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Ranking EVERY Neutral Special Animation in Smash Ultimate 

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Neutral specials are often one of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate's most important types of moves and a huge part of their characters' kits. The Smash world has plenty of tier lists, discussions, etc. discussing their power, but their animations don't always get the attention they deserve. Today, we fix that by exploring every neutral special animation in Smash and ranking them on a tier list!
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Music used:
"MockRock Is Here (Relaxed)" - MockRock
"MockRock is Here" - MockRock
"Infinite Azure" - Tekken 7 OST
"Jump Up, Super Star!" - Super Mario Odyssey OST
"Bloody Tears/Monster Dance" - Castlevania OST (Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Remix)
"Mute City" - F-Zero OST (Super Smash Bros. Brawl Remix)
"Staff Roll" - Pokémon Sword and Shield OST
"Boss Battle 2" - Super Smash Bros. Brawl OST
"Multiplayer" - Metroid Prime 2: Echoes OST
"Lost in Thoughts All Alone" - Fire Emblem Fates OST (Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Remix)
"Stormy Saxophone Under the Moon" - SNK Heroines: Tag Team Frenzy OST
"Dark World" - Cadence of Hyrule OST
"Battle! (Battle Tower)" - Pokémon Sword and Shield OST
"Tournament" - Mario Tennis Aces OST
"PAC-MAN'S PARK/BLOCK TOWN" - Pac-Mania OST (Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Remix)
"Steam Gardens" - Super Mario Odyssey OST
"Gourmet Race" - Kirby Super Star OST (Super Smash Bros. Brawl Remix)
"Meta Knight's Revenge" - Kirby Super Star OST (Super Smash Bros. Brawl Remix)
"King Dedede Battle" - Kirby Star Allies OST
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@MockRockTalk
@MockRockTalk 2 года назад
Thanks for watching everyone! This one ended up being a bit of a beast to try and wrangle in, hopefully the time resulted in something fun. Also just a heads up that even as long as the video is, a lot of stuff still got cut (the one that has come up most often in the comments is the charged version of Blurring Blade). I actually did look at essentially every alternate form in the game and excluded some of them in editing if they didn't change my mind at all. In retrospect this isn't as obvious to viewers as it felt to me and in the future I'll probably be a bit more consistent. Let me know what you thought! *Main channel:* ru-vid.com *Twitter:* twitter.com/MrMockRock *Patreon:* www.patreon.com/mockrock *Twitch:* www.twitch.tv/mockrocktwitch *Teespring:* teespring.com/stores/mockrock *TimeBolt affiliate link* (excellent software I use to speed up editing on my videos, use code "MOCKROCK" for a discount): mockrock--timebolt.thrivecart.com/order-page/
@Brion15
@Brion15 2 года назад
Please make a video that goes in depth into banjos breegal blaster and include the technicality / usages if possible .
@ListlessWither
@ListlessWither 2 года назад
What about Cloud's limit Neutral B?
@thesandkingdom
@thesandkingdom 2 года назад
Lol u should use Plucking Tuilps as background song its so good
@supery.o.7249
@supery.o.7249 2 года назад
@@ListlessWither True
@johndorsey7890
@johndorsey7890 2 года назад
I’ve been looking forward for this! I can’t wait until he covers down specials lol
@Odyssey_Central
@Odyssey_Central 2 года назад
For Steve I would’ve personally considered the fact that the blocks change how they look/sound on some stages, along with the mining noises. It’s a great detail that I think moves it up to A tier
@jerryakatony5724
@jerryakatony5724 2 года назад
I Agree
@kir3795
@kir3795 2 года назад
bias but yeah its cool
@adv78
@adv78 2 года назад
Also the annimation accounts for mining in differents slopes and walls. Something we don't usually see because the only walls available are the stage itself
@jellycore1316
@jellycore1316 2 года назад
@@adv78 Good point! ^^
@ezrel6477
@ezrel6477 2 года назад
It's the one and only Odyssey Central! btw you have some of the best youtube content. #DryBonesForSmash
@shadowsableyexd2660
@shadowsableyexd2660 2 года назад
Kirby wearing Ness's hat backwards is a reference to the Yo-Yo copy ability in actual Kirby games, same reason his Link hat wasn't changed to BOTW Link!
@empressfrozentoes5285
@empressfrozentoes5285 Год назад
and it's because kirby's cool and needs to wear the hat as cool as possible
@mann-nova9392
@mann-nova9392 Год назад
Yeah but Link has less of an excuse since there's two more with almost the exact same hat
@fchef8370
@fchef8370 Год назад
I would have adored the Ness hat if Kirby got a random bandage on his face.
@placeadrien5566
@placeadrien5566 Год назад
Yes and the weird stance kirby takes when using bowser and charizard's fire breath are referencing the fire copy ability.
@JMERKIS
@JMERKIS 10 месяцев назад
It also differentiates from Diddy's forward red cap.
@theturtleking2454
@theturtleking2454 2 года назад
One thing I love about sephiroth neutral b is that the full charge dims the screen and even lowers the volume of the music. I don’t know of any other move that does that but it really emphasizes that there is a nuclear bomb you should probably pay attention to about to go off.
@Stupididiot-ci5gf
@Stupididiot-ci5gf Год назад
It's just so POWERFUL! Probably my favorite move in the game and what Sephiroth needed to really feel like a playable boss character.
@lulin2546
@lulin2546 Год назад
that is awesome
@eleeuroandoro3041
@eleeuroandoro3041 9 месяцев назад
Cloud's Limit moves do that too
@UsernameTheName
@UsernameTheName 6 дней назад
As an Isabelle main I love the fact that it does all that just for me to pocket it and for it to have no payoff
@CrazyHand7894
@CrazyHand7894 2 года назад
2:10:30 It's not just _any_ anime nonsense, it's a Kamehameha, which makes sense as both Hero and Goku are designed by Akira Toriyama.
@stonebrick1562
@stonebrick1562 2 года назад
In other words. It’s THE anime nonsense
@comboballer
@comboballer Год назад
Or hadoken
@rbexcess
@rbexcess Год назад
Amogus 👹👺👹👺👹🥵🥵🥵
@joaquinemiliolopezgarcia8181
@joaquinemiliolopezgarcia8181 3 месяца назад
He couldnt DI properly and is no longer among us 😔✊
@bokobo6295
@bokobo6295 2 года назад
Some stuff that didn’t get mentioned: - Palutena’s reticle is pulled straight from Kid Icarus Uprising, where it’s your main way of targeting. I only noticed this after playing Uprising, but it’s a fun detail - I never noticed Charizard drools onto the ground when he holds his mouth open for Flamethrower, gross! I like it! - The wire frame alt for Little Mac uses a much more retro sound, neat detail
@ezrel6477
@ezrel6477 2 года назад
I noticed that Palutena detail when I played SSB4 after playing uprising. Uprising is honestly one of my favorite games of all time.
@firstwaddledee9182
@firstwaddledee9182 2 года назад
Actually Bowser and Ridley also drool lava for Bowser’s neutral special and Ridley’s forward smash
@emanueltheodorus1056
@emanueltheodorus1056 2 года назад
I also noticed Chrom's particle effect building up from the base of his sword all the way to it's tip when it's charged, indicating the power of it.
@raffskid857
@raffskid857 2 года назад
Also mii sword fighters flaming sword thing can be charged
@lordfourth4th164
@lordfourth4th164 2 года назад
I noticed the drool while watching the vid. Was really wanting it to considerd
@FIamestalker
@FIamestalker 2 года назад
I think the main reason Mii Gunner's Gun isn't as animated as the ones from the space animals is because Mii Gunner has many different costumes with very different gun designs, having to add (different) details to all of those would be so much work i can understand why they didn't. This might also be why Charge Blast spawns the projectile so far away from the gun, its to accommodate for the different designs and lengths of the gun in all costumes, it probably looks better on the costumes with longer guns
@TheomanZero
@TheomanZero 2 года назад
I was thinking the same thing, but that doesn't justify the positioning being even worse on Kirby.
@ZX_STH
@ZX_STH 2 года назад
The Gaster Blaster
@ipawmzone8715
@ipawmzone8715 2 года назад
The Glaster Baster
@Baconator2558
@Baconator2558 2 года назад
The Gaster Blaster.
@mr.pibbeds9848
@mr.pibbeds9848 2 года назад
It does look better on the ones with longer guns, but not all of them... the cowboy suit for example makes it look kind of weird
@MoonGhostDoodles
@MoonGhostDoodles 2 года назад
MockRock: I'm not going to complicate myself by evaluating Min Min's Neutral Special for this list. Also MockRock: *Let's rank ALL of Kirby's Inhale Neutral Specials!*
@Justinr9171
@Justinr9171 2 года назад
!TIME STAMPS! 1:01 Kazuya 3:09 ROB 5:21 Fox 6:33 Falco 8:03 Wolf 10:04 Mario 11:53 Luigi 13:03 Doc Mario 14:12 Wario 16:30 Palutena 18:29 Pit 21:09 Dark Pit 22:02 Simon/Richter 23:50 Marth and Female Marth 27:27 Roy 29:02 Chrom 29:51 Ryu and Ken 30:51 Captain Falcon 32:56 Ness 34:14 Lucas 35:26 Pyra 36:20 Mythra 38:57 Squirtle 40:07 Ivysaur 41:08 Charizard 43:02 Bowser 44:08 Yoshi 45:11 Sonic 46:56 Donkey Kong 47:59 Diddy Kong 49:11 K Rool 50:28 Ice Climbers 51:16 Game and Watch 52:33 Snake 53:52 Cloud 55:27 Sephiroth 58:07 Mii Brawler 1:00:57 Mii Swordfighter 1:04:25 Mii Gunner 1:08:13 Samus 1:09:52 Dark Samus 1:10:30 Zero Suit Samus 1:11:47 Ridley 1:12:45 Jigglypuff 1:13:40 Ike 1:15:23 Byleth 1:17:02 Robin 1:19:41 Corrin 1:22:12 Terry 1:23:33 Olimar 1:25:20 Villager/Isabelle 1:27:18 Pikachu 1:27:43 Pichu 1:28:48 Sora 1:30:25 Link 1:31:39 Young Link 1:33:20 Toon Link 1:35:04 Mega Man 1:36:43 Peach 1:37:20 Daisy 1:38:31 Min Min 1:38:52 Steve 1:40:19 Zelda 1:41:42 Sheik 1:43:30 Ganondorf 1:45:30 Greninja 1:46:52 Incineroar 1:48:26 Mewtwo 1:50:31 Lucario 1:54:07 Bayonetta 1:55:33 Little Mac 1:57:32 Wii Fit Trainer 1:59:28 Rosalina and Luma 2:01:18 Inkling 2:02:38 Piranha Plant 2:03:40 Shulk 2:06:50 Pac-Man 2:08:26 Joker 2:09:53 Hero 2:12:13 Banjo and Kazooie 2:13:36 Bowser Jr. 2:15:19 Duck Hunt 2:16:23 Meta Knight 2:18:07 King Dedede 2:19:11 Kirby
@boonanaman7
@boonanaman7 2 года назад
you sir, are a level above us mortals
@randomOTHERSTUFFtuber
@randomOTHERSTUFFtuber Год назад
this only has 61 likes WHAT
@JacobPDeIiNoNi
@JacobPDeIiNoNi 2 года назад
For shulk's sword blade vs hand for buster and smash art, my interpretation is that for smash art, he's not powering up the blade itself, just swinging it with more power. Thus higher knockback, and it affects his hands. With buster, he makes the blade itself more deadly, so it does higher damage, but there's nothing different about his swing, so no extra knockback. It's like if you swung a baseball bat. Smash art makes him stronger so he can swing the bat harder, so his hands. Buster art is like attaching spikes to the bat so it does more damage.
@jonathanlgill
@jonathanlgill 2 года назад
It also helps the opponent--Smash is clearly the most threatening Monado Art they have to play around, and having the red glowing on his fists makes it very clear that he's in Smash Art.
@joey5745
@joey5745 2 года назад
I just made this comment but I think you explained it way better,
@adv78
@adv78 2 года назад
Also Buster Art in XC directly affects the Monado too, being an special attack that makes it bigger and does a lot of dmg, so buster "buff" is canonically in the sword itself. Tbh i would prefer if the Speed glow was in his legs while Jump in his feet so they would be all different, would make more sence too, since running fast is much more associated with leg strenght than feet.
@informationnotavailable6433
@informationnotavailable6433 2 года назад
This is actually really good explanation that makes a ton of sense, and I never thought of it. Thank you.
@Night_ssbu
@Night_ssbu 2 года назад
This interpretation Is not technically correct. What the mondo does is that it changes the physics and the properties of the universe so he is swing the blade the exact same way in smash art but the the that is changing is the universe itself making it do more knockback and less damage
@kirbyfan6949
@kirbyfan6949 2 года назад
Wow……that you would give Kirby THIS MUCH love at the end wasn’t what I expected. Your amazing for reviewing EVERY FRICKING ability
@MrFancyDragon
@MrFancyDragon 2 года назад
2:19:12 Gosh he really went overboard
@ethanhowe768
@ethanhowe768 2 года назад
I'd love to see a ranking of the idle animations. I always loved the amount of character that can be conveyed in the moments where you aren't even playing the game.
@ElecManEXE
@ElecManEXE 2 года назад
I agree that would be great. It's rare to see idles in a game like this where there's rarely a reason to just not be doing something.
@amaze_z1953
@amaze_z1953 2 года назад
Jigglypuff: 😰
@ethanhowe768
@ethanhowe768 2 года назад
@@amaze_z1953 Steve: 😐😑😐
@TheThirdPrice
@TheThirdPrice 2 года назад
@@ethanhowe768 you're right, S tier
@andymcclurg9916
@andymcclurg9916 2 года назад
Sonic: ...
@treese_
@treese_ 2 года назад
Fun fact: Wii Fit Trainer's Sun Salutation is unique in that it is the only move in the entire game that deals "Solar" damage, which is an on-hit visual effect similar to fire or lighting attacks, only instead it surrounds the opponent with those little circular lense flares.
@jcplays5831
@jcplays5831 2 года назад
Link’s bowstring pull grip is used for compound bows. This is used to pull the bow even further back since compound bows have string on flywheels. It’s basically showing Link is pulling the bow back for even more power
@brandonlee8123
@brandonlee8123 2 года назад
I know nothing about archery, but just from looking at the more sideways angle of the bow, i feel like aiming would be easier with link’s grip.
@RadiantBlaze
@RadiantBlaze Год назад
@@brandonlee8123 Not really, aiming isn't really done with the drawhand, it's just power as JC Plays said
@edmpunkfire7793
@edmpunkfire7793 Год назад
Yeah, I had experience with compound bows and you have to really pull back to give the shot more power
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 Год назад
Weird because Link doesn't use a compound bow... and he also doesn't do that in the actual Zelda games either, even in Botw.
@jcplays5831
@jcplays5831 Год назад
@@lasercraft32 I do see that, but this is a video game with video game physics. Link’s bow is able to stretch an unrealistic amount, so why not give him the bow grip that gives the shot some of the most power
@samanthashelly9947
@samanthashelly9947 2 года назад
30:15 Not to be a super mega nerd but in Street Fighter lore it's explained that a Hadouken is not actually a fireball, instead it's pure force. It's essentially just a ranged punch, which is why it's always used basic hit sound effects
@inertjohnjunk
@inertjohnjunk 2 года назад
You missed the fact that Peach and Daisy's NSpecial animations are subtly different. Peach cowers behind Toad and looks up when it's done to see if it's safe again. Daisy on the other hand just covers her ears and stands back up as if nothing's wrong.
@Empy_C.
@Empy_C. Год назад
🤓
@Moon-nk3co
@Moon-nk3co 2 года назад
Hey MockRock. I don’t know if you know this, but the Hexagonal design of Lucas’ PSI is in reference to how Mother 3 does its PSI attacks. It’s kind of carried over for the two of them. I also really liked how you pointed out the design of Wolf’s blaster, didn’t realize it has a second hit.
@ezrel6477
@ezrel6477 2 года назад
The second hit does a lot for it, I consider it one of the best projectiles in the game.
@mettatonex7221
@mettatonex7221 2 года назад
The melee attack on Wolf's firearm is a lot more obvious in Brawl, because in that game it looked like he was attacking just by pulling out the gun, where it doesn't come across as much in Ultimate.
@Scouthedog1
@Scouthedog1 2 года назад
This video came out for the perfect time for me as I was in a hotel struggling for entertainment so I just pinned watched all of this though I was wondering why there was so much of the video left when you did the last character only to find out you were doing all the Kirby hats
@dmign
@dmign 2 года назад
thanks for the unprompted blogposting.
@Lyralovecraft
@Lyralovecraft 2 года назад
Massive props for ranking all the inhale abilities, that seems like a nightmare. But it means we get to hear kirby's voicelines, so it's a win in my book.
@logangiddings7166
@logangiddings7166 2 года назад
Mockrock: Says the word "Sorry" during the intro. Me: Is violently reminded that he's Canadian.
@joey5745
@joey5745 2 года назад
I work with a Canadian, the dude can’t go five minutes without saying it, lol
@YaHomieScooty
@YaHomieScooty 2 года назад
I always thought Toad pepper sprayed the opponent. The fact that he shoots out his own spores as a counter attack is pretty cool…and a little creepy
@MockRockTalk
@MockRockTalk 2 года назад
I like the implication that real world self-defence weapons exist in the Mario universe you're going for though
@1dayago843
@1dayago843 2 года назад
I believe you misinterpreted Wolf's recoil animation, it is in fact there it's just that he keeps the recoil energy into the blaster itself hence the huge swing up. The reason why Fox and Falco's body moves back a little is because they're holding the blaster steady so the recoil energy transfers into their body more just so they can keep their aim. Wolf uses the blaster's recoil to his advantage as he also uses it as an attack with the blade.
@colecostie
@colecostie Год назад
Also wolf's leg turns back with the blaster recoil to keep steady.
@browk2512
@browk2512 Год назад
I also really like how the whole world goes dark when sephiroth's gigaflare gets launched
@DecafPotato
@DecafPotato 2 года назад
Three hours. Wow. Also I do agree that R.O.B.'s base level charge is more satisfying than his fully charged one, lol.
@Mr_Mimestamp
@Mr_Mimestamp 2 года назад
It continues to be inspiring to see how much effort you put into what you consider your “more casual” channel, seeing a nearly three-hour fully edited video here was totally unexpected.
@adjectiveobject7686
@adjectiveobject7686 2 года назад
I don't know if anyone's said it, but I love Kirby's backward hat when he inhales Ness. It's a reference to the hat he gets for the yoyo ability in the Kirby games, which is in itself a reference to Ness' main weapon.
@MudFan
@MudFan 2 года назад
Two things: Little Mac has a unique animation for when he uses his neutral B in the air, he awkwardly gets lunged with a shocked expression, it's amazing. Kirby's Bowser animation is a reference to his Fire ability.
@Luigiofthegods
@Luigiofthegods 2 года назад
8:21 "The bayonet causes damage" *damages Bayonetta*
@mattguy1773
@mattguy1773 2 года назад
I love how Nintendo didn’t try to sugar coat jokers gun and just called it gun
@CheeseBlaster
@CheeseBlaster 2 года назад
Kirby not changing impressions while using Giant Punch fits him so much because he has "not having a single idea of what's currently happening" feeling to him all the time
@username3624
@username3624 2 года назад
Luigi’s fireballs could also be a reference to how the fireballs are in Mario Bros, where they’re both green in color and travel in an arc unaffected by gravity.
@CrazyHand7894
@CrazyHand7894 2 года назад
I can guess who'll go into A or S tier: Captain Falcon, Kirby and King K Rool.
@99wins31
@99wins31 2 года назад
Falcon and Kirby are obvious
@shanealic7426
@shanealic7426 2 года назад
Captain falcon shit suck
@minionmunch5610
@minionmunch5610 2 года назад
K Rool clearly
@miles4100
@miles4100 2 года назад
mewtwo gotta be S
@davehollis5816
@davehollis5816 2 года назад
@@miles4100 RIP
@stormRed
@stormRed 2 года назад
Just so you know, you're definitely one of my favorite youtubers, and I watch a lot! Every single new video is like a little treat 😄
@OrigamiAhsoka
@OrigamiAhsoka 2 года назад
I’ve always thought Luigi was doing a gun pose as if he was shooting off the fireball Also absolute mad respect for doing every single one of Kirby’s
@Tahmis_Googboi
@Tahmis_Googboi 2 года назад
Dang, what an incredibly thorough video. Absolutely worth every minute of its run time. Well done! Just a couple notes: - The charge-up to DK’s punch actually spins faster towards the end. It’s a nice touch in line with moves like Shuriken of Light that accelerate, but this is also how the move looked in, of all things, Subspace Emissary. The way DK swings his arm when he’s about to punch Diddy out of harm’s way is strangely reminiscent of this Ultimate animation in a way I love. - Kinda bothered by how much of Rosalina’s face is covered during her charge-up. I wish her body and head tilted backwards or more towards camera, so that we can see her one eye during more of the charge-up than just the very end. - In Xenoblade, Monado Enchant (which despite the name, seems to be what Buster is based on) is an effect placed on Shulk and his allies’ weapons, to let them cut through enemies their gear otherwise bounces off of. As a result, I kinda like Buster only lighting up the sword and not the hands, like Smash. - Kinda wish Kirby got plush Pikmin in the same vein as the plush Kazooie. Maybe for other moves, too? - Like you said about White Kirby with Robin’s copy ability, I think a couple skins kinda make it harder to look at certain animations. As cool as the Dark Link skins are, for example, almost everything is the same shade that it’s easy to look at it all as one blob. It’s also really easy to miss how Toon Link’s bow goes straight into his front foot this way, too. - Huge agree on Daisy. Why DIDN’T they give her a Shy Guy or something instead of Toad? Maybe make her look more like she’s sending them forward instead of cowering? - Not enough love given to the smooth animation transition from unshaved MockRock to shaved MockRock. Very nice swap from one to the other, and the coffee mug on Frame 3+ really helps hide the missing facial hair. Good sound design on the sip, too.
@marzipancutter8144
@marzipancutter8144 Год назад
There's only one kazooie, but there's plenty real Pikmin and Lumas so I don't think they need to be plushies on Kirby. would be a nice touch though, since they die after use.
@art2norrman872
@art2norrman872 2 года назад
Fun little detail about Shulk. The sound effect you hear when you switch from one Monado art to another when using the wheel, is the exactly the same sound that you can hear in Xenoblade chronicles when switching arts in battle UI
@maxblack2347
@maxblack2347 2 года назад
Love that Kirby practically goes into the splits when doing Roy's and Chrom's neutral special
@silikerYT
@silikerYT 2 года назад
No mention of gigaflare darkening the screen? that's my favorite thing about it
@DoMorrMusic
@DoMorrMusic 2 года назад
For his neutral special, MockRock wields Talk. Which becomes Gun when subscribed.
@ngc_3877
@ngc_3877 2 года назад
Something I noticed about Charizard is that there's a little drool effect where small droplets drip onto the ground beneath his mouth if you look closely enough. Kinda gross, but also kinda cool I guess. Same with Bowser as well.
@fight_and_die1573
@fight_and_die1573 2 года назад
I think they’re meant to be sort of fire sparks? They seem to be coming from the flames not exactly dripping from their mouths
@MaxJFT
@MaxJFT 2 года назад
I absolutely love how there's a liquid dripping from charizard's mouth during flamethrower
@celesteschott6030
@celesteschott6030 2 года назад
My one complaint with Hero's Kafrizz is that the lingering fire effects on the ground look like they should be dealing damage if an enemy touches them.
@dextra_24703
@dextra_24703 2 года назад
the grip link uses isn´t in breath of the wild, there he puts between the middle and ring finger while pulling with all four fingers in smash he uses the index and middle finger to pull the string back and yes he does it with his back of the hand towards the face in Breath of the wild aswell. also link is preparing to land with the forward foot first in the air animation.
@LukasArailiys
@LukasArailiys 2 года назад
Greninja canonically does pull water from his “leg sacks” as you put it, but in his home game, he’s supposed to throw one at a time as a 2-5 hit move, not enlarge them in his hands.
@wozaow
@wozaow 2 года назад
Yeah, I think the giant ones are in reference to Ash-Greninja from both the anime and the Sun/Moon Special Demo, but even then you don’t charge them up.
@LukasArailiys
@LukasArailiys 2 года назад
@@wozaow Not to mention that Ash-Greninja came out 2 years after Smash 4
@plechtorix
@plechtorix Год назад
In the anime when Greninja uses Water Shuriken he sometimes put them together. The most notable time is when Frogadier evolves into Greninja in the anime.
@Azurald55
@Azurald55 Год назад
I feel like the emphasis on using it for this move was because Greninja is making a unique shape for the shuriken by imprinting it. It makes sense given how Greninja was added in smash as well as all his attacks besides neutral b weren't kunais.
@ElecManEXE
@ElecManEXE 2 года назад
One minor thing that really bugs me about Bowser Jr's cannon is that they didn't use the super distinctive "ba-Boom" cannon sound effect from the cannons in the airships of the Mario games or bullet bills. Even though they don't always use that sound effect in all the modern Mario games I think it would have added a lot of character to the move similar to Mario's fireball having the old-school fireball sounds from Mario games.
@Baconator2558
@Baconator2558 2 года назад
Odyssey actually has a very good rendition of it, which would have been a good fit.
@alaaiskamalji5064
@alaaiskamalji5064 2 года назад
The fact that you went over every Kirby copy ability is why I always say you deserve way more subscribers. Thank you for your great work, my favorite RU-vidr!!
@bsg-jay7093
@bsg-jay7093 2 года назад
The simple Mii Gunner Laser is probably more because of all the costumes they can wear.
@hyperdeath6006
@hyperdeath6006 Год назад
These have been a real amazing series and I enjoy getting to see the animations in more detail and hear them discussed, keep it up man
@arojamthearbiter
@arojamthearbiter Год назад
The whole Kirby segment at the end was one of the greatest things I've ever seen in a video
@vikingswirlix6947
@vikingswirlix6947 2 года назад
I really hope this becomes a long-standing series. It's SOOO good to just put on in the background and chill with while I write or work.
@nukeswithken5718
@nukeswithken5718 2 года назад
Loved this, wasn’t expecting the Kirby section to be so robust, so I had a good laugh with it. I always like seeing Mockrock’s analyses, can’t wait for the next one
@cryptex8398
@cryptex8398 2 года назад
Amazing video Mock! I didn't watch much of your content before this series, but discussing animation like this drew me right in, keep up the good work!
@adv78
@adv78 2 года назад
Incredible video and i just can't het my head around all the work you put in for a MockRockTalk video. Getting through generally the most important important/iconic move of every character and analyzing with such attention to detail, and even going through all kirby costumes certainly required a lot of effort, specially for an second channel upload. Goes to show how you care for the quality of your content, even in a laid back format. The video was a lot of fun and go easy in the next episode in this series. Maybe an tilt or something ;)
@JacobPDeIiNoNi
@JacobPDeIiNoNi 2 года назад
I thoroughly disagree about corrin's dragon mask, I think how over-the-top it is perfectly suits the dragon abilities and because of that it's one of my favorite kirby hats. It makes him look like some world-destroying ball of death. It's a mess but I think that's kind of the point, to give off a bit of eldritch horror vibes. But that'll just be different opinions
@anankos795
@anankos795 2 года назад
I agree. Corrin’s pretty much the cronenberg of the roster, and I think that applying the dragon “helmet” onto Kirby highlights just how bizarre Corrin’s anatomy really is.
@corrinfevincenohr
@corrinfevincenohr 2 года назад
@@anankos795 I also agree. The Corrin hat is one of the best if not the best Kirby hats in the game. The dragon form mask fits perfectly with Kirby and Im very happy they implemented the mask instead of hair. Also hello there Anankos. Been a while, fellow Corrin propagandist ;)
@tehesprite502
@tehesprite502 2 года назад
Especially given the final boss's design, it's 10000000% supposed to be eldritch horror vibes.
@mettatonex7221
@mettatonex7221 2 года назад
I don't really like the design of the complete dragon transformation of Corrin, I think it has bizarre proportions, its limbs bend it weird ways, and its overall too scraggly to pass off as powerful as it is, plus it's missing a lot of the bits that are used from Corrin's dragon fang moves. I do think the head looks pretty cool, but I also see where Mock is coming from; my main issue is that it doesn't look like the head of a sentient being, more like the helmet that a Power Rangers villain would wear. If they were smitten with the general body type of full-dragon Corrin, I would have gone with a design more along the lines of Arceus or Dialga from Pokemon. Having said all of this, just from a purely visual and conceptual standpoint, I think Corrin is the coolest Fire Emblem character on the roster; almost all of her attacks involving the dragon fang are incredible looking, and her Omega Yato sword attacks aren't bad either. Personal favorites being her chainsaw-to-piercing stab Forward Smash, her graceful yet powerful wing bash Back Aerial, and her incredibly monstrous Dragon Fang Shot.
@JacobPDeIiNoNi
@JacobPDeIiNoNi 2 года назад
@@mettatonex7221 yeah your power rangers comparison is very accurate. And I understand not liking how scrawny the dragon form looks, although for me that’s part of the appeal, it makes it appear almost like a skeleton especially with the detached lower jaw which just adds to the weirdness and creepiness. Also, Im pretty sure the design is based on a Kirin, which is a mythological creature with elements of both deer and dragons. Which would explain the weird leg angles, they seem to be deer-like, as well as the horns on the mask. It’s a strange design that’s for sure
@TheAntiburglar
@TheAntiburglar 2 года назад
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NEW SERIES! Edit: as a classically and historically trained fencer in Italian and Spanish rapier (among other weapons) the Shieldbreaker animations hurt my soul :p Also I laughed aloud at the Falcon Punch XD
@MockRockTalk
@MockRockTalk 2 года назад
Lol, I'd imagine it hurts you more than it hurts me. And it hurts me just fine.
@rouge939
@rouge939 2 года назад
This video is as long as Sonic Forces
@TheLuluBoyo
@TheLuluBoyo 2 года назад
The sound of your absolutely tired voice with the deep-fried effect explaining Inhale going into S-Tier both scared me slightly and made me bust out laughing. Absolutely hilarious way to end the video. Awesome video in general, keep up the awesome work!
@diegovaldez927
@diegovaldez927 2 года назад
1:03:00 if you're wandering why does it do 14% it's because you can charge the move and it's basically like Pyra neutral b but stronger and only hits one side
@marzipancutter8144
@marzipancutter8144 Год назад
It's more like Mythras, really, because you can also change the direction you attack at the end of the charge.
@benro6564
@benro6564 2 года назад
Jesus Christ 3 hour long video... Let's be honest Falcon should have his own tier. It is the most iconic move in smash and one of the most memorable in the FGC as a whole, and the fact that it was made without any source material is kind of a miracle. It rivals stuff like Akuma's raging demon in how badass it is. Fatality (the best Ultimate Falcon) once said that even though Falcon punch sucks he wouldn't trade it for anything
@willy.b2419
@willy.b2419 2 года назад
Ew, another Bowser main
@cpwalker0429
@cpwalker0429 2 года назад
Incredible video, loved how you dealt with Kirby at the end, awesome end
@CatsLilaSalem
@CatsLilaSalem 2 года назад
Very interesting, and the way you are analysing we can see a lot of little details which is great
@airlock7367
@airlock7367 2 года назад
A couple points of kirby hat trivia: -There's actually a character who wears that exact Lucario hat in Pokémon Battle Revolution, so that's a pretty nifty touch -The plush/hand puppet Kazooie is actually also seen in Banjo-Tooie, where it's used in multiplayer versions of the minigames; for the FPS-mode ones, it's what characters other than Banjo use in lieu of a live Kazooie to shoot eggs with (also, I feel like that thing Greninja is doing -- which also a canon animation -- is less actually drawing water from its legs than just mimicking the motions of a ninja pulling shurikens out of their pants)
@PaBlo-jk4hv
@PaBlo-jk4hv Год назад
I've always thought that the shurikens came from those star shapes in its legs
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 Год назад
The shurikens DO come from those star shapes, but in actual Pokemon, Greninja just shoots multiple water shurikens instead of it being a charging thing.
@odysseysfortune537
@odysseysfortune537 Год назад
Leaving comment for the algo. I LOVE this series, so interesting to watch the little details they put into such critical parts of the game. And when I realized that only three characters were left, that there were 30 minutes left, and that one of those characters was Kirby… Can’t believe you actually ranked them all, didn’t even notice how cute Kirby sounds making those voice lines. Wonderful work.
@nabbitling2109
@nabbitling2109 Год назад
Something about MockRock saying “Good morning” after taking a sip of coffee is funny and weirdly comforting
@samuelmagyar1488
@samuelmagyar1488 2 года назад
I love videos like these, it's nice being able to appreciate more of the smaller details in ultimate
@MrBda241
@MrBda241 2 года назад
Amazing video, love the dedication that went into this. Have you considered doing a video about the character's victory screen? I believe it would be fun, though it would rely on you knowing each of the characters personality, history (w/ Game history too) and the likes.
@Hyp3rDJ
@Hyp3rDJ 2 года назад
Found out about you through your front smash animation tier list, and am now knowingly subbing to your second channel before your first channel because I love this series so much
@arciabrats5897
@arciabrats5897 2 года назад
I'm pretty Luigi's L finger is actually him snapping and pointing for his fire ball to attack, kind of like he's commanding it to go forth.
@GohTheGreat
@GohTheGreat 2 года назад
As one of two swordfighter mains, Blurring Blade can be held for a stronger startup/chamber animation
@brottsauce8942
@brottsauce8942 2 года назад
Really love these videos, great way to pass time at work, thanks for putting in all the work!
@alaaiskamalji5064
@alaaiskamalji5064 2 года назад
amazing work on this video, love these so much
@matlotl
@matlotl 2 года назад
You forgot about the pits' aiming upwards! It transitions between the sideways and upwards positions well and is just fun to mess around with midmatch. Also, why gunner's cannon doesn't have any flaps or steam etc. moving is likely cus the cannon changes per costume, and none of them share the exact same features so they have to go with a default "no extra animations" sadly. Would look odd if cuphead's finger started smoking from flaps that don't exist, you know?
@MotherBurrito
@MotherBurrito 2 года назад
lol what did bullet seed do to this man. all jokes aside I love this series, it feels like peak game dev appreciation hours and it makes me realize how much love was put into even the tiniest poses and movements. I would love to see Back Airs, it’s such an odd move that every character uses differently and I could see that being really fun to analyze!
@lostmosscostFAUST6671
@lostmosscostFAUST6671 2 года назад
Watching mockrock rapid fire Kirby inhales is one of the best things I've seen on RU-vid. Followed by him being done for the night was also hilarious. Good stuff.
@Alex-hg7ek
@Alex-hg7ek 2 года назад
This feels more like a stream than a video lol. I love all the effort you put into your vids mock! Fantastic job.
@Andreecals
@Andreecals 2 года назад
I think you should've mentioned how ridley's plasma breath has an animation for when he's interrupted during the charge, which is taken from the original games and is super interesting! Still watching though, what a behemoth of a video!
@meta4knight
@meta4knight 2 года назад
I think back throws would be really cool, they often have really strong animations. Krool back throw is amazing
@thomasfan8889
@thomasfan8889 2 года назад
4 days late but glad I finally got around to seeing it. I’m definitely interested in seeing the differences in more uniformed move slots though (similar to forward smash video, moves that are mostly suppose to do the same thing) as I think that yields interesting results. That said, I love this video and it was pulled amazingly! I’m still a large supporter of the idea of using these videos to tally up character results to find who your theoretical favorite character in Smash should be… and how it compares to your actual favorite character and why it doesn’t 1-to-1 translate. I think that would be such a fun essay video, and it could work well on your main channel, and it also promotes this channel!
@opal8434
@opal8434 2 года назад
I believe Kirby's baseball cap being backwards after inhaling Ness is intended to be a reference to the Wheel ability from his home series, where he similarly dons a backwards baseball cap.
@dextra_24703
@dextra_24703 2 года назад
the animation of greninja touching the crosses on the legs happens even in pokemon if you look at the animation in gameplpay with the bad camera cuts, in the anime i think its sometimes ignored for the sake of animation, there he also charges it by just pure willpower in the champion finals match.
@arthurvergolino6859
@arthurvergolino6859 2 года назад
roy's feet pretty much serves as a indicator point to where the explosion willa ctualyl take place. its why it is stretched out like that, so the player can know that the hitbox is a bit more pushed forward compared to the other moves of the character that have pretty close hitboxes. its also the reason why he holds his feet like that in the air. looks a bit unnatural with the step back? yea. makes sense, if you consider he is meassuring his reach? also yes.
@mr.cereal599
@mr.cereal599 2 года назад
Kirby's backwards hat as Ness and the one-footed pose when he uses Bowser's fire breath are both references to copy abilities in Kirby (yo-yo and fire respectively).
@coochblaster7815
@coochblaster7815 2 года назад
Like always great stuff, thanks for the quality content man
@jaredparks4713
@jaredparks4713 2 года назад
Funny you mentioned Sora's voice acting, the voice clips they used are from Dream Drop Distance and IMO those are his worst voice lines by a huge margin.
@vo117man
@vo117man 2 года назад
1:51:15 Perhaps the designers of Lucario's animation chose him to have a preferred side is relative to actual fighters being either orthodox (right hand dominant), or south paw (left hand dominant), with Lucario being partially a Fighting Type and the only fighting type playable Pokémon in Smash. In this case, Lucario favors an orthodox stance. Maybe a further analysis on his attacks can help clarify how well this theory holds up.
@thiscommenter180
@thiscommenter180 2 года назад
Hope these are getting the attention they deserve - you got some really nice commentary
@squee-g1658
@squee-g1658 2 года назад
Fun fact: Kirby's stance with bowser's hat is a reference to the stance he does when he's fire kirby in his own series
@chickensquared140
@chickensquared140 2 года назад
Dark Samus better be getting a high tier. That animation looks absolutely immaculate
@cloudx8015
@cloudx8015 2 года назад
For Mythra, while charging the move, you can see ether lines become more visible on her body as she charges the moves. They’re more noticiable on her legs if you’re using a skin with darker leggings. Dunno why they didn’t do something similar for Pyra.
@Night_ssbu
@Night_ssbu 2 года назад
It's because lighting buster is mythra's level 3 special in the game for all level 3 specials you can see the ether lines on the blades you can see the ether lines on her side b blazing end which is her level 3 in the game
@angeldude101
@angeldude101 Год назад
This was ripped from from the original game where the ether lines show up for all level 3 and 4 specials, which means Mythra's neutral-B, Pyra's side-B, and their Final Smashes. I love that they included this touch in Smash. It's extremely subtle, but it just adds that little extra bit of uniqueness to go with their more sci-fi aesthetic compared to other sword fighters. There's also a shine attached to the sword's Core Crystal, aligned with its orientation which gets more intense the longer the attack is charged, which I also love.
@seansquiers6506
@seansquiers6506 2 года назад
I've learned a lot more about animation than I ever thought I would from your videos.
@wedoofficial4333
@wedoofficial4333 2 года назад
The amount of work that went into this is incredible. Huge respect, loved it so much
@mbot1901
@mbot1901 2 года назад
1:03:47 Just wanted to point out here that this move is chargeable and I wanted to know if you had just forgotten about it or just found it not important enough to comment on? Either way I love this video, especially as an aspiring animator and smash fan Edit: 1:05:52 I'd imagine they didn't bother animating the default gun option when the character's outfit is fully customizable Edit 2: Very specific detail but I really like how when villager takes an Item out of their pocket and not a projectile they'll do the same animation from animal crossing, its just very cute Edit 3: 1:45:56 This is actually an odd detail lifted from the anime but Greninja actually makes the water shurikens in the shape of the shuriken pattern on its legs, not the sacs of water, so basically Greninja's using them as a mold. Either was it's super cool looking Edit 4 (holy crap this comment is long wow sorry): Another really cool detail I want to point out is for mac's KO punch, during the wind up, it almost looks like he might be feinting a straight punch and then coming in for the uppercut at the last second which is not only really cool if true, but also explains why it goes through shield
@Ifgodscouldbleed70times
@Ifgodscouldbleed70times 2 года назад
I think wolf's problem with his laser is that he stops to 'aim' it but only for like that instant so it really just makes it feel weaker.
@gambadrawing5669
@gambadrawing5669 2 года назад
So glad to see another episode of this. Hope it continues.
@jactotum
@jactotum 2 года назад
i'll like the video in approximately three hours but just wanna say i love your content man you've been doing a great job
@solomeoparedes8162
@solomeoparedes8162 2 года назад
You missed a neat detail in Mythra's Lighting buster. It lights up her ether lines, since lighting buster is her lvl 3 Blade combo, Pyra's flame nova dosen't do this, Blazing End does. The ether lines are a grat nod to xenoblade 2, but i wish they would pop up more, just like in the original game, they really glow in there.
@angeldude101
@angeldude101 Год назад
They only appear during level 3 and 4 specials in the base game, which is why Smash only has them for Mythra's neutral-B, Pyra's side-B, and their Final Smashes.
@Mark---W
@Mark---W 2 года назад
Sephiroth neutral Special is just something Godly anime like attack.
@russellwilson136
@russellwilson136 2 года назад
I love all the love and effort put into this video. Well done!
@Jinxypoo100
@Jinxypoo100 2 года назад
The amount of detail in your videos are amazing 💕💕💕
@jswayne7546
@jswayne7546 2 года назад
As someone who goes into Training Mode just to look at animations, I would love to see this as a series.
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