I had no idea there was such a truck available. This was definitely cool to watch and learn about. Seems to make tree work not only more efficient but safer as well, and working with less crew members. Thank you, Stan. This was very cool!
Running a small tree business in northern WI this is what my 5 yr goal is, even if it’s a older style one. Have over doubled my business each year and hoping to put a piece like this into service. Great video showing how these work and the details Stan! Sincerely your polish brother from another mother.
First 5 comments not bad best yet I think this is number 4, thanks for the content Stan. here’s more support from Canada good luck with your endeavours
These things are really cool to watch in person. A local tree removal company has 3 of these. 2 of them are quad axles with a bigger than the one shown in this video.
Great video, thanks for sharing. That’s definitely a printing press for cash. Probably a little better than the vacuum trucks that are used for excavation of buried cables and pipes. A bit off subject but have you considered getting a Mudmixer for use up at your daughters homestead, might be nice for putting in a dropped floor for the green house.
it would be more space efficient with an ax19 or bigger chipper and chip truck... eat whole trees and that truck crane can literally set the end down on the chipper opening
really Nice tog. here at home we have saw to the jib that we put on when we need it and hook truck with crane. so we have one 20-30m3 container in the truck.
10 or so years ago i helped build a truck setup the same way. built off of a military M931 A2 6x6. amazing truck was about a year putting it all together with the 100ft crane and grapple saw prolly around 140-160k start to finish doing all our own fab work. but it turned tree work into a 2 man job and 90% of cuts were loaded right into a chipper its great to see it take off and not just be on logging equipment anymore.
@@Dirtmonkey I have one and it was about 1/3 that. Effer 225 gmt 040. I can send you some videos or pics. I’ve got about 600 trees over 3 years on the original 5 chains and 3 bars.
Billing this at $300/hr and paying an operator $20/hr to run it would take 25,000 hours to break even. That's 625 forty hour work weeks (12.01 years) to break even ...and that's not even adding the running and maintenance costs, insurance, or additional crew members. This machine sounds like a great way to go broke!
@@BradleyBellwether-oy2qi $1,000,000 divided by $300/hr = 3,333 hours. Not sure how you're doing your math. You also wouldn't include labor in your break even calculations as you're paying a laborer regardless if you have this truck or not. (and you're actually using less men on site if you have one of these, but that's besides the point)
@@sdy284I agree that I’m not sure about his math, but even if you just took the cost of the rig, you would have to run that truck 5 days a week 52 weeks a year for a year and a half just to recoup the initial investment of the truck…
Local tree co has one of those,only issue he has is access! But he did buy one of those spider lifts,he can drive it through a 36 in gate and i think it has a 100 ft bucket,he says that was a game changer over the truck!
Not only renting this thing out but also in the southern states. That truck could run 24/7. Not to mention storm clean up from hurricanes or tornadoes. I live just a few miles from Mayfield Kentucky where that tornado went through and something like this would’ve been invaluable. Awesome machine.
Stanley, front axle is NOW rated @ 30-40 thousand pounds- so NOW the truck chassis can handle more weight on the front, there by allowing manufactures to use SHORTER truck frames. (Palfinger) crane system for the crapple/saw system is the OTHER reason
Ur absolutely wrong, there is not a state in the country that will allow a 30 to 40 k steer axel. Hell you can't even get tires rated for any where near that. Tag axel are generally rated for 10 to 15k depending on state regulations. Front max is 20 to 22k.
Stan our tree company has been in business since the 50s big equipment big payments big headache I've seen alot of those companies come and go once the ash trees are gone those companies that don't caterer to small every day clients usually don't survive or struggle they need those large high volume to make payments
There is one of those in my area but even more impressive was a sennebogenn rubber tire excavator ( the green ones you see at metal recycling yards with the cab that raised up ) it had an extendable boom and grapple saw on it like that . I think it could reach 125 ft in any direction 360 degrees and load the chipper with what it had cut . They moved it on a lowbed but it was absolutely insane to watch the amount of work 1 guy could do with it from one spot then they had 3 guys running tri axle chip trucks . The guy told me at the tine it was only like the 2nd one in the USA this was about 5 years ago and i think he priced it at around 800 to a million also
They're a wicked bit of gear especially for roadside/production work! I've got a 126' grapplesaw crane & my mate owns a 718e which is the smallest Sennebogan at 22T which has 14m (47') of reach & the biggest version weighs 42t & has a 23m (76') of reach. The area the sennebogan comes into its own compared to the slewing K-boom crane is in the cycling time between cuts as it's basically a wheeled excavator base with a higher speed slewring & hydraulics so it can cycle through between cuts quicker 👌
@monaro-azz yeah I'm not positive on the exact reach and everything but I run everything from mini excavators to large excavators (cat 374 and bigger in city settings ) to rough terrain crane and stuff but that Dam sennebogen stopped me in my tracks and was mesmerizing to watch him cut and spin it right into the chipper
Stan I live about 12 mi away from palfinger and never knew they made that type of truck. Most of what you see pick up dumpsters I believe or have a hoist on the back for unloading truck. They started having White painted trucks there recently now I know why. Thank you.
My brother and his son do the work of that crew by them selves. Best in the business, and first in the metro with a tree mek. Hiawatha Tree out of Prior Lake!
There is another channel with one of these. It is the bigger truck style. That one tells the operator how much weight they are lifting and how many percent it is of max at that amount of boom extension.
I work with a tree service that has 2 of these now. They have a long dump truck they bring with and drop the whole tree into it as they cut em down. They haul me the wood and some weeks its hard to keep up with em cutting up firewood from them. Awesome trucks tho.
In a world of 100,000 pickup trucks sounds pricey but not too outrageous depending on operating costs 1.6 years at 40 hours a week to pay off. So probably starts making money in 5 years
That’s a neat operation. Only downside is they had to close the road and use the neighbors property. Something that would be a lot of trouble for me where I live.
@@NickSupe where I live, if you block the road, which they did at points, even though it was brief, you need a traffic control plan, detour signs, two floggers minimum and an alternate route for emergency vehicles…huge hassle
@@Dirtmonkey Wow, all these years, and I'm pretty sure this is the first time I ever got a response from a creator! lol Your great, love watching your videos. Keep killin it!
Agree...great video...just hope they get regular inspections on that boom because of all the joints involved so that nothing fails and someone gets hurt or worse....but that rig is the way to go nowadays
By the time they get that thing set up I could have had my sennebogen unloaded and tree on the ground. $300/hr is about right considering they would be billing for chip truck, chipper, and labor. Have to make $5000/day minimum running that rig.
300 an hr? million dollar truck... just the truck... Seems these dudes will work ther entire life just to finance that debt.... nevermind all the operational cost..? amazing machines.
The added costs to a business just in taxes for the purchase of new equipment in the northern states is staggering. I'm so glad we moved south years ago. The tax burdens up there have gotten out of control & getting worse. Y'all have created monstrous governments that just keep increasing the tax burden to keep them afloat.
Thats cool they are getting the right license even though arborists dont have to its the same way in my state but the arborists always get caught using their cranes for other things lol
I thought these ranged between 500k and 750k never seen one that hit a million thats kinda steep but. I guess when u can claim something as a tax right off it will all come back the next year.
Yeah, I'd say that range as well, I mean I just can't see $1,000,000 for a T880 tri-axle chassis (average 200k - 275k cost) and a simple knuckle boom crane, of course the custom attachments for the trees... but just say the chassis actually costed them 300k for some reason, even then, were talking 700k for a knuckle boom crane with a couple tree attachments... I doubt it.
Curious about the service life of this machine and how many years will it take to pay off this investment in full...plus replacement parts and maintenance, insurance, fuel, etc? This reminds me of the gold rush era...the guy that was making all the money was selling the shovels, pik axes and gold pans.
See my comment. 3,333.33 hours just to break even. If that $300 is BEFORE expenses, forget it! It's a nice machine, but you need to make triple that at least to make it worthwhile.Otherwise you're just in debt.
@@subvertedworld If it worked 8 hours a day, it would take 1.14 years. You can figure the machine will be engaged a good amount of the time. They also get (likely) a lot of their expenses under contract for any serious engagements. I'd imagine it could last at least ten years, with minimal maintenance need for the chainsaw chain blades. Regular maintenance will not be excessive. I expect they'll make buck on it for sure.
@@monkeybarmonkeyman10 years? You kidding! The truck itself gonna start breaking down in a year. +maintenance of the truck itself (oil, tires, sensors) and the maintenance of a boom is costly too. They better charge $1000/h to make any profit. I don’t believe they work 8h a day for 52 weeks. Much less than that.
@@Israel_alive_forever Well hydraulic systems are for the most part proven hardware. Sensors perhaps - but any engineer worth their wages building something like this at that $1M cost to buyer would likely ensure there is some strength in the system. It would be great if DM went back a year from now to 'see how things are going'.
That is really not a bad price for that truck as they will be making money with it. Now take a fire truck, my station ordered a new tower ladder last winter and should be here November 2024 as it just went on the line. Price of it is one million five hundred thousand dollars. All hand built including the fame.
@@thewhiteknight02The point still stands. Add the downtime of maintenance or smaller fixes, fuel, parts. We can go both ways, but in simple terms 3334 work hours will pay for it.
