🍄 Don't Let Contams Get You Down (Mycology Pep Talk with Sage) 🍄 

A *LIKE* and a *COMMENT* helps prevent Trich, it’s true! 😮💃🕺🐱 Also Christmas Eve livestream tomorrow?

I appreciate you showing and talking about contamination, people act like they never get contaminated and everything is always grand

shout out to all the trich 🗣💪🏽

Contamination is part of the process. I appreciate that you show us. Hard work and determination will win

One of the 15 pints of Guinness I drank last night must have been contaminated coz I'm feeling rough AF today. Happy holidays bro, love the channel and all the work you do for us.

Im sure you'll find the source of the contam in no time!

Well then let me be the first to ward off trich and any other contams by saying how much I appreciate the knowledge that u share with this community. I can honestly say that u n munch have tought me more than u know and I thank you for that Have a wonderful holiday I wish u the best in everything u do

Great topic

My pops said the sides of ur jar looks like it "gotta black puddle" in it 🖤 what's in the mug sage? 🍵

The perfect song for this is "You can't bring me down" by suicidal tendencies

Ever since I got an air purifier with a hepa filter I haven't gotten any mold contamination. I just run it an hour before I do any SAB work or spawning to bulk.

Had one shoe box of Mexicana and one monutub of treasure coast contam this week. But hey now I have 2 TC pinning and my pan cyans on coir only is pinning.

Thank you for being real.

You said exactly how I feel about growing these mushrooms! I enjoy your videos! Very helpful! Thanks for your time and effort to share your knowledge!

I'm learning so many things from you. Thanks man!

Thanks. Happy Holidays Sage!

Always good info Sage!

merry chrimas sage thank you for all the info you have shared with us this year

It's helpful seeing that I'm not the only one who has issues and encouraging that we can help each other to persevere

Another great video, thanks Sage! Growing takes patience and its always a learning process. The rewards are worth it!

I listened to this while dealing with the subject. I'm gonna make this a habit. ☮️❤️🍄

Great videos! Im subscribed to all of your channels and love your content.

You're actually a legend and you're paving the path on RU-vid for us Mycos , finally a TC on RU-vid.

I really appreciate you talking about contams, problems with grows, etc. It’s way more helpful for new growers. Most other channels show these amazing grows that happen fast and without any difficulty and it seems like everything should be so easy. When you’re new, shit happens at various stages, things don’t work out, your tubs stall and it’s hard to figure out where you went wrong. So I much prefer you talking about the struggles because it gives me hope. In fact, I would love to see a video about stalled grows, causes, what to do, etc. I have a bunch of stalled tubs that are fully colonized, no apparent contam, fruiting conditions seems good, and they’re just not pinning or fruiting and I don’t know why. They’ve been in FC for like 3 weeks. All different genetics. It’s super frustrating.

Sage love yiur content, spot on and ive had so much success just from following u and other i fluencers, but gotta say man your way of explaining things and your trip experiences sound so familiar!! And sound slike what ive gone thru just small differences man.. crazy!! 🍄 🍄 🫠😊😮💙💙

Thank you for putting this out brother. I know when I first started, seeing everyone have perfect results all the time made me feel worse when I started getting contamination. Happy holidays Sage

Thank you for allowing us on your journey. One of the best life lessons I learned was when I was learning to ski. My brother told me, as I was picking myself up again after falling, “you learn more from your failures than success.

Another great video! My entire house is a contamination vector (four dogs) and I knew that going into this venture so I made an extra special effort to limit or narrow my vectors but understanding (and from your advice as well) that contamination will be an issue at times. I also know that being a newbie I don't even know what contamination looks like half the time so vids like this that show contamination in situ are very valuable. I built a laminar flow hood, I built a still air box, I have gallons of Iso alcohol, I use gloves, I adhere to sterilization protocol, etc, etc, etc. Every day I look forward to learning more and thank you for being a part of that journey. I have several grows that are going very well and a couple that did not go well but there is still knowledge to be found in everything.

Just found you, awesome stuff man 🙌 keep up the hard work!

Happy 4th sage!!

Bro don't worry I just listened to a Dave wombat interview and he said he gets constant contamination because he grows in a way that's more risky. This video is more informative than pictures of mushrooms. Thanks for the video.

Mate, def do not feel ashamed .... we are all going through similar situations so it's great that you keep it real and we can all feel slightly better with some Trich on Christmas day😂

Just found ur channel a few days ago Now I'm ur biggest fan. Keep pushing content. While u have contams keep posting. Show us what they llook like, etc. Every moment is a learning moment

So nice keep making these videos...

Cheers To Everyone ✌️.

I had to throw out a grain bag mid-colonization this morning. Thanks for the perspective. 👍

We had fungus mites once, that was crazy!

TRYING TO PREVENT TRICH!!!!!....this channel and the OG one are awesome

I found these little filters built to put in the vents so it's not blowing anything into the room and have a hepa filter running at all times except when I'm doing SAB work and it's cut my contam down but it's for sure a part of the game, part of the fun is learning to avoid the pitfalls.

Thanks for posting this I needed to hear this I’ve tried to spawn 3 bags so far and every time they’ve all gotten contaminated just gonna keep trying!

One thing that can bring about black mold and probably other contamination is wireless RF frequencies. Black mold and other bad types of things like that apparently have been increasing since the wireless cellular began increasing. All these RF frequencies are weaponized in many ways including making us all nodes in the Internet of bodies, its already been going on for many years. Sabrina on odyssey knows alot about it.

Sage, your video's are really great so you deserve all the new subs, I have been wondering if you only use Hypochlorous acid for you aseptic prep or do you use 70% alcohol also ? I have read the the HA that you use has a small shelf life maybe 2 weeks max and wondered if that could be an issue for you. I also wondered if you have just gotten Trich spores in your environment which is very easy to do possibly in your air circulation . I am just a learner but with you years of experience I doubt your procedure has failed you so it is probably material issues like you suspect. Any way this is the best shroom channel out there and you deserve the growth. Thanks for your hard work. Gary

Happening to me right now out of no where

Yeah I've been having problems for awhile. Need to break down and do some water Agar and do some clean up. Lost a few phenos recently sucks.

One thing I noticed that may help your followers...if you don't fully hydrate your grain your mycelium and grain will get dry and you will not be able to rehydrate your grain later unless you use heat which you can't do at that point. This allows contam to get a head start after mixing your grain into substrate since our mycelium is slowed down due to it not being able to properly feed off it's grain. Proper grain hydration will allow your mycelium to properly feed throughout your colonization process. A good way to check is by making sure you can somewhat easily crush the grain in-between your fingers. If you can't crush it that means it probably needs more hydration. I like to soak popcorn all night and then pressure cook it for 35mins..i then drain and allow the excess water to evaporate off of the grain before adding it to the jars. I then pressure cook the jars for 1 and a half hours. Now inoc and watch your mycelium thrive! Mush love

That's what I have 😜 getting

Wow. I had the same mold. It is either Aspergillus/Penicill, Basidiospores, or Pithomyces. This happened to me this last winter. This is what I found in the air in my unit. More on this later… What I found, and I cannot figure out is, everything I did worked until late November 2022. I started in July 22 and it was NOT clean. Yet. Everything I did was perfect. I was blown away. Late November 2022 and it was went down hill. It felt like the cleaner I went the worse it got. I mean LC, agar, grow bags from different vendors. All of them went bad and it smelled really bad. Atrocious. It was also horribly expensive. I isolated the room, smaller room, cleaner air, you name it. I thought maybe it was a bad batch of agar plates. Then I said, “spore to LC. Those went bad. I thought, “maybe it’s the LC ingredients.” Admittedly, I think I did use the wrong peptone. I didn’t get the soy based. I had been using the same sterile techniques as a two months prior. That is when I really began to perfect on my process. At least I thought. I had the pressure cooker, LC, all stainless steel all sterile utensils. My earlier fruits were finishing up. But the upgrades and new plates … I dunno. It was bad. Finally I gave up and said, “maybe it’s too cold. It is winter..” my place gets warm but dry and I didn’t feel like risking worse contamination with a humidifier so by December, which was my 7th grow bag, and then I gave up. I said, “let me revisit in the spring.” I tried maybe 3 in January. All went bad. LCs smelled like yeast. It wasn’t worth it anymore. So I cleaned up. And decided I’d also had enough with the air quality in my place. In late February I hired an air quality engineer. I live in a colder climate and in an hoa. The heat is radiator steam. Except the radiators don’t let steam out. It does let the spent air our and sucks air back in. I was having trouble with them and odd smells in each room. The windows may as well be open because they let so much air in. The engineer brought several tools. Including an infrared camera.. She found all sorts of places where the air was coming in. I found more gaps. Found a vent pipe that was cracked in my laundry closet. (Shared by two units below me) Long story short, I believe it was the air quality. It is these dang heaters and all the other gaps in my baseboards , beside the windows etc. I mean I have window air conditioning in the summer and that wasn’t an issue. Once I took my air conditioners out. Closed up for winter, it went down hill. By march, I doubled and tripled down. My first inoculation was on April 8th. It’s not contaminated but finally ready to fruit. I see the pins. The room i used was gutted and redone. I put metal at the bottom of the wall and acrylic midway. Used a primer to prevent mold, an extra air purifier, now there are two. Metal shelves. You name it. Everything is finally back to the way it was but i will say this, once they shut off the heat, everything began to grow quickly. That was May 8th. Since then it sped up quickly. In the last two weeks, bag inoculated are showing rizzo 14-21 days in. My plates are happy. My newer LC is clear. I expect to be pinning very soon. Hopefully. Check your air quality. Including heat vents. Maybe put a new filter in there. Maybe over the heater vents. Unfortunately, I need to hire someone to come take my radiators out and clean them inside and out.

God loves the mushroom people that’s why he tests us .Trich is the rights of passage ceremony we all must transverse .

Do you use the tubs with see through lids for light penetration? The shoebox tubs I get from Walmart has a cream colored, non see through lid. Should I be getting the ones like you have?

Thank you very much for sharing this, I really needed to listen to because I get really down with failure (I'm working on it!) :') ❤ Can you share please your method to wash and sterilize the jars after getting out the colonized grain? 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Thank you very much in advance! 🍄☺️

Everyone always tells me my grains are at fault, and they are right in most cases. I'm still in search of my perfect grain.

Trich can infuse into plastic. Might be time to get new tubs.

Could your grain issues be from moisture content of the grain? I assume the mycelium needs some moisture for growth and movement.

I think alot where the contamination comes from is from spraying down the substrate. The water could be bad or you have some spores flying around land on the spray bottle nozzle and then you spray all those spores and crap on the substrate. If you do everything right you do not have to mist

can you elaborate on what you mean when you say a t1/t2/t3 plate? Are you talking about transfer plates and you used the first transfer plate?

what do you do with all the contaminated containers (jars, boxes...) ?

I hate rye berries now, idk what supplier you use but my rye jars do the same thing 30% every make it to full colonization, I make sure they are hydrated by biting, then I pc for 150 mins idk what it is but it sucks.

Could you make a hot tea out of the mushroom spawn and mycelium to get the beneficial effects I wonder.

What brand of coir did you switch to? I recently found out that all coir is NOT equal. The garden coir tends to be purposely riddled with trich because it breaks down in your garden better. The coir for reptile bedding (terrarium) is left clean. I had nothing but trich problems using various brands from my garden center. I recently ordered some tried and true brand terrarium coir with hopes of good success. I have found some lists of problematic brands on the Shroomery... take it for what it's worth. This is a variable worth talking about.

I lost my last 3 tubs to trich. Real bummer! I have 2 tubs going now in fruiting stage and I'm getting some decent looking shrooms but in one tub I looked at today it looks like there is a small blueish color starting in a small area. I just noticed it today. I'm going to keep my fingers crossed and i hope it's not early contaminated..

i can,t decide if i want to buy a microscope lol .

Tams are a major educational experience.

Wait so after we inoculate the jars we mist them everyday?? I have found at the right temperature the right moisture is created so far my best looking jars are the ones that are touched the least lol I’m hopeful with these bc I’m tired of contam I’m convinced it’s just in my house everywhere

If your not getting contam your not growing. It’s never a fail it’s a learning experience.

Hey bro, I never tried it but I heard someone say they filled a bottle with 70%distilled water and 30%hydroproxiced... and it helped..

Hello Sage! Hope you had a good holiday. So...I got 17 since spawning and still no pins in my sbox. Sub looks good, mycelium all through it. Normal coir lovers too. Have you had it take that long before? My last box it took about 6 days to pin.

There may not be enough moisture in the one taking forever

Not pasteurizing enough. Learned that lesson. Get an authentic 15psi+ pressure cooker. Pasteurization isn't consistent, regardless of time on yhe burner. It's temp. And sterilize your grain, pasteurization just isn't consistent. Higher temps = no contam

Chemicals used to grow grains?

What is a T1 plate?

I had 3 inflatable circular monotubs using bulk substrate. One strain takes up to 55 days to colonize the substrate. I always get contamination when I do this particular strain. The other 2 tubs colonized within two- three weeks, the issue is when I introduce FAE, they appear to decolonize and the primordia display little bulbs but turns milky then turn yellowish in spots. I sterilize and autoclave everything 30mins longer than required. I wish I could send a pic to get feed back. Everything is from T3 grain spawn bags. I need help! I’m losing too much everything. I had better results when I was growing them in a house that was moldy. Now I’m in a newly built house!!!!

What's a T1 plate? 4:58

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I'm done even trying until I get a laminar flow hood. It's a waste of time otherwise. All you will get for your efforts is a lot of mold.

Why not use millet

it would be boring and not useful to just see you succeed. I'm more interested in all the possible problems than all the best techniques.

no disrespect or anything like that but maybe try not talking...literally talking into your tub....also R/H is low

def need it warmer

Not enough fae will cause contamination. Goodluck