Really things like the flood , xenomorphs , arachnids would be shrugged off by the Imperial guard "Oh look more giant space bugs, well at least they ain't tyranids"
I think the flood could get toe to toe with the tyranids. But it really depends of the stage they both are in first contact and the amounts of biomass each one controls. And if flood can asimilate tyranid biomass and-or vice versa. It's a really tough debate XD
''M'lord, I fear we have encountered a new strain of Tyranid mutations. They died easily enough though, only half a platoon was destroyed before they got the thing. Kinda looked like a Lictor, only with 2 arms, a longer tail and a little mouth inside their mouth.... quite comical.'' ''Good, carry on, there might be more.'' ''Aye, M'lord.''
@@vladimirdragonov since the Xenomorphs are already in a state where a normal human kan kill them (with the right equipment), I don't think that sending in the Deathwatch would be necessary, though it might happen.
@@vladimirdragonov then imagine flood combat forms made from assimilated astartes, or goddamn orks. And the flood can assimilate knowledge and technology too, even A.I. at some point if they get enough biomass. Plus, the Flood supercell can be airborne. Would be one hell of a crossover tho XD
"Everything is almost comically OP" Well originally wasn't supposed to be serious. It was mostly a parody of sci fi hiked up to 11, and at end day more about having a Chuckle at how insane it was. Than Someone decided it needs to take itself seriously. So now everything is dark and overly serious, but they kept the insane numbers. Just remember, there was an Inquisitior with the name obi wan Sherlock something I can't remember.
40K has a long history of laughing at itself even as it functions as a satire of oppressive systems of government and governmental incompetence. Indeed, it still does those things, the humour has just grown more subtle over the years, and mostly focuses on how ridiculously poorly governed the Imperium is, with the Adeptus Administratum forgetting about the existence of entire solar systems for a thousand years, and sending reinforcements to fight in wars that ended, one way or the other, generations before the soldiers being deployed were even born. The whole over the top Grimdark aesthetic of 40K is one big joke if you have a twisted enough sense of humour to appreciate it.
@@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954 trust I still laugh. But some people don't seem to realize that just how comically bad the IoM is ran. Dear God, if you dear point out these weakness when comparing universes, they will retort how it isn't really like that and how good the the IoM is able to actually run stuff. Even if the fact that whole point is that they can't run it well as they did.
@@joshuawilliams9020 That is Poe's Law in action for you - no matter how explicit a group like GW tries to make their satire, there will always be some people who take it completely seriously. Just look at the prominence of obnoxious memes out there that depict Donald Trump as the God Emperor; those aren't made by people mocking Trump's ego, but by actual Trump supporters who see him in that light and are 40K fans. You wouldn't think anyone would want to depict their political idol as comparable to someone as ruthless and genocidally violent as the Emperor is in the 40K fiction, but these people cannot read for satire at all - they see the Emperor as the champion of humanity, ignoring everything else the fiction tells us about him, and that is the image they want to project for their political leader of choice. It is that straight forward and uncritical. It is rather frightening when you come to think of it
@@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954 lol the whole main point of the god emperor trump meme is to pretend to take it seriously in order to get reactions out of all you dumbasses who cant stop screaming trump=nazi 24/7... You took it hook line and sinker.... To quote The god emperor trump: Low iQ individual...
Don't forget that the Imperial Guard also has SLY MARBO. AHHHHHHHH!!!!!! The Catachans by themselves could take on any other army on this list. Just to survive they need to become expert warriors and survivalists. Though seriously when it comes to combined arms operations the Guard are way ahead of most of these other armies. Most objectives I saw the Clones attack the Guard would have pulverized with artillery long before sending in the infantry. They also have an excellent variety, and quantity, of support weapons that most of these other armies neglect such as heavy crew-served machine guns anti-armor cannons missile launchers and mortars. The previous video listed the lack of standardization as a weakness, but most of the time it is a strength as it means the Imperium can select units well suited to each mission from siege specialists like the Death Korps of Krieg to cold weather troops like the Valhallans and of course for jungle fighting they've got a horde of overly-muscled red bandana sporting their own Commisar killing madmen from Catachan.
In combine arms I put the colonial Marines as better. They actually don't have to beg someone ( imperial navy) for aircraft. Heck each every platoon should have two super Sonic missiles trucks assign to them. And the m292 is actually better than the Earthshaker in every department. By a sizable amount too. Really as long as guard send likes only double or triple the numbers, my money is on the colonial Marines winning. Because of superior combine arms assets and doctrine.
@@joshuawilliams9020 my dude unless you got some good sources to back is up the m292 only has a range advantage and a small caliber advantage which is debatable as I am willing to bet in terms of munitions quality it's chalk and cheese given 40K scale difference in terms of sheer fucking absurd toughness over the Basilisk and it's earthshaker cannon as for begging the imperial navy for aid guess the US Marines and Army have to beg the air force to do their jobs on bended knee to that's shity logic and you know it, add to that in terms of combined arms tactics the guard have specialists in every possible tactic in buckets can bring entire mechanised armies packing more heat than the colonial marines can on a squad to squad level never mind at the regimental level with troops that in other universes are the elite commandos and that's not counting the guards own special forces branches I don't think you quite understand the scale difference between the two sides here nor the quality of combatant difference in raw terms real world terms every imperial guardsman is basically a special forces operative and I mean that literally as the pdf is a planets marine corps, army, navy, Air Force etc the ones that get deployed into the wider galaxy are the best of the best from the pdf given additional training.
@@michaelkeha The colonial Marines technical manual is my source of m292. 30 kilometers to the Earthshaker 15, 152mm to 132mm Earthshaker, 6 rounds in ten seconds vs the manual reload rate of maybe 6 per minute. And IG doesn't operate any aircraft, only PDFs are imperial navy do. So if they need air support, they better hope the navy is willing to help, meanwhile the colonial Marines Operate their own air core and each platoon gets two drop ships and Two APCs. Meanwhile the IG need to hope that there another regiment nearby, are they aren't getting any kind of support. And IG aren't spec level trained... Except a few ( cadians and catachans mainly), the majority are giving nato level training. Most PDF are taught how hold fortifications. During the sieges of vraks, the Imperial high command was shock that the local PDF knew how to perform mechanized assualts.
There are only 2 Million Colonial Marines Most of them have never fought any Alien, Predator, Android or other Human before I like to see these CMs handle a Sanctioned Psyker or an Ogryn Squad or a Company of Scions!!!
@@christiandauz3742 air support is hella of powerful, and if the enemy don't see the shot coming, than their dead all the same( speaking of sniper rifle with 2900 m range).
"Sir we have reports of a million clone troopers heading to our location sir." "Oh thank the Emperor, I thought we were going to have to face a tyranid." "Sir we only have twenty guardsman left." "Today is a good day to fight and die for the Emperor."
The metallic marauding might of the bombastic boys in mustard bringing mechanised mayhem to murder,maul and bombard you into the next millennia hailing from Armageddon would disagree with you
As an Imperial Guard commander I have watched your series on the imperial guard with a lot of interest. I did notice that you have focused on the sheer numbers and mostly the trench warfare that the guard were known for. However, this is not the only tactic that the guard have. Yes, numbers are the strength that the guard have. Now, instead of the trench warfare imagine how effective the guard would be as an assault force. This I can tell you is very effective. With vehicles such as the Valkyrie, your force becomes highly mobile and allows for your units to become fast attack. Often times denying armies that usually gain bonuses (in game mechanics) to their strength. I demonstrated this many times in game after game after game on the table top. The speed of an Imperial guard assault army (in game mechanics again) leaves opponents being caught off guard and throws the tried and true tactics of fighting guard completely useless as they have to quickly adapt. I stand behind the all female force of the Amazonian LXIX and the 77th Penal Legion so long as their pink cameo scheme stands out on the field of battle. May the Emperor protect you. Also, I have to say you have a wonderful grasp on the Orks. During a model build day at our local hobby shop, we decided to build some rather Orky buildings. Gathering a few bits and bobs I built an Ork teleporta. complete with gretchin singed mark on the base of the teleporta. the back story, was that the Warboss told his Wyrdboyz he wanted something that would take him from where he was standing and move him to someplace else on the battle field. The Wyrdboyz accepted the challenge begged for 24 hours for them to be able to come up with something and lo and behold they did it. The War boss asked to see it and asked how it worked. The Wyrd boyz said "Turn these knobs, flip these switches, then press this button and bamn you are half way across the battle field. Not happy with the response the Warboss asked again, How does it work. Finally the Wyrdboyz admitted they didn't know that it was a toaster the day before.
Uh, Abhumans aren't the same thing as Mutants, they are stable human subspecies that came about due to natural or artificial adaptation in the tens of millennium humanity had been traveling the stars.
there are 2 kinds of mutants in 40k, natural/artificial and warp-touched; abhumans are the former kind; mutation is just when genes get changed, like blue eyes in humans are a mutation since everyone used to only have brown ones; felinids are abhumans but i think beastfolk, like those satyr-looking ones, are warp-touched
@@djcuevas1057 30% of what a regular lasgun hits with is still enough to flash incinerate interal organs, muscles, tissues and bone so they explode violently. granted thats on full power. but still, thats going to hurt someone, has to count for something!
@@djcuevas1057 Imperial Guard Problem Solving: if a Platoon of Guardsmen shooting it doesn't work the first time, add grenades, heavy weapons and a liberal dose of harsh language, if problem persists, Deploy Armour. Not much can stand up to a Leman Russ! it is pretty dumb to compare an infantryman's rifle to a battle tank's main weapon, they're two entirely different weapons! probably better to compare and contrast with a Lascannon instead, that's atleast in the same weight class!
Again, this video has a rating of mainly 5's. The Inquisition is pleased. If the IG do not win overall, we must declare Exterminatus on Generation Films. The Emperor Protects.
Top advantage of the imperial guard - which you touched on a lil bit with the ratlings and ogryns - is the multitude of different types of people billions of worlds yields. From Tallarn Desert Raiders to Valhallan Ice Warriors, there's a regiment for whatever job you might have. Jungle? Catachans. Toxic world? Death Corps. Rapid movement and airpower? Elysians. Suicide mission? Penal battalion. Miracle workers? Tanith First and Only.
I think something that wasn't mentioned about the Cadians continuing to fight after their planet got cracked in half was THAT they were still fighting AS their planet was being destroyed. As in they were still on the planet fighting the enemy while the ground below them broke open and the entire planet was destroyed.
Of course the Orks are deadlier than the covenant. Remember we’re talking about Warhammer 40K where intergalactic demons traveling through alternate dimensions is commonplace.
Imperial guard morale advantages: A god that definitely exists because he actually walked among them once upon a time, and summary execution for cowardice at the hands of the commissars if they break. Might as well die fighting because you're sure as hell not going to live to run away in that army.
We may lose many, but to gain an inch of dirt, is a victory the enemy can not afford, we are the commissar and any kill and any roar of battle is a victory you carry forward into every aspect of war. We never fear, nor break from any line without clear reason, we will forward our sights, our objectives are clear, and our will devout. Let those xenos of all kinds shapes and sizes feel the burn of light from the very star from holy Terra.
Belief in the emperor and your friendly neighborhood commissar has a Bolter aimed at your head keeps the guard in the fight long after the other space marines are done.
IG generally cannot do an exterminatus, others and the equipment they have do that. I like the IG but their infantry are frequently seen as canon fodder. Some commissars are loved, some feared, and some may even be both-but often they are there to execute people on the spot for morale purposes.
The morale of the Imperial Guard is a fair point - they are perpetually fighting multiple adversaries any one of which would be a galaxy ending threat in pretty much any other remotely normal sci fi setting. Whatever they might encounter, they have already seen something far, far worse before. That is an easy factor to underestimate, but what threat from outside the 40K continuity could really panic or terrify Guard veterans? When you have fought adversaries like literal murder daemons and the last word in swarms of killer bugs, you are going to be rather hard to rattle.
Welcome to the Imperial Guard, where numbers are our greatest advantage: We will overwhelm enemies with enough flashlight fires. If this doesn't work, we will drown enemies with flesh and block enemies by acting as sandbags. If enough of us pray hard enough, we may summon a Living Saint.
The imperial guard have access to: Lasguns = better than any other scifi universe laser gun but still shit in 40k Orbital bombardment Power weapons = lightsabres with aoe effects. Servitors = terminators Psykers = basically mages Spaceships Mildly mutated humans (orgyns) All of the above x a million for just one small regiment. And they still are capable of losing in their universe.
Uhm, guys. I need help. An entire armada of Orkz have been following all week long and they don't seem to attacking me due to the fact that i accidentally obliterated a Chaos Titan right in front of them while also accidentally killing their Warboss when he was caught in the explosive range. Is this a good thing or a bad thing?
Have the tabletop Imperial Army and the xeno Tau army. The guardsmen with their flashlights and their paper armor just get f*cked into pieces as soon their tank support is out. But you have a major problem against the guardsmen, when they are played by a talented commander. Than they just overrun everything. Instead of tyranids. My brother plays them and he also found out how to do it effectively, so ... it's just a massacre.
What you called the worst xeno threat is literally the same as the flood, and that got so bad in halo that the forerunners had to wipe out all sentient life in the galaxy.
Blake Gill The sad part is that wiping out all sentient life wouldn't bother the Nids much, it's all just biomass from the strongest warriors to the bacteria that lives in the soil.
Warhammer is so exaggerated that it maybe doesn't belong on the list. It's like a hypothetical war scenario where a child walks in and says he's defeating the Roman legion with ninja alien bears that ride psychic pirate dragons.
At the end of the day, though he's been ferried through hell on a ship that's ten thousand years old to some godforsaken, war-torn rock; though he deployed from high orbit with nothing but a grav chute; though he is one of ten million men and women snatched from his homeworld to fight a war he barely understands; though he has been given a weapon that fires small suns and may annihilate him as he fires because the knowledge of how it functions has been lost; though his company is supported by tractor-tanks that run on anything you can burn; though he wages war against a devouring hivemind, ravenous demons and hordes of hyper-advanced aliens with strange technologies and sorceries he never dreamed existed; no one will remember his sacrifice, there will be no records of his deeds, no glorious parades in his honor, and no remembrance of his name. All he will earn is a shallow, unmarked grave on a forgotten world untold lightyears from home. Yet for all this thankless sacrifice a Guardsman is a man, just like you. He has no millennia-old genetic engineering, no prophetic leader, no miracles of faith. He has his lasgun, his orders, and those beside him. He is the Imperial Guard. And he will hold the line.
The scale of Warhammer 40, 000 is over the top, but probably not realistic. The scale of inter-galactic war in a galaxy the size of Star Wars, Star Trek, Halo, Starship Troopers or 40k would be in reality truly epic. Billions of Guardsmen in a series of battles for just one planet. Tens of billions in a war for a system or hundreds of billions for many systems. Just look at a Space Marine chapter. Supposedly 1,000 marines on average, but given the conflicts they fight, this is too small a number. 4,000 to 5,000 would be more effective. Two thousand on the home world for defence and about two thousand on deployment, half of which would provide vehicles, artillery and air power. There would also need a large number of neophytes in training and being initiated.
It says something about the Death Korps, whom on many occasions have shot their commissars for cowardice, when a commissar is your voice of reason. Or as they would put it, a coward not willing to do a bayonet charge on a chaos titan. Once, when told to hold back the troops, a Krieg officer said that his men should be out there. Literally saying that every shell intercepted by his men, was a shell that wouldn’t hit one of the tanks.... if I didn’t know better, I would say that the iron legion must use krieg as a recruitment planet...
@@jesperohlrich7090 I remember reading somewhere that the commissar casualties in the death Korps are so high because the commissars are feeling like they have to show the guardsmen who has the biggest balls here. and then they die because of that.
