Look, to anybody calling me out on not giving Sniper proper respect, this video was made and released just a couple months after the release of Three Houses, and I had the assumption that everyone's just best off in Master Classes back then, which still relatively holds true in several cases. The game's been out for close to two years now, and my playthrough of this game is STILL ongoing and I'm still learning more. Yes, I know and acknowledge there are some spicy class exclusive combat arts, but back when this video was made under the assumption that you'd be going into a master class of some sort, I stated that Sniper doesn't have a point to mastering if you're not going to use what it gives outside of its class anyway. Yes it can be spicy if you stay in Sniper, which you are absolutely more than free to go with. Again, this video was made very shortly after release, and I've since then made WAY more efficient class maxing machines.
I just grinded free battles on easy for over three hours to max all skills and classes. Don't be like me and forget the knowledge orb you had the entire time though.
Random student Byleth's recruiting into their house: "I think I can learn a lot in your class. Please let me join!" Later... Byleth: "Now go stand in the forest with this orb and get shot at by bandit archers for 90 turns. Try to get hit as much as you can so the healers have stuff to do as well"
Same, rusted weapon in forest to get skill experience in addition to class experience. 4x combats a turn, 5 if you attack on your turn, more if there are ranged units I've literally trained units from E to S+ on a single map, though it's definitely repetitive lol
I think he meant that Sniper is not worth mastering unless you're planning to stay in that class. I'm on a NG+ Black Eagles run and Sniper Shamir is absolutely shredding enemies with Hunter's Volley.
The idea that sniper "only gives a combat art" and is thus useless to master is a little bit ridiculous, seeing as hunter's volley is one of the best combat arts in the entire game and means that sniper is actually a respectable final class alternative to bow knight, especially on higher difficulties.
I think he meant that as in... Mastering the sniper / Swordmaster class isn't very important (right away) since it doesn't give you any skills to work with right away. Sure you get Astra / Hunters volley which are great CAs. But if you just started NG+ and you are unlocking skills and CA's with renown... You can't take advantage of what sniper and Swordmaster offer you until you reach the LVL threshold to reclass into them. I mean sure, if you plan on sticking with the class for the unit definitely master them. But if your NG+ LVL 1 Felix has the option of getting Death Blow or Astra- (mind you, he can't reclass yet) Felix is going to get Death Blow.
@@Tom-vx7qh Astra has a unique animation compared to most other sword combat arts. (compared to the standard "I hit you harder with my weapon animation") 9 weapon uses isn't a big deal after you have more than +1,000G. I find entertainment in watching my units crit x times in a single turn. (which easily enough can be done plenty of ways.) In my humble opinion, I find that great. -Is it a bit overkill? Sure, in most cases I Don't think i'm going to only use astra the entire battle, obviously that's unnecessary. When you've beaten the game, and play for the entertainment you're going to do whatever works. (Unless you don't...in which case..uh....congrats?) Statistically is it a "great" combat art? Not as efficient as Point blank volley Swift strikes Hunters volley Etc. Of course they're considered great. In a game with the options for custom tailoring the army to your personal preference. As with just about _literally_ _anything_ in Fire Emblem: Three Houses _it_ _gets_ _the_ _job_ _done._ And if it doesn't. Well.. that's the player's fault. Or the hit rate's. In which case refer to above^^
@@zuesandbandit Astra only does 150% damage with no crit or miss, and if you're lucky and manage to get every hit to crit, you deal 450%. But the problem is that doubling deals more damage than Astra. If you're going to crit 5 times with Astra, then you can crit twice normally, and two normal crits is 600% damage. But not only that, but Astra has a negative hit penalty, so there's also a higher chance of dealing even less damage. Astra's only redeeming quality is that the animation is the coolest in the games aside from maybe Claude's crit animations.
@@Tom-vx7qh That's nice of you to explain to me the numbers, and I understand that. But you forgot to mention the other methods a unit could increase accuracy through: -Weapon proficiency -Abilities -Equipment -Battalions -linked attacks -support -special bonds You can absolutely have high crit & 100% accuracy. On another note, this video was about grinding right? If you're speed leveling ranks in three houses, does it really matter what you use? At this point you're still doing what you want. Units could grind from E to S+ fairly early in the game if that's what you wanted to do, same goes for maddening. Of course NG+ exists... which kinda negates the whole grinding part of the argument, if that's the player's preference. It can still be done without though. So I guess my point is I don't have a problem with using astra.
This is the first FETH guide past the basics I've made, finally getting to delve into some deeper stuff, with some techniques I discovered to start unlocking a ton of class maxing skills! btw, dunno if anyone noticed my voice sounding different when I talked about adjutants towards the end as I recorded it a couple weeks later and I was (and still am) sick
I'm impressed that the title actually matches the content, that the content is fleshed out with relevant info, and that it isn't all just something anyone could easily discover on their own. It is a bit disappointing how often those things are not true of gaming guide videos on YT.
Here is my personal method. You take a highly evasive or defensive unit with rusted weapons and have them camp out in a map with a thicket/forest surrounded by adjacent thickets/forests. The rusted weapons’ low accuracy paired with the increased enemy evasion in forests makes it nearly impossible to hit your enemies, but you still gain good weapon experience, great class experience, and low normal experience. The only hard part is building a unit that can survive hundreds of enemy attacks. What I recommend is giving your unit skills that promote survival paired with skills that either cater to Avoidance/Evasion or Defense/Resistance. Assign a battalion with no hit boosts and greatly boosted evasion or defenses. Give your unit a knowledge gem, throw them in a forest, and they’re good to go. For magical units, it’s best to assign them as a Knowledge-Gem-holding adjutant to the main unit since the spell experience will not run out for them. Now you’re good to go! If you have any questions on defensive or evasive builds that worked really well for me, feel free to ask. I’m willing to help out!
D00meriksen van Dude you don’t get any weapon experience with an unequipped weapon. With a rusted weapon, you can get both class experience and weapon experience. You can also have more evasion with sword avoid or sword prowess. It’s not really efficient to do it with nothing equipped.
Omg listen. Find yourself an enemy healer, lure them into a forest with a unit that has high res, and attack them with that unit until they run out of Nosferatu uses (they only get 12). Then bring out the rest of ur team and attack them with rusted/broken weapons 1000 times. They also usually have recovery so even if you DO hit them they will heal themselves
grinding for S+ ranks is not worth all that time. I tried what you suggested with broken Brawling Gloves and I just killed the priest every time anyway. If you're going to do that, make sure to use a class that boosts your chosen weapon's xp. Also equip one of the 2 knowledge gems. I only use these methods to grind class xp to master good skills like Death Blow, Darting Blow on everyone. Having an adjutant makes sure you can grind 2 units at the same time, which also saves you effort.
D00meriksen van Dude What I was saying is not just attacking a priest (unless you were replying to Daniel Lava). Let every enemy attack you. Don’t just attack a priest with high avoid, you still have a chance to hit him. But with 20 units all attempting to attack you, luck won’t really matter. You kill one, another will take their place and you can keep grinding. You get 4+ combat interactions each turn, and with a knowledge gem that weapon/skill experience is going to go way up.
So I found that the auxiliary battle in the Empire and the auxiliary battle at Fodlan’s Throat are the best for grinding class exp. This is because they both have a choke point where you can force three units enemies to attack one unit. Simply place a physical tank at that choke point and have them unequip any weapons so they don’t counter attack and you can gain 12 class exp per enemy phase with the knowledge gem. For weaker units who can’t tank all those hits, you can set them as adjutants for the physical tank. The battle in the empire is better for this because there are two more choke points where you can get two enemies to attack one unit. Meaning you can have a total of 6 units gaming class exp at the same time with three tanks each having an adjutant. Of course at least 4 of these 6 won’t have the knowledge gem. Doing this is also nice because you don’t have to attack at all and can just spam end turn.
Finally someone who does it the same way as me. Idk why people complicate things when this is such an easy way to do it that has minimal set up and risk 😂
Lol I came up with these strategien when the game first came out too, but you added the archers thing and obstruct which I never considered. Greta guide all around, good reminder on what i used to do in this game
This is pretty much the kind of stuff I've been doing on my own since the very first Fire Emblem game came out for the GBA. I would always use bosses on healing tiles to rack up easy experience throughout the game, and thus I would always keep weak weapons for all of my characters. Lol funny thing is, this didn't work in those games if you don't deal any damage at all, while in this game it sounds like you get gains even when doing zero damage, so this will be even more abusable. Great :)
I made my own farming strategy for class exp, levels, money and skill exp. Before choosing battle on the free day, I spend every week getting new certifications for the characters I want to use. When in the battle menu I make sure only Byleth is in the fight and set whoever I want as an adjutant. When at a high enough level, Byleth will start to take no damage from everything, so I equip a melee weapon to farm class exp off mages and archers. When you max out both Byleth and the adjutants class you can end the battle and move on to the next one. As long as you keep choosing the right battle you can do this infinitely. You can equip different weapons and riding/flying/heavy armour, and by the time you go back to the monastery, you should be able to recruit a bunch of people. Towards the end my Byleth started to get only 1 exp from every fight. My Byleth is level 30+ and has A rank in riding, authority and all weapons and magic except for bows and I’m only at chapter 6.
Literally one of the first things in the game I figured out was the adjutant in the forest strategy so right at the beginning I got a bunch of skills on every character. Also I just unequipped weapons. It's much less work
I would use Dedue to tank many hits with another character as an adjutant. Or buff a character with defense stats so they could tank. My tankers include edelgard, Sylvain, Raphael, Balthus and Ferdinand
That's uh... Actually not true about intermediate & advanced classes giving the best abilities. It's VERY give or take as far as which classes give good abilities in those ranges. Some are good and some are crap. Surprisingly enough, the beginner classes are actually really great when starting out. After that though you should be quite choosy on which classes you master.
8:17 Don't recommended farming Class exp on this map for Maddening. Way too many enemies will come your way if a middle archer hits any unit (or Gilbert).
Oh just came up with an idea. could do one of the battle quests where enemies are lvl 5. Dont do the battle and wait till anyone can tank 6 archers at the same time
Maddening archers are even better because then even units who wouldn't normally take damage from it now do and it can allow for additional healer experience
@@AcousticHarmonia I was getting at the fact that they can and will one shot non physical tanks, and they have pretty good accuracy, especially for the earlier appearances
You don't have to fight bowmen to get the class exp from getting hit/dodging/whatever. You can just go to your items, select your equipped weapon and unequip it. Your character will then go into battle unarmed. It's a pretty good way to farm class exp on maddening but iirc there is still a 99 turn time limit and a limit in terms of when an enemy might run out of weapon uses. Downside is you don't get weapon/skill proficiency this way, but if you want that then you can do what you said and equip a ranged weapon vs. melee foes or a melee weapon vs. ranged foes. On maddening it's harder to farm from bowmen due to all of them having poison strike. Another cheesy thing you can do is you can farm bosses on heal tiles by attacking them with weak, broken (literally) weapons. The one on the Seteth/Flayn paralogue is pretty good for this.
the only thing that sucks about this is any spell-capable unit will still retaliate with magic if it has the option to, as there's no way to forcibly unequip their spells that ive come across at least
I haven't done maddening yet so idk the limitations but usually I find the easiest way is going into the battle menu on your days off and choosing "Battle at the Empire". That map has 2 bridges seperating you from the enemy and you can just have 2 of your characters chokehold the bridges with no weapon or with a broken weapon if you want to get weapon exp but they do eventually hit enemies so less farming material. This set up means they can get attacked by 3 or more enemies at once and gain at least 6 points per turn. Just heal them when damaged and wait it out. You can chokehold in other maps but this one is the easiest cos there is like no set up. All you need is patience. You can also use adjutants and get experience for more characters and its esp convenient for the less tanky ones cos they can't chokehold without needing healing constantly.
The strat that i do is... Give someone a speed ring, place them in forest in unequip their weapon, they should dodge enough and heal them if needed. Warp them out when done. Works well against foes with low hit rates. Since you have no weapon equipped, you don't counter attack nor are you slowed down by a weapon.
it's my first time playing this game because I just got a Switch after all these years after it's release but I'm definitely enjoying it. This guide helps a lot.
I found this sort of grinding easiest in some auxillary battles where there are bishops. They have renewal, so if you damage them, you can just wait for a turn or two, or you just use rusted/broken weapons. Nosferatu is weak and Abraxas only has 4 uses, and you can just have a high res unit bait out their attacks a few times so your weaker units can come in and start whaling away. Not only do you gain class EXP, but also weapon ranks including movement type and authority rank. I found enemy bishops with renewal the easiest to make this kind of setup. Only problem is your healers won't gain as much healing exp, but most healing classes don't generally have the best mastery skills anyways (renewal on your own units isn't that great, defiant magic is pretty niche, etc).
This is an older video, I've actually already been doing what you've described in my current playthrough Typically it's getting a bishop with renewal on a heal tile who runs out of magic uses and then every unit in my army attacks with a rusted or broken weapon cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568900342155182082/707070156215549952/193.png
You can go to the item menu and unequip your weapon, then you are able to take hits without counter attacking, save all your low level (level 11 or lower) quests for around chapter 9 when your units will be around level 20, go into combat with the classes you want to master and all weapons unequipped and let the enemies run rampant for 20 or so turns. If someone masters a class you can simply equip their weapon and the enemies will leave them be if your unit can kill them.
Archer are great since you can control who will be targeted, but I've been farming with the heavy armor knight. Make him and the targeted unit be on grass/forest and surround him with ppl with broken weapons (melee and bow). Strong units use the bow while weaker unites use melee weapons 😅
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You could get more complex with both knowledge gems and a boss or healing tile method, especially if it's a boss with high res or ideally both res and def. Use a bunch of broken or rusted weapons to keep up the assault, and have a magic user use weak attacks with one of the knowledge gems and then a rusted user attack, and then have the other gem traded between a healer and another character. Then I have everyone who can safely that turn pile on. If I really feel like it, I'll put other characters on the corner to take long range attacks from applicable targets while also trading the gem around. I did this pretty well on the Seth+Flayn paralogue, and I think Sylvain's with the thieves had an archer boss. The Ignatz+Raphael one worked too but he's only got one range. I know there were others, I just don't remember which ones. This way I get lots of class mastery and weapon level, bonus points if someone is an adjutant on a mount or in heavy armor.
nice idea i prefer to do 3 units with 3 adjutant since i like to sit with 3-4 enemies around each one and just go for enough defense they cant hurt me or enough avoid that they cant hit me that way i can train 6 units pretty quickly also i notice not many people who do spend time grinding they got a low level dancer near end game maybe 40-low50 on maddening at the moment on my maddening run my dancer is level 85 and i got a ton of chapters left
I'm actually currently working on a video essay on everything I don't like about three houses, and the renown system is one of the complaints. How using renown in this file then means you have less renown to carry into the next file.
I'm sure there are those who know but- On maddening mode If there are any Bishops on the Aux battle maps. They probably have renewal. So just leave them alive and surround them with rusted and or broken weapons / bows. Now everybody gets to chip away at the class XP and potentially start earning ranks in weapons to go through classes you'd normally have a bit of difficulty switching them into.
