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10 Affirming Arguments for Same-Sex Unions: A Biblical Response 

Sean McDowell
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Jesus never talked about same-sex relationships. Paul was only condemning exploitative relationships, not consensual ones. These are the kinds of arguments made in favor of same-sex relationships. Rebecca McLaughlin and I analyze these arguments and associated biblical passages, one by one to uncover, what the Bible really says about the top 10 affirming arguments.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:43 Chapter 1 of her book
6:25 Why can't the Bible be "inclusive"
11:11 Christians should just focus on God's love
15:16 Jesus was silent on Same Sex relationships
19:17 God's Judgment on Sodom
23:20 We can't follow Old Testament rules
28:35 Paul condemns certain Same Sex relationships
34:29 Paul condemns lust not Same Sex relationships
39:02 Homosexual in the Bible was misinterpreted
43:23 Bible condemns slavery not Same Sex behavior
49:19 Unchosen celibacy yields bad fruit
58:21 God of love can't be against relationships of love
1:02:38 Advice to Christians with Same Sex Attraction
1:07:30 Ending Message

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@andyalford7487
@andyalford7487 27 дней назад
2nd Timothy 4:3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, We are definitely there.
@haroldmsimmons
@haroldmsimmons 14 дней назад
And it's going to get worse. Lord Jesus come quickly!
@terrybain828
@terrybain828 21 день назад
People who are same-sex attracted are not the only ones that may be deprived from having a sex life. I have been a widow for 4 years, and before that, my husband was not capable of having sexual relations for many years. God is gracious and has helped me remain sexually moral. When we are committed to Him, he will help us honour Him by remaining sexually pure no matter what our sexual orientation is.
@sharonyoung8251
@sharonyoung8251 14 дней назад
This is right on. I’ve been widowed for 20 years and living without sex I had to make the choice often. Sex outside marriage with the opposite sex is a struggle for many as well.
@sharonyoung8251
@sharonyoung8251 14 дней назад
I am learning much from this discussion. Thank you.
@sharonyoung8251
@sharonyoung8251 14 дней назад
I am so encouraged that many churches today are focusing on “life groups” as the community part of the organized church. As I have been widowed 20 years, I am so thankful for the ladies in my life group. We have a deep love for one another and walk this journey together. Community is so important and only in small groups can those relationships grow.
@nlavigne92292
@nlavigne92292 День назад
It is not just about sex. It's about love... the same love that you had with your husband. I can’t believe that an all good all loving god that made me in his image and made me this way would tell me to not love.
@johnpacino007
@johnpacino007 27 дней назад
The Bible stated it’s an abomination. Plain & simple!
@not-normal771
@not-normal771 27 дней назад
Bingo!
@abnerasturias6380
@abnerasturias6380 27 дней назад
Well, the Lord GOD Jesus issssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss called PRINCE OF PEACE (Isaiah 9:6) but --- the Bible quotes HIM saying, “Do you think that I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I tell you, but division.” (Luke 12:51) … Also, “But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in heaven. 34Do not assume that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.…” (Matthew 10:33-35) ………………………………………………………………………. CONTEXT... CONTEXT ... CONTEXTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ...........................
@abnerasturias6380
@abnerasturias6380 27 дней назад
Well, the Lord GOD Jesus issssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss called PRINCE OF PEACE (Isaiah 9:6) but --- the Bible quotes HIM saying, “Do you think that I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I tell you, but division.” (Luke 12:51) … Also, “But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in heaven. 34Do not assume that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.…” (Matthew 10:33-35) ………………………………………………………………………. CONTEXT... CONTEXT ... CONTEXTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ............................
@thatoneguy9473
@thatoneguy9473 26 дней назад
But you have to be able to go deeper to be able to communicate and evangelize these people.
@not-normal771
@not-normal771 26 дней назад
@@thatoneguy9473 Reprobates are on their own. They made their choice. Also, (John 6:44) No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. In other words, it's not our responsibility to evangelize. The ones who are meant to know Him, will have the opportunity when the Lord wills it.
@dmsonline515
@dmsonline515 26 дней назад
Remember, judgement day is coming! No matter how we justify sin, condone sin, word-twist the scriptures, homosexuality is sin.
@luciferbeelzebub7168
@luciferbeelzebub7168 24 дня назад
prove judgement day is real and coming
@dmsonline515
@dmsonline515 24 дня назад
@@luciferbeelzebub7168 IT IS WRITTEN...REVELATIONS 20:13 "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. REVELATIONS 20:15 "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
@NickGagnon942
@NickGagnon942 22 дня назад
Nope. Nothing wrong with homosexuality at all.
@RaiderWolf-yd6nm
@RaiderWolf-yd6nm 22 дня назад
@@NickGagnon942 _Nope. Nothing wrong with homosexuality at all._ Neither denial or subjective personal feelings, such as your comment there, ever negates that which is being denied. So, to the contrary, very much wrong with it.
@williamdodds1394
@williamdodds1394 19 дней назад
@@luciferbeelzebub7168 And your boss Lucifer is first fruits then the rest will join him in the lake.
@jetmanjayjay4604
@jetmanjayjay4604 21 день назад
In 1997, while living at 5412 berks street in Philadelphia with my elder sister, one day I left the apartment on foot to a dollar store to buy two meatball platters with spaghetti that the store sold for a dollar. I went into the dollar store and made the purchase. As I was done paying for the things I bought, I headed for the exit door. On my way to the exit door, a white lady was ahead of me to the exit door who had likewise purchased some items from the store. As I headed home on foot, she was going in my direction and in front. Suddenly, she dropped a small black wallet but kept on walking not realizing the wallet was not with her. People walking on the street were coming from behind and in front of us. Having realized this, I felt that if I walked over the wallet, the next person behind or in front coming my way that happens to see the wallet, could pick it up and decide not to return it to the rightful owner. Furthermore, I thought that if she got home and realized the wallet was not with her, she would be distraught depending on the content of the wallet. So I picked up the wallet and ran after her, yelling mam, mam. She turned around and I handed the wallet to her saying, “Mam you dropped this”. After collecting the wallet from me, she asked me a question by saying, “Who taught you how to do this? I said to her “JESUS CHRIST”. Then she said, “Thank you”, turned around, and went her way. As soon as she turned around and kept walking, a strong wind like a tornado came down from heaven and encircled me where I stood, and while in the midst of the whirlwind, it felt like someone was giving me the hug of a lifetime with tremendous peace. The peace was indescribable. Words would do it no justice. The wind was not destructive in nature but strong and gentle. People walking by did not realize what was happening because it was spiritual and only visible to me that day. Enveloped by the whirlwind, I felt like staying there forever because it felt glorious, so peaceful and full of such love indescribable that it was mind blowing as it happened. Next, the glorious Father from the excellent glory spoke out of the whirlwind with these words, “I AM WELL PLEASED BECAUSE YOU GLORIFIED MY SON JESUS CHRIST”. As soon as God the Father spoke out of the whirlwind these words, He instantly filled my heart with indescribable joy. The whirlwind remained with me for about 16 to 17 seconds after I heard those words with the arms of the Father in the whirlwind wrapped around me and then gently it dissipated from the scene and went up to heaven. This happened in broad daylight between the hours of 10 a.m. and 11a.m near city line avenue in Philadelphia. After this supernatural experience in a physical reality called time, I have never doubted the truth of the existence of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost as clearly presented in the Holy Scriptures.
@hanachang1
@hanachang1 17 дней назад
Praise God! He is a very personal God to each one of us!!!
@josknwg9173
@josknwg9173 16 дней назад
What an amazing encounter beloved 😊 To God be all the glory . Have learnt how to glorify JESUS. Blessings dear . Joseph from uganda 🇺🇬 east africa.
@aerogers4117
@aerogers4117 26 дней назад
I am Christian, female, heterosexual, 66 yrs old, never married (not my choice) and thus celibate and alone. So as far as people who say they can’t live without sex, yes you can. As far as the church, the body of Christ, my experience is that they unfortunately tend to ignore single, never married, childless adults; presumably because of lack of common life experiences.
@melodysledgister2468
@melodysledgister2468 26 дней назад
Times are changing. There are more singles now than ever before. I am sad for the younger generations. Marriage has fallen out of favor. More people are single by choice, and subsequently not by choice, than ever before, it seems.
@qujo777
@qujo777 26 дней назад
At least Paul definitely affirms your position ;)
@JedidjahSlagter
@JedidjahSlagter 26 дней назад
You will be able to have a complete and fulfilled life
@ReneWrinkle767
@ReneWrinkle767 26 дней назад
Great comment. You’re exactly right. Thanks for sharing
@Ellenkay-re6qg
@Ellenkay-re6qg 26 дней назад
it's often a bit easier for women than for men, although I realize not everyone is wired the same; Estrogen can cause issues but testosterone is a very strong factor in libido and of course, culturally it's less frowned upon for men to be randy than it is for women. I'm not excusing men for sleeping around at all in this, just pointing out the biological differences in motivation concerning sex. On the non-sexual aspect,, I feel sorry for men in the sense of they are not culturally allowed to be very physically affectionate with other people. Some men do hug but in general, it's more frowned upon for men to be affectionate the same way women are expected or at least allowed, to be. The culture looks upon men that are affectionate either as a wimp or a pervert for being as affectionate as the average woman is. Now, that said, testosterone may factor in here (biological and cultural both) and cause many men not to really need all of the compassionate affection that women do (and especially needing to cry on someone's shoulder). But emotionally, I honestly think a lot of men who turn to drugs and alcohol are really needing to be held and genuinely loved. It can't heal all wounds but it's a normal human need. Human beings need human touch (it's been proven medically) but separating the lines between innocent vs sexual affection have been blurred and confused (at least in our culture/society). I'm not sure what the solution for this is. I can tell you that many married men would have a problem asking their wife "I need to be held". If you need to be held, you need to be held. But I get men aren't comfortable asking anyone, even their wives. Prayers for all men on this issue!! Ladies, please try and understand.
@brucemcqueen5395
@brucemcqueen5395 24 дня назад
You cannot simply focus on the love of God, because allowing people to believe that they are right when they are still in their sins is not showing God's love.
@justifiedbyfaith6511
@justifiedbyfaith6511 14 дней назад
Exactly.
@perfect12386
@perfect12386 17 дней назад
Before I was a Christian I was incredibly lonely. I was letting men use my body. Now that I'm a Christian, I've never felt more loved and never had so much love to give out. I would never go back to my life before Christ. What I have now is so much more.
@drmichaelshea
@drmichaelshea 27 дней назад
No. I’ve read the bible twice in the past year and saw nothing affirming homosexual behavior. Not a single phrase.
@nzivkovich3993
@nzivkovich3993 27 дней назад
That's right. We do know who loves to pervert the Holy Word of God, the little god of this world. Holding the hands with the devil while saying they walk with Holy God of the Bible, is still abomination to Him.
@metapolitikgedanken612
@metapolitikgedanken612 26 дней назад
@@nzivkovich3993 Just make sure you know what "Word of God" means.... Hint IT IS NOT the bible. And it is silly by fundies to continue insisting that it is. You are however correct that the bible doesn't have one positive thing to say about homosexuality. The LGBT crowd will however go on and twist words and meanings to make it appear to people that it does.
@melodysledgister2468
@melodysledgister2468 26 дней назад
I’ve read it through twice too. Most people who affirm the Bible affirms homosexuality have never read it.
@adamruuth5562
@adamruuth5562 26 дней назад
To be fair, when teh bible was written they didn't know better than to be bigots.
@metapolitikgedanken612
@metapolitikgedanken612 26 дней назад
@@adamruuth5562 "when teh bible was written they didn't know better than to be bigots" Now that's a very bigoted statement.
@dawnricherson2604
@dawnricherson2604 27 дней назад
No. It is an abomination to the Lord because it perverts God’s will for marriage: one man and one woman. Period.
@tipmel750
@tipmel750 26 дней назад
Thanks Sean, great interview. Sad that so many people comment when clearly they haven't watched
@elizabethryan2217
@elizabethryan2217 24 дня назад
I think there are bots on the prowl ..
@ChalkboardCreativeHomeschool
@ChalkboardCreativeHomeschool 20 дней назад
I watched the interview and other interviews that he has had with Biola University and find the platforming of Side B Christians extremely concerning.
@prattacaster
@prattacaster 17 дней назад
Well, I already know all the answers to everything. 😝
@brennakohlhase4194
@brennakohlhase4194 27 дней назад
Your comment on loneliness is spot on and the church is guilty of catering to married folks and often makes marriage the ultimate goal when it is never stated as such in the Bible, more the opposite is true-you are free to minister when single without any ties or distractions. Also marriage/“soul mate” mentality as idolatry is a rampant problem in our modern society. We will kneel alone before Jesus someday to give our account and there will be no spouses in heaven. He is to be our “soul mate” plain and simple.
@robertj5208
@robertj5208 27 дней назад
Gives me much to think about regarding the mission of our church, and myself personally.
@Terry-de5xn
@Terry-de5xn 26 дней назад
I agree Brenna. The church's attitude toward single people has cause me to stay away from church bc there is no place for me there and I am always being viewed as incomplete and my views are not valid bc I do not have a complete life expirience. It can be very painful and alienating but thankfully Jesus more that fills the gap.
@brennakohlhase4194
@brennakohlhase4194 23 дня назад
@@Terry-de5xn I’m so sorry you have experienced that…If Paul were alive today he’d be seeking out people like you to go where no one has gone before and those who have had a marriage experience with the Lamb before they get to heaven. Be brave-Terry!
@stephenm8233
@stephenm8233 27 дней назад
No… The question in of itself is absurd.
@ar2851
@ar2851 27 дней назад
Exactly
@daughteroftheking02
@daughteroftheking02 27 дней назад
In this day and age, with the way many churches are addressing this issue, this is needed more than ever!
@eugenetswong
@eugenetswong 27 дней назад
Yes. Thank you. It's frustrating to see people act as if the question is still open. By acting as if we are not satisfied on an intellectual level, we can act as if the issue is still open. That's not God's will.
@OrangeMonkey2112
@OrangeMonkey2112 27 дней назад
Exactly
@RationalistMH
@RationalistMH 27 дней назад
And he went over this issue like a THOUSAND times by now. Unfortunately, it seems Evangelicals just love controversy for its own sake.
@elsacooper1769
@elsacooper1769 27 дней назад
The title should read : 'A biblical response to 10 affirming arguments...' There is not enough room in the set formatting for the full title. The wording of the title unfortunately gives the wrong impression to people who don't take the time to look properly. Before commenting that someone is a heretic at least do your due diligence: read the full description, and and listen properly all the way through. Thank you to Sean for you excellent, faith-building interviews, and having the honesty and care to deal with uncomfortable topics.
@brettwheeler7753
@brettwheeler7753 27 дней назад
It's only uncomfortable to those who practice and TRY to justify their sinful behavior .
@abnerasturias6380
@abnerasturias6380 27 дней назад
Well, the Lord GOD Jesus issssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss called PRINCE OF PEACE (Isaiah 9:6) but --- the Bible quotes HIM saying, “Do you think that I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I tell you, but division.” (Luke 12:51) … Also, “But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in heaven. 34Do not assume that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.…” (Matthew 10:33-35) ………………………………………………………………………. CONTEXT... CONTEXT ... CONTEXTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ............................
@MrEmeralddog
@MrEmeralddog 27 дней назад
Fix the title Sean please!!
@andrewwoode
@andrewwoode 26 дней назад
​@abnerasturias6380 Due to the offense of the gospel, that is way Jesus said that. It would divide household because of who is their master. But He is the prince of peace indeed. The world finds no peace with Him, but He is the utmost perfect peace to us
@abnerasturias6380
@abnerasturias6380 26 дней назад
@@andrewwoode Thank you for Lecturing to the Choir !!! ................... But --- the POINTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT is, Homosexual Relationships BY and IN ITSELF is NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT Prohibited in the Bible !!! ........................ UNDERSTAND ???
@g-man3847
@g-man3847 23 дня назад
“Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” (Deut. 4:2.)
@marssionary
@marssionary 26 дней назад
If we are ordering church where single Chrisitans are lonely, we are utterly failing. AMEN!!!! YES!!!!
@jasonguillou6813
@jasonguillou6813 26 дней назад
Watch the whole video before commenting. Merely a suggestion! 😎
@drsusieg
@drsusieg 27 дней назад
This should be a very short vlog. According to Romans, it's a certain NO.
@SeanMcDowell
@SeanMcDowell 27 дней назад
I agree but there’s a lot of challenges today that we need to respond to-hence the video!
@robertj5208
@robertj5208 27 дней назад
I have 4 pages of notes and have ordered the book. Brilliant discussion!
@ivandgr8224
@ivandgr8224 27 дней назад
The Bible, being the infallible word of God, cannot change. Jesus is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, so He loves thevsinner and not the sin. Trying to justify that this very wrong act is permissible in today's world is itself blasphemy. You may have studiedthe Bible through and through but if you do not obey what God says and manipulate it to please your carnal desires as well as influence others and encourage to indulge in this abominable act is itself a sin. Obviously the devil will dilute the Word of God. Next, you will be saying the abortion and adultery is allowed as per the Bible for the modern times. Telling that it is offensive and hateful not to allow same-sex lust is blaming those true believers who have also studied the Bible, but more importantly been blessed by the Holy Spirit to know the undiluted, unabridged and unfiltered truth. God is love but God hates sin!@@SeanMcDowell
@cindyseverson2917
@cindyseverson2917 26 дней назад
In the end time people will not beable to stand around doctrine. They will go to hear what their itchy ears want to hear. We are all sinners and a sin is a sin to God, we are to love the sinner, as we ourselves are sinners saved by grace. We are also to be in the world!, not of the world. What the world says is right and okay now days, is not Biblical.
@joannetompkins7833
@joannetompkins7833 24 дня назад
@@ivandgr8224 have you watched the video?? They are not affirming it at all. They are giving biblical responses to common arguments claiming that homosexuality is fine.
@tgleo1
@tgleo1 26 дней назад
Rebecca speaks with such astounding clarity! This is an amazing hour. Thank you both!
@IrishFuryan
@IrishFuryan 27 дней назад
87 statements in the Bible says no
@jondavidsenn5012
@jondavidsenn5012 25 дней назад
I’m not challenging you, but I would personally love to see the references to all 87. Seems like a good resource to have and I’m not that studied on the subject
@jetmanjayjay4604
@jetmanjayjay4604 21 день назад
Thank you Sean McDowell and Rebecca McLaughlin for this interview that I see is clearly a call to true faith in Christ alone. God bless you
@godschild2432
@godschild2432 27 дней назад
One of the best if not the best guest you have had….she speak with such wisdom, obedience to Gods Word and self denial..amen
@robertj5208
@robertj5208 27 дней назад
Amen!!!!
@HJJTsai
@HJJTsai 25 дней назад
my church celebrates single, when one is single, s/he is not tied to worldly obligations, s/he can simply be a more devoted Christian and given everything to God.
@catfurbiehat
@catfurbiehat 24 дня назад
I read the title and didn’t know where this was going to go but I’m glad I stuck it out, thank you Rebecca for equipping us properly with how to counter these common same sex claims. Really well explained points that all direct us to Christ.
@joevasanu7459
@joevasanu7459 27 дней назад
Dr. McLaughlin, thank you for the glorification you give to God. Your words start with issues involving same sex, but as I listened to you, the work of the Holy Spirit in you to go so far beyond the outward topic spoke so clearly to the whole Gospel of how Jesus’ love for us transcends all for all of us sinners. You are a true sister in Christ. Love to you-Peace be with you
@saral6978
@saral6978 25 дней назад
What a powerful ending. Rebecca has truly been gifted with Godly wisdom. Thank you for this interview, Sean! I will be for sure getting her book!
@kathycasey9521
@kathycasey9521 26 дней назад
Thanks for this great episode. It’s helpful to have responses to the objections people bring up about this.
@karenpeterson5780
@karenpeterson5780 26 дней назад
Excellent interview. Thank you both so much! I'm going to go and buy the book now too!
@monr457
@monr457 27 дней назад
Same sex relationship should be a NO especially in marriage
@monr457
@monr457 27 дней назад
Shellfish law is cultural, same sex law is universal
@deankirkpatrick7658
@deankirkpatrick7658 25 дней назад
@@monr457 in satan's world - but not in the LOVING GOD's
@ADxtraIsHere
@ADxtraIsHere 24 дня назад
@@deankirkpatrick7658 How would that be "Satan's world"?
@monr457
@monr457 22 дня назад
@@deankirkpatrick7658 thats a deceiving statement. An all accepting God is not a loving God. Truth is love and love is truth. Denial of truth is a sin and not loving
@roadkill6705
@roadkill6705 25 дней назад
Powerful. lovely testimony Dr. McLaughlin. Thank you.
@RonMo54
@RonMo54 22 дня назад
As a dad with a daughter in a same sex relationship this discussion is helping me with my own journey and understanding of what scripture is actually saying. Thank you!
@aaaaaaaa9189
@aaaaaaaa9189 22 дня назад
do you care more about your ideology or your kid?
@terrymah1143
@terrymah1143 21 день назад
Great interview. Very informative. Helps me in understanding.Thank you both.
@SpanishwithNeena
@SpanishwithNeena 22 дня назад
Excellent conversation! Thank you, Sean and Rebecca.
@olgaplatt9221
@olgaplatt9221 25 дней назад
Thank you for briging theses relevant topics and great authors.
@beaneater2152
@beaneater2152 26 дней назад
Wow. I had never heard of Dr. McLaughlin before. I have not heard this topic discussed this charitably, intelligently, clearly, and indeed pastorally ever before. May we all follow Dr. McLaughlin in holding Jesus as our highest treasure!
@user-lt5pc9be9z
@user-lt5pc9be9z 24 дня назад
This was THE BEST use of an hour. It was so full of good answers, but more than anything, it convinced me anew of Jesus’ great love for me. Thank you, Sean, for this platform.
@clementchou7995
@clementchou7995 27 дней назад
Thanks Sean. Great work as always... would love to watch another interview with Rachel Gilson! So grateful to both her and Rebecca for both of their work and ministry, genuine but always grounded in scripture and backed up by sound reasoning!
@Josh.Proctor
@Josh.Proctor 21 день назад
The last one felt easy to refute, at least in my own mind. That God's love can't be against relationships of love. Because there are lots of things and people we can love. We can love false idols, even turn people into idols, spouse, children, family, friends. But just because you love something or someone so much, even if it feels genuine and intense and makes you feel good, does not mean it's a permissible love. Scripture even specifically talks about loving two masters, or loving God and mammon. Loving something or someone is not a free for all. If it's the sort of love that falls outside of God's intended purpose for love, then He very clearly condemns it, and we see evidence of this throughout scripture.
@jeffb6979
@jeffb6979 26 дней назад
Great episode.. very informative on this very difficult topic.
@RaiderWolf-yd6nm
@RaiderWolf-yd6nm 24 дня назад
About shellfish, it's curious that no one makes the same argument against the prohibition to stealing or lying that they do to homosexuality. They cherry pick the part about shellfish and mixed fabrics. So by their logic, because we allow shellfish and mixed fabrics, we shoudl also allow stealing and lying and the "m" word that's the extremely sensitive powers that be won't let people say.
@paulajames6149
@paulajames6149 26 дней назад
Love Rebecca’s perspective. Such wisdom and maturity. Thank you!!!
@brettwheeler7753
@brettwheeler7753 27 дней назад
God loves sinners, as we are all sinners, but God despises sinful behavior! We don't get a free pass just for "believing" in Christ! Even Satan believes in Christ. "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God." 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Sweetheart, you don't get to "interpret" God's TRUTH! And drop the "I was born this way" BS. Diabetics don't get to eat a ton of sugar because they were born that way! BTW, there is NOT a "gay gene".
@steelhurricane4041
@steelhurricane4041 26 дней назад
They enjoy their sin, and will try and twist the truth of God's Holy Word. Shameful.
@o.ronquillo
@o.ronquillo 26 дней назад
@@steelhurricane4041 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. And that is what some of you were. were is the key
@steelhurricane4041
@steelhurricane4041 26 дней назад
​@@o.ronquilloyes, I agree. The old man crucified with Christ and the new man alive in Christ.
@anthonycarbone3826
@anthonycarbone3826 27 дней назад
Love is a very vague term, I would say there is a vast difference between saying I love a woman, love a dog, love chocolate cake, love a book, love a movie, and finally love a favorite piece of furniture. If I have sex with my favorite book then having sex with it is not a proper proof of any real love for that item. It is not the emotion that is in question, it is the action towards that object where the problem lays. There are actions that are normal and still bestow a certain shade of love and there are actions that totally have nothing to do with a real definition of love. Sex can be done between people that love each other, and between people that have no emotional relationship.
@eugenetswong
@eugenetswong 27 дней назад
God says to love our enemies, and he clearly agapes his enemies, so to speak about love in the context of tolerating homosexual marriage is quite inappropriate. [edit: my comment isn't a response to you; it's something unrelated that should be factored into this whole issue]
@anthonycarbone3826
@anthonycarbone3826 27 дней назад
@@eugenetswong I have never heard the term agape before. Learn something new everyday. I thought at first it was a spelling mistake and had to look it up.
@eugenetswong
@eugenetswong 27 дней назад
@@anthonycarbone3826 No kidding. Tell me about it. The RU-vid comment section schools me every day. It gets frustrating. 😀
@brettwheeler7753
@brettwheeler7753 27 дней назад
@Anthonycarbone3826 Yeah, it's all Greek to me! 😂
@bree_nicole
@bree_nicole 27 дней назад
@@brettwheeler7753😂I see what you did there!
@shellybulla8089
@shellybulla8089 21 день назад
Most of these comments are from people that didn’t listen all the way through. I highly recommend her book if you are trying to counsel anyone in a same sex relationship. She plainly says homosexual relationships are sin as are any sexual relationships outside of a marriage between one man and one woman.
@sherrypeck4062
@sherrypeck4062 26 дней назад
Excellent conversation.
@JasonDBennett
@JasonDBennett 26 дней назад
I admire Rebecca for her thoughtful responses to these claims. This is a very helpful interview. Thanks, y'all.
@Allen-L-Canada
@Allen-L-Canada 26 дней назад
Sean, could you do a time stamp on this kind of long videos, so we can select the sections to watch?
@dianamatthews5965
@dianamatthews5965 26 дней назад
I've learned very much from your interview. Thank you!
@midimusicforever
@midimusicforever 27 дней назад
This is a very important video in our day and age.
@foreveryoungnz
@foreveryoungnz 26 дней назад
I subscribe to a lot on RU-vid but yours is the best Sean! This one was outstanding, and not just because of the same sex discussion. Lots of pearls of wisdom for everyday Christian life. It was great. I admire Rebecca. All the best to her, my sister
@thetruthtrumpsallliesfromt4399
@thetruthtrumpsallliesfromt4399 27 дней назад
Why should we be offended if we are sinners? Shouldn’t we be humbled knowing that pride does not make our sins go away? I abhor people using semantics to justify sin of any kind, mines included.
@garfieldrobinson7837
@garfieldrobinson7837 23 дня назад
This was a blessing. Wonderful presentation.
@felipediazvlog
@felipediazvlog 19 дней назад
This is very helpful. Thanks!
@not-normal771
@not-normal771 27 дней назад
(Leviticus 18:22) Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
@learningwithlolli2214
@learningwithlolli2214 24 дня назад
Absolutely phenomenal interview. Thank you.
@sharbean
@sharbean 23 дня назад
Remarkably helpful and beautiful information
@MicheMoffatt
@MicheMoffatt 26 дней назад
Thank you for such an amazing video, and such a great presentation. I think the approach of exegetically coming to scripture and not going for imposing an eisegesis is imperative…… I really appreciate the video - thank you for sharing your own story as well, Rebecca xxx
@pamelaalphonso6292
@pamelaalphonso6292 11 дней назад
Thanks Sean! I thoroughly enjoyed the conversation as it's helpful in our understanding from God's word. Blessings xo
@Dirk80241
@Dirk80241 15 дней назад
Rebecca speaks truth. At 8:20: nobody is ultimately owned by their desires. Every person who wants to follow Jesus receives the two-fold call to repent and to believe. This is so true, and this is the right answer to the ‘inclusive’ argument. It is your and my responsibility to respond to any temptation to sin (including same sex attraction) by relying on Jesus and denying ourselves, and obey him.
@jennygump813h2
@jennygump813h2 16 дней назад
Well said! Glad this information is out there
@ChalkboardCreativeHomeschool
@ChalkboardCreativeHomeschool 20 дней назад
@seanmcdowell What is your hope in platforming Side B Christians like Rebecca and Presto. N Sprinkle? How would you and Rebecca responded to 1 Corinthians 10:13? Can a person be regenerate by holding onto an identity that does not align with scripture?
@maryannblair9784
@maryannblair9784 27 дней назад
Incredible breakdown of these arguments. I learned a lot listening. Did I miss it, or was there the point that many pagan forms of worship involved free and unrestrained acts of sex and would have been the reason to stay away from it? Also her beginning explanation of the exclusivity and inclusivity of Christianity was a very powerful insight. I will definitely consider her book for my library.
@robertj5208
@robertj5208 27 дней назад
I don’t think it was discussed. Might be in her book?
@sharonlouise9759
@sharonlouise9759 26 дней назад
This was fantastic! I love Rebecca's heart, love for the Scriptures, but especially her love for Jesus. I simply wanted to add that even though Paul probably had a gift of celibacy, Paul had, and also needed, relationships with others within the church. Oh, yes. One comment from Rebecca which I give a hearty "amen" to was when she was talking about love and how rarely we see this applied to marriage, or even child rearing. I always like to say, "before my husband is my husband, he is also a brother in Christ and I am treat him as I would other believers." This is why I tell people, we should be glad if our spouse loves Jesus more and "hates" me because if that happens I will be loved more than I could even imagine. Awesome, awesome conversation.
@Peachesandsunshine
@Peachesandsunshine 27 дней назад
Do y’all read the description of the video??? It’s a discussion of the scriptures some misuse for same sex.
@bettytigers
@bettytigers 26 дней назад
A fine discussion!
@Sirach144
@Sirach144 25 дней назад
I’m gay. I’ve been celibate for 14 years. Love Jesus and God more.
@robertj5208
@robertj5208 27 дней назад
Beautiful!!!! Just Ordered 2 copies of her book!!
@chudeobuaya6868
@chudeobuaya6868 24 дня назад
This was a fantastic episode. I have been blessed by it
@anikrossignol8809
@anikrossignol8809 27 дней назад
This was fantastic! A courageous sister in Christ! God bless you both ❤
@angelanash7059
@angelanash7059 25 дней назад
Hi Karl, I have a question about the 80 years as a nation on page 38. What about Saul, David and Solomon's reign?
@cynthiarm253
@cynthiarm253 26 дней назад
Says one Christian sister to another: “You HAVE to love me.” I burst out in tears when l heard this…The problem of the worship and idolization of marriage in the church: it happens when we see a spouse or other human as a savior, not Jesus as our primary relationship. It happens when we give too much weight to earthly marriage rather than remember its use as a metaphor or symbol to represent Jesus’ love for His bride, or believers. This makes me think of nuns and priests, the idea being that they are single but ‘marry’ the Lord and lived in relationship with many other Christians (of course this is where many with same sex attraction had gravitated to). Yes as Christians we need to do SO MUCH BETTER loving each other, no matter marital status. It’s why church groups divided by ‘singles’, ‘married’, etc. were repellant to me in the past.
@paulosilva448
@paulosilva448 24 дня назад
Very very very helpful!!!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
@jimyoung9262
@jimyoung9262 25 дней назад
This was such a great talk. Your guest was brilliant. Thank you.
@dragonsigner
@dragonsigner 27 дней назад
Leviticus 18:22 in the Bible says, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination" That is simple to the point . How hard is that hard to understand Where is the word homosexual in that verse? Why don't you go to the Hebrew language too ... Or the Greek
@steelhurricane4041
@steelhurricane4041 26 дней назад
God is clear on this sin. No excuse.
@biddiemutter3481
@biddiemutter3481 26 дней назад
52:01 Thank you for pointing that out, Rebecca. Very true.
@IronLB-rv3jk
@IronLB-rv3jk 10 дней назад
Wow! several profound points made in this conversation for us all.
@korygordon8662
@korygordon8662 23 дня назад
What are the books that you mentioned
@user-xf5gp2ro2x
@user-xf5gp2ro2x 26 дней назад
Thank you Rebecca. The Church tends to push away even singles. "The Lord is near the brokenhearted;" - Psalm 34:18
@jessicamontaperto810
@jessicamontaperto810 25 дней назад
My previous church didn't handle singles or special needs families either including mine very cliquish.
@groganz5221
@groganz5221 20 дней назад
Very good Rebecca! Thank you!
@Gracehopemedia
@Gracehopemedia 27 дней назад
Thanks Sean. Great work as always.
@bbmoette
@bbmoette 25 дней назад
Wow! Thank you for this episode. Such profound and well-studied answers that not only answer the questions related to the topic but point us back to Jesus' love and how important He is...above anything else Brilliant.
@pappap1702
@pappap1702 26 дней назад
Wow we need a PhD to tell us what is plainly stated in Scripture. Wonderful
@steelhurricane4041
@steelhurricane4041 25 дней назад
They are wise in their own eyes.
@user-71435
@user-71435 8 дней назад
Well, yeah, that's the state of the people's minds today. We even need PhDs to tell us what a man and a woman is, even though nothing could more obvious.
@ChristianPhilosemite
@ChristianPhilosemite 27 дней назад
Closing remarks left me speechless... Reminds me of John 15:13
@robertj5208
@robertj5208 27 дней назад
So powerful and touching!
@pigdestr0yer1973
@pigdestr0yer1973 27 дней назад
I also bought into the "critical" interpretation of the Sodom story (that it was really about hospitality etc). Bought if you read it carefully: Why did Lot offer up his daughters? Of course it was for sexual purposes - and therefore, what the crowd was after, in the story, was to have sex with the visiting men (who were really angels). So no, it´s not about "hospitality". It´s about sin. The "old school" interpretation is clearly the correct one.
@leftwingersareweak
@leftwingersareweak 26 дней назад
I'm not sold on this idea of "unconditional love." God is our standard, and He places conditions on love. This is not wrong either. Deuteronomy 28:1
@greatfilmmaker
@greatfilmmaker 27 дней назад
Paul is talking about practice. Amen not having the same attraction but practicing it
@karl5395
@karl5395 27 дней назад
True. But what does the bible teach about sexual lust?
@greatfilmmaker
@greatfilmmaker 27 дней назад
@@karl5395 1 Thessalonians 4:3-5 read it for yourself
@bree_nicole
@bree_nicole 27 дней назад
@@karl5395True, but I think there is a difference though between lust and temptation. We cannot fully control when a thought pops into our head, but we CAN control wether we entertain and dwell on that thought, or flee from it and run to Jesus. Being tempted isn’t a sin. Allowing those thoughts to remain unbridled is.
@karl5395
@karl5395 26 дней назад
@@bree_nicole agree
@cathy7382
@cathy7382 23 дня назад
The same sex attractions are rooted in our fallen nature and should be thwarted
@DanielGardner
@DanielGardner 26 дней назад
Important topic! Was in a hurry so I ran through chatGPT to get initial pointers. Will now watch the video to see how correct the AI was. Posting here in case anyone else wants to review in concise version: 1. **Christians should just focus on the gospel of God's love.** - Dr. McLaughlin argued that God's design for Christian marriage is inherently tied to the gospel of God's love, and that true love cannot be separated from God's design for marriage and our bodies. 2. **Jesus was silent on same-sex relationships.** - Dr. McLaughlin pointed out that Jesus did define marriage in Matthew 19, referring back to Genesis, where marriage is described as a union between male and female. She emphasized that Jesus' teachings on marriage implicitly exclude same-sex unions. 3. **God's judgment on Sodom isn't judgment on same-sex relationships.** - Dr. McLaughlin noted that the story of Sodom in Genesis is often misunderstood and that historical interpretations within the church have consistently viewed it as condemning same-sex sexual relationships. 4. **The Bible's prohibitions on same-sex relationships are outdated and culturally specific.** - Dr. McLaughlin explained that while some Old Testament laws are not reiterated in the New Testament, the prohibitions against same-sex relationships are reaffirmed, indicating their continued relevance. 5. **Paul condemns exploitative same-sex relationships, not consensual ones.** - Dr. McLaughlin argued that Paul's writings in the New Testament do not make a distinction between exploitative and consensual same-sex relationships, and that the prohibitions apply broadly to all same-sex sexual relationships. 6. **The concept of sexual orientation is modern and not addressed in the Bible.** - Dr. McLaughlin acknowledged that while the modern concept of sexual orientation is not explicitly addressed in the Bible, the biblical texts still provide clear guidance on sexual ethics and relationships. 7. **The Bible's overarching message is one of love and inclusion.** - Dr. McLaughlin emphasized that true love, according to the Bible, involves adhering to God's design for marriage and sexuality, and that inclusion does not mean affirming all behaviors. 8. **There are examples of same-sex relationships in the Bible that are positive.** - Dr. McLaughlin refuted this argument by stating that the examples often cited (e.g., David and Jonathan) do not involve sexual relationships and should not be interpreted as endorsements of same-sex unions. 9. **The Bible's teachings on marriage and sexuality are not meant to be taken literally.** - Dr. McLaughlin argued that the teachings on marriage and sexuality in the Bible are meant to be taken seriously and literally, as they reflect God's design and purpose for human relationships. 10. **The church has historically changed its stance on other issues, so it can change on this one too.** - Dr. McLaughlin countered that while the church has indeed changed its stance on some issues, the biblical teachings on marriage and sexuality have remained consistent and are rooted in the unchanging nature of God's design.
@christinelogan1496
@christinelogan1496 26 дней назад
Thanks Rebecca.
@richardawhitesel7691
@richardawhitesel7691 27 дней назад
Thank you.
@pebblesq2010
@pebblesq2010 20 дней назад
Great answer about brotherly love Rebecca! ❤
@godschild2432
@godschild2432 27 дней назад
I always knew I was a sinner since a child don’t get when people can’t see their own sin
@Mrwan13
@Mrwan13 24 дня назад
Thorough investigation! Can you right a book justifying murder next?
@nfcboys1984
@nfcboys1984 20 дней назад
God doesn’t make mistakes when creating our genders and sexual preferences to the opposite sex. The VAST majority of gay men, and woman were abused in someway, shape or fashion. There could be other triggering factors like a terribly overbearing and non supportive father to a son etc.
@user-bz2wm4ks6y
@user-bz2wm4ks6y 27 дней назад
“Deep love on offer!” I love this phrase that Dr. McLaughlin used to describe the atmosphere that ought to prevail in the church. It's a shame the video didn't get to its deep-love-on-offer portion till it was almost over. Instead, we had the obligatory parrying of arguments for affirming same-sex relationships to make sure everyone's got their doctrine right. I'm tired of that. So tired. Dr. McLaughlin, would you tell us more about your church? How do you make people feel welcome? How do you inspire church members to reach out in love? I want to hear more about a church with deep love on offer.
@jgrdunc1081
@jgrdunc1081 25 дней назад
Thank you for such a powerful Biblical God honoring conversation about an important topic!
@celestinomoya4470
@celestinomoya4470 26 дней назад
Wow! She is so rich in Jesus! God’s blessings all over you, Sister!! Thank you so much for loving our King!!!
@kelnstan
@kelnstan 19 дней назад
We recognize that our own twisted desires are very strong yet they pale in comparison to the strength of God’s desire for us!
@hmmokay.4807
@hmmokay.4807 25 дней назад
Thank you
@robertlaabs5066
@robertlaabs5066 23 дня назад
I love her closing statements about Real Christian Family 😁
@WORTHY333
@WORTHY333 19 дней назад
I really appreciate Rebecca’s study in the Bible & her own candid sharing that makes her credibility in answering these questions valid. I agree in her answers & makes me want to keep focusing on loving those struggling with same sex desires especially in the body of Christ. Christ’s love for us trumps all that we may feel is lost. I agree our culture idolizes too much on relationship with others. Paul’s letter to the Philippians may apply to what I’m thinking: “Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith- that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, that by any means possible I may attain the resurrection from the dead.” ‭‭Philippians‬ ‭3‬:‭8‬-‭11‬ ‭ESV‬‬
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