10 manufacturers that failed in F1 

and never winning. They were ahead of their time.

OHHH SNAP

Except Sir William Lyons didn't live in a valley with a narrow-minded view of the outside world! So, another way in which they failed then!

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Yes, thats why its made in India today

Same here bro, im in indy, but my fams from ny and nj

What Netflix show is it?

I feel bad for you guys, but I'm glad you're in the F1 bubble 😂

@@renlysotherlover294 Drive To Survive

Damn right man. I love F1 now and I'm surprised that I took such an interest after watching just a documentary

Yes

The nose Vinyl is so good.

Jordan. You missed a great period if you didn’t see it.

@@Platesmasher I didn't even know what F1 was back den 😬

Totally agreed. One of my favourite F1 liveries ever.

Lies again? Never Study

Can’t compare... Renault has won multiple World Championships...

@@AttilatheThrilla In the 2000s

@@AttilatheThrilla that was a ver y diferent renault

Nono the the not knowing how to blame themselves is ferrari

Sergeant Supreme Doesn’t matter when.....

Honestly man 😤

Bitten Hisses

Yep, Jordan's liveries with the nose art were awesome. The 1997 is the best by far though.

In case of fire: RUN.

Yeah, I always have a wank before the race. Saves a ton of weight.

​@@borismuller86 If they could. AF didn't even have the decency to remove the seatbelts both to further optimize and reduce weight plus give the drivers a chance to run... 😜🤣🤣🤣

I was just looking for exactly a comment like this xD

Wo denn?😂

@@iPwnZz irgendwo als es um Porsche ging, meine ich zumindest

When?

@@rogerrzzz5204 10:35

The cars/engines are too complex and require too much financial investment. Manufactures are not there to lose money, they want good results so that translates into sales of their cars. We forget that motorsport is simply a big advertising campaign for companies. That's all it really is.

Honda was pretty unprepared... they didn't get a good idea of how restrictive was the token system. Mercedes' dirty little secret.

F1 is not the same, only the big ones win while the rest just sit back and get points, no real competition, I want all team to race and win, not a handful, also love to see every car manufacture or team to return or form, because why not

@@lostalone9320 You must bet kidding, right? LH never drove a much less capable machinery. He has always had one of the, if not THE, best car. He is good, but there are multiple drivers that would’ve gotten the same results if they had the same car. Indycar are same spec cars, that means that the dominant teams just have better guidance for their drivers and are better at finetuning and setting up their cars. The names you mention aren’t the least names in motorsport…

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they kinda lost their speed when Colin Chapman died

@@pretentiousarrogance3614 Absolutely

Insert 2 clips 1 is a Lotus 72 neatly driving around Brands or something. Its quite nice and almost poetic. The other is an onboard of the Lotus 98T going round adelaide heel and toeing like mad and losing the rear end on exit in a 1400 horsepower 5 bar boost renault engine.

*the tables turn... But yes, you're right.

@@y_fam_goeglyd it's a reference to The Office, an American sitcom.

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@eduard ionitsa Yuppa, we a talk a with a ouwr a hands a

Oh, mamma mia, whya ya don'ta geta outa of la mya waya🤏🤏?

TenorCantusFirmus I’m italian and now I feel offended, but I can’ta stopa laughinga🤏🏻

@@monicatozzo1106 I'm Italian too - Just was being self-ironical.

Failed as a manufacturer. Which means they made the engine as well. If Alfa Romeo or Mclaren succeeded and won titles, but with other manufacturer engines inside, then it doesn't count for this video. For example, if McLaren would win this year it would be with an Renault engine, not their own Mclaren engine

Yes. As an engine supplier Porsche was the most successful maker in F1 for such a short period of time it participated..but then everyone likely assumed they would...I guess they always preferred their dominant Lemans 24 races for a marketing platform

Wasn't that motor a TAG?

@@colinmunro7337 badged with that name, but it's Porsche engine.

colin munro which is Porsche..yes..the TAGhauer brand was a kind if a joint venture..

Aww man, I was already laughing by this point, but then to mention their biggest impact being the armco at Monaco sent me into tears 😂😂. Then Subaru hot on the heals of that, i was done 🤣🤣🤣

well BMW was already catching up with the like of mclaren and ferrari but then the economic crisis happened... leaving BMW to not invest as much in the F1-project and therefore becoming a shit team in 2009 which led them to stay away from f1 :( So I would not describe BMW as a failure maybe more of a victim of the economic circumstances of that time :(

Yeah. Ferrari was awful in the 80's through to about 96.

@@lukasahrens9999 well still fail in F1.

@@Yeetin_Boomer_Actual *97*

F1 equivalent of the LA Lakers lol

Really you have to look at Alfa in the 80s separately from what was before. And the Porsche effort in 91 was woeful.

Read the book Formula 1 Car by Car 1980-1989 to see what a catastrophe Alfa Romeo was. Year after year its engines were overweight and guzzled gas in an era where full economy was crucial.

@@mccririck01 Which car manifacturer haven`t had any failure in F1???

Bmw is much more worthy

Lancia had some success , but only when it was called Lancia-Ferrari.

What?

@@kris10an64 I know makes no sense to me neither. Ferrari is the most successful team in f1 lol they have the most wins and most championships, just because they're having an off year people tend to think they're a failure. And no im not a Ferrari fan just hate when people talk out their ass.

@BlazingFermiteYT you kind of proved my point how can a team be classified as a failure when they have been there literally since the beginning. A failure would be what happend with toyota or any of the other teams that are no longer racing for that matter. yes they haven't been on top for a while but yet they still have been getting paid more then everyone else, again I wouldn't consider that a failure.

@BlazingFermiteYT oh ok, well my bad I thought otherwise.

Definitely

Honda in F1 is the real picture of the Japanese workflow. Just pure ambition and desire to improve. I mean sure, there are other japanese brands like Suzuki & Yamaha, which constantly rival with Honda on the motorbike championship, but Honda is the only japanese, in fact, the only asian manufacturer to succeed in Formula 1. To be fair, Toyota has some dominance and history in Le Mans World Endurance Racing.

And Honda. They would've easily won the 2009 championships. Gutted for them.

If only they could have held out until atleast 2014... considering Toyota being the absolute grandmasters when it comes to hybrid engines. We'd be talking about Toyota's dominance for the last 6 years in F1; not Mercedes.

@@Lowdo1549 nope they wouldn't, even though the car was amazing their engine was scheiße, so the change to merc engine was crucial, at least thats what brawn said

@@evandrochaves9596 And Nick Fry wrote the same in his book. The change to the Mercedes was crucial to what Brawn achieved

Evandro Chaves no much has changed there then 😂 double diffuser advantage and ongoing dev through the season would surely have put them in the mix, even with the Honda donkey.

Yeah, noticed that too

Eddie Irvine post-Ferrari: I drive a Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggg...

Agreed

a good looking green car is hard to come by in this sport

I have to agree that it looked good. The red really set it off.

And Toyota to!

XD

@@joshuaboyd1084 I thought that was the US buying Alaska for $1

with a commitment to invest 400 million over the next 3 seasons.

@@mercian9425 It was a joke answer, but gotta admit, I did not know that, I thought it was some crazy low, symbolic price. Not that 7 million dollars is a lot of money for Alaska.

@@ondraspendlik9759 adjusting for inflation it was about 100 million

The corporate culture was the reason Peugeot failed in F1. Most of their employees were hired by Mercedes, Renault and went on to enjoy a huge success.

Porsche failed in Formula One? Did you forget Daniel Sexton Gurney's winning Porsche 804 at the French GP in 1962?

They did pretty well with Merc from 95 to 2012

There's one thing McLaren has never done. Trust in italians.

@@Ale70594 Peugeot is French though.

replace lambo for BMW and i would go with you :D

Lambo could come back if Vw wants to engage a brand in F1 as well as Porsche or Audi tho

@@LesGrosPiedsDeDeejay nah dont think that any of these will start a f1 team.... the only one i can think about would be bugatti

Why? Toyota had suffered enough...

Honda is in F1 again since 2015 as an engine manufacturer for Mclaren but things didn't went like before. In 2019 till now, they made engines for Redbull and Alpha Tauri.

For the money invested it was defo not worth it

Short answer - yes, they really fail.

They didn’t win were like fourth a lot, with Ralf Schumacher

Toyota used at least 10 times more money then the next high spending team, they said in advance that it was easy for Toyota to win F1 , make a car, join the F1, and win F1 .did not take a singel advice from any other team , they belived they had the answer to any problem, They faild BIG time, the did not have the know how at this level. For the record, there is only 2 countrys in the world that can and are making F1 cars, England and Italy, all the other teams/makes not Italian are developed in England by British engineers , from A to Z , only the money comes from Mercedes or Honda or whatever the make/brand is, like this it has been for a long time., Toyota tryed, Merceds tryed Honda tryed and so forth, but in the end the English to over...

@@chriskytiri3174 Honda makes their engines in Japan

Magic Markus

Spyker nevertheless wasn't a big manufacturer in the first place. Imagine Trust, Jumbo, Spyker and Honda working together on a Dutch team with Max Verstappen and Nyck de Vries in the car.

Spyker is not that old compared with Aston Martin, Peugot, Honda, Lamborghini, but it's one of the dutch manufacturers who produces exclusive cars, als like Donkervoort, but i don't know if Spyker has his own engine when they did F1. And there cars are now pink, Racing Point Aston Martin was former Spyker.

They’re called Missing Point now

I was thinking the same thing is that idk if Tyrrell was with matra when Stewart was winning in the late 60s thats why they not include it in the list

RPP_LAPSSS No, you’re right. They had both the Matra chassis and engine in 1969 which is why they’re not here.

And caterham

max white Good call. Spyker as well.

@@shanecameron7869 Buggati in the 1950s also.

The leaping curry electrical fire

Nismo TV evolved into a motorsport channel for all

Elaborate please

Ghost Johnson I’m also curious. Sounds like this guy used to be at Autosport YT channel. I definitely recognize his voice.

@@crazydrummer181 yes he was at Autosport. But the Race is much better!

Gary Anderson to boot. I left Autosport once I heard the fat guys were gone. No foul meant. I'm a chubs myself.

Pantheon de la FFL

Prost has been a cancer to F1 for a long, long time

@@AttilatheThrilla with 2019 point system he is better than senna

@@cxmmax4265 The 2019 points system is broken.

@@MatthewLee8383 i agree but facts are facts

Jordan was especially robbed of having a consistently-good engine supplier and still was punching way above their weight taking fights to McLaren and Ferrari. How differently for Eddie's team it could have been if they wound up with the massive Vodafone sponsorship deal he was supposed to get and BMW power.

@@beckett929 Also that had to do with frenzen getting everything out of the car and still getting booted for that sweet honda money

@@juhosten3463 Jordan were broke. That's why

Biz Nasty yes in 84, 85 and 86

This is yes Porsche but not all is cmplite TAG

Nah probably they will switch to AMR01 or AMR21

@@riccardoplatone well, AMR01 won't be possible because they had a AMR1 already, it was the 1989 LMP1 car (yeah, i know, it was Group C back then, not lmp1 ;) )

I really hope they use the DB prefix from next year either DBR as used to be or DBF

This is one of things I'm most interested in regarding the rebranded team. I hope they choose DBR6 but the problem is they've already used up DBR9.

@@mark6bat As the 2021 car will be a carry-over from this year, next year's car may even still be called the RP20.

I remember Martin Brundle's engine blowing up as he started the British Grand Prix, that was also spectacular!

Peugeot’s engine blowups are the most spectacular I’ve ever seen 😅

still better than gp2 engine, it couldn't even explode properly

Anyone trying to erase the Mazda win is gonna be on my bad list. Thanks, Mr Strawman. Also, that's so easy to research for crying out loud!

Peugeot did win Le Mans in 1991. It was actually their 1st of 3 years in a row that they won the crown jewel of endurance racing.

Well there is a global recession idk if teams can afford and take the risk to join F1 all tho all the teams will start from zero you never know

Except covid-19 left big mark on economics, and wasn't Toyota left F1 because financial problem left by 2008 economic crisis? I don't think Toyota will be back since they've been successful in other categories like Le Mans.

No chance if the power unit regulations remain as financially off putting as they are currently. Deleting the MGU-H would help an awful lot. I know this would be a technological step backwards, but I can't see another solution to the problem.

Matthew Lee It is true anyways F1 is already monopolized by Mercedes, Red Bull and Ferrari(that is falling from the boat if the maffia would pump a lot of money on them) thanks to stupid Ecclestone who sold F1 to Liberty idk if it is worth it to watch F1. There are other race events like Indy CAR, DTM, FE and Super Formula that do a great job with competing manufacturers that are fighting fare and square and almost as good as F1 pilots. You can’t begin from zero when the bigger teams got more materials, better engineers, better managers and really good technicians AND the money and for other teams it is like a gamble where they will end up starting from the grid even to hold the pace

I'd love this to happen to, but I honestly doubt it. Remember that those regulations were originally planned for 2021, and that preparing a new F1 entry takes a very long time (Honda spent two years preparing for their return, and that was only as an engine supplier). If any new manufacturers were coming into the sport because of the regulation changes, they would have said so months ago. If they were to only start now, they'd be leaving it too late IMO.

BMW Suaber had a race win with Kubica and Lotus with Kimi.

@@DM0407 I was talking about Lotus-Caterham (2010-2014), not Lotus-Renault where Kimi won 2 races in 2012-2013. Yep, BMW was quite good as a manufacturer and they often reached podiums and victories with Williams. But only one with Kubica in 2008 as a constructor.

@@fabiendmng2111 ralf schumacher was a crasher at a level like grosjean.... sure they would have need a good driver.... kubica was a good choice but there also would have been better choices (for example fernando alonso) :D if they would have been faster (in contacting alonso, not the car) than renault they could have had 2 WC with alonso instead of renault...

@@Mikoto_Suoh 👍

Lotus was just a name. They weren't involved in the cars except 2010

*Niki. But yeah the Jaguar in 2002 depsite scoring a 3rd place podium at Monza with Eddie Irvine it was a s***box as Niki would call it.

Lancia's a bit questionable, but the particular stints that Alfa and Porsche were listed here were fair. For Alfa, they were mid-pack at best in their 80s stint and their 1985 car was so bad they have to revert back to the 1984 car mid-season. For Porsche, I'm sure people have high expectations when the Footwork 3512 project was first announced given the successes they have in sports car racing and the last time they were in F1 with the TAG Porsche engine, they brought home 3 WDCs and 2 WCCs. The results of the 3512 clearly proved to be anything but a success.

1. Senna was going to Williams anyway for 1994 so whether McLaren adapted the Lamborghini engine (which reportedly would be renamed Chrysler for marketing purposes since Chrysler owned Lamborghini back then) would be irrelevant because Senna would always drive for Williams. 2. Lamborghini is owned by Volkswagen today. Unless Volkswagen decides that F1 is worth their time and money - and right now they seem very indifferent to it - you won't see Volkswagen or Audi in F1, never mind Lamborghini. 3. Koenigsegg is a tiny company which has nowhere near the funds to be able to enter F1 as an engine manufacturer. Considering they didn't even design their V8 and actually just modified a Ford Modular V8 I wouldn't expect them to know much about state-of-the-art F1 power units. So you keep hoping the rest of your life but you'll never see a major Swedish manufacturer like Volvo in F1, let alone a tiny company like Koenigsegg. Just imagine if you actually had bothered to do some research first?

Cant imagine Koenigsegg in F1

Maybe Audi and Lamborghini

@@paulallen8109 You mean their first engines? Koenigseggs designs and builds their own powertrain. While it may sound like a Modular V8 from Ford, Twin Turbo with 1.1k hp is very different from a Crown Victoria ,_,

@@paulallen8109 The first fact, was a matter of context. Senna wanted to be in the fastest car, that happened to the the Williams. (He offered to drive for free to Williams, but Prost's contract said Ayrton couldn't be his teammate under any circumstances) He wanted to win championships because he was getting older, and he knew his career would end soon. 1993 was the year he took the most out of his car, and if you search, Ron Dennis was looking for a Renault engine (the same from the Williams) he tested the Lambo engines, and Peugeot engines, Senna wanted the Lambo V12 at any cost, but Ron Dennis denied it at the end, so he moved to Williams and died in the third race. I'm saying that, maybe, just maybe, if McLaren was fast enought he would've stayed. And sorry for my grammar again.

hart and ford turbo engines?

Just sort the manufacturers by championships then

Too bad they didn't research probably who won Le Mans when... amateur mistake.

Won the 1957 WDC with Fangio, and also powered some late 1960’s Cooper cars as a non-factory effort.

Lancia undoubtedly failed, but not because the product was not up to the job. The D50 was a revolutionary car and could easily have won 2 or even 3 world championships. I also do not see how Alfa Romeo can be included given that it won the chanpionship a couple of times. All teams go through bad periods as Ferrari has often done and as McClarren is currently experiencing. I also tend to agree with you about Porsche, but lists like this are always difficult to compile.

Yeah, a shame since the 2010 car was supposedly going to be very competitive, according to the data. Moreover, a Japanese driver in a Japanese team winning races would’ve been great for marketing.

Nah brahh they can't they already loose millions i mean a lot of millions trying to compete in f1

@@markhensonurzua7523 They probably will return one day with the right car and with their hybrid technology from their WEC car

@@anonymous-vo2rd i will be happy if nissan will be a one team because nissan have more potential than Toyota nissan have been in f1 for some time they are the engine supplier of toro Rosso before and now their teaming up with Renault

@@markhensonurzua7523 They've been in F1 as Infiniti Infiniti were Title sponsors of Red Bull not Toro Rosso They're currently with Renault but Infiniti are leaving Europe at the end of this year which means Renault will need to look for a new primary sponsor Also Nissan are busy with their FE team as Nissan E.Dams after Renault withdrew from Formula E

You mean the rebadged Matra engine?

Or ats from 1963

Don't be mean. They are trying their best . Let's give them a participation trophy

@@nujjigram I'm a Ferrari fans but, they've been kinda bad recently

@@DannyDom3 I was being sarcastic mate. Totally get what you meant. Just some light humour

@@nujjigram 👍

Not accurate, one bad stint doesn't equate to a lifetime of failure

What a car really! V12 diesel

Amazing movie!

l I've been wondering for some time now; how hard would it be for the team that designed and build the TS050 LMP1 car to design and build a competitive F1 car, or in the least an F1 engine? Still, had they not throw in the towel in '09 and held out untill 2014. We'd be talking about Toyota's dominance in F1 and not Mercedes

Toyota F1 Team was different to the LMP1 Team

well... they only had success without competition ;) they lost out to Audi and Porsche. so i'm not really sure they'd be much more successful now than back in their old f1 days. might fight Renault

They really weren't all that succesfull until all the other LMP1 manufacturers retired (i think they won the WEC championship one year before that but let's be honest, companies enter endurance to win Le Mans)

And getting beaten thoroughly by germans again as they were in LMP...

Spyker was more or less just there. Not great but not awful.

Its literally fine

Subaru is a weird one, they outsourced the engine to an italian company who made it way too complex and fiddley than it needed to be

There's more to Suburu. After pulling out of F1, the Colinni team put up its tooling and engines for auction. Then one of the men there managed to get in contact with a young Christian Von Koenigsegg who bid and won those toolings and the Suburu flat 12 engine. The engine fit into his prototype CC and seemed like a great option as it acted like a chassis member but wasn't viable as the engine was good for 750 bhp with turbos. In the end the engine was dropped for a Ford unit which would ultimately go on to power Koenigsegg cars in the future.

yugo put a lot of eastern europeans on wheels..... thanks to fiat. whens GM gonna step up to the plate?

Variety I’m guessing

Because we've been stuck with Mercedes Domination™ for 6 years now? Privateer in F1 is mostly constrained by the Engine manufacturer so yeah.

Variety. People always wanna see their favourite manufacturers scrapping it out for success. Not sure how that fact is so surprising.. That's kinda part of the reason why I watch so many other series and formula, (like FE) than F1. The importance of privateers can't be understated but often, it's the manufacturers that the fans are most amazed by.

True the chassis make the difference with RB, Williams and McLaren as an example but in the end F1 would fit in as a real Motorsport if there is more than 7 manufacturers on the grid and now bigger manufacturers are dominating F1 right now and are able to produce reliable engines for them selves and ‘cheaper less powerful engines’ to other teams so finally and hopefully the old days of F1 are coming back ‘we are liberated by those ugly hybrid engines’