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For every person, any camera system will have its weaknesses or maybe better put functions that don't quite click with the individual. Despite being completely happy with my equipment choices there are a small number of things that I wish were better with the Olympus m4/3rds system. This video outlines those things, but also what I've chosen to do to overcome them.
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@huwalban 2 года назад

Hello all, I just wanted to take a moment to thank everyone for their comments on this video, and also for sharing ideas on how to address the issue of weight. What the community has done is given me options and ideas that I'll admit I was a little bit blinkered to, so I really want to thank everyone for highlighting them. I'm now planning both a hiking setup and a "short walk from the car" setup in order to work around and maintain a sensible weight and quality. I'd have not been able to do that without this communities help. Thanks everyone :)

@wharfhouse 2 года назад

Hi Huw - recently found your channel and subscribed to it but was somewhat disappointed in this video - as I have been a micro four thirds user for a few years I found your thoughts were clearly mis-placed. The dynamic range of the mft is only minimally worse than the Canon (at most around 1 stop) and easily taken care of (filters / exposure stacking - in most cases the Canon would be in the same difficulties and probably require the same solution). On weight, there is the EM10 or the weather sealed EM5 to choose from for a very light weight OMD (I do a lot of hiking and use an EM10 Mark II and although not weather sealed have used it in all sorts of poor weather without issues). For lenses you need to compare apples to apples. I have the Olympus 12-45 Pro which is a fantastic lightweight lens for hiking with and has approx same focal range as you mention for the Canon. So an EM5/EM10 and 12-45 Pro is way lighter/smaller than similar spec Canon setup. The beauty about mft is that you can do small/light (with virtually no loss in quality) especially for long hikes or go bigger and full Pro if you think it is preferred/warranted - but all mft cameras work with all mft lenses so you can mix and match at will. Someone watching your channel may well be put off mft by the comments and such mis-information has contributed to holding back the format over the past years. There are well respected professionals (and many more good amateurs) using mft for what it was designed for and achieving stunning results. Of course there are pros and cons to all formats and mft does not suit every need, but neither does FF or even MF - it's horses for courses - but each format needs to be represented properly as to it's strengths and weaknesses. Anyway I hope you can put things to rights in a future video and also hope that you keep enjoying shooting with the mft format as long as it continues to meet your needs. Looking forward to your next hill walks.

@huwalban 2 года назад

@@wharfhouse Thanks Phil. I am sorry that you are disappointed. As you said in your comment there are pros and cons and those things will be personal to the individual. I would admit though that this video has been useful for me as the RU-vid community have responded with lots of options - based on their own individual experiences - to help mitigate the things that sometimes niggle at me. Lots of people have pointed out - as you did - that the E-M5 is a much lighter weight option but with no loss in features or quality. I'll be honest, I was so fixated with the PRO end of the system that I was completely blinkered to that option. You will be pleased to know that the next two videos are all about things that really make this system work for me, and also how I use them. Because of the reaction to this video I am completely confident that I'll be creating a "hiking" setup, probably centred around an E-M5iii. Thanks for the comment and I hope that the disappointment will subside.

@wharfhouse 2 года назад

@@huwalban didn't want to sound critical as it's about the images much more than the gear - I'm certainly looking forward to your future videos which continue to inspire me to get out in the hills which is what really matters for both health and creativity.

@huwalban 2 года назад

@@wharfhouse No worries sir. 100% agree with you. Hopefully I'm back out in the hills in September for a few days and am really looking forward to it. Stay safe and well.

@samanafkhami2792 2 года назад

Just FYI the e-m5 mk3 is just as reliable as an m1 when it comes to weather sealing. Trust me, I had hikes in the Swiss alps in snow and rain with the camera exposed for hours. This combined with the 12-40 2.8 or the 40-150 2.8 (and the 12-45 f4 would be even lighter). I end up with 880g (m5 mk3 + 12-40 2.8 with filter, cap, lenshood and wrist) Just give the m5 more of a chance 😉

@tntytube 2 года назад

Seems buyer remorse has got the better of you: 1. To get the same range as your Oly pro kit, you'd have to add a 70-200 to your Canon DSLR kit and your Oly kit still weighs only half as much. Conversely you could go with the Oly 12-45/12-40 instead. 2. Grad filters don't care about format war. You should try it on a 200mm on FF to see the exact same issue as on your 100m Oly lens. 3. The 5R doesn't have 4 DR stops more than the E-M1.3, but just about 2, and your friend's 5D mk 4 just 1 stop more. Your friend's can't get all of that scene in if you can't, unless you did something wrong to the camera. 4. Your E-M1.3 has the High Res and Hand Held High Res modes that increase the DR about 2 stops for high light. This is more DR than your friend's 5d mk 4. If he could get all that scene in, your E-M1.3 certainly can with HR/HHHR., which itself is particularly useful for landscapes where you get both higher DR and res. The live ND mode also increases the same amount of DR as well.

@dogs4399 2 года назад

I was a Canon FF and L lenses shooter for years. I'm now 66 and the last few trips proved that the total weight was too much. Just got back from Alaska, but this time with a EM1.3 and EM1.X plus 40-150, 300, 12-40, and 7-18. I didn't weigh it but it wasn't light; however, the equivalent Canon system would ha e weighed even more.

@peterviragphoto 2 года назад

Nice video Huw. Even though the dynamic range is relatively limited, the fact that you have figured out how to get around that has already made you a better photographer. Sometimes bracketing & using filters can definitely be a pain in the rear end, but it’s still not that big of a deal. All the other advantages that you’ve found useful in this particular system that suits your style of photography, still seems to outweigh these cons & that’s the main thing. At the end of the day You’re still out there, capturing some beautiful frames! Thanks for sharing! Cheers:)

@huwalban 2 года назад

Thank you Peter. You are most kind. I guess bracketting is just not something that comes to me naturally. I have to force myself to go about it, and it is always needed when the light is changing rapidly, and I always fear that I'm missing the moment. I then look at my photo-buddy with his 5DmkIV just pressing the shutter once... Grrr :)

@peterviragphoto 2 года назад

@@huwalban haha yep I understand😝 have a great weekend buddy!

@paulcookphotography 2 года назад

Great video Huw! While I am not an Olympus shooter, there is no denying how good cameras, of all the big brands, are nowadays. What it comes down to is if you can comfortably work with the strengths and weaknesses each camera might have. But a great presentation of the good and the "bad" of your Olympus camera - should be invaluable to anyone who is considering purchasing one. Hope you are doing well over there and keeping safe!

@huwalban 2 года назад

Thank you Paul. Yes, you are quite right and these are things that you learn over time. There is no such thing as the 100% perfect system, because for each of us it will be personal. The things that I consider to be "challenges" a street photographer might shrug off because their use of the system is completely different. We are doing OK over here thanks. I'm still taking a cautious approach to the UK opening up, but am enjoying a small slice of normality. Hope all is well with you and yours.

@markhoffman9655 2 года назад

Your example over weight of E-M1 with 12-100 compared to Canon 5d & 12-70 is bit off as the canon lens should be a 24-200 to be equivalent (If one even exists!).

@RauriBarron 2 года назад

Interesting discussion mate and it seems you have come to really understand your gear and how to overcome the constraints. You’re not wrong all systems have their pros and cons, for example I use Sony for landscape photography which I’ll be honest I’m 95% happy with, the only downside to my A7iii would be the displays/EVF being slightly dated and I only realised this after getting my Fuji. My Fuji I love, the video and photos it can produce have that “Fuji juice magic”. But! The auto focus is … hit or miss so I’ve had to come up with “work around” when vlogging to make sure I nail focus when talking. Nice work making this video, looking forward to your next video 😊

@huwalban 2 года назад

Thank you Rauri. Really appreciate the support and the comment sir.

@ChrisEdgecombePhoto 2 года назад

Good job Huw; just actually gone back to my EM1.1 (from my Pen-F) :)

@petercollins7848 Год назад

I don’t understand why people worry about overexposure in extreme highlight detail. The reality as far as my eyesight tells me, is that often the highlights in cloud and other bright areas have no detail anyway. It seems that photographers are trying to create detail where none exists. No camera system can replicate the human eye as yet, so it is chasing something that does not exist, that is why so many photographers edit their pictures in post to create something similar to what they experienced in the field and how they want to present their photo. I have Olympus, Panasonic, Canon + a number of compacts. When I take a photo, I don’t expect the camera to get it right - that is up to me.

@vladepast4936 Год назад

good job!

@gef3565 2 года назад

Thank you for your video. I face the same issue with Haida 100mm filters and then I moved to NISI 75M system. perfect for lens below 67 mm filter ring.

@huwalban 2 года назад

Thank you for your comment. Lovely to hear from someone that faced a similar challenge. I looked at the Nisi system, but I use lenses with a 72mm ring and hence the Nisi system did not fit. I understand that Lee have produced an mirrorless filter system similar to Nisi but which can fit large diameter lenses.

@jnrickards 2 года назад

Glad I watched this and read the comments, it confirmed that I'll keep with the Olympus system but my EM5 (April 2012 manufacture date) is showing signs of age (shutter speed limited to 1/400th) so I'll not look at another system but a used EM1 to replace it.

@huwalban 2 года назад

Thanks for leaving a comment Julian. I'm using an E-M1 mkII and an E-M1 mkIII - both lovely cameras and built to last out in the landscape.

@williamsiviter8760 2 года назад

Hi Hew, I started as a Canon film user in the early 1980’s and continue to have the kit, including up to date equipment. I am not a professional and consider myself as an enthusiast and not the best by any means. I like to photograph birds/wildlife, although I like landscape also. I bought into Olympus after seeing a RU-vid video from Zenography, with the Pen cameras and now have, as you, OMD M1 Mkiii. With regards to the weight, I have the Canon R6

@iqueque 2 года назад

Worrying about the future is as pointless as regretting the past. The now is so much easier to appreciate

@huwalban 2 года назад

I 100% agree. I don't regret my decision at all. As the future... I have many plans :)

@tonyrobinson8197 2 года назад

Good video. It sounds like you are having second thoughts. Technology changes rapidly and with Canon and Nikon finally embracing mirrorless and processor speeds and storage costs improving somewhat they are finally getting some wanted products out there. However, when you consider the cost of replacing the Olympus Pro lenses with only comparable larger pro (L) glass, then you have to really be committed or a full time professional photographer..The difference is eye-watering. Yes there are shortcomings in DR and sensor size means slightly smaller files, but there is a stack of benefits which make the overall system so enjoyable to use. Image stabilisation is the biggest gift. Being able to take hand-held photos without lugging a tripod and at shutter speeds that shades the competition. Colours are beautiful. The lenses are some of the sharpest, well made and comparatively well priced ( the 40-150mm f2.8 is a gem). I use a Canon 5D mark ii as well, but rarely take it out any more and find the older mirrored systems hold back the quick capture of images. I’ll stick with Olympus for now and see if the others provide the bulk of us with a better alternative going forward.

@huwalban 2 года назад

Many thanks Tony, and thanks for commenting. I've been tempted by the lure of full frame for some time, and used lockdowns here in the UK to sell off bits and pieces that we'd put to one side to eBay anyway. This has given me a fund, where I might make a purchase and use the two side by side for a period of time. I'm hoping that the Photography Show goes ahead in September so that I can actually do some hands on research. My suspicion is that I will hang onto my pennies and continue with what I have and just learn to adapt and use the system to my advantage. I completely agree with you about the stabilisation and the colours - Mr Olympus definately got those two functions completely right. I've heard a vague rumour that this new OMD Systems company is working on an Olympus full frame system, however I've no idea whether there is any truth in it.

@petereccles376 2 года назад

Ive done the same switch (Canon to Olympus) and to be fair the Canon Pro stuff I had was 1d and the weight difference to the M1 is considerable. The 1D with 70-200 f2.8 is considerably heavier than my current M1 with 40-150 f2.8 Pro and of course the M1 gives me the equiv of a 300 f2.8

@lysippus5614 2 года назад

Thank you HUW for your honest approach in actually demonstrating the Olympus system, and the trade offs that we may have to make. I think that the Olympus system (EM 5 MK 3) I have is brilliant, but I find landscape photography can be very demanding in respect of dynamic range, I don't have filters. Have you used the in built ND features on the OM1 MK3? Regarding the comments the Cannon MK4, I am reminded of the saying that, 'the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, but it is just as hard to cut.'

@huwalban 2 года назад

I have used the built in ND on the mkiii but I'm not altogether happy with the results it generates which is why I've stuck with using filters. To be fair it is something that I want to investigate farther just in case there was a flaw in my method.

@dunsunyt 2 года назад

@@huwalban Hey, actually when you use built in ND filter you get something around 2 stops of a dynamic range advantage. So basically if you can use built in ND there is no difference between FF and m43 system ! Actually E-M1 III gets better DR than Canon R6 that I own as well. Cheers

@LebronPhoto1 2 года назад

I switched from a Nikon D700 with pro lenses. My EM1 MKIII is still lighter with pro lenses and I have more reach (800mm equivalent vs 400mm) and am able to carry all of my kit in a slightly smaller bag that what I needed for the Nikon.

@williamsiviter8760 2 года назад

Hi Hew, I’ll continue after pressing the wrong button. With regard to weight, please check RU-vid videos by James Popsys who went from full frame to M43 as a professional landscape photographer. My Canon R6 with 600mm lens (I don’t have) would weigh about 5kg, compared to my Olympus M1 Mkiii and the 300mm pro at about 2kg. The Canon lens is also about 6 times the price. I do not use filters generally and accept your comments. With regard to dynamic range, the Canon R5 is full frame and £4000 plus and to be expected has better dynamic range. I like both Canon and Olympus systems but I can’t afford the former for what I want. I will, however, keep both cameras as someone in my family may get the bug. Thanks for your videos and keep them going.

@huwalban 2 года назад

Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment William. It is greatly appreciated. As I mentioned to P WX on another comment, I was just surprised at the weight of the PRO level kit and had this expectation that it would still be significantly lighter. Stay safe and well sir

@williamsiviter8760 2 года назад

@@huwalban Hi Huw, First my apologies for spelling your name incorrectly and secondly thanks for replying. I agree, the pro kit is a lot heavier, but you get superior glass that is weather sealed, and when out and about in the UK, that can be useful. Please keep commenting; it is only really through dialogue that both sides of opinions can be discussed and appreciated.

@huwalban 2 года назад

@@williamsiviter8760 Ha ha, no worries sir. Happens all the time, and at the age of 52 it no longer bothers me. I completely agree with your statement, but, as I've already stated I was surprised at just how much heavier it was. Now, I agree that it is a price worth paying to have the comfort of complete weather sealing, image quality, and build, but a lot of the "hype" of the system is the size and weight savings. Size, absolutely, but weight less so. I've been tempted back to the dark side full frame, but resisted it because I didn't want to lug a heavy backpack around. This revelation will definately feature in any future equipment choices.

@williamsiviter8760 2 года назад

Hi again Huw, As I said, I have a Canon R6 (which I had before I was tempted to Olympus), which is a great camera and have historic lenses as well as some of the cheaper RF glass. If I could afford it I probably might buy a 600mm prime lens from Canon as the AF and animal/bird recognition is fantastic. However, the Olympus 300mm equivalent is far lighter for me and has the added bonus of getting as close as 1.4m so is also great for butterflies etc. Again, I do appreciate your comment that the pro lenses are far heavier than the none pro lenses.

@bolleolympus 2 года назад

The dynamic range of your camera is 13.5 at iso 200.

@timrosenburgh9485 2 года назад

Interesting video Huw.

@evolvingphotons 2 года назад

As an Olympus user I get where you are coming from, but as you say every system has limitations & it is what you are prepared to accept. I agree that neither OMDS or Panny have pushed the boundaries of what could be possible with regards to weight, size and environmental resistance as yet, the Panny 35-100 f/4-5.6 is a great example of where you could start at 135g. For me the benefits kick in when I’m doing wildlife and can spend all day handholding lenses that would be unlikely on larger sensors. And I would argue the trade you’re making is a 200g reduction for an extra 126mm of equivalent reach, weatherproofing that works (shooting rugby in snow and hail) and the stabilisation. However, I can’t argue about filters (I’m on Kase Magnetic) or the dynamic range, you just have to do the best with the tools at hand, and it’s not a bad tool.

@ianparr1533 2 года назад

First point: Lee do a Very Hard Grad for their 100mm system that has a similar size graduated area as the Hard grad in their 85mm system which is optimised for crop sensors. Also, putting the grad filter in the furthest slot from the lens increases the hardness of the graduation (the line is more out of focus the closer it is to the lens). Second point: the histogram and overexposure blinkies on the back of the camera are derived from a JPEG. Your camera JPEG settings will influence how they appear. You may well find that your RAW file has a stop or even two of headroom left in it even though the blinkies are showing. Experiment with your set up to find out how much leeway you have on the histogram with your own settings. Thirdly: Weigh everything in your kit (including the bag itself, tripod, spare batteries, filter system etc etc etc) and figure out what percentage difference a given change will make to your total kit. For example, changing to a lens half the weight of the 12-100 PRO sounds great until you figure out that you would be shaving less than 300g off what may be an 8Kg kit. Good luck with the search for the perfect kit.

@huwalban 2 года назад

Hello Ian. Excellent point on the Hard grad. I kept my old Lee filters when I swapped to Nisi, and have recently been using my original Hard grad when on a long zoom lens - OK, it isn't perfect, but with careful positioning it can produce very convincing results. Thank you so much for sharing.

@photoman3579 2 года назад

I use the very hard gad by NISI too....so good

@MichaelGerrard 2 года назад

It is true that Oly Pro lenses are big and heavy by M43 standards. However, you compared a Canon 24-70 to the Oly Pro 12-100? That is apples and oranges, you have vastly more reach with the Oly. A fairer comparison would be the Oly Pro 12-45 f4, that is half the weight of the 12-100. E-m1 III 580kg + 12-45 254kg = 834kg

@huwalban 2 года назад

Thanks Michael. Yes, a few people pointed that out and you are quite correct. I choose the 12-100 because it is my favourite lens. I chose the 24-70 for the same reason. Definately given me something to think about in order to claw back those grammes. All the best.

@terrywbreedlove 2 года назад

@@huwalban I am surprised how good the high resolution mode in Photoshop works. I just also picked up the Topaz software which reviewers are saying works even better. Can’t wait to try it out.

@marekmkm744 2 года назад

Em1 + 12-45 weights ... 834 kg???? man, I would need two purebred percherons to help me with that ... 😁🤣😂😱

@wherezthebeef Год назад

Literally everything in life is a trade-off, compromise, entails cost vs. benefit analysis, and personally, even when I know I've done my due diligence , intellectually I know that I've made the right decision, I still often have that nagging doubt, buyer's remorse, second guess myself. Then.. for example, with my EM-1 Mk i, all I have to do is print my work and know I made the correct choice. Thanks M8, this inner dialogue is just very human(!) and most of us can totally relate! Just watch out for G.A.S ... it's self-defeating.

@huwalban Год назад

Thank you so much for your comment. My faith in humanity is restored. You called out my inner thoughts perfectly, and you are absolutely right every choice is a compromise of sorts. You are right about G.A.S. too, although in my elderly years I am becoming slight wiser and less prone to impulse purchases. I am however, enjoying the investigation of potential new kit (just need to remember to leave the credit card at home!). Thanks once again.

@photoman3579 2 года назад

What you on about the equivalent Canon kit is way heavier

@dragosstoica6371 2 месяца назад

Hi. It seems you put the line between the grey zone and the clear zone of the graduated filter high in the frame so that when you zoom the line gets out at the up end of the frame.... so there is no line any more because the framing is underneeth that line. Correct me if I am wrong. I have the same set up as yours, but no graduated filter to test that issue by myself.

@huwalban 2 месяца назад

Hello, I did this to clearly demonstrate the behaviour of the line for the video. However there are occasions especially in very bright scenes where it actually becomes a challenge to “hide’ the transition from graduated to clear. I know that I could bracket and blend in software but to me that is such a fuss to go to. It isn’t a bit issue for me, but it is something that occasionally irritates me hence the mention in the video. I should also make clear that these things are occasional and at most irritations, but to balance the great aspects of the m4/3rds system there will always be things that are not so perfect. Many thanks for watching and for leaving a comment. It is appreciated.

@chetanunindracusin664 2 года назад

You are right always fine the way to correct it in carmera ps.with oly since em 5 never look back cheer

@photoman3579 2 года назад

I use NISI 100mm system for my EM1-2 no issues at all and I can easily see where the filter is....I tend to use the view finder..

@keithpinn152 2 года назад

Hi Huw: Another great video and thanks for you candid representation of the Pros & Cons of the Olympus system. Are you still considering moving camera eco-systems? Cheers, Keith

@huwalban 2 года назад

Thank you Keith. You are most kind. This video has been such an education for me, especially with regard to all of the suggestions and options that have been presented in the comments. Interestingly there are a few of my subscribers that appear to use both a FF and m43 system, and use then dependant on the situation they are in. As a result, I am tempted to look at adopting the same model. My options are the moment are the Panasonic S1R, the Canon R5, and the Sony A7RIV. There is a photography show in September here in England which still looks to be going ahead, so I'm hoping that I'll have the opportunity to actually have a play and help me decide my next move.

@royd63uk 2 года назад

@@huwalban Hi Huw, as a second additional option take a look at the Sony A7C

@photomaker4502 2 года назад

Regarding grad filter: From 35mm to about 50mm, hard and soft GNDs both have a place. Something between the two would really be ideal; hard grads are a bit too harsh, and soft grads don’t have a massive effect. I would tend toward a soft GND when the horizon is broken by an obvious mountain, tree, or something similar. In most other cases, a hard GND will be preferable. With that being said, telephoto lenses beyond 70mm, I really wouldn’t use a GND with really any brand of camera. I would bracket my shots when shooting beyond 70mm .

@meyrickgriffith-jones3908 2 года назад

The trouble is Huw, everyone wants to believe the marketing bit (their system is fabulous), and no one wants to believe that their system has engineering limitations. As you go to a smaller sensor, and go for high pixel densities, you start needing very very high quality lenses. But, everyone else can make a lens of similar quality, so in the end once one starts to enlarge, the small sensor will lose out - more in image contrast, than in detail. Equally, dynamic rage - we have stood side by side frequently, and you compare the effective dynamic range of a 5D4 against whatever Olympus it is that you are using, and the difference is marked. I'm afraid one simply cannot beat the limitations of the approximations in the FFT in the A to D Converter. (I like signal processing ;) )

@SzymonPytel 2 года назад

Well it depends i see on my em1mark2 i can push it up to +1.7. And its only jpg warning. If you put it on internal raw processor of Olympus you will see you can easily get that sky back, no need for bracketing.

@davejsullivan 2 года назад

If you can believe the Dxomark website, the E-M1 Mark II has a dynamic range of 12.8 Evs. Not bad since many full frames are around 14 or so on their page. I would think the M1.3 would be similar.

@huwalban 2 года назад

Thanks for watching David. I believe you are correct in that the OM-D E-M1iii, and I believe that the E-M5iii is also the same but lighter in weight and also weather sealed. I've had a few excellent and helpful comments that the OM-D system is pretty close to FF in terms of DR - so much so that I am sorely tempted to compare side by side looking at the same scene :)

@davejsullivan 2 года назад

@@huwalban please compare!

@Jay19876 2 года назад

@@huwalban There have been comparisons between the Canon RP and the EM1 miii for dynamic range and surprisingly the Olympus has more dynamic range at base ISO! However, the Canon RP begins to have better dynamic range at higher ISO levels.

@huwalban 2 года назад

@@Jay19876 Thanks for letting me know. The revelations from people far more educated than me about these sorts of techicalities has been outstanding, and definately food for thought for the future. It has even been suggested that I simply bracket every image I create anyway rather than have to think about it which is a brilliant suggestion! :)

@borderlands6606 2 года назад

I rarely agree with Tony Northrop (on anything!), however he recently said words to the effect that the only thing stopping full frame being a universal format, is a range of compact prime lenses. Full frame cameras have shrunk in recent years - my Lumix S5 is marginally smaller than the micro four thirds G9 - but lenses remain large. However if you compare lenses by depth of field rather than maximum aperture, lens weight and size is similar across formats. For those who don't care about shallow depth of field, like landscape, street and architectural photographers, wide aperture lenses are a luxury we don't need. Mirrorless cameras don't require extra light to focus, unlike DSLRs, and compact full frame f2.8 primes would be just the ticket. I also use a m43 compact camera, which is where the format's weight and size for image quality, excel. Pro micro four thirds kit, excellent in its own right and brilliant for sports and wildlife, does not deliver what I'm looking for in a camera.

@stevenbirds2920 2 года назад

Hello, Nice presentation style and enjoying the talk but immediate thought is you are comparing apples with pears when citing the size and eight of the two zoom lenses. The Olympus had much greater reach ( 200mm in FF terms ) it has a built in manual clutch override, a lens function button, and in built stabilisation which works on sync with the camera. It’s also, as you say weather sealed ( try holding the canon camera and lens under a running tap !). Also, of course it’s a constant f4 aperture. By all normal rules it should be a complete dog of a lend ad far as image quality is concerned but as has been reported across a number of platforms, it’s probably the finest super zoom on the market, My wife, who hates changing lenses in the field uses it and providing you can work with the f4 aperture ( it’s sharp at f4) and the busier background blur it’s a really good one lens solution for most. It was not available when I bought into the system and so I use the 12-40 and 40-250, which in combination and coupled with the 1.4 converter gives me coverage from 24- 420mm at f2.8 and the whole kit goes in a Billingham Hadley Pro bag with room to space. Back in the four third days Olympus made a 12-60mm mm f2.8-f4 lens. I suspect what you really want is a constant, internal focussing version of that lens, ideally with a constant f2.8 aperture?

@MDMiller60 2 года назад

I watched the change to the MFT system. Might I suggest that you add an overlay to that video in the Features and Functions part to show Live Composite, Pro Capture, Hi Res jpg, Live ND filter, etc.

@huwalban 2 года назад

Hello there. Thank you for watching and leaving a comment. I've got a video coming up in January next year where I talk about how I use Live Bulb. I've had a play with Live ND but I have to admit that I'm not happy with the result that it produces and have stayed using the actual filters instead. I've seen some results using Live Composite and I have to admit that I am seriously impressed. I've also used the Hi-Res mode in order to extract a few more stops of dynamic range in the final file. I've also seen some lovely natural history images from users of Pro Capture too, although as a landscaper that this not a function that I'm likely to use. I have other videos planned too where I show off the Olympus function I use and how they benefit my approach to landscape photography. Stay safe and well.

@azjoe_6310 2 года назад

True about the weight with a 12-100 but you have almost 2 lenses in one compared to the 24-70. One other point: I see postings on FB and RU-vid where people have so many lenses in their m43 bag with so much weight that I wonder why they ever left full frame 🤔. I just stuck with the 12-40 2.8 and 35-100 2.8. I would rather use “another lens” money to travel with what I have plus unlike when I had my Canon 6D with 5 lenses I don’t debate for 2 months what combination of lenses I would take with me if I only wanted to take 2 or 3.

@huwalban 2 года назад

Hello there. Many thanks for watching and leaving a comment. One thing this video has done is opened my eyes to all sorts of things that I just took for granted - the versatility of the 12-100 lens being one of them. As you say in FF terms it is probably two lenses, and therefore the weight is justified. Thanks again.

@peterkapunkt6783 2 года назад

It's sort of a lens creep :D They just come and never go. But seriously, I currently own 4, but would need a 5th (longest is currently 45mm) and I have to think about the lenses I take with me. I almost miss the days of just owning a 14-140 plus a prime. That is not quite what I had in mind when deciding to use mft and I really need to simplify my kit again.

@jean-charles9931 2 года назад

Hello Huw, sorry to pop in discussion one month later. I use Lee 100 system on 24x36 and I'm not convinced that skipping to Lee 85 for crop sensors will make a big difference for you on the field, apart from spending extra money. Try maybe to test it before purchasing. And for dynamic range, there are now good and rather light 24x36 lenses competiting with Oly 12-100 (24-200 on Nikon Z, 24-240 on Canon R). Ok you will miss full weather sealing, but price tag is interesting (In France, 2700€ for M1 + 12-100, 2900€ for Z6II + 24-200). Looking forward to driving again to the UK and have some good landscape session, when this pandemia is over.

@huwalban 2 года назад

No problem at all Jean-Charles :) I can confirm that I'll not be adopting the Lee85 system and will live and learn to cope with what I have for now. Someone made the excellent suggestion of adding a hard grad to my setup just for instances where I'm using a longer zoom. Fortunately I still have my original Lee 100x150 resin grads so have been having a play to try them out. Stay safe and well, and thank you for commenting.

@j16m02 2 года назад

A couple comments if I may. I'm a Sony/Olympus shooter so I'm familiar with both. I shot with the 12-100/4 for a few yrs before I got the Sony A7R III. I've been tempted to pick one up again, until I do an analysis of the E-M1 III with the 12-100/f4 vs the Sony A7R III with the Tamron 28-200/2.8-5.6. First, and very important to me (older than you) is that the Sony combo is only about 75gm heavier than the Oly and almost identical in size. Filter size is 67mm for the Sony/Tamron as opposed to 72mm for the Oly. The 12-100mm/4 is full frame equivalent of a constant f8.0 compared to the Tamron at 2.8-5.6. The A7R III is 42 mp with a dynamic range of 15 stops!! I don't know if you carry a wide angle lens, but just incase that's important, the Tamron 17-28/2.8 is roughly 115 gm lighter than the Oly 7-14/2.8 pro. If you are willing to go with pre owned, you can pick up a like new, A7R III for around $1300 (I don't know how many quid that is ) The Tamron lenses are also weather sealed and a fair bit cheaper than the Oly Pro lenses. I'm keeping my E-M10 IV for walk around, but for my main interests, birding, landscape, and grand kids, the Sony, for the price and size, is hard to beat. Just a thought.

@greggpedder 2 года назад

James Landers Incorrect. The Olympus 12-100 Pro is the Full Frame Equivalent of 24-200 f4 (NOT f8 as to suggest). Aperture "equivalence" ONLY applies to depth of field that is it, but it's still an f4 lens and the exposure would not change due to the sensor size. Also no one buys an f4 superzoom to get razor thin DoF so with this lens it's a non issue. Also, the build "quality" and reliability of Sony cameras leaves a lot to be desired. I see 3 or 4 Sony shutter failures a DAY on Facebook. In the Fuji forums about 1 or 2 a year and I've never heard of an Olympus shutter failing.

@j16m02 2 года назад

@@greggpedder Hey Greg. Of course you are right about the exposure. I know that and should have clarified my comment. I would respectfully disagree regarding DOF though. Personally, when out shooting landscape, I will shoot, wild flowers, butterflies, or say a cluster of autumn leaves, and if I want to blur out the background, any little bit helps. With regards to Sony reliability, as near as I can tell, that assumption is based only on "urban legend" not facts. I'd love you to prove me wrong, but I've never seen any actual research that supports this claim. Mostly, it seems to be one of those "people say" type of "facts". I bought my first Sony camera in 2007 and have owned at least one Sony body ever since then, and never a failure of any kind. I agree, the build quality of the Olympus E-M1's is superb. (while my E-M10 IV build is is very poor), but the only camera I've ever had fail me was an E-M1 back in the day. (rear control dial issue). Personally, I can't recall ever reading about a Sony shutter failure, though they certainly do happen, like any other camera brand. We must just read different stuff. The point of my comments was not to disparage Olympus, but to say, "I too love the Olympus system, but I too have a lot of the same issues as you, (Huw) and here is a solution I have found that is worth your consideration". I will continue to shoot and enjoy both systems, each for their own particular strengths.

@huwalban 2 года назад

James & Greg, thank you both for you comments and debate. The weight comparison is very very interesting, and to hear of someone else using the benefits of both a FF and m43 set up just adds to the growing body of evidence that it is something that I should explore. There is a camera show near Birmingham in September that I am hoping goes ahead so that I can do some hands on research. Thanks again and stay safe out there.

@MDMiller60 2 года назад

Aren't the lenses, one by one, mostly still lighter than Canon (and Nikon). I did a spreadsheet on my change from Nikon to Olympus.

@hanzkilian1806 2 года назад

Hi, just started to subscribe. As a long term Olympus shooter I love the system, however I am a bird shooter in Australia, and difficult for me, I do from a 4X4 wheelchair. I agree with you, it is important to be a photographer and not to be a software expert. Re this video and your comment on bracketing. Could you not benefit from HDR? Olympus has a great HDR feature on their cameras. cheers from Australia

@huwalban 2 года назад

Thank you Hanz, and warm greetings from England. I always shoot RAW so that I have the maximum options when it comes to software. Unless I am mistaken I believe that the HDR function only creates a JPG, and then a series of RAWs. I could be wrong though. I have used the HDR function when out taking holiday snaps or trying a bit of street photography and you are right it is bloomin clever, if a little hungry on the battery. Stay safe and well sir.

@marshazangroniz9168 2 года назад

I came from Nikon. Big change, to say the least. I have my Nikon gear in the closet. I started with Zuiko lenses and have moved to pro lenses. I live in South Florida where humidity and storms can reign in the summer. They are heavier, but I love them.

@huwalban 2 года назад

Thanks Marsha. The quality and weather sealing of the PRO lenses is a price that I am prepared to pay, but I am careful with my choice of which one to take with me on the day so that I avoid carrying un-necessary weight around. Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment. It is appreciated.

@1957PLATO 2 года назад

Regarding the weight the Canon 24-70 f 2.8 is 900 grams. The Olympus 12-40 f 2.8 is about half the weight. The Canon r body only is only about 100 grams heavier than the Oly em1iii. Now the Canon 5d iv weight….

@huwalban 2 года назад

You are so right! I've used the 12-40PRO, although I have to say I prefer the versatility of the 12-100 and it rarely leaves the front of my OM-D E-M1iii However I hope you get the point I was trying to make, and I'll be honest that before researching this video it wasn't something that I'd ever actually checked out. Not complaining though :)

@1957PLATO 2 года назад

@@huwalban I came from Canon 5diii and found that as I am getting older the weight of this system has become too much when hiking. I only use it when I can drive up to the place where I will photograph. On photowalks I take my em5ii with 3 small primes (not weather sealed) and I can walk all day. The pro lenses of Olympus are indeed heavy, as are the pro bodies. The canon Eos R is not even considered a pro body, that would be the R5 or R6. No idea what the weight of these 2 is. FF bodies are getting lighter and smaller but the fast pro zoom lenses in FF will always be much heavier than their m4/3 counterparts. Every system has its pro’s and cons. In the end you use the right tool for the job at hand..

@hanzkilian1806 2 года назад

Hi, I note your thoughts on weight, however the Canon you compare it to is what 10yrs old. How does weight compare to an equivalent modern Canon and Canon pro lenses??? Cheers from Australia

@huwalban 2 года назад

Hello Hanz. That is actually a very fair point. The point I was trying to make (and not very well in truth) was that when I bought into the Olympus system the weight saving was light and day with my old Formula 1 setup, but now I’ve bought into the PRO lenses and the E-M1 bodies that weight saving is maybe not quite so stark. Great point though and thank you for supporting the channel.

@terrywbreedlove 2 года назад

I shoot Olympus for wildlife. I shoot the EM1X with the 300mm F4 and 40-150 F2.8 and the 12-40 F2.8. To get the equivalent FF kit it would be much much bigger and so much more expensive. For Landscapes I might would go FF mirrorless with the Nikon Z system. Because you don’t need the big long lenses for that and weight isn’t bad. But I might also stay with Olympus and get the EM5 with one or two of the wide zooms.

@huwalban 2 года назад

Yes, there have been other comments here to this video that echo your approach. I will be honest in that I hadn't thought of a FF system actually working alongside an MFT one. Very tempted to actually give it a try.

@rajgangadharan Год назад

An interesting video, I recently switched from FF to Micro4/3. I still have my Canon 6D mk2 with 24-70 and 70-200 L lenses. Main reason for my switch to Olympus was the size and weight saving, especially when you are out on a walk or hike. Dynamic range on the Full frame is myth, it depends on the sensor. As an example “DXO mark” published Dynamic Range for EOS 5D mk4 is 13.6 where as EM1 Mark ii is 12.8. hardly one stop difference. The same site also reports the dynamic range on a EOS 6D mark ii is 11.9. lower than a micro4/3. The ISO plays a role in dynamic range, to get the best dynamic range in micro4/3 its better to use base ISO, which is 200 for EM1

@huwalban Год назад

Thank you. Numbers aside, I've also found that the highlights on an Olympus RAW file are much more challenging to recover than the shadows. Olympus RAWs hold stacks of shadow detail, but at the other end I've always struggled. Still, it is a very capable system, and I'm reading that the OM-1 is also a step forward for the overall solution.

@peterl7354 2 года назад

E1, em1 MK2 and Z5 owner here. There is no doubt that m43 has its limitations and that the FF gear comes very close in terms of size weight and convenience these days. For example, any latest Sony A7 range + very good Tamron. 28-200 is neither larger not heavier than your om-d setup. It may be all a landscape photographer ever needs + a wide angle prime. It is not easy for the om-d to compete with such option, assuming a landscape use case.

@huwalban 2 года назад

Hello Peter. Many thanks for watching and for taking the time to leave a comment. You've summed up my dilema perfectly and probably far more clearly than I did in the video :) I'm pretty sure that I will be buying into a FF system to complement my Olympus setup, but haven't quite made the decision yet. I see that there is an Olympus event announcement on the 27th October...

@RichardsModellingAdventures 2 года назад

I have an em1X with 7-14, 12-40, 40-150. New all of this costs £4810 ( I didn't buy all of it new) To replace the same focal length range and a camera of similar spec by the following would cost:- Sony £7630, Nikon £8800, canon £9210. I also have an em1-2 as aspare body. In real world terms Olympus offer incredible value for money.

@huwalban 2 года назад

I cannot argue with your maths sir, and I completely accept the point you are making. Some comments have suggested marrying a FF system alongside an MFT one - use the MFT for those mountain walks, and the FF when it is just a short stroll from the car. I hadn't even considered this as an option and am keen to maybe give it a try. Thanks for leaving the comment - really helps.

@RichardsModellingAdventures 2 года назад

@@huwalban You really need to ask what FF gives you over MFT to warrant doing this?

@photoman3579 2 года назад

@@huwalban Youd never use the FF syatem...I have two very good friends that have the 2 systems....they never use the FF systems...lol

@bolleolympus 2 года назад

The 5th line in my comment, the word:burt shuld be higlight. I could no change it so..... The dynamic range of your camere is 13.5 at 200 iso.

@bamsemh1 2 года назад

I switched from canon 5dmk4 with 24-105mm F4L, to Olympus m1 mk2 with 12-100mm f4 pro lens.

@peterkapunkt6783 2 года назад

And what are your thoughts so far?

@bamsemh1 2 года назад

@@peterkapunkt6783 no regrets 😊 or, only 1. I wish I knew about olympus before buying my first dslr 😅 started with canon 2000D>80D>5dmk4>rp and then olympus om-d e-m1 mark ii. So much money could have been saved 😅

@huwalban 2 года назад

Thank you for watching Villiam , and thank you for taking the time to leave a comment. It is gratefully appreciated. Sometimes though I think we need to cycle through the options in order to find the one that best sits. This is where I use photography shows to try and spend some time with the product and save some of that spend :)

@DannyB-cs9vx 2 года назад

On weight, you added capabilities over what you had with the Cannon. So now compare what the Cannon system would weigh to have the same capabilities. The Olympus M5 is lighter and still waterproof. Same sensor quality. If you can do with 16mp, used bodies are reasonably priced. Some say the 16 looks as good as the 20 because of no AA filter on the sensor. For landscapes you don't need one. On the filter location in your scene, maybe come up with a way to have a temporary marker that you can remove when ready to take the shot. A filter guide could be made with a thin strip of metal or even a wire. Bent a hook on one end that you could hook over the top of your filter. Make the length so that it goes down to the desired place. When ready to shoot, lift off your guide. For a test, a piece of aluminum foil will tell you if this would work for you.

@huwalban 2 года назад

Thanks for watching Danny. The marker is a cracking idea, I had not thought of that! I have to admit that I've taken to using the live histogram as a measure rather than physically look for the graduated bit. I've also purchased a hard grad for those occasions when I'm on a long zoom as it is then slightly easier to "see" - the histogram rules though. Thank you for tip.

@Jay19876 2 года назад

Considering the 12-100mm F4 Pro covers an angle of view range equivalent to 24mm to 200mm on Full Frame cameras, I would argue that for a landscape photographer you have substantial weight savings considering that single lens acts as a 24-70mm and a 70-200mm lens. However, any lens with built in stabilization is larger than one without. Also your argument about the weight between your old Canon and EM1 miii seems flawed considering Olympus offers the compact 12-45mm F4 Pro which would cover the same angle of view as your old Canon lens. Further more, the EM5 miii offers the same IPX1 rated weather sealing as the Pro lenses so if you wanted to save more on weight you could go for that camera instead.

@Jay19876 2 года назад

Here is a link to the dynamic range test between the EM5 mii and the Canon RP. Surprisingly the Olympus has a dynamic range advantage at base ISO! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-38dURlv3RPo.html

@huwalban 2 года назад

Yes, that has also been pointed out to me, and I accept that with the benefit of hindsight I am not comparing apples with apples. Again, it has taken the brilliant RU-vid community to open my eyes to the fact that really I am less challenged than I thought :)

@LarsLarsen77 2 года назад

Bracketing is built into the camera. You just change the shutter mode to HDR.

@huwalban 2 года назад

Hello Lars. Thanks for watching. Yes, I recently discovered this function and create a customer shutter to go alongside the bracket, and then stored the whole setup in a custom function. Now I just turn the dial to C1 and I'm setup for a 5 shot bracket at 0.7EV Genius!

@photobillyexplores Год назад

do you use L64 iso all the time? that wont help DR at all... 200 is recommended for a reason

@huwalban Год назад

Apologies for the delay in acknowledging. All been a bit busy over the last few weeks here at Alban production studios :) No, I don't use L64 that often for exactly the reasons you describe. However, sometimes it is hand to have, but I know that I'll have to "wash" the image through Topaz when I process it.

@photobillyexplores Год назад

I probably could have worded that better without sound like a nob 🙈

@huwalban Год назад

@@photobillyexplores Ha ha, fantastic reply. I needed a smile this evening (have come down with a cold and am feeling sorry for myself). I got what you were trying to say, and by the way you were quite right :)

@steveworthington930 2 года назад

Getting it right in camera is good advice, not all can afford expensive filter system,s. So use LR, under expose, then bring up in post, being carefull not to introduce noise, with my Olympus minus 0.3EV is standard, maybe more in harsh condition,s, exp to the right is rubbish. Bracketing is a good option, why you dismiss it, no idea?

@huwalban 2 года назад

Hello Steve. I made the investment in a filter system in my Canon days and that has been carried forward and upgraded, with the older gear helping to fund the newer. I don't have a problem with bracketing as such, it just isn't something that I naturally think of in order to control a situation. I also hate the software side of digital photography, so the thought of having to "play" when I get home in order to get the image I can see for real just makes my heart sink. My photo buddy, who appears briefly in the B roll, has "another" camera system and can capture most scenes in one frame. Every once in a while I am jealous that he can do that. BTW I am so with you on ETTR - I've done it and can never recover the details in the highlights to the same extent in software afterwards (plus my hatred of software as well :) ) Thanks for the comment sir. It is greatly appreciated.

@marekmkm744 2 года назад

My opinion : 1* weight. if you are comparing em 1, shouldn't you compare it to flagship from canon ? that would be eos 1... some kilo and a half itself. Eos 5 is ok, but it's not a top top from canon. You can do a lot with it, of course, so can you with oly 5 or even 10. that's the comparition. 2* filters... I am using soft graduated on panasonic 25 mm with ring of only 46 mm.... the filter is made for 77 mm diameter ( cokin P series) and I have no problem with it. The way I am doing it is moving the filter away from the lens a bit more. I'm putting all the step rings from 46 mm to 77 , which actually moves the filter away by a few centimeters. Works for me anyway. In your case obviously it could be used only when zoomed in, otherwise the filter would be too small to cover the picture. If the lens is zoomed in and you move the filter out a bit it should fit into picture perfectly. 3* DR ... well, me myself, I noticed, different software deals differently with it. Working on a photo in my laptop, using two different programs, I can get better results in one of them ( working with raw only of course). Rgds

@huwalban 2 года назад

Thanks for watching Marek, and thank you for sharing a tip on making the grad more visible. I have several step rings so should be able to actually try this one out! Stay safe and well sir

@miroslavkral5406 2 года назад

I'm using COKIN ND filters and they have not strong edge between light and dark half. In the set there is 3 filters... L (light), M (medium) and S (strong). No problems with dose filters and they were much, much, much, less in price than your fancy LEE filters. The holder is 72 mm but in kit you'll get 76 mm step down ring too. I'm 71 years old and hauling an E-3 with 50-200 M1 and E-520 with 12-60 SWD at once and I'm considering them light wait (I'm not a HULK). So don't cry over your gear.

@RamblingTog 2 года назад

i know what id rather carry having got bot a Canon and Olympus set ups.

@pwx8460 2 года назад

I'm confused with your grad issue. Yes, a grad filter gradient will be less apparent with any longer lens and with any sensor. Try the same filter with the 200mm Canon lens. I could go on about the weight comparison already mentioned by others. To be fair apples need to be compared to apples. DXO suggests a one stop dynamic range delta between the cameras instead of 4. 4 would be huge. Also the database only currently has the em1-mk2 version and the mk3 may have slight improvements.

@huwalban 2 года назад

On my full frame camera I never noticed the "less apparence" however I notice it all the time with the smaller sensor kit. I've found a way to work around it, but when I first encountered it my heart sank. Fair comment on weight, however I was surprised by the weight of the PRO gear in comparison to full frame - I guess I always expected it to be significantly lighter. Many thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.

@pwx8460 2 года назад

@@huwalban looks like the more comparable 12-40 would save you another ~200 grams.

@huwalban 2 года назад

@@pwx8460 That is true sir, and I have used one however I've really fallen for the 12-100 and now it rarely leaves the front of my camera :)

@davejsullivan 2 года назад

Put a 24-200 lens on the Canon and weigh that. That would match the 12-100 better. Not sure Canon even makes a lens like that.

@huwalban 2 года назад

I think there is a 24-200 in the Nikon Z range but I've no idea of its weight. Thanks for watching.

@paulduckworth1121 2 года назад

@@huwalban 24-200 is 570g* and a Z 7 ii is 705g* (with battery and memory card) - so together weighing in at 1275g ... so same ballpark as the Canon and Olympus (pro body and lens) that you mention in the video. *Figures from Nikon website Really good, well presented video. Enjoyed watching.

@huwalban 2 года назад

@@paulduckworth1121 Thanks buddy. An interesting comparison you made there with a FF system.

@PekkoAhlsten 2 года назад

I've been using the z 24-200 and Z6ii for a while now for landscape photography and absolutely loving the quality and dynamic range (switched from the GH5). The lens is also weather sealed. Together with the Z 14-30 it gives me a great range in a compact package without any weight penalty compared to my previous GH5 system.

@Leptospirosi 2 года назад

You are looking at the green grass of your neighbour: your Olympus has about 12.3 stops of dynamic range, while the 5DMkIV is around, may be, 13.1? Even the best in class, the Sony A7R mkIV would get you about 14 and some change: this is due to a larger sensor (but in a very small part) and a MUCH more modern technology (Stacked, dual gain, BSI etc), which is about 5 years younger then what you have into your EM1 mkIII. I could even question your choice of the MkIII as for landscape photography, both an EM1 MkII "OR", even better, an EM5MkIII would have done exactly the same for you, all sporting the same sensor, dynamic range and both costing way less, the EM5 being much lighter, and being perfectly weather sealed. Now imagine how much would a Sony A7R MkIV cost you with a couple of pro grade G master lens (24-70 and 70-200mm): 10K pounds? How much would have weighted? How larger the bag? What about a Fuji X-T3 APS for peanuts and a couple of lenses? Better dynamic range and no IBIS that you don't use on a tripod and may be a 16-80 F4 zoom, not exactly the same reach of your 12-100mm but cheap as a kit lens. It would be still be slightly larger and heavier then you combo anyway. Rumors say sometime next year, the new flagship m43 sensor cameras will come out, with, at your choice, 20Mp or 34Mp, BSI, Dual Gain, Stacked sensor same as the most modern Sony FF and even faster due to the smaller size for video. I'm choosing Sony because they have the same sensor technology of the upcoming Olympus and Panasonic, while Canon, with the R5 and R6 does not surpass Sony in DR, weights more and costs about the same as a system. You can chose any brand you like as variable, but the result of the equation wont change. There is no Bad or Good. Full Frame and, at the moment even APSC has the advantage in DR and low light, so if that is all you are looking for, may be you have the wrong system, but you have to look at the problems as well: weight, size, as modern FF lenses are much larger and heavier then those you were used to on the 5D as you need much better glass on such high res sensors, and over everything else, the costs. Not that Olympus is bad by any stretch of imagination as a Landscape camera, but I really don't get your points criticizing a very capable camera with a single lens that gives you effective 24-200mm equivalence, best in class for weather sealing and still weighting less then a FF with a much shorter zoom.

@huwalban 2 года назад

Thank you for your very detailed comment. Can I be completely clear - I am not being critical of this system. I've used it for over 7 years and have captured some fantastic images with it, and will continue to do so for many years to come. Your comment about the E-M5iii is completely valid, and I'll admit not something that I thought of. That has been a huge positive of this video for me - the fact that the community out there have opened my eyes to other options. I have actually tonight posted and pinned a comment here thanking everyone for sharing their own experiences and options with regard to overcoming the little niggles I have with my own choices. I'm going to take all this great feedback and ideas and plan my next moves. I cannot thank the RU-vid community enough for sharing their views with me. Thanks also for sharing the rumour on the new m43 developments. I'd heard similar whispers but have not been able to find out much in the way of details. Have you any idea when next year they might emerge. I've been saving up for some time now using the UK covid lockdowns to clear out old tech etc and some shiny new toys are always popular. Thanks again for the support.

@LarsLarsen77 2 года назад

Several of the Olympus lenses are heavier, slower, and more expensive than the canon RF equivalent (not accounting for crop factor). The smaller lens mount makes it possible to make lighter lenses, but canon can do basically the same thing by just making the lens 99% air with a thin plastic shell around it.

@markhoffman9655 2 года назад

Please state an actual example of a big, slow,heavy Olympus lens eqivalent of a Canon RF lens or are you just making it up as you troll along?

@bobfarley4102 2 года назад

You're going to compare the weight on two different focal length lenses and expect me to take you seriously?

@huwalban 2 года назад

A number of other comments also point this out, and I have acknowledged the weakness in my comparison. As I've stated on a number of other comments, there are aspects and advantages of the Olympus system that I'd taken for granted. This video has been a fantastic wake up call for me (and hopefully for others) with regard to just how good the system is, and I'm at least man enough to admit my own errors :)

@aiofilms 2 года назад

I am not sure the points raised in this video are valid. The dynamic range challenge the M4/3 camera system is a known physics limitation or inferiority if you will. Most people in the photography community are aware of it. When you buy into an M4/3 camera body you are accepting this weakness at the same time. This is not Olympus specific problem. The filter challenge is even more a non-issue. It’s simply physics no other camera systems can change. In fact, as most photo enthusiasts know that camera with larger sensors having narrower depth of field will only make the “issue” more prominent. M4/3 cameras with the same equivalent focal length actually give you more distinct edge line than those with larger sensors. I don’t know what you are complaining about. What you can do is to get larger size ND grad filters and move it further away from your front lens element. This way, you will get more definite differentiation of the two zones. Again, this is simply the physics of depth of field. About the weight challenge, if you are willing to use the newer incarnation of the F4 series of Olympus Pro lenses, the 8-25mm in particular, or Lumix lenses of the same class, your weight saving will be huge while keeping the weather resistant functionality. Try it.

@huwalban 2 года назад

Hello Derek. Thank you for your very considered and detailed comment. I've had lots of information shared as a result of this video giving me lots of options to work within the system, and I am incredibly grateful to everyone taking the time to share their knowledge. All your insights are valid, and I am working on a "how I worked around them" follow up to this video using all of the ideas and suggestions. Thanks again, and stay safe out there

@przybylskipawel 2 года назад

OK... Olympus E-m1 III with 12-100 is an eqivalent of Canon R6 (890g) body + 24-70 (f4 is 600g) and 70-200 (f4 is 700g), but in one lens. Granted, Canon will give you better IQ and better bokeh, but as for the weight... ;/ C'mon it is 2190g! If you stay at 24-70mm range you have 1490g with Canon but with olympus you have 580g + 380g for 12-40 2.8 pro. That gives you 960g and 10mm ff equiv. more reach. And if you decide on Canon 2.8 lens you have 800g. That translates to 1690g total! If you want to reach 200mm at 2.8 you end up with a whooping 2660g! At the same time with olympus you get 960g + 880g for 40-150 pro that give you 1740g and 100mm more reach. Such comparisons can go on and on! You get what you carry. Olympus is a lighter gear with compromises on IQ but if you end up with something too heavy, this means you either compare apples to oranges or don't know what gear to carry with you.

@huwalban 2 года назад

All true Pawel. The point of the comment made in the video was my surprise as to the weight of PRO spec level Olympus kit, especially compared to when I first made my Olympus purchase. As you say it is all a personal choice, and I am looking into the 12-45PRO lens and the more recent 12-200 lens as options too - that way I get the best of both worlds. Thank you for watching and leaving a comment. Greatly appreciated

@przybylskipawel 2 года назад

@@huwalban Basically if you entered the system for its lightweight size, but then get tempted to get hi-end bodies and lenses that has also gigantic reach, of course you'll end up with more weight. I remind that E-M5 III is also weather-sealed weighs less than a pound with a battery. With 12-45 pro (254g) this setup will be feathelight. But with too many compromises for my taste.

@mikereilly4518 Год назад

Seems more like lack of research or understanding of that research. To get a pro setup camera and equivalent 24-200pro lens weighing in at 1200g . "Its going to be lighter in my bag" is still relevant, perhaps not as much with a mft pro set up and non pro mft up but in comparison to other formats ? Totally !

@huwalban Год назад

Hello Mike. Yes, that is a fair comment. I really did not appreciate the impact on the weight of the system by adopting the PRO lens range. My first OM body was an original E-M5 with a 12-50 kit lens that weighed next to nothing. A lesson learned for the future, but it still grates on me that I didn't consider it when I made the switch.

@mikereilly4518 Год назад

@@huwalban Having just upgraded / transitioned to MFT from a newly acquired Nikon Z50 not believing how much weight I had saved just by doing the mirror less Z50 kit from my other DSLRs I found that I started thinking how much more could I save? I have a GM1 so anywhere between that and my Z50 was a ballpark. Then I realised for very similar weight I could actually have a pro camera and a pro lens setup all weather sealed etc so I opted for an EM1 MK III and as yourself a 12-100 but I was certainly gram monitoring to avoid your disappointment. The fear of damaging the gear in wet dusty conditions was probably my deciding factor. , Keep up the good work Huw, loving working through your back catalogue of videos :-)

@huwalban Год назад

@@mikereilly4518 Thank you Mike. You are very kind. I've recently taken a serious look at the Sigma fpL system which is also very light weight, especially when partnered with their Contemporary lens range. The kicker is that although the fpL body is weather sealed, the Contemporary lenses are not although I'm experimenting with a cheap-and-cheerful rain cover for those few occasions in the year where I'm likely to be out in the rain. It is all a journey - but good fun though :)

@hughjohns9110 2 года назад

I stopped watching when he moaned about the weight of the EM1 + 12-100 compared with his 5D + 24-70, conveniently forgetting the extra reach that lens gives him. No point listening to him any longer.

@huwalban 2 года назад

Not so. If you read my other responses you'll see that I've admitted that this did not hit me at the time. Sometimes you have to say these things out loud to have the obvious slap you in the face.

@hughjohns9110 2 года назад

@@huwalban no, sometimes you have to get your thoughts together and your facts straight before mouthing off. Beginners rely on what they see in these videos and you are not competent to make them, your error here is really basic. You should have taken the video down.

@johnmiller5717 2 года назад

No you are wrong about the weight. A em1 iii/12-100mm olympus is lighter than you canon with a 24-70 but you still need to add in a canon 70-200 and then what is the weight difference? Your being silly deceptive. You bought a new system so buy it and stop complaining. Use your curves button in manual, in other words learn your system.