Hey Azhy! Just wanted to chime in and say that there was a slight error in your description of the weaknesses of Dying Light! Old versions of this perk did effect repairing, but in its current state, the buff applied to the obsession is only effective for healing and unhooks. All other survivors do suffer a penalty to repairs, however.
Actually Dying Light never gave the obsession a repair speed buff, it’s only ever had two versions and neither did this so you’re right about the mistake but DL has never done that
@@biggvsdickvs1590 You are exactly correct! I'm so sorry, I really remembered the old version doing as much, but I just checked the wiki and you have the right of it.
I LOVE using Dark Devotion on Wesker, due to his massive terror radius, it can definitely be very confusing. Many times the obsession runs the opposite direction to the other survivors and they end up believing that I'm going the opposite direction. Tons of free hits it's hilarious. It also messes the obsession up when I'm chasing them too as you have no red stain when you whack them for the first time.
Yeah main point of Dark Devotion is to not chase the obsession just hit them and go find some poor sod that does not realize you are coming. Might even get a gen grab if you are lucky. Not to mention as they buffed it work when ever the obsession loses a health state you can get benefit out of it by using killers who hurt remotely. Like survivor steps on trap your terror radius gone, puke infection gets full radius gone etc. You don't even need to be near them to get benefit out of this. Seems like AZHYMOVS still remembers this perk as the old version because he says hitting survivor when in clearly shows that they just need to lose a health state. Its not tied to the basic attack anymore.
i actually find utility in alien instinct. i agree with its folly of alerting the target. however its lack of a ranged limitation like BBQ means that if only 1 survivor is injured and they hiding near where your chase is it can kinda work like awakened awareness so whenever you hook them you get a free down. i kinda view it as a hybrid awara + BBQ and it aint bad imo.
I think Alien Instinct is an extremely solid snowball perk. If you have like 3 people injured and hook one, you can easily get to the next survivor, and then the next one. I don't use the stealth as much as I use the aura reading
Alien Instinct is really solid on high mobility killers like alien since you'll be able to actually get to the survivor just as if not a bit before the arua fades
Thing is.. I wish the perk team should just do another big perk rework for all of these outdated or completely useless perks. They could also ask the community for ideas and they could maybe implement what sounds the best to them 🤷♂️
1. They should have created basekit counters to boons for killers instead of SH. Make it so that a survivor can only boon each totem once, allow snuffing to apply a cooldown for blessing, etc. Plus, the boons have been abandoned only after three perks so it feels even more unnecessary. 2. It's neat that killers can get more value out of niche perks than survivors based on their power. For this list in particular, I've seen a lot of Plagues and Legions use Dying Light and quite a few Ghostfaces using Alien Instinct. Stridor and Spirit is a classic combo. Coulrophobia really compliments Wesker. Survivors don't really have this because they're just skins.
There's four boons, technically, but yeah, pretty much. I don't think they should be basekit, as there was only one boon that was even usable at their "peak", and they were much easier to deal with than to set them up (hence their unusability now). But yeah, the second point is something cool. Because of the unique powers, every killer handles perks differently.
I've seen Plagues and Legions using alien instinct to great effect. Since they can injure people quickly and keep them injured, you're always guaranteed to get value from it.
Unnerving would be such a fun perk if it made repair skill checks have an increase in speed by like 25-50% (i.e. Coulrophobia or Soul Chemical), delay the skill check notification while in the Terror Radius, and/or make missed skill checks remove more progress. Unnerving Presence is a perk that would be so fun with a few number & functionality tweaks. Great video, Azhy! Well made, and as entertaining as always. 💜
Dark Devotion may not be a great perk... but it's a very fun perk. If you pair it with another stealth perk, you can confuse the hell out of enemy teams, and it's great. I don't think I've ever made a team more confused than when I used Dark Devotion, Trail of Torment, Plaything, and Monitor & Abuse. Not a powerful build, but it sure as hell gets some reactions!
I like using it with Furtive Chase, Nemesis(perk), and Rancor whenever I get a Mori daily ritual. Especially with the recent buff to Furtive. If played right, you can hide the Rancor aura from the Obsession all match
Okay, but using it on doc is funny. Just static blast after like 20 seconds and it'll hit the obsession guaranteed and possibly whoever is healing them. Yeah, it's a bit meme-y but it's funny.
Ironically, you were playing perhaps the only killer that could use Beast Of Prey effectively. On Ghostface, survivors will throw a chase trying to break what they think is your Nightshroud, letting you get free hits by just following a survivor like a bot.
I’m surprised to not see distressing on this list given that it literally increases your terror radius but at the same time this could be good on certain killers but also be detrimental.
It's the "meme" addon every killer has (makes power worse for extra BP per action) but in perk form. It's ironic it's only good on killers that already have a massive (or have add-ons to have) terror radius. I used to use it with Legion to farm BP before the bloodweb rework.
Personally, I love using Dark Devotion on the Knight. I'll usually run it with Trail of Torment or Tinkerer, and STBFL. Have the addons for two assassins and a larger scout radius. As you might have guessed. I use the assassins to constantly chase the obsession and apply Dark Devotion while im chasing another surv. This has made for some very fun games.
3:00 mistake: Dying light gives bonus to ONLY healing and unhooking speeds. +33% would make it probably best survivor perk - not only the bonus is huge, but you don't even have to use a perk slot!
My position to rework theese perks: 1. Bloodhound - can charge in chase, when 30 sec in chase get undetectable 2. Deathbound - make 32m -> when not in terror radius 3. Dying light - if non obsession hooked 5% debuff to repairs speed for 60 sec, have stacks per hook (like laverage from sm) 4. Predator - Scratch marks become brighter and stay for extra 3 sec 5. Shattered Hope - you can snuff boon totem and break normal totem when you hook survivor (have 4 stacks max, 1 stack per survivor) 6. Grim Embrace - locks generators for 10 sec after first hook on survivor shows obsession aura for 5 sec 7. Unnerving Presence - skillchecks are counterclockwise when in terror radius (if you are in further terror you got only 1 effect, if you are in mid terror you got smaller skillchecks, if you are near killer 8m for example you will get previous effects and your skillcheck is shaking) 8. Alien instinct - when you hit/down survivor you get aura of injured survivor for 5 sec, survivor gets blindness and oblivious for 30 sec 9. Genetic limits - 32 sec and hindered for 12 sec 10. Dark devotion - i'm think it's fine but if the effect can spread out when person with that meets other, that would be great (i mean if obsession walks near survivor, terror swaps to that survivor and timer refresh (30 sec starts again)) If you like some of my changes let me know about it. Like that type of video, premonition also trash type perk. Hate devs for not reworking perks after they said "we will work on it". And nothing...
You forgot one. Scourge Hook: Hangman's Trick is just a far worse Awakened Awareness. Awakened Awareness lets you see survivors close to you while carrying a survivor, aka nearby survivors who may bodyblock, sabotage, rescue. Hangman's show you survivors close to a Scourge Hook, which may not even be useful, as the survivors may be miles away.
Don’t dog on alien instinct, I use that in my stealth xeno build and the hit and run is so strong with this perk that I had a meg call me a wall hacker, also dark devotion is very good, the terror radius isn’t fake but it’s actually your terror radius so survs can carry terror radius reliant perks and abilities like docs static blast
@@lonetomfoolery8762but he gave reasons as to why he thinks it’s good, didn’t he? it’s not just a “fuck you this perk is good don’t hate on it”, he provided valid reasoning lmfao
The advantage to playing with off-meta or failed perks might is people don't expect it. When the obsession gets injured in one of my bear traps miles away and I get random stealth on my way to a gen, survivors don't know what hit 'em. Add in Grim Embrace for maximum shenanigans and annoy the hell out of teams who were thiiiis close to clinching :D
The point of Dark Devotion is to drop chase and go away from the person who is carrying your terror radius. Then you've got just a free undetectable to attack someone else. Plus, the person carrying your TR might cause people they run near to stop working on generators while they figure out what is going on. Dark Devotion, like a lot of undetectable perks, work best on indoor maps.
I used Predator during my beginner hours of dbd, and it did help greatly on indoor maps like Old RPD, Lerys, Midwich, and sometimes the Game. But I quickly put it out of my kit.
Great video 👍 Ever think how some perks are significantly better on other killers? Like how Iron Maiden isn't really good on Legion, but great on reloading killers. Or Merciless Storm on Doctor? Almost seems like some were made for other killers and just kind of put on new ones when they came out. Maybe a video worth of something in that ballpark? 🤔
You missed a crucial detail on alien instinct. It reveals furthest *injured* survivor, which may prove even more useless if teams are constantly healthy.
Deathbound has worked wonders for me! You know exactly when and where survivors heal, and can make a dash to them, stopping the 2nd person from healing (if they were both previously injured) and can very often run into a disoriented survivor, because they panic and run once giving away their location, yet are oblivious to which way you're approaching. Also if you notice survivors heal and they DON'T scream, you now know they are close by. Win win all around really.
I feel the septic touch would have been a good perk to include, possibly over genetic limits seeing as it does a similar effect, but in far fewer scenarios. Fantastic video btw, love your stuff.
I was playing as blight, using Grim Embrace, I got all 4 survivors hooked before any gens were done! It was great early game pressure, ensuring they couldn't do much, but as you mentioned they just stealthed. Managed to get two stacks back to back, though!
the way i remember it BHVR actually released shattered hope as a supposed counter to Boon: CoH. But most people found (me included) that taking shattered hope by chance you'd face someone with said boon perk isnt really a counter. Also the old meta was still appearant back then, so soon after shattered hope released, CoH got nerfed.
Imo, you totally missed the mark with shattered hope. Circle pf healing was never OK, cause it provided an infinite number of value - perk remained a huge problem up until it was hard nerfed in 6.7.0. The real reason to shattered hope’s failure is it’s instability. Even when boons were at their strongest and were everywhere, you could have a game with zero boons in your lobby, or a boon was never placed - or you just never had the time to find and crush it, let alone do that multiple times. Shattered hope basically turned to be an alternative to an empty perk slot in most games. Nevertheless, a great video, the type of content I love this cannel for. Something unique and fresh!
Deathbound was one of my favourite perks for my first ~30 hours, piramid head was my second licenced killer, demo being the first. I didn't really have access to other information perks but stil. I like the idea behind it. Grim Embrace I like to put into not so serious builds, or when I play some of the top killers like blight or nurse. It's a weak slowdown, but I find it fun to use. The obsession aura part usually does nothing, as somehow, whenever I use it, the obsession tends to be the last one to get hooked lol
Imagine if Beast of Prey still worked with Rapid Brutality and gave you its bonuses after hitting a survivor. Still wouldn't be great but would have a use at least.
An interesting perk which no one talks about in these discussions is thrilling. The perk is supposed to slow down gens, but its not all that great at it. People just use it as a solid info perk instead.
Is it supposed to slow gens? Did they say that or something? To me it seems like it is clearly designed as an info perk that may help make some situations awkward for the survivor if they don't want to show their position.
I'm gonna be real, Deathbound's one of my favorite perks. It's use is limited on low mobility Killers, ironically including Pyramid Head, but on Killers like Blight or Dredge you can act on that info really fast. It's actually a permanent perk I use on Dredge since Survivors are inclined to heal up and prevent Nightfall, his TP can reach the healing Survivors in no time. It's Oblivious status effect is more of a good bonus if it activates. I do this the perk was a more thematic perk, fitting with Pyramid Head's theme of punishing and atonement, but damn do I love that perk
23rd video asking ➡️ 1) Who from the killers is the most sensible/in touch with reality/in full control of themselves. 2) Ranking survivors' commentary, grunts, screams, etc., on how believable and realistic they sound? Like which are overdone, which are strange, which are so realistic you feel for the survivor, etc.
Even if the effect is basekit, the extra 10 seconds of Endurance can throw off tunneling killers: They'll wait 10 seconds for the basekit effect to wear off and then hit the Borrowed Time. It's also really good for Endgame rescue saves if the exit gates are more than 10 seconds away from the hook!
@@SinNombre-_- Now I agree there, but since it is basekit. Killers will always suspect the possibility of BT to be in play because of that additional 10 seconds. I'd say personally about 90% of the time killers will wait the 20 seconds regardless before going for the hit.
@@dylanmorse8199in my experience, I'd say borrowed time is pointless because if the intent is to tunnel, the most efficient choice is to hit right off of hook. There are so many possible endurance effects that could be in play after an unhook that it's better to just hit immediately and remove all those possibilities. Hell, even if you're not tunneling it's sometimes still good to hit off of hook just to waste their time a little with the mending.
I was laughing at Unrelenting because you're absolutely right; I use it as more of a meme addition and play a sort of mini game on my stream where the only time I'll be aggressive or hit a survivor is if they miss a skill check, otherwise I'm friendly and stay just watching them close by. A lot of people actually have fun with it
Dying Light is actually a pretty decent perk, and I'll stand by it. The Obsession gets no repair bonus (but is rather unaffected by any speed penalties). It pairs nicely with Sloppy Butcher because it counters the Obsession's healing speed bonus as well as stacking the with penalties applied to other survivors, and running it with Jolt or another regression perk helps get the most mileage out it. A killer like Legion can be good without SB, since you probably don't want to be healing much against them anyway.
Dark Devotion + Coller... Coule... Dark Devotion + Fear of Clowns + Ultimate Weapon: Not sure if this works, but with this survivors can't heal very well and will scream when you open a locker
Deathbound is like a very shallow but large puddle, on paper all the things you can get with it sound amazing and a steath/info/forced altrism would be meta right off the bat or find some niche build. But the values from it are so small that survivor either won't care or it just have little affect on the overall game.
i use dark devotion on Oni so that i can smak the obsession and rage after some other target near unnoticeable other than the sound of my mammoth feet rapidly aproching your location. ADITIONALLY i stack this with onis own perk that allows me to switch the obsession when i get stunned keeping survivors on edge and never truly knowing if its me or not
I believe BHVR didn't make shattered hope base kit cause survivor mains will complain "why are the killers able to destroy my boons for no reason?" When survivors can cleanse hex totems without needing a perk.
To be honest, Genetic Limits is a useless perk in the whole game. If a survivor doesn't run an exhaustion perk, which happens sometimes, it's become very-very useless. If not, the time of 32 seconds is small, and it doesn't give real pressure on survivors (they're really don't need to care about it). It's need a small rework of giving Hindered (about -3%) too.
Okay admittedly, Beast of Prey is awful for all killers except Onryō, survivors will think she's demanifested but actually she still on you. Works wonders on T L walls. Try it sometime (Coming from yours truly: A BoP user)
I like using Deathbound on Oni since i find survivors will heal on the edges of the map more than in high traffic areas. Plus tells me where my next batch of blood orbs are at :)
Predator scratchmarks should be thick but be less scattered, and should prevent scratchmarks from being hidden, like from dance with me. Gives it the utility it needs to be useful by itself
I’m just saying, grim embrace is not a failed perk. That perk, especially paired with deadlock is one of the most nasty combos to go against survivors by far. It is in fact such a good killer perk that it is used in most comp teams. As a killer man, let me tell you it is an absolutely amazing perk, and people shit on it for no reason
Dying light actually has been better than it used to be with healing reworks. It works well on killers that prevent healing like legion and plague or broken forcing addons/perks. It's better when you have a obsession juggling perk. It also has a weird multiplication effect on slowdown with some other perks. Allowing you to slow progress to a crawl. Deathbound and alien instinct are EVIL on teleport killers especially sadako. As she doesn't have a lullaby when manafested so if you use fingernails you can zip over and smack them with a jumpscare. Deathbound and genetic limits is also helpful for teleporting killers. For a silly meme build I do genetic limits, mind breaker, blood echo and septic touch. It enrages woo and made for this survivors but Gen rushers still can Gen rush.
Combine Unnerving Presence with Huntress Lullaby and the clown perk that makes healing skill checks twice as fast, really the only time I see this perk really being useful.
Shattered Hope being one of the least used killer perks is genuinely impressive when you consider it is a general perk. After Stranger Things DLC left DbD, the usage of all of Demo's perks jumped up significantly. Even Mindbreaker, a perk that really isn't all that great, started getting a significant amount of use. I also find Grim Embrace particularly badly designed as a perk because it has an anti-tunnelling mechanic in it with the stacks, but it encourages you to camp. When you hook the fourth survivor, there is literally no reason to leave the hook unless the obsession happens to be very near by. It's not like anyone's going to get any gen progress.
actually deathbound on oni is legit, it give him perfect information on where someone healed if you need blood orbs or if have power you are fast enough to get to the location where two people just where and you dont care that they now have full health. also if they separate you know jut get on them even easier individually. its really useful actually.
Dark devotion is actually fairly good believe it or not use it with perks that swap the obsession like game afoot so even if they are on guard it doesn’t matter it also gives you unique build ideas
I would like to say while I mostly agree with the alien open it does have its uses. For instance if the injured person is nearby (usually if they’re the only one or last survivor) it comes in quite handy as it doesn’t have a radius. I would like to say however that the other alien perk is a bit annoying as it relies entirely on you getting a hot while getting rid of killer instinct. In higher level lobbies this can be a bit difficult
shattered hope didnt fail cause it came late, it failed cause it didnt do ANYTHING if survivors didnt bring a boon totem, making it the only perk in the entire game that can have 0 effect if the survivors didnt being or use a spacific type of perk
For Beast of Prey I just came up with a rework idea, curious what the general consensu here is: Beast of Prey: Whenever you break chase with a survivor, you gain 1% movement speed for 20/30/40 seconds or until a survivor loses a health state. This stacks indefinitely and refreshes when you break a new chase.
I dont agree with alien instinct because i run a build that involved the surviors staying injured and if you use wraith which is fast coverage its a good perk it really just depends on the killer
I disagree about dark devotion because that requires survivors know every perk in the game and dark devotion usually flies under the radar unless you’re going up against survivors with 2k+ hours
I think a nice buff to BOP would be granting undetectable while you're in chase, and when you get BL, you basically get a bond for killer, with both effects persisting for 10 seconds after leaving chase.
Can’t believe you’d post footage of you using such an op build. Come on, do you really need strong perks like Beast Of Prey, Deathbound, Shattered Hope, and Alien Instinct to win your games? Sounds like a skill issue /s On a more serious note, I love Alien Instinct on Nurse. It’s singlehandedly won me a few tough games lately. Farthest injured survivor can mean any range; they can be across the map, or close enough for a blink attack. I’d recommend trying it on her!
I **massively** disagree with genetic. you pair that with nurses calling or something and you're gonna be getting chases on folks who can't sprint burst from a heal or what not. it's **really** effective in my experience.
It’d be cool if Grim Embrace worked like Pain Res, make it a scourge hook and every time a survivor gets hooked on a scourge hook for the first time the gens get blocked for 40 seconds, that’d be more useful
@@Haildarklordvader I mean it’d have to be a decent amount of time to make it worth using considering u only get to use it 4 times, under 30 seconds would be kinda pointless, so I guess 30 seconds would be ok
grim embrace rework idea: it activates when you’ve reached 4 hooks and haven’t hooked a survivor twice in a row (so maybe you could hook surv1, then surv2, then surv1 and then surv2 again and the perk activates)
