Jack Mueller used this against both Spencer Lee and Sebastian Rivera, but bigger guys can do this move too, with Nevills of Penn State doing it against Olympic Champ Kyle Snyder
I love that you show that the high level guys are pulling this off. If this was just some rando instructional, I'd be skeptical to invest in learning this, because I'd suspect that it probably wouldn't work at higher levels. But the proof is in the pudding, and you show the pudding.
Thanks man that's good to hear. I like this format because when they see elite wrestlers doing the move and elite wrestlers being hit with the move it makes them more inclined to actually try it
Its cool watching your vids and actively recognizing these positions on my own now, today at Big 10 finals this was utilized by Aaron Nagao against RBY successfully multiple times in the 3rd period. Example of moves working against the greatest, ill have to keep this mat return in mind for my leg riders
@3:37 I’m getting the sense that initial leg ride buckle the knee before he initiates the actual trip. Look he kinda kicks the back of river as leg with his heel
In your opinion would this only work for lanky leg refiners like mueller or could it also work for shorter stockier guys with a zain retherford type of build?
Zain was an elite leg rider but I never saw him do this. I think shorter guys CAN do this move for sure, but it definitely helps to have longer legs depending on how far apart the bottom guy’s leg are from each other
I haven't seen this in decades...i knew a guy in college that could get near fall from a modification of this move...but i guess the technique is lost and forgotten!
I’ve never seen someone get hurt from this, but at the same time I haven’t seen this move done much. I’ll definitely tell kids in the practice room to practice it with caution or do it the way that the heavier guys did it
@@joshuahenderson5104 a foot has to stay on the mat. They made what you’re talking about illegal a few years ago because it was super sketch and people was getting their knees blown out
@@earnyourgold I'm good but why would you show an example of a match that a guy got completely dominated in against a guy who had no ACLs. If you want to be an authority why dont you do your homework. Are you ok?
If you want to earn a gold medal dont watch this channel. Lame. Anybody that doesn't kiss your ass is a troll? Maybe being an expert on basketball is more your speed.
@@brutledge3507 Because the clip was an example of a technique, and not an overall winning approach to a match? Just because a guy doesn't win a match doesn't mean there's nothing to take away from his performance. You're talking about homework, but I don't think you understood the assignment...
@@earnyourgold In order to get there generally both feet are going to leave the mat if only for a short period of time. I mean, it works, I just see it getting called even if one foot remains.
Problem is that if you do this move it is an illegal cut back in the NCAA so if you are wrestling in that division please do not do this! The officials are taught to look for this position and call it illegal. IF BOTH OFFENSIVE WRESTLER HAS HIS LEGS OFF THE MAT AND DOES THIS CUT BACK IT WILL BE CONSIDERD ILLEGAL! Remember that IF you bounce on one leg trying to get him to come back you will be on one foot for a split second every time you bounce so you are considered illegal....I don't agree with it...but that is what is taught 🤦
I checked with the head of the official association in Florida. Him and the red that sent it to him for me both said they’ll allow it. I was worried because I know they made a new cutback rule
@@earnyourgold Interesting, maybe it's a HS vs College thing? Every ref here in Wisconsin was very clear that leaving your feet on a return is going to be an illegal return.
