also wouldn't be an accurate depiction into the world of business or humanity for that matter.

@@philtabest Ah yes Dragon's Den, where true scholars look for interpretations of human nature itself.

@@MsMaryPatricia Totally agree! Calm seas dont create sailors.

He owns nothing, so he wants 100k from the dragons for a percentage of zero. Now I didn't do a finance degree but even I know that isn't a smart deal ;)

he owns it = owns the company. owns the selling rights for Europe. he's a salesman. but not a creator. unsure why they let him in in the first place.

I reckon Ken is the real conman and Adam is his mark. Adam wants to be a conman too, but he's swimming in the wake of a bigger shark in Ken. Ken has tricked Adam into thinking he's a business man when actually he's just Ken's employee.

*stairs

Do you expect saints to be starting a business selling 100e worth of product for 100e? Them people would never be able to run a business like that. Every business owner is trying to make money so its a cutthroat business

@@benthompson8256 You are assuming facts not in evidence. I never uttered anything like that.

Yup. We had a baby bag with a mat that snapped on the outside.

Yeah on average the entrepreneurs are in the den about 3 hours so we don't see or hear most of what's gone on

He caused that woman with the wall threading device to have a mental breakdown... look it up!

@@montelvontaviouspore He's a scammer but tell me one rich person that isn't!

Lol you're very naive . He literally tried to buy a baby from a poor third world family , he values money over human life

You can throw a $1 mat (carpet square) in the undercarriage. Once you're up to 3-4 kids, you learn to improvise!

What does that mean

@@tuilleri it means he's 'avin a laugh mate! Innit!

Is there a link too see that? I seen a clip Where's he pulling a tantrum but not the whole thing

Haaha that dude just suddenly appearing there was the funniest thing I've seen on Dragons Den. How long was he sat under there?

Whose Barbara?

@@lee6023 IT'S AN INTERNATIONAL JOKE. BARBARA IS FROM THE AMERICAN VERSION CALLED SHARK TANK

They weren't dealing with the owner at all. This guy was more or less a franchise owner on a 3 year lease. 100k for a percentage of nothing is nothing. Also 2 containers for a commodity the size of a pushchair isn't that many units.

Brilliant

Genius!

Getting complicated now... We don't have Brian's figures, and Ken is nowhere in sight.

lets vinyl wrap it haha

Ahahaaaa, good one

Nah Ken seems smarter than that, he gets kickbacks and the whole thing is a pyramid scheme.

Welp, mother care no longer exists