News reports East coast bracing itself, let's just hope it not only stays offshore, but blows itself out. Got fingers crossed for you. Oh, yes if evacuation ordered get out, vids can wait.
This thing is a BEAST, but it's not for most people (because of the expense). But for the 5% of you that'll ball out on an engine like this, our hats are off to you👌 Plus, to get this much power in a package this small is pretty incredible.
I think you guys are missing the point.. if they wanted instant high HP numbers, yes, an LS swap would happen... I think it's more of a 'let's see what we can make out of this with our own fabrication and learn new skills doing it" kind of thing. Thats why I enjoy this channel.
Zoron Stillwater yep, that’s why it’s the most popular engine swap in the industry, right ? Guess what, prior to the ls, the go to motor was the smallblock chevy. But let me guess, you want some turbocharged 16 valve 4 holer to dump into your ma’s accord don’t you. Typical. Go enjoy your soy shake.
Who says you cant? That’s something different the internet hasn’t seen. Everyone has seen these predators and tilotson 212s built thousands of times and motorcycle motors in go karts. No one has seen a LS in a little go kart
I'm still learning small engines and 4 stroke theory, I gotta say that whiteboard session actually gave me a mental breakthrough on how this stuff works. Even in a small engine, changing ratios of separate operations can make a huge difference. It's so fascinating.
@@InsideOfMyOwnMind maybe a tach, dyno requires a computer, it'd be too big, but a small, dedicated predator dyno would be a cool project in its self!! with a sniffer for afr and exhaust collector, fan, etc.. one thing i want to see is universal, single cylinder fuel injection and solid state ignition.
A group of my friends and I had a race to see who could take these apart and put them together while blindfolded (teams of two with only one person blindfolded and the other guy in charge of hardwares) took about an hour. They’re great engines to buy if you want to learn how engines work
I know this is a old video but this is one of my favorite videos from you guys! I love y’all’s engine building videos. I’ve literally watched this video at least 30 times. You guys got me into building about 3 years ago and I love it. I gotta say I like ridding but for me the building is the best part. I love seeing how much you can squeeze outta these little engines. I hope I get to meet y’all the next time y’all are in Texas. I live like 15 min from go power sports and I’m in there all the time. Thanks guys keep up the awesome videos guys!!
I always use the same oil I'm using for the break in and never had a problem,plus I don't want that stuff floating around my moter ,but I'm also picky so.....great build guys.
I've just watched taladaga nights and the only thing I could think about was how much Ricky Bobby ( will Ferrell ) reminds me of Isaac 🤣🤣. No disrespect I love you guys
The compression ratio might depend on the length of the connecting rod and the height of the piston. I bet the stock piston don't go flush. That would be worth checking out of curiosity. Thanks for the video guys. I always look forward and click on first
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That's a freaking Beast of an engine💪 I wish I could get that much power out of my little scooter motor already did a BBK to it though and a race cam and race ignition larger carb bigger jet couple other things and a lot of CVT transmission tuning this thing is twice as fast accelerating as a stock 50cc now! And hits about 15mph higher top speed then stock I still can get a big valve large port head and I'm still running the stock exhaust on top of that🛵💨
@@otm646 mine is a 4 stroke a header and high flow muffler will help a bit only if I get the big valve big port head it's not like adding a good expansion pipe on a 2 stroke, but since I did not upgrade the head I'm running the stock small combustion chamber for the smaller piston bore and it actually increases the compression a bunch and I have to run the highest octane fuel I can right now or it detonates pretty bad.
The "waffle" ring is called an expander & the ridge cut into the top ring is called a ridge dodger ring for used bored with a lip on them.Use some USA made Total Seal rings gappless set with low radial tension oil ring like the 5.0 Fox body Mustang.Youll go faster .Trev New Zealand
The brass fittings you added the the valve cover need to be pointing up so oil can't drain down them when splashed Into them, you will end up losing lots of oil
nstrack1017 agreed. Two of those “breathers” are going to be completely useless as soon as oil gets into the line. These guys have good intentions, but lack of knowledge. Or the builds are just too fast and not thought out well.
@@mrpoopybutthole6314 so that makes you even more outrageous. All that money you could save and build a bad ass race car that you could track and drive on the street
Zac Hutson that’s the Direct drive class, my KZ shifter karts engine was $5,000. With rebuilds every race meeting. Yes it’s incredibly expensive but it’s also incredibly competitive and you have to have currant equipment tuned perfectly to win. Unfortunately the prices are set at what they are, I think theyre too high but what are we to do make our own engine?
Sorry to hear about your CT70 breakdown. I'm looking forward to seeing the video on that build! And...I finally got my C&C swag on its way! Pretty Excited! Lol! Keep it up and TRY NOT To change what you're doing on the channel! It's great just as it is. Low Tech, innovative, informative, Inspiring, funny, fun! Its great you aren't afraid to make mistakes on camera!
@@CarsandCameras well you're not wrong XD hey guess what im 14 years old and I just did a stage 3 hemi on my minibike and the thing hits 60mph now! id love to hear your opinion or any suggestions
@@ryan14r95 about $700 in parts for the engine and $100 for the engine itself, i could have got a pit bike engine or something but i wanted good low end torque. it is still running strong to this day, (maybe too strong) i’ve had my fun so i may take the parts back out or sell the engine for $700 or something and then go with stage 1 on all my engines.
I built an engine basically identical to this one for $700 before the carb. And that's not too bad especially if you enjoy tinkering. 20-25hp isn't bad either. Actually more, I have oversized valves with 60 lb valve springs. I live near VIR I'll try and beat what ever lap time they did.
@daniel bean I don't care. I am sure they figured the retail or discounted value that a customer would have to pay to replicate this build. If it personally didn't cost them a penny, so what. They make the videos for their fans and subscribers. Why make snide remarks about what they are doing? Watch and enjoy or don't watch. It is your choice. If you keep complaining I will send you some cheese to go along with your whine.
I bet the piston is a flat top because the combustion chamber in the head got smaller for a higher total compression ratio, keep high octane fuel in that piece or it's going to ping
roller rockers are for long travel of the rocker. The edge will slide across the spring cap when articulating that far. It's not for reduced friction to get power. it's for reduced friction for engine wear.
I built one. Absolutely rips. About 60 on a pretty standard cart. Did no head work. Buy a wiseco piston, my cheap flat top exploded and had to restart w a new block.
@@tebibyte2357 With ME installing it? YOU BET! (~_^)-b Hell! I can install a 500 CID Cadillac engine in a Honda! You might find the SEATING has to be changed a wee bit...but I can make it FIT... [HOP HOP HOP!] /)/) ( 'ˬ') @(>_ )-b \) \)
I don’t know what you guys are doing, but y’all need to get your crap together. This is the second time that you guys have ordered parts for the wrong engine and it is very irritating and makes y’all look stupid, so I’d appreciate it if you ordered the right parts for the right engine, thank you
If my own experience is any guide, it is very likely that they did order the correct Tillotson kit and the screw up lies with GPS. C&C are probably just taking the blame to cover up for their sponsor.
Brilliant. Go outside to clean so none the chemicals get on the garage floor. Time for a Safety Clean sponsorship. And the groove piston ring goes up? At ignition down stroke the ring catches and expands for maximum seal. Changing the rocker pivot point changes the stroke travel. Little longer travel means that little longer you get for intake and exhaust valve open time. More fuel in more boom. More exhaust out more room for boom. Lot less headache method over bigger valves modification. Hearing loss/damage is like radiation exposure. Not like scrape or cut that happens and heals. Hearing loss/damage stacks, and at the rate you guys are working it. About and 10-15 years the constant buzzing hiss will start. For those that have it bad and are being driven crazy by the sound of a train passing by 24/7. Operation for induced deftness only cure. FYI the sound that comes from compressed air being shot out a gun to clean away dust is the most damaging. Great episode would be getting a Db meter and seeing what every noise maker in the shop is doing. War story. Was stripping my boots with rubbing alcohol while sitting on a bench. Elbowed the bottle and it fell and I tried to catch it. Wiff miss and bottle lands flat on it's bottom geyser firing nasty straight up. Alone and no water source around while blind scare was enough. Caught the military at the end of work safety and environmental awareness. No Uncle Sam, cigarette butts do not make good hearing protection.
einar they can barely jet a four stroke bike motor to the point it makes any power and you think they’d be capable of not only jetting a two stroke sled motor properly...not to mention, if “go powersports” does not sell it, they seem incapable of clutching and helix setups on cvt drivetrains.
i'll personally pass on 2-strokes.. especially with that lumpy a 212 getting nasty at 10k rpm.. only thing i'd see about doing is a pumped oil system on that crank/conrod, maybe even go fuel-injection and see if that can really turn that engine to 11 on the power/size ratio..
That thing sounds bad to the bone!! What are your thoughts on the tillotson fuel injection? Have you used one and do you have a video? Be safe with the weather and God bless you both
$1500 for 20 something hp? Not trying to hate but damn that is an absolutely horrible deal. I understand they are into these specific type of engines etc but wow I just don't get how this is a good deal for anyone. So many more options with way more power at a comparable size and weight for way less money.
Dont forget to say that the gaps on the rings must be opposite to each other. Make a cut where the small shaft goes to let the oil in.Put some gas in the oil to remove the viscosity.
When looking at different length push rods and actually testing with a tech tool on the head on the lift and duration of the cam whether it be a stock cam or not. Changing the length of the push rod can and usually will change your lift to the valve as well as duration.. just a helpful tip. Actually checking the lift to valve with say 4 different length pushrods will tell you if you need shorter then stock or longer then stock to get where you need to be. Kinda hard for me to explain without showing or testing for yourself..
Spend $1500 on a motorcycle engine and you get a transmission and a lot more than 20hp plus actual reliably and longevity. The 99 dollar predator is a bargain but trying to turn it into a high performance power plant does not make sense.
I did the same thing with the head studs on a ford 302 with aluminum heads and that was going supercharged. I did the same thing you did. I pulled out one bolt at a time and installed the stud to full torque. motor has been running for 17 years
Hope ya'll are gonna be safe if this hurricane hits! I'm preparing for it myself, myrtle beach can't exactly hold all that much rain, haha. Love the channel, good luck and stay safe guys.
Beautiful build, nice work gentlemen. Love that flywheel. 👌🏼 if you get a modified head it also won’t match that head. I had to drill the dowel sleeve up to the Predator 11mm size and every head gasket I drill up as well.
I have been to VIR (Virginia international raceway) so many times since I was young with my grandfather, he’s a racing instructor, and we’d drive those go carts there so much, so as I’m stationed in japan I really hope you make a great video at vir and it can remind me of home a little
You guys Better hang on and Tie something down. I hope that hurricane goes the other way Stay Safe and dry. We all care about you guys. And Isaac that's why I like you guys you're not afraid to admit to making mistakes your only human like us. Keep teaching the younger generation that they too can do this. Faithful Subscriber from Southeast Missouri. Cars and Camera's Rule. BE SAFE GUYS!!!!!
Stay, safe and dry. Can we assume the place for Carsandcameras is still in the works? Since the new restrictions REALLY cramp your style. When do you hope to be in the new location?
I can’t wait to do that build on a go kart. I’m trying to build a go kart for ice fishing to pull sleds onto the ice and have fun rippin around the ice when the fishing is slow. I’m trying to decide if I wanna put tracks and skis or just stud some tires. I’m not sure what state you guys are in but it’d be cool to see you guys rip around some frozen lakes.
