10 EXTREMELY UNDERRATED Smash Ultimate Moves 

Thanks for watching! What did you think of the list? This is a topic I've gotten a lot of requests to revisit, so if you think there's a good candidate I missed, feel free to let me know and maybe it'll pop up in another episode at some point! Also need to give a correction: all jabs besides the honourable mention are frame 2. As for the original video this came from, you can watch it here if you'd like: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kghWfaMQEWs.htmlsi=vhVEZ1f862eJL3EG *Main channel:* ru-vid.com *Twitter:* twitter.com/MrMockRock *Patreon:* www.patreon.com/mockrock *Twitch:* www.twitch.tv/mockrocktwitch *Teespring:* teespring.com/stores/mockrock

Ah, poor pits. What kind of mandela effect is making so many people see a solid back air as bottom tier like this? At least we got an immaculate Mockrock segment out of it. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: we need more mildly unhinged MockRock on this channel.

15:55 did not expect to see a set from my local here man does his research 😂

I have an honorable mention. Lucario nair. It’s -1 at WORST. Combo starter, combo extender, edge guarding tool, creates tech chases, and kills at high auras. The only down side being its frame 10 on start up

Glad someone finally acknowledged how Sakurai straight up lied to our faces when he said Daisy's moves "behave differently" than Peach's.

As someone who for the longest time was advocating for how broken Corrin’s up air was, I cannot tell you how satisfying it felt when people started to also realize “Wait. That move is actually horseshit”. But then the monkey’s paw curled and it became spammed. So seeing you advocate for 10 MORE moves that could turn into a Corrin up air situation, I pray it isn’t the same outcome Also you uploaded at the perfect time for me since I was literally just rewatching one of your older videos :)

Meta Knight's new Drill Rush tech is really cool, thanks for including it!

Can we get some props for Robin's neutral air? The Levin version in particular is a Frame 7 disjoint that outspaces 90% of the roster, deals semispike knockback, and kills outright offstage at ungodly percents. Yet a lot of the community seems to forget Robin has a sword at all, much less a sword move that matches the reach of Shulk's forward air with _half_ as much startup!

Alright, soapbox time: Duck Hunt’s nair. No, I’m not kidding. It’s one of those moves that’s hard to see as good unless you play a lot of the character, but as a DH main, it is SO versatile. The strong hit deals a good chunk of damage and can even kill in some scenarios, but the real utility in my opinion comes when combining it with a fast fall. The recovery time after landing is minimal so you can easily follow it up with a jab combo or interrupt, and if you don’t fast fall, it auto-cancels. This is super useful if someone is trying to rush you down and you need to throw out a non-committal hitbox; but even its weak hit is enough to break people’s momentum. Once that happens, you have an opening to chase your opponent with a grab or dash attack, or even just run away to make more space. With platforms, though? Nair becomes another beast altogether. After pushing someone off a platform, you can dash forward and use a fast fall nair to keep the combo going, and if the strong hitbox connects then they’ll be pushed at a low angle and likely tumble. This opens them up for a jab/down tilt lock, a trap with the gunman, or a forward smash. If the weak hitbox connects, then the low recovery time still gives you an opportunity to connect since the opponent still has to deal with a bit of hitstun. Need to get off a platform safely? Fast fall nair. Have a can you need to reverse on a platform? Hit it with the back half of nair. Need an easy gimp? Nair, even the weak hitbox. Want to cross up the opponent safely? Put out gunman then nair behind them while they’re forced into an option. (This is even better if it’s a RAR nair!) I honestly think this move is the most underrated in Duck Hunt’s kit. It’s amazingly versatile and really fun once you work out the situations it excels in.

An extra note about Falco's Nair is how much damage each multi-hit does. Each multi-hit before the final hit does about 3% for each hit, rather then 0.5% - 1% for most multi-hit moves. Landing the Nair dragdown multiple times and during combos can rack an insane amount of damage

Sidenote on Falco's nair : in smash 4 it used to have a windbox that would make it consistent even on shorter characters while keeping pretty much the same hitbox. It got removed in ultimate and I really don't know why (btw falco's nair is the most underrated move in smash 4 to me)

We have a good MK in my region and the amount of times he's done the stupid ledge thing with drill rush is ludicrous. But also funny.

If you talk about lucas... my boy... love up air but why not F-air! -2 on shield . Kills , disjointed , sour spot for tech chasing . Really freaking good move

Lucas' kit in general is by far the most underrated in the game. He has amazing buttons, is well rounded, good fall speed, hits like a truck, amazing edgeguarding... what's not to love?

As a Falcon main, one other use case for falcon kick is, seriously, ledge guarding. A lot of characters that are good offstage like to drift in horizontally to keep their options open. If you punish this once with a surprise falcon kick, that will definitely kill, they'll start recovering low every time, opening the door for that juicy dair.

Plant mains finally seeing their character get some form of recognition:

honorable mentions should go to ALL of mewtwo's tilts tbh. down-tilt is super fast and combos into his up-tilt, which can start a juggle if you know where the opponent's going

Little correction on Mewtwo's F-Tilt: it's -13/-14 on shield, not -15/-16. Ultimate Frame Data gets this wrong for some reason. Also I'm surprised you didn't mention that F-Tilt confirms out of drag down Nair at any percent! That's so broken.

Here's my addition: Lucario Nair. It's reasonably large, leads to combos, lingers for 11 frames, and edgegaurds. But the crazy thing is, it's can be -2 on shield WITHOUT AURA. With max aura, it can be ZERO on shield. It's only flaw is that its relatively slow, at frame 10.

Ness F tilt is a super underrated move, and every time I kill someone with it they’re like “That kills???” The move isn’t ridiculous or anything, but I swear absolutely no one knows about it and how much it can do

Your falcon kick explanation was great. Everyone I talk to says falcon has a good oos cause it's a command grab with fairly good drift and range. I'm like... bruh. It's frame 14. Good players always spot dodge vs falcon when they toss out an aerial on shield. And if you're expecting the up B, it's pretty punishable even with drift. Fsfk is definitely better, it just sucks cause we can only do it if they literally land on top of us. Edit: also falcon kick kills way earlier than it should when you catch someone with bad di lol. I've killed a joker game 5 last hit in bracket cause I hadn't used it all set and he was at like 90% lmao.

I feel like Mewtwo Dash Attack and F-Tilt are a parallel. Dash Attack looks brutal but isn’t much of a killer. F-Tilt looks tame but is a surprisingly strong kill move.

Wow the companion video to the overrated moves video came super fast

Yoshi's double jump armor let's em escape meta knight's side b... and without that final hit meta knight falls like a rock. It might just be an inconsistency but I've experienced it first hand.

One underrated move that comes to my mind is Villager Nair. Frame 3 startup, -4 on shield, very great for edgeguards, can lead into more aireals, decent out of shield option, good hitbox. I know most villager players would use forward and back air for edgeguards and zoning but when opponents are right below the ledge and can avoid forward smash, Nair is almost perfect.

RosaLuma Nair, Back Air, Starbits and Luma Down Tilt, I think, are Rosalina & Luma's most underrated moves - definitley enough there to be able to talk about

For Lucario, I want to bring up Forward Tilt and Down Air F-Tilt is one of Lucario's greater approach options with good knockback and a secondary hitbox that can catch people who are not expecting it. It also has good shield poking and is a pretty safe option as well. Running F-Tilt is really good to also catch retreating opponents and can get a KO at high enough damage. Down Air is pretty fast and is one of Lucario's more reliable out of shield options. It can also be a good get off move for anytime he whiffs or hits the opponent's shield if the opponent doesn't react fast enough. Those two moves would be my candidate for a good underrated move from Lucario

I'm so glad you included Lucas up-air in this video, I always found it insane how NO ONE complains about it. But that's cuz 90% of Lucas players are known for being annoying and dumb lol

I like using Pit's back air out of hitstun since it shifts his hurtbox away quite a bit and takes you out of tumble for fast fall. Helps as a mixup against a surprising amount of fake combos.

I’m so glad someone finally mentioned piranha plant’s jab. I currently main plant and jab is honestly such a good underrated tool on his kit and is a jab a lot of better characters would benefit from. Hoping to see someone take piranha plant seriously one day.

I’d like to nominate Yoshi’s jab. It’s essentially a combination of the two jabs listed here, since it’s frame 3, it can set up tech chases, and has a kill confirm with jab 1 -> Yoshi bomb. In addition, it’s also safer on shield than the jabs listed, at -10 and -11 for jab 1 and 2 respectively.

that marth clip had me howling

As a Lucas player, I agree with your assesment. Though, for a potential follow up video, I'd like to propose bair as well. It's -6 at worst (-4 at the sweet spot), and is a very strong spike which sends at an angle away from him. If the opponent is spiked offstage, they can't tech even if they DI in. Landing it grounded also has so much hitstun that Lucas can combo it into up air, fair, and even itself for an offstage spike for kills and till ludicrous percents. Its only downsides are somewhat short range and it's easy to parry.

Olimar’s Winged Pikmin is unironically one of the best recoveries in the game as well as allowing really sick movement options and ladder combos. Criminally underrated.

13:56 For some reason I can't escape the Shinji chair lately. Take my chuckles, you've earned them.

I did not expect Brennan Lee Mulligan's lips to appear in a MockRock video!

Banjo & Kazooie - Breegal Blaster w/ Breegal blaster Cancels

I was hoping a Mii move will get another shout out and seeing Mii Gunner on the list (my personal favourite of them Miis) brings me so much joy.

Echo fighters were truly a feature of smash ultimate

These types of videos are the best. I love the explanations for moves, discussing what makes them good, etc. Even if the moves aren't the top 10 best, explaining why the less flashy moves are these unsung heroes is still incredibly interesting.

I'd probably nominate Kirby's bair. It's a cross between Mario's and Falco's in terms of frame data and knockback (frame 6, -5 on shield, kills around under 100% at ledge), but it's also huge and flattens Kirby's hitbox. It's really hard to contest in neutral because it beats out most hitboxes (the move does almost 16% and is slightly disjointed) and Kirby's low jump height means that it can be used both rising and falling. Comboes out of up-tilt at a wide percent range, and landing back air can start comboes / mixups if you get the autocancel. It's also a fantastic tool for platform tech chases at high percent or frame trapping air dodges, and of course it meshes perfectly with Kirby's already amazing edgeguarding.

My only thing with Dr. Mario's jab 1 is that you essentially have to hit them as close as possible for the confirm to work. It has three hitboxes that all send at an auto-link angle, but the furthest one barely sends them anywhere and sometimes even makes jab 2 whiff. Still my favorite kill confirm tho. On the topic of Dr. Mario, Super Sheet is a pretty fun move, not only because you can b-reverse it for mix-up and sometimes landing, but it can also 2-frame and it can lead into d-tilt, d-smash, down-angled f-tilt, or up special (tho iirc it's a bit character dependent).

Man I loved this video, as someone who enjoys the competitive aspect of smash but isn't *that* much into it, I didn't know a lot of this stuff and it was so cool so see all the uses cases of moves that I thought were just fine. Meta Knight and Samus especially left me flabbergasted

I'm so happy you talked about Lucas up air I don't even play the character but when I get him on random I cook with that move

As a piranha plant user, I do need to use gentleman jab more but yeah how quick the move comes out is definitely vital for me. Though I will say up air really is something that I think is better than Lucas's up air overall. I do like the idea that Lucas does easily combo with his midair jump, but for piranha plan not only is it also a good combo maker for opponents in the air, but it also can kill fairly early for how quick the move is.

On the topic of “scrub moves” because of how often low level players spam them, I think Zelda’s neutral B is pretty underrated. Yes, it’s good as a combo breaker and get-off-me tool (even though it’s horrifically punishable on shield) but an underrated aspect of it is how good it is at edge guarding. Zelda is invincible on frames 4-13, and the move comes out at frame 11. Those 9 frames mean that the recoveries that are typically hard to edgeguard because of their accompanying hitboxes (Roy up B is the first thing that comes to mind) become shockingly easy to intercept. Also being able to reflect things is also nice

Zelda's D-air is prettt underated, probably becuase it is on Zelda but its a pretty brutal tool. Its has low ending lag for how powerful the sweet spot is so she can use pretty far of stage and still recover, it can punish air dodges really hard, it has lots of potetial for kill combos on grounded oppents, even the sour spot has really High knockback growth so at higer percents you dont even try to get sweet spot and it can gimp recoveries at mid percentages too

You can do two Ness Nairs in one short hop... that is all

I love how I was thinking ganon up-tilt and forgot that your intro starts with that

Lucas dtilt next? It guarantees into a grab at higher percents and is frame 3, unreactable. Drag down dtilt combos into a surprising amount of things and is pretty safe on shield as it pushes you away

I see all those guitars :) guitar is awesome. Its been so satisfying for me to actually get a foothold on this extremely overwhelming instrument. Id totally watch if u made a video talking about your guitar journey

"Pit bair bad because sourspot don't kill" my brother in christ landed sour bair can combo into another back air

a tricky and amazing pit combo i love is down thow or down tilt, reverse dair, into bair. on stages with tight blastzones that can kill at 50 maybe earlier also btw mockrock, for next time you conplain about pitboxes, i have a clip of Pits aerials looking like they should connect but not, up air, nair and fair, all in like 10 seconds on a town balloon. as soon as it happened i realised it felt right at home in one of your vids

I feel like mii gunners up tilt is better, it's literally almost safe in most situations, very quick startup and animated, starts from the ground and cover basically everything directly in front and above him, very spamable, combos like fox up tilt for a little, but does take a while to kill.

My suggestion is greninja's up-air. Its a frame-7 multi-hit aerial, with drag-down potential. You can combo into it out of dash attack, what makes this move really good is how it interacts with greninja's high jumps and the ability to link into itself out of short-hop. This can lead to extended juggles which net large amounts of damage on some characters. Up-air is greninja's best method for racking up damage quickly, which is convenient because it also kills. Also going to mention shulk's up-tilt.

On the topic of echo fighters, sometimes I wonder if that line in Daisy’s reveal trailer was just about her different visual effects in terms of “different behaviour”, since the turnip patch clearly shows they don’t want any gameplay differences between the two.

As a samus comain, her tilts are INCREDIBLE. up tilt not only does everything mentioned as an edge trap move but also provides playform coverage for tech situations. Down tilt is really safe and helps start combos and f tilt is a solid poke tool.

I'd like to shout out K Rools' up aerial where he just straight up headbutts from below? If an enemy is coming down it's really effective

Sonic’s spring is a wild tool that no one uses correctly

11:32 I audibly laughed out loud when I saw that.

I've got a clip saved of a falco missing 3 or 4 nairs in a row and I definitely thought I should've been it but this video makes it make sense

Another really slept on lucas pick is bair. Fat hitbox, nasty combo and kill potential, good frame data, spammable as hell, and stylish

The Mii’s have some underrated moves. Mii swordfighter with his insane down-tilt and up-air (and better falcon kick down-b option). Mii gunner with his neutral b grenade that is +20 on shield Mii brawler with his insane up-tilt (and everything else that everyone body knows is insane, but up tilt is like smash 4 Mario up tilt) Also I still think Zelda’s up-air is underrated for being the strongest raw up-air in the game, while also having a good disjointed hitbox and a little bit of combo potential at earlier percents.

Two that immediately come to mind are Mii swordfighter's skyward slash dash (ssd) and power thrust. Not really worth talking about them though because a good amount of points made with meta knights move and falcon kick translate over to this. Talking about a different move because of that, I'm going to talk about mii swordfighter forward tilt, back air, and down air. Each of them have deceptively big hitboxes. Don't get me wrong, they aren't cloud D-air big, but they are bigger than the sword itself would suggest. Forward tilt is the hardest to explain, but put simply, I have on occasion been able to out range some of clouds moves, and it does also seem to be decent enough at catching people when they dash back. B-air is just dumb, the first goes a pretty far distance behind Mii, and the second one just covers their head entirely. In other words, it's first frame is narrower cloud back air, and the second is cloud back air on top of mii swordfighter. As for down air, I lied, it's cloud D-air with it being a multi hit, 5 less active frames, and a landing hitbox. I know that I'm making a lot of cloud comparisons, but it's the best frame of reference that I have since I've played against cloud a lot. Also I get to bring up that mii swordfighter and cloud have the exact same weight, and that they're the only two characters that share that exact weight. From having messed around with cloud a decent amount as well, I can say that mii swordfighter is just a jankier cloud that has different tools to use.

Ahhhh, I’ve missed these, thank you mockrock, I think one pretty underrated move is dedede’s up tilt. I’m a dedede main and I often get a lot of use out of it cus it’s very quick, great kill power, pretty safe and decent hit box with some intangiblity. It’s kind of a worst snake up tilt in almost every way but it’s still a nasty move.

I think after seeing BOBC that Breegull Blaster deserves a spot. The way it messes with hitstop when you attack an egg and how Banjo can immediately cancel it into something like FSmash or Wonderwing makes it a beast

Dr. Mario's lingering neutral air goes well with his jab when someone shields the first one

Now I really need to use Mewtwo’s f-tilt more when I play him. These videos can help a lot. Thanks!

Always love these, great work!

mewtwo jab is a hilarious move, when you hit someone with it with your back to the ledge and they don't sdi, they take about 50-70. ive hit this in brackets multiple times and had to explain this after

So, this might be controversial (it sure is), but I'd say that for Mac it'd either be dash attack, up air, nair or neutral B. For the dash attack, it's quick at frame 7, surprisingly safe since it crossups, setup for tech situations on plats (Mac can abuse the shit out of them), comboes into itself at low% and is a great confirm from dtilt that is more reliable than ftilt, it 2 frames and can kill at 160%-ish. This does everything and it's one of the greatest dash attack in the entire game. For his aerials, they're not GREAT but they have a purpose, and that's something peoples seem to forget. Up Air is a decent combo starter (landing up air comboes into imagination it's kinda nut) and combo ender from up tilt (safer than up B). The hitbox is also surprisingly huge (it's a bit disjointed). Nothing ground breaking but it's not as bad as ppls take it for. Nair is a bit trickier as it is a bad neutral air, but a good move. His saving grace is being a frame 2 move with low endlag. Mac player can basically get out of hitstun for free without risking anything. It also makes plat movement way easier and is just cheap af. You can also do stuff like Nair up B but they're niche and you'll not touch the right hitbox for it to work, buuuut Nair jab kinda works and does a decent amount of damage. Finally, neutral B might be the least underrated from this list, but I think most player don't get how bullshit this move is in some MU. It denies multihits (Armor on hit at 9.6% starting frame 1 (yeah)), Palu can't juggle Mac for exemple. It's basically focus but the total opposite. Also we can cancel into shield (so spotdodge, Roll, up Smash, up B, jump Side B (frame 10)). The move in itself is also one of the greatest shieldbreak punish in the game on a character with an armored shieldbreaker in his toolkit lmao. Ah and also it sometimes kills at 25 while being frame 9, having armor on frame 8 and going through shield whiiile covering plats and jump This char is not Bottom 2 man

I'd honestly really like to just see you make a video about pit and dark pit. Whether it's a more detailed look at the changes you'd want, or just 30 minutes of you talking about cool pit stuff. I think it'd be a good time.

I see my character in a thumbnail, I click

Meta Knight B-Air: Disjoint, frame 7, it last forever (21 frames), forces tech (which you know set the scenario for chases), the easiest stage-spike B-Air ever (just throw it randomly if the enemy is recovering low, you can use it to raw spike or fast fall to mess his timing), kinda strong, and you can fast fall to "spike" them, if you move away from your opponent while fast falling there is a chance the last hit misses and they get dragged down to blastzone (I have footage of it if).

This is definitely not at all an underrated move, but it does seem to be understandably overshadowed at times: Jigglypuff’s nair. It’s already pretty good, but I feel like people other than puff mains are likely to assume that it’s outclassed by fair and bair, but Jigglypuff’s nair rocks. Pretty fast, basically the same start up as fair and bair, great knockback at the sweetspot, and the sourspot has good combo potential, into fair/bair loops, decent range. What I *love* about this move, however, is how long it lasts. Fair and bair have one small issue, and it’s their short duration. Obviously can be mitigated with good timing and great frame data otherwise, but sometimes, the situation calls for being able to cover as much anount of time as possible, for delayed recoveries, and nair has that nailed. Hit the sweetspot on accident, the knockback is almost certainly going to kill offstage. Hit the sourspot, you’ll probably still have time for an extra fair or bair. And it’s so damn maneuverable, an airjump+nair is so amazing because there’s so much area that you can easily decide to cover, while being pretty damn safe. And dair is good too, but the angle it sends at is short and sometimes not always what you want, and also covers less on the sides. Fair and bair are amazing, but nair fills that special niche amazingly and complete’s Jigglypuff’s air game more than some people realize.

As a Mewtwo player, Side Tilt is not only insane but good against the standard stile of play in general and has good synergy with his kit.

I was actually surprised when I heard that people some people said Pits back air was a bad, like, what? I already knew it was a good kill move, so I knew it was good, but man, you sold me on a lot more of advantages it has that I wasn't even aware of, thank you! ^^

Another neat thing about pirahna plant rapid jab is it last way longer at ledge. Like this is the case for most rapid jabs, but that's usually when the opponent is the one at the ledge. For pirahna plant, you can roll to ledge so you face towards the stage and the rapid jab will still hold opponents for much longer than normal

Great video, I like the topic!

Great video Mock! Very enjoyable

Drill rush and Samus up tilt getting the love they deserve.

Good video but after watching this one, I wanted to rewatch the video on Mockrock but there isn't a direct link in the description which just seems odd. Not too big of a deal, but if you did that, I'd expect some people to click on it

a feel like half of incins moves could make a list like this because his buttons are crazy but few people realize just how good they really are. just some examples Dtilt - combo tool at any percent above like 20%, can true combo into up air or bair at higher percents to get a kill. 2 frames pretty easily and true combos into ftilt at mid to high percents for early kills or an aerial at higher percents for a kill. safe on shield if spaced especially with revenge Ftilt- very fast spammablemove that sends at a nasty angle for some crazy early kills. useful for whiff punishing, tech chasing and can even hit certain ledge hangs such as jokers. also safe on shield with revenge (can but PLUS 10 at best which can almost net you a grab). deadass one of the best ftilts imo up air - mario up air but bigger and it kills neutral b- this is a frame 5 move thats fully invisible the 5-7 i think (grounded), upper body a few frames after, and just arms for the rest of the move. It is a very good get off me tool for when you think your opponent is gonna hit a button and itll basically beat anything thats not a grab, fully invincible, or faster than frame 5. Also this shit kills pretty early at ledge, does mad shield damage, is a good landing mixup tool, a good combo finisher, and in certain situations is rather hard to punish effectively or at all if you whiff. ofc against certain characters or an experienced opponent you can get punished rather hard or baited but its still very underrated imo.

i love robin's thunder and elthunder so much, i think they're quite overlooked compared to arcthunder and thoron. thunder is great to throw out as a really quick projectile for zoning, blocking projectiles, and just getting some damage in, and elthunder can go pretty well off stage and sometimes get some early kills if you get a good shot

You know what I want to see? A tier list for every move (similar to ESAM’s, but MockRock-ified)

Would love to see Greninja's Hydro Pump make it onto one of these lists! It's an EXTREMELY versatile move that does WAY more than allow Gren to recover. He can scoop jumping opponents with it in neutral and catch their landing, unstale his kill moves, ledge cancel to quickly get across the stage, push away items like PAC-MAN's Bell, catch the opponent's landing option, kill off the top blast zone, kill certain characters like GnW or Snake at 0 for using their Up B on stage, edge guard, frame trap with a ledge snap into Bair, use it as an escape tool in disadvantage (it's faster than Sonic's run), juke opponents out when landing by switching directions, switch between multiple angles to avoid edge guards, head bonk when recovering to avoid 2-frames, head bonk onto Kalos or Town's side platforms, extend his recovery by head bonking, push opponents away when being ledge trapped, or pump straight through their shield, locking them in place to get to center stage. These are just a few examples that come to mind :)

Sheik up tilt is really underrated as well, It's crazy as an anti-air. Her hurtbox shifts so much that her entire upper half is essentially missing during the startup, and the hitbox is so big that she beats out Link Nair at some spacings (it trades if he's directly above you, but it beats out approaching or OoS nairs.). It's also her longest ranged and safest tilt on shield.

I think marth's f tilt goes under the radar. It's tipper is really easy to hit, especially against tall rectangular characters or characters pretty flat to the ground. It even hits from below platforms.

I feel like we need some love for splat bomb. it’s a projectile that changes its travel arc and timing depending on how long you charge it which makes it very versatile. It can even be used as a movement tool by b reversing the charge animation.

Mockrock is the best smash RU-vidr in terms of being a cross between informative and entertaining. Perfect sweet spot

Isabelle jab is actually quite possibly one of the best in the entire game, and receives little to no love, due to her being a VERY underplayed character

A move I would like to mention that didn’t make it in is King K. Rool’s up air. Most people dismiss it because of the atrocious amount of endlag it has (which is fair, in fact it actually used to be even worse before they buffed it), but it’s SO much better than non-K. Rool players give it credit for. It’s frame 7, which is exactly as fast as neutral air, he gets both head intangibility and belly armor while it’s active, and most notably, it boosts him in the air slightly (edit: provided you don’t mash it out of hitstun), effectively giving him a triple jump with a hitbox. It has many applications, including: - Increasing K. Rool’s threat range in neutral - Stalling offstage - Calling out double jumps - Repositioning/mixups in disadvantage - Getting off ledge - Can kill confirm off of crown and/or dair for some REALLY early kills if up smash won’t work It’s not his BEST move by any means (nair, fair and his projectiles easily outclass it), but up air is CRAZY good and I’m sick of people pretending it’s not

As a K Rool Main, one of the most misrepresented, unappreciated, and neglected moves in his kit is his NAIR. If any other character in Smash had this move, it would boost them up a tier. The move is safe on the shield, it lasts for about 30 frames, it kills, it has a very generous hitbox, it has a small disjoint, it combos into jab, crown, grab, up tilt, fair, and itself, and as if that wasn't all good enough, it has super armor. The armor is strong enough to eat one hit from Ganon's forward smash and beats out most recoveries in the game, making him the king of ledge traps and edge guarding. It is insane. I have no idea why this move is not used more in elite smash, especially since it significantly softens the blow of what would be considered horrible match ups for him.

I've still absolutley gotta vouch for Donkey Kong's hand slap. Specifically the aerial version. This move comes out relatively quickly and does a great job of covering tech options and catching your opponent when grounded, but when airborne this move turns into an absolute must in DK's kit. The move comes out in 12 frames which makes it somewhat middle ranged as far as aerial options are concerned but it only gets better from there. It has 10 frames of landing lag making it's first hit a great combo tool when landing on opponents. This hit is also weight based meaning it connects even when opponents are at high percentages and with the considerable range that DK's arms always have it also almost always conects when mixing up timing for the second hit and manages to stay fairly safe on sheild if spaced properly. In addition to this, DK can use it to mix up where he's landing making one of the hardest things about playing DK (or any heavy for that matter), landing, just a little bit easier. It's also great at the ledge because it sticks down a little ways and two frames recoveries. And that's not even getting into the bulk of its actual combo routing. Up smash, up air, nair, big punch and last but certainly not least, forward tilt. Not only do these moves combo, but a handful of them kill making DK even scarier when he's landing on top of you. I know the move is fairly well known for its place in DK's kit, but I just think the aerial version goes overlooked. It combos, set's up kill confirms, two frames, mixes landing times and is a scary kill move all on its own when not above the ground. Just an all around great and somewhat underated move. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. 🐒

oh yay, piranha plant jab! he's gonna talk about how the gentleman is basically safe on shield and you can hold opponents in shield right? oh. . . he underrated it :\

Really gotta say you should look into villagers jabs. It’s super fast, holds people in for a while and it’s super reliable. While he has a slow grab, the jab is the best option for tech chases as well as roll/spotdodge punishes. Can also even do his jab even after hitting a forward smash on shield

Lucas Uair is goated for combo extensions into pk thunder multi hit loops. You can nab a 0-78% off of landing uair and kill people who don't air dodge

I believe I actually commented on your first take on this regarding lumas forward smash, and I stand by that, but there are so many moves between Rosalina and Luma that deserve more credit than they get. Luma f-smash is absolutely stupid strong and can hit ledge and when paired with Rosa actually puts them as top 10 strongest in the game with Lumas sweet spot (I am like 95% confident in that statement, it was definitely true at some point). Their jabs are phenomenal speed and they can combo off of one another's jabs for damage or kills, and Luma rapid jab just straight up kills. The last move I want to highlight is down tilt, ESPECIALLY Lumas. I haven't seen it much in top level play (used in the way that I am about to talk about) because top Rosas typically do not deviate from the extremely defensive playstyle Rosa excels at, but as a Rosa/Bayo main I tend to play more aggressively. I, of course, still abuse Rosas defensive nature, but I also go offensive significantly more often than I have seen other Rosas do. Positioning luma on one side of the stage and Rosa on the other forces their opponent to panic to a certain extent. If a luma down tilt connects, it can easily lead into a lot of Rosa buttons, and kill confirm into up smash or f-smash. All this is made better by the fact that Rosa can cancel her down tilt into a wave dash while luma still down tilts. Even not talking about kills, it can lead into grabs, tech chases/jab locks, and even smash attacks for damage if it's something you want. If someone goes to attack luma, down tilt has surprising priority, clanking with a lot of moves (and even disjoints and projectiles)I also wanted to mention luma back-air, but I think most know that move is pretty nuts. Great video MockRock!!

Gannon filt is so viscerally satisfying I love it so much

Good video. Glad to see Doc, M2 and Plant gets some love. Gonna dump a ton of other moves: -Pika D-Tilt: -4, has a 30% chance to trip, very spammable, leads to tech-chases or even locks. Really odd no one talks about this move. -Luigi's Dash Attack: Frame 4, a great spot-dodge catcher to go with grab and it kills pretty well at the ledge. It does have some linking issues around, kind of a shame, but still pretty dang good. -Ness and Belle's F-Tilts: Why are they so strong!? -Ness's Bair: Again, why is it so strong!? It kills most character's at the ledge sub-100%, is only minus -4 on-shield, has a lingering sourspot that sets up for good combos and it's only frame 10 with an oddly large hitbox. -Doc's Up-Smash: It's Mario's, but kills at 100% and has an extra active frame that hits in front. -Doc's Super Sheet: Many have written it off as a flat downgrade cause it doesn't stall mid-air, but that just opens up for B-Reverse and Wavebouncing. Very handing movement mix-up, notably when getting juggled. Also can't forget about the Cape Pull tech on ledge which isn't super great, but is nice option to have and can cover you if they try throwing a project when coming back. -Lucario's F-Tilt: More of his players are starting to abuse it more. But dang, that disjoint and 2-Frame ability with the solid kill power all for that low of lag. Not bad. Not bad at all. -Tink's F-Tilt: Not a fancy move by any regards, but still don't get why it hits behind and 2-frames while being only -11 on-shield. Feels like it isn't spammed as much as it could be. -Rosa's D-Smash: Shockingly quick with low endlag (41 FAF, faster then her other Smashes), hits ledge, covers both sides twice thanks to Luma and sends a nasty low angle. -K. Rool's Fair: Good for many of the same reasons as the Pit's Bair. Fairly quick, one of his best anti-airs thanks to the upper disjoint. Can start some beefy combos at low-percents with solid kill power and is only -5 at the sweetspot which is very easy to land. One of the Kroc's few spammable attacks... onstage anyway. If only it didn't have all the endlag... -Hero's Up-Tilt: Massive coverage with solid kill power, even without buffs. -Hero's Nair: Kind of a different take on Ike's. For a character with sluggish normals, it's one of the few safe ones that also starts decent damage. Again, without buffs.