Tillotson 225cc Big Valve Build | 9,000 RPM, 25HP Billet Maniac!

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The Tillotson 225cc high performance go kart or mini bike engine is already a powerful small engine, but in today's Honda clone build episode of CarsandCameras, we're installing billet parts and doing a ton of DIY head work to the Tillotson 225cc engine to take it from 15 horsepower stock to 25 horsepower. In fact, on Go Power Sports dyno, this engine makes over 30 horsepower running on methanol fuel. The parts list is long and very impressive- this engine build represents the cutting edge of widely available small engine performance parts. Thanks for Watching!
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Tillotson 225RS long block: bit.ly/38VCvzv
Billet side cover: bit.ly/3Nd3QSI
Billet rod: options available, call for your specific application
285 camshaft: bit.ly/3wYW5cs
Billet flywheel: bit.ly/3m3Xx8d
Dual 55lb valve springs: bit.ly/3zhe7cJ
Exhaust valve (25mm): bit.ly/3m5ze9Z
Intake valve (28.5mm): bit.ly/3wYTOOl
Titanium valve retainers: bit.ly/3PUkzfv
Racing coil: bit.ly/3x9rQk0
28mm flat slide carburetor: bit.ly/3oWSFRJ
Header: bit.ly/3x9R2Y0
Chromoly pushrods: call for availability + length
Gauge roller rockers: bit.ly/3m2W2XI
3/16” fuel line: bit.ly/32iAlNe
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Tillotson oil: bit.ly/3sRRgAk
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@CarsandCameras 2 года назад

I realized we built a big valve head, but we didn't share the valve specs! Stock is 27mm intake, 25mm exhaust, and we upgraded to stainless steel 28.5mm intake, and 25mm exhaust. Doesn't sound like much, but between the better design, larger intake valve, big cam, 1.3 ratio rockers, heavier valve springs, and lighter components, the valve train is WAY better than even a stock 225.

@gokarting1018 2 года назад

Y not 32 28mm valve head with a 308 cam

@bryduhbikeguy 2 года назад

Thanks for the update.

@zachariekelley 2 года назад

I just got an EC 228r wonder how it compares.

@DetroitMicroSound 2 года назад

The exhaust port on my DMP 70cc Puch E50, is 25mm.

@moto6ixmoto83 2 года назад

Still waiting for Tilloston to make a 225 with a dohc head.

@DriveBetter 2 года назад

The Ikerometer needs to be a T-shirt. At a previous job we had to observe ASTM testing methods. My boss Jerry would fudge the numbers and thus implemented JSTM testing. It all works.

@aaron7520 2 года назад

Eye-crometer

@leviwilder1205 2 года назад

@@aaron7520 it's a play on Ike's name! ike-rometer!

@buildaboiworkshop 2 года назад

@@leviwilder1205 woooosh....

@justinwatch 2 года назад

The eyecrometer has much closer tolerences than the Ikecrometer ever will do to aging optic faculties and the "Aw hell send it, it'll be fine" factor.

@GrooveyGrubworm 2 года назад

Big companies would like to know your bosses location

@dirtyd2316 2 года назад

I gotta admit that when Charles first got added to the team I thought it was gonna mess with the dynamic of your videos but I was dead wrong and think he is a great addition and brings a lot to the channel.

@keithschneidly3922 2 года назад

I thought Charles would add to the technical aspect of the channel and his experience is proving that out.

@robertevans9354 Год назад

Charles in charge big time

@GooseGosselin 2 года назад

You know it's a serious CarsandCameras build when the "click" is real. Awesome build, can't wait to see do a hotlap.

@spyder7758 2 года назад

You guys should go on more adventures, you always remind me of the original Top Gear cast, and their adventures were truely legendary! Thanks for all the great content

@EJ-74 2 года назад

I'd love to see them do 3 hot wheel builds and take them on a adventure with Grind Hard Rather B Welding etc etc. That would be EPIC 🔥

@timwilkinson2797 2 года назад

Great idea Spyder !!!!

@the900bot 2 года назад

I’ve been subscribed since freshman year of high school, maybe earlier. I’m 23 now and still enjoy every video like when I was younger. Always enjoy seeing a cars and camera video pop up! Especially lately, lots of cool projects going on

@EJ-74 2 года назад

Card and Cameras 😆🤣 sorry bro but that was funny 🤣 We all screw up some times lol ✌️

@countrylife5199 2 года назад

It would be nice to see more use of the already existing builds. It seems like it's just one project after another. It would be cool to see old builds revamped with your current skills and resources

@CarsandCameras 2 года назад

I agree. There are lots of builds that need finishing/tuning. Most of our energy has gone into building out the new shop (going on a month now), so our regular uploads have been less episodic. We're planning on getting back to finishing other builds soon. Thanks for the comment.

@countrylife5199 2 года назад

@@CarsandCameras looking forward to it !

@CLCIII 2 года назад

Nice thing with the methanol is it will definitely run cooler. More Power is a plus as well. Cooler And More Power - Mo Mo Betta!

@ChristopherIsIT 2 года назад

Ike, so much knowledge to give and so good at presenting it. Charles seems to really know his stuff, too, with the added levity. And John brings it all together. Great channel all around, fellas. I always look forward to another episode. Looking forward to some car build stuff. I get some of that from Ike's channel. Keep them coming!

@marksmithson1414 2 года назад

I just enjoy watching Isaac and Charles doing all the work. They work so well together.

@Sausketo 2 года назад

Thank you for the 2nd click, i was taught to always do 2 clicks when using a torque wrench; many times i do it and the nut moves just a little bit more before clicking the 2nd time

@brushybillroberts2654 2 года назад

Putting the lapping compound on the flywheel and crank, is known as, "lapping them together." This is done on gears, slides on 1911 model pistols. We did it a lot when building inspection gages in order to obtain very close fitting parts.

@keithschneidly3922 2 года назад

Hand fitting. The lapping seems to add to longevity as well if fitted areas are kept clean and lubed properly.

@budddove6480 2 года назад

Using the compound is to ensure a good tapered fit when you decide to remove the timing key completely. The timing key is just that, a timing key. Its not what holds the flywheel in place, its used to line up timing. Myself as well as many others remove these keys completely when advancing timing. The taper on the crank is what holds the flywheel in place. We just use the compound as seen here to make that tapered fit even stronger since we remove the key. FYI, advancing a quarter width of the key is around 7 degrees advanced.

@Nocturnal5841 2 года назад

been waiting for this all week work is a pain in the ass and watching y'all makes the week a little bit better

@davidnance9678 2 года назад

hello great job on all your builds , my name is david and i raced karts for many YEARS dureing the Days of the FLATHEAD , i ran in the Open modifyed class on a 1/4 mile Dirt/clay high banked track and both of you guys know how much RAW fun that can be FUN ! i allways loved them small engines thats why i enjoy your show ANYWAY the kart racers have went to the OHV engines now my day was them briggs opens with the stroker cranks , larger valves alot of porting we even had our own cam grinder ! so we tryed everything our best carbs were the tilltsons alky carbs like the HL-355 souping up the engines was alot of fun and a heck of alot of fun too we had a kind of team with a main engine man who did all the cam profiles and the machine work and fixjures for that work there was him and his son and i did the driveing we could not have done as well as we did without the main engine guy his name was "ThePossom" yes we are rednecks alabama yup you'all know rednecks run dirt ha ha you all keep putting out the good content DBN

@sonnybrooks264 2 года назад

You can use an offset key in the key way to advance the timing, two fuel pumps, methanol fuel, bore the block 0.030 over.

@jeffrykopis5468 2 года назад

Does the offset key just change the ignition timing, or the cam timing?

@silverbell800 2 года назад

@@jeffrykopis5468 ignition timing

@miguelarmando2991 2 года назад

I would love to see you guys do a video on how not to build an engine with the worst parts you can find and the worst technique, maybe a competition to see who can fry an engine first

@twiztedmowers2 2 года назад

Rtv wars coming I can see it.

@FordGTmaniac 2 года назад

The easiest way to destroy a small engine like this is to turn it into a race engine but cheap out by using the stock cast connecting rod, which will be thrown right through the side of the block at sustained high revs.

@jason3044 2 года назад

I always heard you gap exaust a little more than intake because exhaust valve gets hotter and metal expands more and the intake gets cooled off by fresh air fuel

@JVScustoms 2 года назад

Man this is my favorite kind of video from you guys!!! You guys have no idea how much y’all have inspired me. Just did my first big build on a predator 224, tires out pretty nice if I do say so myself. Thank you guys!! Y’all are awesome!!!

@1AMERICANWORKER 2 года назад

It is amazing how far the technology has gone since the mid-eighties when we ran modified Briggs flatheads. We started by boring the block .100" and popping the valve seats out for the big Horstman setup. The crank was the stock 5hp Briggs that was balanced between two electromagnets from security doors from an office that was being renovated. Horstman ground their cams from welded up stock blanks so we had to work with a smaller base circle. I would take stock lifters and lengthen them with weld and hand grinding to make it work. The piston and rod were from Horstman, the intake port was actually ground through at the bend and built back up with JB weld and re-ground. The head was "decked" with sandpaper on a broken piece of headstone donated by the local monument co. The carburetor was a Tillotson with a secondary pump powered by the crankcase pulse. At Flemington, I was able to turn 9400rpm. I have to look, I may still have that engine in the shed.

@keithschneidly3922 2 года назад

A guy named Horstman traded me a 2hp Briggs engine for a DellOrto racing carb. I put it on a 4.5 horse Tecumseh and ran methanol Heet (available at the time over 50 years ago) along with Wynn's nitro additive. I straightened the "S" intake manifold also. That Kat mini bike would stretch your arms out and held up to the fuel too!

@TheMapleDaily 2 года назад

I am so ready for that next video ! I suddenly jumped into gokarts recently due to being gifted a old Manco White Fox 2 451-391 that I am replacing the B&S 5hp for a 212 predator and new tires, replacing a bent tie rod end on the steering, and a new seat and she should be ready to rip!

@xpndblhero5170 2 года назад

29:58 - *crushes scouter* "IT'S OVER 9000¡!" 😠 🤣🤣

@CarsandCameras 2 года назад

This engine is a monster! What should we put it on first?

@robmanueb. 2 года назад

The Ruckus!

@manks5491 2 года назад

the yard dart!!

@magstrikefjerstad3192 2 года назад

Ruckus!

@traviskeeton6313 2 года назад

Put it on the mtd minibike

@DriveBetter 2 года назад

Just for kicks, the smallest real car in the fleet?

@jamesmcgee9279 2 года назад

Nice engine! Looking forward to the first rip on whatever you throw it on.

@glendecuir6317 2 года назад

Man I'm not getting notifications. This video says 13 hours ago, and no notification on my end found it while browsing. Long-time subscriber check all my bells and whistles, what's up. Peace out guys keep on rolling🇺🇲🇺🇲

@Philc231 2 года назад

I’m not getting notifications either . Wonder if RU-vid is messin with the boys .

@zacharywarren939 2 года назад

Hey cars and cameras love the content keep up the great work

@CheapBikeOwner 2 года назад

I’m gonna be honest as soon as I clicked on the RU-vid app your video popped up and all I saw was big cam and without hesitation I clicked on it lol

@hensleyshobbies-doug7761 2 года назад

Man that thing sounds wicked! Can’t wait to see that on something and going, around the course or track or whatever! Get er did boys, get er did!!!

@doughubble2816 Год назад

Ike. I really enjoy it when you guys build these engines. You Ike have a great way of explaining why and how these things are done thanks guys.

@Nitewatch-xc9yz 2 года назад

Incredible build guys,, can’t wait to see the go fast goodies for the 459

@jacobphelps5096 2 года назад

just to think that I've been watching from your first video y'all have come so far from a garage to your own is just insane congrats .Jacob

@jameswarren423 2 года назад

That is one good looking motor you guys built ! I think it’s going to be a real beast can’t wait to see what you stick it in ,and what it will do ! great video guys and great work!👍🏼🤩💪🏼

@darploin5071 2 года назад

The last time you filmed you guys changing vowel guide rods eyebrods and vowel guides was in John's father's Garage and I remember it was quite a loud ordeal. Have an excellent day

@NN1Ckl. 2 года назад

I'd love to see you guys collaborate with the "Robot Cantina" channel! Ya'll would like his Predator powered Honda Insight project.

@kcraig51 2 года назад

You're right about not lapping valves. There needs to be a 1 degree difference between valve head and seat. This difference goes away at temperature because the valve head gets way hotter than the seat, therefore different expansion. You really need a PCV to keep the crankcase under vacuum. This reduces oil leaks and helps keep the crank motion from pushing all the oil to the sides of the case.

@Lynn-ww7lh 2 года назад

Love the videos man can't wait for more bangers

@frankgeimer5952 2 года назад

Great vlog Guys! Keep them coming!

@joebufford2972 2 года назад

roller rockers on a small engine I love it!

@eugenesbackyardrepair4593 2 года назад

I love the billet parts and thT awesome orange/red lines a dedicated subscriber sent you 😁

@kgol4686 Год назад

I like Ike he seems to be the only one on cars cameras that knows how to wrench on engines the other guys a dork but shout out to u Ike keep wrenching why the other stays your cheerleader 😆

@rephlexc 2 года назад

Great educational video. Thanks guys.

@alexpaumen3937 2 года назад

I really wish people would take note of builds like this and put these engines in Power Wheels vehicles so their kids could zip around.

@peterchristlieb Год назад

I just test fired a Predator Ghost tonight and had the throttle do that, kinda figured it would so I put the front wheel up against a wall before pulling the cord. The 7/8 throttle kits need a thread or two cut off the cable sheath or the pressed on end pulled off and about 1/8 - 3/16 of the sheath cut back or the internal cable is too short for the Mikuni, Chikuni and WalBro carbs. Pain in the ass. Finishing up a 236 Tillotson with a Billet head, need to cut the pushrods to length and check the rocker arm sweep. Might post a Video on my little channel. Love you guys 👍🏼

@toddhebert5215 2 года назад

Love you guys. im a kart mechanic at a kart rental place were now runnin tillys because of you guys and gopowersports. Tip for takin the valve cover baffle out... Hit it with an air gun 100psi through the hose to the air box it pops right out. And flys about 30 feet lol

@larrydavidson3402 2 года назад

Looking forward to see this installed on the cart.

@Robert-ni6ut 2 года назад

Great video glad to see another engine build 👍 .

@humpday2267 2 года назад

I usually freeze my parts overnight if possible. That way I know they’re cold as they can be but good video regardless.

@shark11175 2 года назад

Y'all are the best, so informative! Would love to see this motor on a Mini Bike!!

@MonkeyMikeOutdoors 2 года назад

Fn beautiful! Such a monster

@bobmanzi7712 2 года назад

great stuff guys thanks

@Kingjulian- 2 года назад

i love these builds do more plz love the vids.

@lilbobbycustoms2331 2 года назад

Great video guys

@kennethdispain1807 2 года назад

Can't wait to see that one run

@bobadam7021 2 года назад

You guys should look into check valves and exhaust scavenging for PCV.. The exhaust gasses vacuum out the crank case gasses and it's good for more horsepower. 5-8 hp on a 355 oval track motor.

@tonycurtis6898 2 года назад

Awesome!!!!

@rungerungeanator9447 2 года назад

Needed this

@tristanmcnabb2741 2 года назад

The motor should be a power house 🏠 for sure 😊👌 cool stuff allsome work guys from cruzermans inventions 😁🎉👍

@edwardweisenburg16 2 года назад

Awesome 👍😎

@emmardalisay3390 Год назад

Wow nice setup the engine I like that my friend

@drgti16v 2 года назад

Great build fellas.

@murrayminimotors1674 2 года назад

Looks badass 😎!!

@pollyg562 2 года назад

im just looking forward to seeing what the boys put this monster in, maybe the scooter/moped from last week,

@phonymontana4254 2 месяца назад

Looks like a beast 💨

@Billrovid 2 года назад

You guys have a great sponsor. They seam pretty good to y’all

@joelslone67 2 года назад

These build are what I like to see

@mulld 2 года назад

You guys need to build a jig onto a workbench for doing cylinder heads. I have one with a piece of stainless with a big hole drilled in the center for the tool to go up through. Then a small wooden catch basket right on the front edge to put all the small pieces valves guides keepers etc. Saves me tons of time and headache and only took me a couple hours to build

@clemcon501 2 года назад

I love the longer videos especially engine builds

@bensymington5550 2 года назад

Love the engine rebuilt that’s awesome you go cars in camera

@bensymington5550 2 года назад

Motor looks bad ass👍❤️

@oldirtyguru7004 2 года назад

Damn 1 mill subs?? I remember watching this channel when I was in middle school around 2013 give or take an you guys had like 20k subs and I thought that was a lot

@MikMech 2 года назад

36:10 *John* - The 'Viva Frei' of the Cart World, with Stronger Hands.

@mikemelchiorre7414 2 года назад

John , I see that your Dishwasher is around the corner from your sink . I used to deliver and install D/W 's . The Water needs to be real hot to do a good Job , So I recommend that you fill and drain it Several times to get actual Hot water to enter the D/W , The Energy requirements eliminated the Long duration internal water heaters long ago , until the water is Steaming , the machine will only do a sub standard job . Proof to me was my friend in an apartment over the massive water heater , doing a great job with the cheapest model Hotpoint , Mine being a high end Kitchen aid and I needing to run water hot , at the sink and then the fill drain trick .

@pongping1378 2 года назад

Seen red beard build a ghost great little engine keep up the content 👍

@LukeTheJoker 2 года назад

Looking forward to the shootout!

@nikkogives4883 2 года назад

I’m early yay I love you videos you guys inspired me to buy a go kart and work on it 😃 have a nice day and I have bin sub for 2 years now

@trevorhalford8410 2 года назад

CHAWWW BRUH.... I got my pop-sickle and I'm ready to watch this HOT video and hopefully get inspired.

@Gear_Banger Год назад

When checking the push rod length, you can also color the tip of the valves with a sharpie and instal the rockers try then rotate the engine a few times and when you take them off you can see where the rockers are sitting.

@BloodredBR 2 года назад

Little trick I use when installing retainers and keepers with that style of tool is to put everything on top of the stem then lay a ziplok bag over everything. After that use the tool to compress the spring. The bag will keep everything in place

@frankensteincreations4740 2 года назад

Sharpie the valve tips will leave a nice whiteness mark for pushrod length. Also most important part of new valve spring is seating the locks. Always smack the valves with a soft mallet to seat the locks. You guys need to build a engine run stand by now… All these engines built over the years… take a spare engine plate weld it to some steel with rubber pad feet and boom. No more chasing them across the concrete on plywood lol

@ThaVoodoo1 2 года назад

Ike is your master small engine assembler!.

@thehemiolds455 2 года назад

9k rpm’s 😳holy molly sweet👍😎🤙

@twocvbloke 2 года назад

oooo, seeing the output shaft spinning away there and Isaac's shoelaces jiggling about near it, I had thoughts of those things getting wrapped round that at speed and acting like a cheesewire on his feet, best have him tuck them into his shoes when working that close, just so we don't have him in the hospital again....... :S

@reitzy69 2 года назад

Instead of running any kind of zinc additive...could always run rotella 15w40 or 5w40 diesel oil. It's loaded with high zinc

@SabastianU 2 года назад

It's been a lot of fun watching y'all progress over the last few years to, at times, almost seeming like you actually know what you're talking about (teasing). I know I.C.E. motor's aren't going anywhere anytime soon, but I wonder how long until you guys do a project with an electric power train?

@The_Adventure_guild 2 года назад

Methanol makes torque boys you will like it!!

@nickbrett8642 Год назад

Awesome.God bless everyone.

@lostsocketgarage330 2 года назад

Love the ducarti and all the builds, do another motorcycle engine on a gocart like a Honda 1200 that would be awesome

@HighDefBNG 2 года назад

Thanks Uncle Issac!

@mattseddo94 2 года назад

please make a drift kart and put this in it, would be prefect

@davisphillips7792 2 года назад

Can’t wait to see what you guys put this in. I’m pretty sure you guys know where there’s an airport handy. Maybe instead of pump gas, you should use some 100 octane aviation fuel!

@jasonwhite8722 2 года назад

Methanol you will want bigger jets in the carb and more spark timing advancement. Which on the old Briggs engines was achieved with offset flywheel keys

@neonnerd1364 2 года назад

I can't wait to see this engine on something.

@darploin5071 2 года назад

I love Isaac's petrol I/V. bottle

@mrromantimothy 2 года назад

looking at that window seems like you need some lawn Care I'll come over and pull those weeds for you. lol

@StpBeingPoor 2 года назад

For those breather hoses look at using a vent to atmosphere baffled catch can. The more the crankcase can breath freely the better and it will also lower oil temps.

@guyhaydu364 Год назад

also you need to have the appropriate crush on main bearings so they dont spin, .003-.005 roughly definitely do your home work tho. on polishing the intake you want a desired 800 lubricated grit finish for correct atomization of stoichiometric ratio. i learned the hard way when i was a kid. you guys are doing great! keep it up.

@Chris-cq5dy 2 года назад

Great show gyes ✌

@nickvanwhatt 2 года назад

I always get the feeling like yal always behind the scenes bickering about who's right

@michaeltaylor7122 2 года назад

You guys should work with arc racing and do a 5hp Briggs flat head build!

@mrchips303 2 года назад

Type 1 Eyemomiter says, yup, 10 thou.

@muddinco7289 2 года назад

Okay carsandcameras on the valve lapping compound on the flywheel your half way right if your buying a aftermarket flywheel it could be off a little bit and the tappers not match because sometimes they use a different machine in the factorys or somthing i dont know but what i do know that you do that only because not all flywheels arent perfect for each motor and it could cause unstable movement and destroy your internals or break your flywheel off

@Philc231 2 года назад

Old shop , nice to see a bit of a retro build . Only thing better would be dad’s garage . Then rippin up dad’s lawn and pissin off the neighbors .😃😃