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10 Historically Accurate AoE2 units 

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Sometimes Age of Empires 2 stretches the truth a bit for the sake of gameplay, but other times what seem like crazy units are surprisingly historically accurate. Those are the sorts of units we're going to include in this list!
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@soacnsmiley3718
@soacnsmiley3718 25 дней назад
"FRANKLY" A LITTLE ABSURD LMAOOOOOO
@omargoodman2999
@omargoodman2999 25 дней назад
The _Gaul_ of him to make such a pun...
@TheSaxRunner05
@TheSaxRunner05 25 дней назад
It was a berry good pun
@not_milk
@not_milk 25 дней назад
Came to the comments to make sure someone said this
@cougareinfeldt7427
@cougareinfeldt7427 25 дней назад
Dang you beat me to it!
@IshaanNyatiJi
@IshaanNyatiJi 24 дня назад
Literally opened the comments section to write this. 🙈
@jotfohm4644
@jotfohm4644 25 дней назад
Nothing you say Mr.Spirit say can hide the fact our boi the Teutonic Knight is the most historically accurate unit ever.
@JOTrx-ib5su
@JOTrx-ib5su 25 дней назад
Deus Vult!
@Randleray
@Randleray 25 дней назад
Generally speaking the guy is accurate but in one point. The Teutons were one of the first two germanic tribes that started to cross through the roman defences in central Europe in massive groups. The Teutonic order has almost nothing to do with them but the name. And those knights normally went into battle on horse. They were basically the french nobility, aka classic knights, on steroids. Compared to most units on this list, the teutons are surprisingly inaccurate in their depiction in the game ^^'
@etuanno
@etuanno 25 дней назад
​@@RandlerayIf I'm not wrong knights sometimes dismounted and fought in a formation.
@lagg1e
@lagg1e 25 дней назад
@@Randleray The teutons in the game are a catch all for several eras of german duchies and kingdoms. The teutonic knights are I believe quite accurate to the crusades, specifically under Barbarossa. They went on the journey with horses, but by the time they reached the holy land, they lost them to injury and exhaustion.
@ahbraveconscript997
@ahbraveconscript997 25 дней назад
not all heroes wear capes. but these ones do.
@hecksters423
@hecksters423 25 дней назад
Honorable mention goes to the Janissaries: Elite units of the Ottoman Empire, who DO have firearms as a weapon. The in-game models, however, have beards which, around the time of AoE2 representation, were not allowed to have facial hair. I'd rate about 9 out of 10 forcibly captured slaves.
@llSuperSnivyll
@llSuperSnivyll 25 дней назад
Although, AFAIK, they were primarily using bows at the timeframe of this game.
@Toonrick12
@Toonrick12 25 дней назад
Didn't the hats also not come until later?
@sauravtripathi4128
@sauravtripathi4128 25 дней назад
"forcibly captured" slaves... I am not sure if happily accepting slaves ever existed.
@robertlewis6915
@robertlewis6915 25 дней назад
@@sauravtripathi4128 Actually, the institution of debt slavery (sometimes to a more prosperous family member as recompense for them paying your debt) and similar forms of semi-voluntary slavery are a part of many historical cultures.
@markburke1396
@markburke1396 25 дней назад
@@Toonrick12 Fun fact, Originally AOE developers gave them the large white hats, but marketing didn't think it was a good idea. I forget exactly why, I think was in relation to KKK and they looked to similar to that. so they removed them. but you can still find the hat wearing Janissary in the Editor.
@Thescott16
@Thescott16 25 дней назад
Fun Fact about the Flemish Militia's weapon, the "Goedendag": The reason it's called "Goedendag" (literally meaning "good day" as a greeting) is because Flemish revolutionaries would travel around carrying these weapons and casually greet people they met... And if the person replied with a French accent, the revolutionaries would attack them. It was a test to try and sniff out all of the French to drive them out of the country by vibe-checking them.
@CBRN-115
@CBRN-115 25 дней назад
Naming a weapon as "hello" is part funny, intimidating in an odd way and kinda badass
@Thescott16
@Thescott16 25 дней назад
@@CBRN-115 "I said 'good day', sir!"
@nathangamble125
@nathangamble125 25 дней назад
@@Thescott16 I think the ending of the Willy Wonka movie would have been much better if Wonka had beaten Grandpa Joe to death with a big stick because he didn't reply with a Dutch accent.
@lightworker2956
@lightworker2956 25 дней назад
Indeed, and spirit of the law isn't saying "goedendag" with a proper Dutch accent. French man detected! Good day, sir!
@allahdoesnotexist3823
@allahdoesnotexist3823 25 дней назад
SCHILD EN VRIEND
@ethribin4188
@ethribin4188 25 дней назад
The power of the turtleship, being an unboardable ship, was compounded by 2 things. First, the Japanese at the time did naval battle near exclusivly by boarding. And the fact that korean warships were cannon and range specialized. Thus, a ship, that was unboardable, but could keep japanese warship out of range of the korean warships, was an extreemly deadly combo. It was basically the naval equivalent of a tank taunting the raid boss/hoard, while the rogues, spellcasters and rangers killed the boss/hoard from range.
@FranklinW
@FranklinW 16 дней назад
People sometimes express skepticism over the idea that the Korean navy lost no ships during that war, but it makes a lot more sense when you realize that the Korean and Japanese had extremely different kinds of navies and that they basically hard-countered the Japanese ships.
@TheZombifiedGuy
@TheZombifiedGuy 25 дней назад
4:25 missed opportunity to say rat-tan out of ten
@PHONEyah
@PHONEyah 25 дней назад
unsubbed
@BurniOwnz
@BurniOwnz 25 дней назад
3:45 That is one jacked basket weaver, Jesus.
@DarkSoul1992
@DarkSoul1992 25 дней назад
If you look at his daughter in a wrong way, he prolly weaves you lol
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 25 дней назад
To be fair, said basket weaver may also have other, heavier jobs, like construction workery, fishing, and materials carrying.
@peterlynchchannel
@peterlynchchannel 22 дня назад
@@michaelandreipalon359 Or being an Instagram influencer who works out and weaves baskets.
@aretiredsubberl7036
@aretiredsubberl7036 25 дней назад
Turtle ship is my favourite, they look awesome and most importantly, they're even more broken irl. lmaooo
@jotfohm4644
@jotfohm4644 25 дней назад
10 strongly worded PETA letters! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@SchemingGoldberg
@SchemingGoldberg 25 дней назад
What's PETA going to do? Euthanize millions of innocent pets?
@emilsoderman3691
@emilsoderman3691 25 дней назад
The Virgin AOE: "Flemish revolution is so controversial!" The Chad AOE3: "Let's have Mexico have revolutions inside their revolutions!"
@ArturoLopez-ly2pn
@ArturoLopez-ly2pn 11 дней назад
Hey! Those revolutions within revolutions are historically accurate!
@emilsoderman3691
@emilsoderman3691 11 дней назад
@@ArturoLopez-ly2pn I know! That's the best part!
@beelsmaxime7660
@beelsmaxime7660 24 дня назад
As someone who grew up in Kortrijk (where the battle of the Golden Spurs was fought) it always makes me proud to see it mentioned.
@christopherg2347
@christopherg2347 24 дня назад
- The Obuch in game is similar to a Bec de Corbin. A hammer side to knock out/down heavily armored foes. A pointy side to hit them in a armor weakspot once they were down or even while still standing. - The Battle of the Golden Spurs is a classical example of french knights "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory". By being arrogant glory seekers. The Flemish were way too focused on anti-cavalry and slowly loosing to the infantry. The knights wanting glory called back the infantry and charged in - to their defeat. - the Romans tried using burning pigs against pyrrhus war elephants, among many other early ideas.
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor 25 дней назад
I went to highschool with a guy from Cambodia. I was reading the AoE wiki page for Ballista Elephants and he saw it and proudly mentioned how they were used by the Khmer. To this day, they're still my favourite civ. *LONG LIVE BALLISTA ELEPHANTS!*
@asevado
@asevado 25 дней назад
13:18 the irony of Spirit of the Law including a picture of Lucy Lawless...
@solsunman383
@solsunman383 25 дней назад
Stupidly one of my local museums in Oxford, the Pitt Rivers Museum, in it's section on foreign weaponry, it included a doll of Xena warrior princess to show "modern representation of this weaponry". I remember looking at it and laughing. That whole museum is just absolutely absurd now. (There's a bunch of other really stupid things in what is a museum that is trying so hard to take itself seriously.)
@drandersjiang
@drandersjiang 25 дней назад
The Romance of Three Kingdom mentions the effectiveness of rattan shield ("vine armor") when Zhuge Liang attacked the southern barbarian King Meng Huo. His soldiers armed with vine shield were impenetrable against arrows and bolts. Zhuge Liang eventually resorted to fire attacks since the shields were hardened by oil.
@tasse0599
@tasse0599 23 дня назад
Just a few days ago I listened to that episode of John Zhu's podcast and found it weird that they oiled their armours. It makes sense, if that was for hardening. Pretty cool, ngl
@leventebardossy5962
@leventebardossy5962 25 дней назад
Honorable mention to the Magyar Huszar. Not only dressed mostly like in the game, its bonus also kinda make sense, as they were highly used to break castle sieges in the 16th century.
@imfilip1982
@imfilip1982 23 дня назад
Huszars were used for irregular warfare, raiding, securing, covering and reconnaissance of main regular forces. Light cav can't break castle sieges.
@sitrilko
@sitrilko 22 дня назад
Are you sure about that last part? Huszárs were irregular, light cavalry instituted by Matthias Corvinus iirc. The main fighting cavalry force were still the typical heavy cav/knights. While I can appreciate the assymetric value of light units even in sieges, I would love to know of examples where this actually happened with the huszárs!
@leventebardossy5962
@leventebardossy5962 22 дня назад
@@sitrilko ​ @imfilip1982 By the time period I'm talking about, middle of 16th century, heavy cavalry was mostly gone in Hungary. Heavy armor couldn't stand Turkish gunpowder during the battle of Mohács in 1514, so it quickly went out of fashion, partly due to nobility who could give funds for it not being interested in resisting the Turkish invasions. In 1552, another invasion came, when basically a light cavalry civ had to defend plenty of castles from siege. It's logical a raid would target artillery and siege operators, even though in that year, Eger was the only battle that ended with a Hungarian victory.
@RenamedChannel
@RenamedChannel 24 дня назад
8:48 Those events are somewhat referenced in the Montezuma (Aztec) campaign. In the 3rd scenario Quetzalcoatl you need to capture 20 horses from Spanish. In the 5th scenario The Boiling Lake you can convert found horses into Xolotl Warriors (Elite Tarkan before DE) and Trade Cards into Bombards. This is why unit looks Aztec.
@draganescuconstantin2380
@draganescuconstantin2380 24 дня назад
+ it was probably easier to use assets from the Jaguar Warrior model than make a new one for such a niche unit
@fabianlopez8648
@fabianlopez8648 25 дней назад
"Elephant Monk" Don't worry guys, Age of Empires 3 got us covered for that one.
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 25 дней назад
And they manage to feel both too weak and too strong at the same time.
@Kidneyjoe42
@Kidneyjoe42 25 дней назад
Someone should get gun elephants. I'm not sure if medieval 2's timurid cannon elephants were ever a real thing, but people shooting big muskets from the backs of elephants definitely was.
@fabianlopez8648
@fabianlopez8648 25 дней назад
This is the same game that has Camel-Mounted Gatling Guns by the way so anything is possible
@fabianlopez8648
@fabianlopez8648 25 дней назад
@@Alias_Anybody Really depends if you're investing actively or not into Brahmin to be frank
@EvilDoresh
@EvilDoresh 24 дня назад
@@Kidneyjoe42 It's a shame punt guns (ridiculously oversized shotguns for hunting waterfowl) didn't exist until the 19th century. They would've been perfect to mount on an elephant.
@erictokunhaga9482
@erictokunhaga9482 25 дней назад
This made me think about the inclusion of Tlaxcalans in aoe, it would be interesting to have a meso civ that also can access to European units like cavalry and gunpowder, probably after a unique tech to symbolize their alliance with the Spanish.
@khankhomrad8855
@khankhomrad8855 25 дней назад
Yes, the TLAXCALAN
@mrjustadude1
@mrjustadude1 25 дней назад
That would be dope. The unique tech could give them access to building stables and building the Mezo knight unit guys, and maybe hand cannon w/o resurching Chem?
@AdmiralWololo
@AdmiralWololo 25 дней назад
Agreed, coincidentally I'm working on a video about that right now
@mr.spider6859
@mr.spider6859 25 дней назад
This would apply to the Incas as well (albeit an Andean civ), though for the same reasons the Aztecs in the campaign (inaccurately) obtained Spanish horses and gear for their rebellion.
@erictokunhaga9482
@erictokunhaga9482 24 дня назад
@@mr.spider6859 not really, the Tlaxcalans were allies with the Spanish for centuries, they even helped with the conquest of the Andes and the Philippines.
@ngochunglongnguyen4523
@ngochunglongnguyen4523 24 дня назад
3:55 Historically, Vietnamese beside using rattan to make shields to increase pierce armor. Rattan can be made into rattan rod to strike fear into Vietnamese children by the Vietnamese Moms.
@ngochunglongnguyen2526
@ngochunglongnguyen2526 24 дня назад
😂
@DarklordZagarna
@DarklordZagarna 22 дня назад
I guess it should increase the work rate of the villagers...
@duyanhnguyen7703
@duyanhnguyen7703 13 дней назад
Exactly lol
@012689
@012689 25 дней назад
Rattan shields and bamboo sticks are still used as riot gear.
@jahnmark2864
@jahnmark2864 25 дней назад
To the obuch point, I mean it is only the unit coming out of the castle (one might say nobility) that carries the hammer
@StarshadowMelody
@StarshadowMelody 24 дня назад
There's a horde of polish nobles rampaging across your base.
@CrickettoSantalune
@CrickettoSantalune 25 дней назад
12:43 fun fact: Duarte Barbosa was a member of the expedition who traveled around the world alongside Elcano and Magallanes (Magellan)
@SvanTowerMan
@SvanTowerMan 25 дней назад
As someone who was greatly interested in the Khmer Empire even before the announcement of Rise of the Rajas, I knew all about the Ballista Elephant and was not surprised at all by its gimmick, which is one of the most accurate gimmicks in the game.
@kylethomas9130
@kylethomas9130 25 дней назад
Can just imagine some Khmer engineers looking at a double crossbow and thinking, "This is really great, if only we could maneuver it better on the battlefield." They pause to ponder, then a nearby elephant gives a toot; and they slowly, collectively turn their heads.
@ashina2146
@ashina2146 24 дня назад
On the Turtle Ships Panokseons are the Joseon/Korean Warships, while the Geobukseon or Turtle Ship is a different ship, the Panokseon has multiple decks that allows more cannons to be loaded which is the reason of why the Joseon Navy being superior than the Japanese Navy who mostly uses Archery, Arquebus and boarding tactics. Though sadly Admiral Yi Shun Shin would lose all of the Geobukseon, not in battle but because he was imprisoned by his own King and the one who replaces him loses some Geobukseon in battle and then scupper all the Geobukseon. The 13 Ship is during the Battle of Myeongnyang where 13 Panokseon and around 30 Scouting Ships fought and won against around 130 to 300 Japanese Warships.
@AndreaAirlines
@AndreaAirlines 7 дней назад
I'll use this as an excuse to post the k-hiphop classic Geobukseon ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-g7j2NjAMLos.html
@BK-yj7vg
@BK-yj7vg 25 дней назад
Spirit of the Law gets 9 out of 10 points for correct pronunciation of nadziak. I was legit surprised how good it was.
@sjoerdglaser2794
@sjoerdglaser2794 24 дня назад
His goedendag, however, was pretty bad. Especially for a word that Google translate pronounces very well
@BK-yj7vg
@BK-yj7vg 24 дня назад
@@sjoerdglaser2794 In this case you can say that he need to polish his Dutch. Badum tss. I assume it's Dutch, I'm too lazy to check it
@Duke_of_Lorraine
@Duke_of_Lorraine 25 дней назад
The militia-line has a very nice touch : men-at-arms and longswordmen, it use a shield + a 1h sword. Then with the 2h-swordmen, the unit wears visibly more armour, a 2h-sword and no longer a shield. Which is what happened when armour became more advanced in Europe with plate armour, the armour was so good it made the shield redundant, so many ditched it an upgraded to a two-hands weapon, greatly increasing their striking power.
@Just_a-guy
@Just_a-guy 25 дней назад
Sadly it is quite double edge example. Men at arms should be mounted units (late middle age also) and longswords (even if DnD or BG try to say otherwise) are two handed weapons. Also where they held that many tournaments for post imp goths? :D But yea, better armor meant that they started using double handed weapons more often
@Just_a-guy
@Just_a-guy 25 дней назад
@@raizan5946 Which part is wrong?
@raizan5946
@raizan5946 25 дней назад
@@Just_a-guy Plate armor = Rise of polearm and bludgeoning weapons. 2-h sword = specialized armies, like german zweihanders. You don't reject a shield because your armour is better, taking a hit to the body even if padded and lessened is still painful. It happens due to limitations of your fighting style, lifestyle, place, tactics or specialization in combat. When handcannons and the like started to be more common place and better made then the true decline of plate armour started, didn't it? It was expensive to make, cumbersome to transport, dress into and wear while not providing better protection anymore than behaving like a sitting duck so they transitioned to lighter armour, shields very likely stick way longer than plate armour (which champions aren't wearing afaik). The whole militia line evolves in a fashion of "better armies" to "better individuals" fashion which is the opposite of what I consider accurate and it is in the name: 2-h swordsmen look like average gladiators for an arena while the champion... a champion. Look at the jousting you do with Cid in the campaigns for king Sancho. Pretty much the feeling the militia line gives after the longsword.
@raizan5946
@raizan5946 25 дней назад
Also, and I don't know why I would need to point this out... You could two hand with a shield. Many shields were forearm mounted with straps.
@UnDeaDCyBorg
@UnDeaDCyBorg 25 дней назад
The sources I've read/heard pointed more towards the two-handed weapon being necessary, as your opponent would also wear better armour; Still a +armour --> -shield relation. :) Throughout History, people have been willing to carry a relatively consistent amount of weight for protection in a similar situation.
@alejandroballesteroshernan1678
@alejandroballesteroshernan1678 25 дней назад
The 'frankly' pun and the bearded axe meme was just too good
@counterman-namreview516
@counterman-namreview516 25 дней назад
fun fact from VNese here : in operation Linebacker 2 , 1972, when US air force bombing North VN, rattan hat and straw hat (both get heavily reinforced to 2 to 3 cm thick) provided to civilian against bomb's fragtures.
@omkargouraje6243
@omkargouraje6243 25 дней назад
3 units are related to India alone, 1st Arambai......Manipur state, India. 2nd Flaming Camel......Used in battle at delhi 3rd Chakram Thrower.......weapon from Gujarat State, India ❤❤❤❤ Thank you spirit😊
@DrF3lix
@DrF3lix 25 дней назад
None can stand against the Mangonelephant!
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh 25 дней назад
The trebuphant!
@EvilDoresh
@EvilDoresh 24 дня назад
@@RennieAsh The Hussite Elephant!
@abyssalblade7244
@abyssalblade7244 24 дня назад
The most dope stuff is that they kinda produce projectiles themselves. You just have to dry them under the sun😂
@Vordikk
@Vordikk 23 дня назад
@@RennieAsh im curiuous now, would trebuphant deploy by sitting on elephant's ass or by rising his "hands"?
@tyranitararmaldo
@tyranitararmaldo 25 дней назад
I liked seeing the comparisons between the Arambai and their irl counterparts, didn't notice the hats before.
@MajoraZ
@MajoraZ 25 дней назад
I do posts & video consulting for channels on Mesoamerica: I'll expand on what you said with native use of horses further down, but I wish the unit was named Mazatl, over Xolotl: Mazatl is the Nahuatl word for Deer, and many Mesoamerican sources initially called Spanish horses "Large Deer": i've seen a fair amount of artists who do well researched, authentic art of Mesoamerican stuff come up with cool idea for Deer themed Mesoamerican calvary units for this reason (First in Kamazotz's alt history comic "Zotz", which inspired OHS688's piece, which then Mossacannibalis did their own version of), and I think that makes a lot more sense then naming the unit Xolotl, which seems random; or giving them Jaguar themed equipment: There are Deer themed ceremonial outfits even if not military armor, but IMO it'd have been fine to make hypothetical military versions. On that note, I want to go on a tangent about that "armor": Like a lot of media depictions of Mesoamerican stuff, AOE sadly depicts much of the clothing, equipment, and architecture as looking extra primitive or unrefined for no real reason: The Jaguar and Xolotl warriors look basically like cavemen, largely naked with a big Jaguar pelt hanging on their back, and crude bone/horn necklaces. The architectural set also has bare grey, worn looking stones, among other aesthetic issues/choices... In reality, by contrast, soldiers wore proper armor: gambeson tunics or vests; over which were warsuits and skirted tunics covered in a mosaic of iridescent feathers making patterns (Jaguar Spots, Geometric designs etc) to indicate rank and division; metal mail jackets; bamboo and wooden helmets and shields, too covered in mosaics or inlaid gold or gemstones, etc. In addition to Macuahuitl, weapons included spears, sorts of halbreds and glaives, axes (both stone and bronze), maces, clubs, and more. Outside of combat, men wore cloaks akin to Greco-roman togas; women with flowing blouses which with their hair buns and face paint evoked Japanese Geisha. Garments were covered with geometric, floral, etc designs, and gold, gemstone, and feather jewelry (not merely feathers put in things but again as mosaic coverings or as intricate 3-dimensional bouquets). For architecture, stone Buildings were covered in white plaster, with painted frescos and other architectural accents, in a style close to the Minoan palaces, with square rooms, flat roofs, and open courtyards surrounded by patios with columns. These palaces, temples etc were arranged around large plazas in city centers, often also with aqueduct and drain systems, royal botanical gardens etc. (And I didn't even get into the Venice like canals and suburban sprawls!). These were absurdly opulent looking cultures (Check out Scott and Stuart Gentling's paintings) and it's a shame they get made to look so dirty and unrefined in media. Anyways, so Indigenous use of horses! I think most people know that Cortes and his faction of Conquistadors made alliances with local city-states and kingdoms, who they relied on heavily for their success (and in fact, in many cases, local kings and officials like Xicotencatl II, Ixtlixochtli II, Xicomecoatl, etc were actively manipulating Conquistadors to further their own political interests... it was really mostly that sort of political opportunism that made those alliances happen, rather then the Mexica of the Aztec capital being particularly resented or oppressive: It was their empire being loose and hands off which enabled this), but people may not be aware of the level of mixing of equipment this lead to: Conquistadors would at times use Mesoamerican gambeson and helmets (Some conquistadors still did even in the Coronado expedition up into Colorado), while elite Mesoamerican allies (who at times, were even formal Conquistadors with encomienda land grants) were, yes, given horses, steel weapons, etc, though at times these were also looted and repurposed by enemy forces, such as Spanish swords which were fixed to staffs to act as long pikes by Aztec armies. However, beyond the mere adoption of each other's military equipment, we see actual cultural mixing, too. People today talk about Mexico as a mix of Indiginous and Spanish culture, and it is, but in the 16th, 17th, and even 18th centuries, this was much more pronounced with overt Mesoamerican elements: The Malinalco (which in Prehispanic times, also nearby had a ceremonial retreat for Aztec soldiers, cut out of a large hill) murals as well as the Ixmiquilpan murals are both done in a mix of Spanish and Mesoamerican styles, the latter showing soldiers from the Otomi civilization fighting for the Spanish, wearing both Mesoamerican jewelry and wielding Macuahuitl, but also with Catholic imagery and potentially garments and armor. I mentioned Mossacannibalis before, but he has quite a bit of art depicting this sort of blending based on real manuscripts, murals, and paintings: Tlaxcalteca soldiers with Spanish crosses painted onto their Mesoamerican back banners (based on the Lienzo de Tlaxcala) and with Jesus painted as the the god Mixcoatl sacrificed on a cross tied to it as well (both the Mesoamericans and Spanish noticed parallels between their religions); Soldiers in plate armor but also Aztex xiuhuitzolli crowns, etc. Perhaps my favorite example of this mixing is the Feather Mosaic "paintings" made by Aztec and Purepecha artists for the Spanish, which look like the best Catholic gilded altarpieces and paintings, except with iridescent, color changing feathers instead of paint. Absolutely mind blowing stuff, you gotta look them up! Anyways, I'd go on and revenue how the AOE3 Aztec units stack up but I am actually in the middle of an archeology conference and barely had time to squeeze this comment out, haha. Sorry I couldn't go in more detail on stuff like specific campaigns and Mesoamerican princes who fought on horseback with the Spanish, I wanted to but what I posted is what I know off the top of my head. Actually, one last thing: If the Mayas can use Siege Towers in AOE (and i'm not sure they can, admittedly), that would also be accurate: There's a mural at Chichen Itza which seems to show one.
@Spindrift
@Spindrift 25 дней назад
indigenous America is endlessly fascinating
@deirun5709
@deirun5709 20 дней назад
Thank you for your comment, it was a very interesting read.
@Tareltonlives
@Tareltonlives 20 дней назад
Thanks! I'd love to see a review of historically accurate each of the takes on the Aztecs are.
@mullerpotgieter
@mullerpotgieter 25 дней назад
Ancient India: "These darts are powerful and deadly. We must train our men to properly wield them" 1970s America: "Lol. These darts would make a great kids toy"
@mauricesteel4995
@mauricesteel4995 25 дней назад
A few lawsuits later...
@StarshadowMelody
@StarshadowMelody 24 дня назад
Classic USA.
@Duchess_Van_Hoof
@Duchess_Van_Hoof 8 дней назад
Ancient Rome: These new wardarts outrange our javelins and are far more compact!
@OytheGreat
@OytheGreat 24 дня назад
As a Belgian from the Flemish part of our country, I particularly enjoyed 8:10 😂 Although you could've finished with "8/10 helloes to the face". Love these videos where you go into the historical background of the game so much SotL, I really hope you keep making these!
@jotfohm4644
@jotfohm4644 25 дней назад
Chakram thro.. No, Strike that. War Frisbi! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Cyber669
@Cyber669 22 дня назад
In fact, a short version of Nadziak was commonly used by winged hussars as a single-use weapon, due to how hard it hit during combat. Pulling it out of already dead enemy while still fighting on a horse, would take too much time and effort in the heat of the battle. Also, for obvious reasons, shields (which otherwise would be the best kind of armor against such type of weapon) were already at that time either ineffective or impractical, you'd never find any in cavalry skirmishes.
@cactuslietuva
@cactuslietuva 25 дней назад
always nice to see xena reference
@chasecardelli9971
@chasecardelli9971 25 дней назад
Elephant 🐘 with a bombard cannon! I've been dreaming of it in every game for years!
@arkadeepmukherjee4701
@arkadeepmukherjee4701 25 дней назад
Existed in India in 17th century, but the cannon was light. Elephant-hand-cannoeers perhaps?
@squadwiper79
@squadwiper79 25 дней назад
We indians put anything and everything on an elephant and put it into battl.e
@EvilDoresh
@EvilDoresh 24 дня назад
I'm pretty sure AoE3 has that unit.
@tasse0599
@tasse0599 23 дня назад
the portuguese Civ mod for AoC has that unit as a mercenary (regional units costing only gold that are trained from a new building, called a tavern)
@VieneLea
@VieneLea 25 дней назад
Learning from Skallagrim last week that wicker isn't material but a type of weave was lifechanging, and it's cool to see another content creator I watch bring it up
@widowpeak6142
@widowpeak6142 25 дней назад
I love the goedendag. Not only it's a very simple weapon to manufacture (It's a just stabby stick), the name drips sarcasm. It's like those WWII cannon shells with messages such as "Happy Easter Adolph"
@saluteadezio7893
@saluteadezio7893 25 дней назад
Its not only sarcasm. The origin of the name is that the rebels were 'greeting" people saying "goedendag" and if person replied with wrong accent they got * bonked *
@stalhandske9649
@stalhandske9649 23 дня назад
@@saluteadezio7893 Yeah, it was a shibboleth word for ethnic cleansing that took place at times during that war. This kind of trick was used during civil war of 1918 in my native Finland as well: after bourgeoisie 'white' side captured city of Vyborg in late stage of war, they made civilians recite "one, two" in Finnish in order to separate Russians (Soviet Russia supported the socialist 'red' side.) Many Russian shop owners etc. who supported whites were killed there because of ethnic hatred that had brewed during the war (propaganda, atrocities of both sides, people who knew each other taking opposing sides.) Such are civil wars 😞
@Khrada
@Khrada 25 дней назад
Rattan is a really good material. I used to have chairs made out of rattan, and they are very light and sturdy. Southeast Asia is blessed to have bamboo and rattan for them to use.
@robdillenger4763
@robdillenger4763 25 дней назад
"Guys, you gotta stop bringing your warhammers to town meetings."
@StarshadowMelody
@StarshadowMelody 24 дня назад
I can just picture a bunch of nobles being EXTREMELY UPSET that they can't bring their favourite warhammers to work anymore.
@gatowololo5629
@gatowololo5629 23 дня назад
Nice man! I love your more historically inclined videos. I randomly watch your Wonders videos sometimes, just for the vibes
@MasterMetallica1
@MasterMetallica1 25 дней назад
I think my biggest issue with the turtle ship accuracy wise is that we still don't having moving oars with them.
@Morgan_Black
@Morgan_Black 25 дней назад
This has been one of my favourite SotL videos to date, I absolutely loved everything about it! Keep up the fantastic work, Aoe2 math man!
@aribantala
@aribantala 23 дня назад
Thrown Darts for Warfare in General were pretty extensively used in the Antiquity too. The Romans besides carrying the infamous Pilum javelin, also more often carries "Lawn Darts" sized Missile called the Martiobarbuli, also more well known as Plumbatae. And for obvious reasons, carry Martiobarbuli more than infamous Pilum because 1. While a Legionary can carry, at best, 2 Pila; According to Vegetius on De Re Militari, they can carry at least 5 Martiobarbuli 2. Logically, Pila were used more on heavy targets, like a thick formation of Pike Wall, or for downing Cavalry and other War Animals. While Martiobarbuli were used to pepper the enemy, much like the role of Archers or Greek Psiloi It can be imagined that a Martiobarbuli are grenades of the Pila are RPGs
@muito_facil
@muito_facil 25 дней назад
Hi, Spirit! What about a historically bonkers/accurate techs video? The videos about units were awesome!
@nickvuch5729
@nickvuch5729 25 дней назад
Another great video as always but this was def my favorite one learning a bit more of history
@anirudha04
@anirudha04 25 дней назад
Great aoe2 content! A video exploring timeline mismatch in AOE2 could also be very interesting!
@localweathermans
@localweathermans 24 дня назад
I love these kinds of videos! I wouldn’t be opposed to any other unique units being given historical accuracy tests too, just for the sake of cool information.
@historymax5479
@historymax5479 25 дней назад
Xolotl...SOTL... hey, I think we have a new nickname for the channel!
@jerryne2424
@jerryne2424 25 дней назад
The arambai riders were feared because their darts could be thrown attacking and retreating with deadly effect by trained riders. Happy that someone pointed out that it was used against and not by the Burmese. It bugged me for a while
@Progeusz-
@Progeusz- 25 дней назад
Xena the Warrior Princess. That was my favorite show in childhood!
@darkj3di666
@darkj3di666 3 дня назад
12:43 really love the way authors of the past described stuff. Simple, almost humorously so, but drives the point really well across
@johntitor_ibm5100
@johntitor_ibm5100 24 дня назад
Consider this for the next elephant unit: A chakram-armed knight on horseback riding an elephant on top of a turtle ship. And then it's turtle ships all the way down.
@devangnivatkar2649
@devangnivatkar2649 25 дней назад
Fun fact: In modern day slang, 'chakram' means the same as calling someone a 'crackpot'
@XtReMz98
@XtReMz98 24 дня назад
Showcasing the flaming camels without mentioning: ‘’SeNd FoRtH tHe FLaMinG CaMEls!!!!!!!’’ feels like a missed opportunity.
@SummertimeSlavness
@SummertimeSlavness 22 дня назад
Glad you mentioned the Frankish Throwing Axes! You can actually see some in the Musée de l'Armée in Paris. Super cool!
@AntonioZL
@AntonioZL 25 дней назад
3:45 this dude has probably never stepped into a gym before while I work out 5 days a week, and he's still thrice as jacked as me. Geez.
@riseALK
@riseALK 25 дней назад
True. Reminds me of a saying "before we had work outs, we just worked" (referring to physical labor ofc)
@StarshadowMelody
@StarshadowMelody 24 дня назад
@@riseALK Stop wasting your time lifting weights and go weave a wicker basket. -or pound metal into swords i guess-
@riseALK
@riseALK 24 дня назад
@@StarshadowMelody Wicker basket weaving will be give nice strong and hands, not so much muscles elsewhere Old school blacksmithing will definitely give you powerful musculature, and also asbestos poisoning or lung cancer 😂
@shiryu22
@shiryu22 25 дней назад
great companion piece to last video!
@WJen8
@WJen8 25 дней назад
I love videos like this that tie in fun facts to common game knowledge 💯
@lekhakaananta5864
@lekhakaananta5864 24 дня назад
Spirit: "The point is, Native Americans taking advantage of access to enemy horses... has some good evidence behind it" Commanches, becoming the Mongol Horde of North America: "Evidence you say? MAYBE YOU'VE HEARD OF ME..." A more accurate description would be that central and south american natives adapting to use horses isn't well-known in pop culture, but in the North American plains they have quite the reputation.
@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana
@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana 25 дней назад
The silliest thing about the elephant 🐘 units is that they don't have an extremely high line of sight from the mahout having an elevation advantage.
@arcisas
@arcisas 25 дней назад
Today in Polish 'Obuch weapon' (broń obuchowa) apart from a name for this specific weapon means 'blunt weapon' and is used for all blunt force weapons like hammers or clubs.
@cristobalguzman2066
@cristobalguzman2066 25 дней назад
A fact about pre colombian civs using horses: in Chile, the Mapuches stealed the horses fron the Spanish, and became way better riders of then (they didnt used saddles or seats), incorporating them to their army to fight back, and the Spanish never won against them
@EvilDoresh
@EvilDoresh 24 дня назад
Weapons similar to the Obuch's were also popular in other parts of Europe, like the _bec de corbin_ or the _Lucerne hammer_ . Both of these also tended to have a pronounced spike _on top_ of the hammer, because it wouldn't be a proper medieval polearm if it couldn't also double as a spear.
@lucasshulman54
@lucasshulman54 22 дня назад
Hi! Huge fan here. Great vid as always. I was wandering when is cost efective to take a fight and when i shouldnt, and i said "spirit can make a vid of this". Example: 4 scouts enter in my wood; run or fight?. when is cost-effective taking a fight against pikemen with knights? how many infantry is enought to dive into a tc? and a lot of examples, a lot of situations we encounter in our games (vills vs towers, xbows vs kts, kts vs camels, etc..) . Thanks for all your work!
@XYZ-eo8um
@XYZ-eo8um 25 дней назад
I've just commented on Obuch unit under your previous film, as I've just watched it. Of course, I've focused on the name of the weapon
@sly2405
@sly2405 24 дня назад
Hi Spirit Of The Law, it's me here and watching!
@FirstLast-wk3kc
@FirstLast-wk3kc 25 дней назад
"Cuts through all" clearly means cleaves through said hand or neck. And yes, irl armour negates it easily.
@riseALK
@riseALK 25 дней назад
For sure. On the other hand, ballista bolts also did not pierce through multiple people, and the very powerful ones might pierce through at the max two unarmored humans in close range.
@FirstLast-wk3kc
@FirstLast-wk3kc 24 дня назад
@@riseALK seems like someone hadn't seen strongest rome ballistas... But more importantly there are distinct differences between a siege machine throwing projectile 200 m and a man throwing projectile by himself. Do you imply that longbows now need to pierce 10 foes too? I'll have you know that war bow tier bows may have up to 150-200 poundage draw weight which is possible to draw because you also engage back muscles. Why hand thrown chuckrams would pierce any army while more powerful range weapon not then?.. If you want to give it a real thought and it's plain ridiculous in logical inconsistency.
@riseALK
@riseALK 24 дня назад
@@FirstLast-wk3kc Show me any Roman ballista test video where the bolt pierces through multiple humanlike targets 😂
@FirstLast-wk3kc
@FirstLast-wk3kc 24 дня назад
@@riseALK someone decided to ignore any important point and come only at the only non serious part of my comment, eh? But please, indulge into Tom's Workshop old videos, some include a large Roman balista with insane range and outstanding power in comparison to absolute most of any other balistas. Although, my main points are still literally any other sentences of my previous comment.
@riseALK
@riseALK 24 дня назад
@@FirstLast-wk3kc Why does a Longbowmen outrange buildings, and have the same range as a cannon? Why people throwing large javelins can reach the reach of bows? Why does a Cataphract wearing 12th century mail armor resist pikes better than a Paladin wearing rennaissance era plate armor? As SotL says right at the start of the video, this is a videogame, not a history simulator. It has to add gimmicks to make things not only balanced, but also unique and interesting.
@Dracobyte
@Dracobyte 25 дней назад
Great video ss always!
@vario6492
@vario6492 20 дней назад
Number 1: Villager "As it turns out, people lived in villages"
@JJBeauregard1
@JJBeauregard1 25 дней назад
I knew Throwing Axemen were a thing because I distinctly remember playing AoE2 together with my dad as a kid and us looking them up together because we didn't believe such a soldier really existed. Good times!
@quoniam426
@quoniam426 24 дня назад
The main problem with the Throwing Axe men is that it is an early Frankish weapon. By the time we develop unique units in game, they weren't existing anymore. The Petard, as you suggested in the last video, should then have become the Frank Unique unit. Had the game had gameplay differences early on, like AoE4 has, the Throwing axemen should be the standard Frank Militia in Dark Age (approx at the time of Charlemagne).
@CallofDutyBlackOps28
@CallofDutyBlackOps28 25 дней назад
I like to think that sense the teutons have the +1 armor for age, that paladins are the Teuton knights as well, but being AoE2, you only have so much to work with.
@llSuperSnivyll
@llSuperSnivyll 25 дней назад
I really would have put the Throwing Axeman and Obuch as honorable mentions in the previous video, as while the concept itself is accurate for both, the weapon is very blatantly bonkers.
@HATECELL
@HATECELL 22 дня назад
Another small knitpick about the axe thrower is that the Fancisca wasn't really a primary weapon. The idea behind it is that you throw it before attacking with your melee weapon to put the enemy in a dilemma. With you charging in and the Franciscas raining down the enemy has to decide whether to raise their shield or not, as they can't effectively defend against both
@dieblauebedrohung
@dieblauebedrohung 25 дней назад
I love the Idea of an Elephant Petard. Basically a Demolitionship on Land and on Crack. Imagine paying like 200 Food and 80 Gold for a Unit that blows itself up and can oneshot regular Buildings with that.
@insomnicide94
@insomnicide94 24 дня назад
Not gonna lie, knowing now that there is a secret calvary unit you can get, I kinda want more. Super situational, super uncommon, but it would be a cool inclusion to the game
@ethribin4188
@ethribin4188 25 дней назад
Warhammer. The weapon many people think of a huge heavy mallet when told to imagine a Warhammer. But actually, the weapon is exactly what the AoE2 Obuch uses. THAT is a warhammer.
@jliller
@jliller 25 дней назад
It's not Fantasy, and it didn't even cost 40K!
@blacklight4720
@blacklight4720 25 дней назад
I think warhammers are even smaller. I recall playing War of the Roses game and it had cavalry warhammer. If I recall correctly it was in length of the arming sword or that of an axe.
@Just_a-guy
@Just_a-guy 25 дней назад
It is still too big but yea, War hammers looked more like regular hammer and not mallet that are use to build fences
@Just_a-guy
@Just_a-guy 25 дней назад
@@blacklight4720 War Hammers are about half of meter (50-60cm/about two feet) and weigh around one kg (two pounds). There were longer and heavier one but two handed war hammer is something that wasnt use at all. You can say that poleaxe or Lucerne hammer are two hannded hammers but even they arent as big and heavy as ppl think (2-3kg on 1.5-2m long stick)
@kingtiger3390
@kingtiger3390 25 дней назад
It's by far too big. Comically big even.
@YAMIVA
@YAMIVA 25 дней назад
Wow, your "nadziak" pronunciation was flawless 10/10. I'm guessing you consulted a dictionary? Our phonetics are very quirky for foreigners, I hear.
@tasse0599
@tasse0599 23 дня назад
as a German, the dź is the sound that's the hardest to pronounce to me in Polish
@DigiMatt52
@DigiMatt52 24 дня назад
I was here for the Mills video. What do you mean we're being LENIENT
@RicardoAlmeidatm
@RicardoAlmeidatm 25 дней назад
It would be cool if the Arambai did low damage and then the rest as a DoT to demonstrate the poison's effect. I gave no idea if damage over time is even possible in AOE2
@kevinnorwood8782
@kevinnorwood8782 22 дня назад
The one thing you didn't mention about the Chakrams which I was REALLY hoping you would, was that another way of carrying them was stacking them on specially designed TURBANS.
@RolfReibach
@RolfReibach 24 дня назад
Rattan is/was also used to make bows. It is super light weight, flexible and easy to work with. Massive advantage over wood 🏹
@BroccoliKatze
@BroccoliKatze 23 дня назад
I like these videos a lot❤
@MetaLeir93
@MetaLeir93 3 дня назад
Everytime I watch this shit I tell myself I'm NOT going to do a little dance But then the lil background tune starts and I end up doing a little dance Damn
@RolfReibach
@RolfReibach 24 дня назад
That picture of the elephant petard is gold 😂
@Tareltonlives
@Tareltonlives 20 дней назад
TBF the Obuch was used in duels between nobles on foot so there is some reason it's for infantry, but it's still anachronistic. The reason it was invented from the Nadziak and Czeckan (a Nadziak-like weapon with an axe end instead of a hammer) with the straight point was that the nobleman Michał Piekarski ,mentally ill, Calvinist and supporting the 1606 Zebrzydowski rebellion against increasing royal power, used a czekanto attack King Sigismund III Vasa in 1620. The King was attending Mass at St John's in Warsaw. Piekarski suddenly attacked the king when he was away from the guards.Marshal Łukasz Opaliński managed to put himself between the attacker and the King just in time, with the pick striking King Sigismund in the arm and face but not killing him. As Opalinski grappled with Pierkarski over the hammer, the king's son Prince Władysław drew his saber and struck Piekarski in the head, allowing Opalinski to subdue him. From then on not only was the Nadziak relegated to the battlefield with nobles wearing Obuch instead, but even then they were banned from church ground. The giant chakram isn't that out of the question; I believe there were some 3--foot versions used against elephants and formations at extremely close range. Chakram came in all different sizes- Akali Nihang, Sikh Warrior Monks, wear small ones on their wrists and increasingly smaller ones on their turbans, which could be up to 3 feet tall. I suppose I could quibble about the cho ku nu being able to do real damage against armor, same as the urumi (like the urumi it was more of a civilian weapon, albeit for militia rather than dueling) or the Karambits being enormous, or the feasibility of using a harquebus on horseback, (although I have seen military drill illustrations for it) or the Janissaries with beards but without hats, or cataphracts being specifically anti-infantry , but I actually give AOE2 a lot of credit for historical accuracy in the Unique Units with a few exceptions.
@Max-ej4oh
@Max-ej4oh 25 дней назад
Blacksmithing pros observing how the Frank's would hurl their hardwork metal axes to enemies, expecting more to be made: 💀
@Zwijger
@Zwijger 21 день назад
Not just the battle of the Golden Spurs. The cities of Flanders, most notably Gent, but also Brugge, were notorious rioters under Burgundian rule, whereas the Golde Spurs was fought against France, not the Burgundian dukes, because that title wasn't around at the moment.
@GarfieldRex
@GarfieldRex 25 дней назад
Cries in Jaguar Warrior...
@RocketHarry865
@RocketHarry865 24 дня назад
I wonder if we could get the Tlaxcallans a Nahua related to the Mexica (Aztecs) who resisted early Aztec conquests and later were engaged in Flower Wars with the Aztecs where the main objective was to capture as many of the enemy as possible for sacrifices. The Tlaxcallans became the chief allies of the Spainish during their conquest of the Aztecs and later the rest of Mexico and were rewarded with many rights and privileges such as allowed to carry guns, ride horses, hold noble titles, maintain Tlaxcaltec names and to rule their settlements autonomously. It would be interesting for the Tlaxallans being the sole American civilization that can build stables and train cavalry as default.
@User-ik8lu
@User-ik8lu 25 дней назад
Please do most historically op units now. :)
@fsiguy7539
@fsiguy7539 25 дней назад
Hey Spirit, how about a video about the languages spoken in game?
@hqribo2680
@hqribo2680 25 дней назад
Elephantard?? After all these years I didn't even know I needed it
@yizhenji5564
@yizhenji5564 25 дней назад
The main drawback of the Rattan armor set is that it’s very weak against Fire. Despite being more of a novel rather than a historical source, The Romance of the Three Kingdoms tells that the Yunnan natives used Rattan armor against the Shu Han army’s weapons and can be transported on water due to the oily lair, but then it might burn the wielder if the latter is relatively close to a fire
@alexanderchristiansen1664
@alexanderchristiansen1664 22 дня назад
The double axe for throwing probably comes from the throwing axes used in modern axe throwing which look like that. AFAIK modern axe throwing mostly exists today as a subset of lumberjack sports.
@robertboemke8705
@robertboemke8705 25 дней назад
Rattan is also popular for bowmakers, although I dunno if it checks out as a material for warbows.
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