🇳🇱 Hundreds of trains stopped at once: how we commemorate the dead: Schiphol - Amersfoort ICM 4/5/24 

While it is of course true that planes in flight do not and cannot stop, they will be guided to a higher altitude during these two minutes to protect the silence. Also all landings and takeoffs are stopped during the 2 minutes. There‘s some great videos of Schiphol when this happens around on RU-vid.

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Dat is een dagelijkse gebeurtenis bij de NS

In the Netherlands cars and people are also supposed to be silent, very interesting to hear such a similar thing.

Thanks Cindy!

Stoppen jullie ook?

Zeker en zo mogelijk (ondergronds) altijd op stations. Dan staan we zelfs langer stil.

sadly enough. no

I was born on St.Paddy's Day. Luckily my dad didn't have sense of humor or I'd be Patrick.

Helaas ga je altijd mensen hebben die er helemaal niet mee eens waren. Dit zijn respectloze mensen gewoonweg, ik vindt dit dan ook spijtig dat je altijd zo een groepje mensen hebt.

Ik zat ook eens naast iemand die gewoon door zat te typen op zijn laptop..

Helaas zijn er nu eenmaal mensen die voor zichzelf leven, niet kunnen of willen indenken wat het nu eigenlijk betekent (ja dus ook voor hun) en in mijn ogen dus het predicaat asociaal verdienen. Wat mij betreft geen enkele aandacht waardig. Ik stond stil op station Wehl en het was doodstil in de trein. Mooi om te mogen doen tijdens je werk!

Nee dat heb ik nooit gezien.

Is not green, it's yellow but netherlands did something to the paintjob

thats just a sceen to make sure no one from the roof can get to the OLE.

Dat komt omdat op deze locatie drie treindienstleidergebieden overlappen.

No, we have to make up for the time.

What? do you get punished if you don’t make up for it?

@@2_O-20 No, we have to drive as fast as we can to get back on schedule.

​@@2_O-20for how arguably amazing the Dutch railway network is, it's not perfect. Delays of 10 minutes or more happen from time to time, so Noone really bats an eye at a 2 minute stop.

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Dat is goed nieuws collega!

Although this can be measured by train(route), and I assume will be looked into if it falls below a minimum, the only “hard” limit is what the concession given to NS by the government demands for the network as a whole: a minimum of 88.9% of travelers arriving within 5 minutes of the planned time, and 96.7% arriving within 15 minutes. NS is striving to achieve 91.5% and 97.4% respectively in 2024.

Also good to note that from 2025 (when the new concession applies) this will change to the following minimums: 84.4% of travellers arriving within 3 minutes of scheduled time 94.5% within 10 minutes of scheduled time The new concession also adds more KPIs about quality of connections to other transport providers, and quality of information provided etc.

Ja, die geluiden zijn al een paar jaar elektronisch.

Nederlandse Omroep Stichting. A broadcasting organization: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nederlandse_Omroep_Stichting

Jaren geleden helaas aangepast naar onaangename elektronische geluiden.

Ik had vooraf gekeken en hoopte bij het Naardermeer te kunnen stoppen zoals de vorige keer. Ik was iets te laat en de treindienstleider had het volgende sein niet bediend. Bij deze seintjes stoppen leek mij een goed idee vanwege het plaatje waar jullie 2 minuten naar moeten kijken. Ik zat een keer als passagier naast een reiziger die vrolijk bleef doortypen op zijn laptop.

The 5th of May is a national holiday every 5 years. Whether this should be a national holiday every year is a discussion that goes on for decades already. Basically the Dutch government wants to convert it to a holiday every year, but in return we'd have to give up on another (mind you we have two days of Christmas, two days of Pentecost and two days of Easter in The Netherlands). Giving up another holiday is a rather sensitive topic ;) Good question about 8 PM ;) I don't know why this was chosen, except for the fact that the organisation behind it probably chose this timeframe because it was to be expected that almost everyone would be at home by that time and thus could follow it by radio or television (for as far anyone had a television back in 1946). A second reason could be the 'don't pass the burden' factor: after WW2 there was a strong concensus that the war was over, it was done and over with and thus should not be talked about. Many people were also too traumatised to even talk about what they had experienced, thus it was basically silenced: many youngsters born during the war or shortly after the end of the war never heard any story about the war and if they did, it was usually a story of heroism, celebration and joy. I only heard a horrible story about WW2 from my uncle at my grandma's funeral: while on hungerjourney, as about the north half of the country was completely cut off from supplies at the end of the war, my grandma and my uncle passed a convoy of German soldiers in retreat, when the allies attacked them by airstrikes. They ducked for cover in a ditch, but I guess it was more luck that they survived. He told this story in a abbreviated form because after the funeral, my dads' sister came up to my dad and asked him if he was afraid as well that he was going to go on 'the war-rant': apparently, he did tell that story often for tenths of minutes when my dad and his sister were youngsters, where many other kids never heard any horrible story at all. For me it was a shock as well because I had never heard about it: I asked both my grandma from my moms side and my dads side about 'what the war was like' (hell, I was 8 or so and we got to learn about it in school and I was curious). My moms-side grandma told a story about how horrible and cold it was (that was basically it) and than how the Canadians came and the food-droppings happened (I had no idea what the Canadians had to do with 'the War' in general, just a bit too young to comprehend). Same story from the grandma from my dads side of the family. But both never talked about it to my mom and dad: it was a thing of the past, don't put that burden on kids that have a bright future ahead, that was basically it. Apparently, my uncle was the exception in the family. Okay, I digress... During World War 1, The Netherlands was neutral, so we don't remember any fallen (which is not completely true, as the first minute of the two minute silence is thought to remember the fallen in World War 1, the second minute being for WW2 and every war/conflict after it). 11:11 on November 11 is the day that Prins Amadeiro, Prince of Oeteldonk (The name of the city of 's Hertogenbosch during Carnival) arrives at Oeteldonk Centroal ('s Hertogenbosch station during Carnival) by special train, so that time has already been taken ;). In the evening by the way, the festivities around Saint Martin are celebrated in not that many places in the Netherlands. On that evening, kids go by doors in their neighbourhood, carrying lanterns with them (usually made at school) and sing a song at every door in return for some candy. I guess that we do consider freedom to be important, but as a national important saying goes: 'Doe maar gewoon, dan doe je al gek genoeg' (Act normal, that way you're crazy enough already) I guess we tend to stick to the current situation, paired with the sensitive topic of giving up a national holiday to have the 5th of May off...

U kunt toch altijd nog solliciteren voor machinist? Ik kan het aanraden!

This is an Electric Motor Unit, or train set, no seperate engine pulling.

Yes.

Kort op elkaar bedoel je? Vandaar eerst een geel-4 voor het gele sein.

@@CabviewHolland Ja, dat bedoelde ik. Nu zie ik ook dat "grootte", "lengte" moest zijn.

@@basscharenborg6441 I suspect blocks are as long or short as needed for the specific locations. Note that it is possible to have repeater signals in the middle of a control block, especially if the control signal is not visible. {^_-}

@@Wizardess The Signalsystem 1954 has been laid out in such a way that a train should be able to stop within braking distance of the signal at danger and thus enables the train to 'lower speed and expect stop at next signal'. I think it's called a distant signal and basically every signal in our signalsystem is a distant-signal to the next, although the next signal is not an actual main signal (our signals are distant and mains at once). But in some places this setup could not be upheld and thus the numbersignals are there as well. Depending on whether the numbers flash or not, this can have a different meaning, in this case (yellow with a flashing 4) tells the driver that it's likely the speed indicated by the number will not be reached when passing the next signal, but that the driver should remain braking until the indicated speed has been reached. The numbers are the speed divided by 10 (a 4 is 40 km/h, a 6 60 km/h and so on).

@@weeardguy The formal definitions I have are in a file titled "RSV-bijlage04_Seinreglement_geintegreerde%20versie%20per%2001.12.2012.pdf" as per the original's URL. The percent-20 triples are translated to spaces normally. Anyway, I am not a candidate to drive Dutch trains by age, temperament, and depth of interest. (80, not patient enough and autistic, and dilettante.) Do I made a comment with practical reasons at a top level. Lower levels such as you hint at are for the people actually dealing with the physics of the trains on the tracks and the requirement for safety then safety then safety then maybe something else like getting self-loading freight from point A to point B without undue discomfort and a hope of maintaining schedules. {^_-}

Nee, dat kan ik niet geweest zijn.

@@CabviewHolland Oké, bedankt.

Ja. Toch?

@@CabviewHolland Geen idee 🤷🏻‍♂️

Alle treinen staan 2 minuten stil: goederen, passagiers....alles

Thanks! Also for the analisys ;-) I was planning on stopping a bit further ahead at between the lake again, but I was slightly late..

@@CabviewHolland I liked the symbolism of the growing grass, the eternal grass always there for us. {^_^}

Leden van het kanaal kunnen de videos al eerder bekijken

Maar hoe dan

@@ibraahiembaas6213 Do you see the big "JOIN" button just below the video and to the right of the channel's ID? Betcha that's it. {^_-}

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@@ibraahiembaas6213 Die zijn geabonneerd of doneren geld in ruil voor het eerder kunnen zien van de video. De video wordt dan geupload op RU-vid maar staat dan gereserveerd voor een select publiek: daardoor kan er dus wel gereageerd worden, maar dat zie je als niet-lid/niet-betalende kijker dus later pas. Kan inderdaad wat verwarrend werken ;)

Het gebied dat wordt gedekt met een algemene oproep van een treindienstleider overlapt meestal met het gebied van de buurtreindienstleider. Blijkbaar reden we hier net op het grensgebied van meerdere treindienstleiders.

Dat zal wel meevallen. NS verbruikt per jaar 1,2TWh, dat is 1% van het totale verbruik.

Grote kans dat de net-toezichthouder daar niets van ziet: het is gepland, dus men weet dat het er aan komt en omdat het net altijd in balans gehouden moet worden, wordt er bij overschot in productie gewoon een belletje gepleegd naar grootverbruikers om in te schakelen. Bij langdurig overschot wordt (bijvoorbeeld) Delfzijl gebeld, waar men dan de vonkovens (smelt-ovens om schroot-aluminium te smelten naar nieuw aluminium) aan mag zetten. Die trekken zo Megawatts per stuk en vereisen altijd overleg met de toezichthouder om te voorkomen dat ze een te grote aanslag op het net vormen en zo de boel volledig onderuit trekken. Omgekeerd kunnen grootverbruikers ook gesommeerd worden onmiddellijk af te schakelen als er tekorten dreigen.

Dat gebeurt na het tijdstip dat ik in het intro noem.

Het zit al ruim vóór de aankondiging door menig treindienstleider, dus je hebt het gemist ;)