My son (high school) tells me ALL the time that the moves I’m suggesting won’t work, even though they worked for me repeatedly at the same level. He’s a heavier weight and I kept telling him to just try a simple bear hug straight to pin if he’s having trouble grabbing a leg or hitting a takedown. It was an argument for two months, until he tried it and pinned the dude in 30 seconds. Now it’s part of his arsenal as if he is the one who thought of it! But that’s all good. At that rate, maybe by the time he’s 35 he’ll be using all of the things I’ve been pushing for the past 10 years…
😂As a coach I definitely can feel your frustration. They admit that you know more about wrestling than they do yet they don't trust you when you try to tell them what moves to try out. My 220 FINALLY started doing double leg to a body lock at State last week and pinned his way to the Finals with it.
It's tough as a parent - your kids don't want to ignore you, but they're already listening to you about so many things in life, so in sports sometimes they hear it better from someone else (coach or whatever).
Dude you are breaking down real legit level wrestling footage and know what you are talking about ?! I love it! Its good insight, debate and talk. I liked, subscribed, and shared with a couple of my friends!
Yeah the element of surprise is definitely a key factor here. In HS, I would just wait for the guy to try to force the cradle and then escape really quick. I would've been caught off guard if someone tried to do a pancake against me
I have a wrestling tournament this upcoming weekend. I'm definitely going to have this move in my arsenal. Thanks for the information! Have a great day!
Gonna have to work on this with my son. He Problem with a guy who kept pushing his back against him. I was looking for something for him to defend that. Brilliant!
Thomas myer, this love is great but just a preference I’d work on getting an under hook first, same side as your head whichever it may be and when they are pushing let the pressure off and pull that undertook back and down while you head two them and get around the head in a north south half basically and if the wrestler is any good they will turn then you just have to thread your other arm get them in the Iowa cow catcher basically the moves work seemleesly if done right
@@ceciltuttle743 I have a 13 and a 10 yr old. This is their first year wrestling, and my oldest did well, but struggled against the kids who started younger and were more technical.
Agree. Sit-outs are an explosive off the whistle move. IF your momentum stops your in big trouble usually. The other factor that is getting these guys cought is, they are not keeping the far elbow tucked (one not posted on the mat) to the body as they rotate to their opposite hip. That's a key piece of technique in the series and def vs the pancake. Without the underhook, guys would just belly out or roll with it when they feel it coming.
The Seated Cow Catcher can always destroy a bad sit out. I lost the District Finals my senior year from this move. I was tied 2-2 with a minute left, guy couldn't handle my stand-up, so what did I do? Try to fake him out with a sit out. BONEHEAD! He hooked me under the arm and got a 3-point tilt. I escaped and lost 5-3. F'ing brilliant LOL ...
You never switch to your butt. You sit to your hip never stopping leaving the only defense to follow or reswitch. In other words you must execute properly or you leave openings for your opponent. I do like the pancake from a lazy switch however. You can pin anyone with a cradle too by the way, it's all about proper execution and drilling. Love the head lever and ball and chain always looking for the pin. The best defense is a great offense. I see the claw can be effective for control.
I used something similar in high school but waited for them to try and turn after their sit and spun the other way, instead of trying to follow behind, and finished it with a half nelson.
Nice video breakdown of this counter. Other commentators have pointed out the lazy sit out, switch, etc. Frankly, as a coach for some 30 years, I am a bit stunned that high level wrestlers are actually "sitting out". Was taught in college, and teach at my club, to bump back into opponent, with the butt leading (not leaning back with the shoulders). Also, in each of these video examples, the down guy turns out, towards the tight waist...... even with a bad sit out, isn't the rule of thumb to "sit out, turn IN, and stand up"?
That was a go to for me in HS and College. Haven't seen it much until this video. No hand control from the bottom man not much he can do to stop it except turn hard and belly down.
I'll definitely add those to the list. My first year really into wrestling was when Bo Nickal and Jason Nolf were freshmen at Penn State. I learned my double-over outside trip from Nickal and the throw-by from IMar after seeing his Finals match against Nolf. That takedown was so nasty
This move seems to be very similar to the finishing position of a Knee Cut in Jiujitsu when you have a far side underhook and a near side head block. Does anyone see what I mean / anything to add? Love this breakdown by the way
If he just catches that arm its a pin all day. Would have been a state champ with this move back in the day. So many people in my weight class used the switch from bottom.
I am a Jiu-Jitsu guy but fought a couple wrestler that came to class and they are so strong I still a beginner but my teammate said I am getting stronger
Just subscribed my son is starting his journey (8yr). And these will be some of the clips I'm showing him. This is the 3rd video u have watched good stuff. What is this koved called?
Thanks for watching and subscribing. I honestly have no idea what the move should be called. “Pancake from a sit-out/switch” I guess. I learned it from Ashnault and RBY does it a lot so someone may make the move after them if they’ll like
The heavy pressure is a big part of this. All of the wrestlers were putting heavy pressure on the back of their opponent. When you feel the guy on the bottom push back, then you just have to help him by getting out of the way and directing his momentum. Without that pressure, the guy on the bottom will feel it coming, and adjust.
The way we handled sit outs in peewee wrestling was to reach over the guy's shoulder and grab his chin, and then dump him on his back. I don't know how well that would work at this level of competition.
In 1987 I was a lousy wrestler. My cousin, who was all-state, taught me to switch. He said not to expose your back, always control the opponents’ wrap arm, smash it with the pivot side elbow and keep moving. I hit a great switch in my next match, but I was still a lousy wrestler.
@@6thmichcav262 the switch is a beast and it works great in MMA however it must be applied explosively and as a surprise because it puts you in such a vulnerable position momentarily much like the Granby
Bro my assistant coach showed me this move. We called it the upsetter because I beat so many kids my freshman year. You hit a army and whip over when they are in the sit out position.
I’m reposting it in a few hours. Had to leave work for a few hours to record, but noticed that there was some background noise in the video, so I have to redo it
This is such an easy move its crazy that it hasn't came out till now or at least been popular because it looks like a highly successful move and not a very highly skilled move
Bro this is a very nice move but these guys are the 2 and 2 seed in this tournament. There not even in the top 20 has wrestlers in the country. Not trying to be rude just think you got your information a little mixed up!! Great move thou
This wasn’t a tournament. This was from a dual meet between Rutgers and Princeton back in 2019. Kolodzik was currently ranked #1 in the country and his coach said that Ashnault wouldn’t score a single point on him
I new this back in 2000. They sit out, suck them back and ypu don't even have to get off to the side. College wrestlers aren't as good as they used to be. Matches used to be 2-1 or 1-0. Never saw such high scoring matches 10 to 20 years ago. Technical wrestlers aren't as prevalent as they used to be and those are the most competitive. Nobody should be getting pinned in college wrestling.
