10 Reasons Why the Munificent Class Star Frigate was the Best 

To be Honest, the Jedi and clones themselves should'v known they were winning a unwinnable war, and something was wrong, like a sith, or SOMETHING, behind the scenes, this is another LARGE example of how the republic, jedi, and clones were incompetent.

@@benreynolds5433 To be fair, the clones didn't exactly have the influence to change anything. Or any at all. Even when a few clones noticed some things, they were just swatted aside.

The Jedi were pretty blind tbh.

@@sheevone4359 The Jedi sure were.

The Enclave There was only 2 million clones? That seems a little... low. I mean, the Droids were incompetent and kind of inaccurate, but with large swaths of them it would be easy to overpower the entire clone army. No wonder the Republic put up a bill to fund more troops lol.

Thats because new trilogy just gave up on making new stuff, were as george was ALWAYS making new stuff

@@kurtlehane8152 PT: Tons of new and awesome ship designs. ST: An X-Wing, but it's black. A TIE Fighter, but it's black.

Austin Hinton a Three different Star destroyers introduced in the sequel trilogy but literally two are just imperial star destroyers with either a different super structure and one is just a imperial star destroyer with a Planet destroying cannon. Nothing unique or new.

the Venator class is my favorite star wars ship of all time so i agree, Clone wars is my favorite era

Definitely

Probably should stay away from the hospitals right now

Are you challenging me?

I don't have any alcohol left. Will cups of tea work?

@@GlorifiedShed depends. What sort of tea?

mr pigron add some tranquilliser in, and _maybe_ ...

Especially the munificent and providence. If I lived in the Star Wars galaxy I would definitely get a munificent class frigate with all its armaments and shields and add a 0.6 or 1.0 class hyper drive and just put a pirate crew in it and raid away.

@@toby1061 hell ya

Leonidas1210vc Ahh I have found my first mate, together we will become the greatest pirate ever!

@@toby1061 we'll have a merry good time!

@@toby1061 i have made my personal -1 km ship small pirate fleet And this one is my flagship

Charles Donald how original

Last time I was this early Revan wasn't a Sith

Last time i was this late the cake was a lie.

A long long time ago

Last time I was here Obama was his last name

I kinda paper sketch designed a 700 m multi role Jack of all trades perfect cruiser as a mainline ship for my fictional largest Imperial Remnant belonging to Thrawn faction , based on a Arquitens with an extra wedge added , has weapons from all the famous small ships of the Empire below Star destroyers and has a Carrier focus too .... now that I see it , it's very very similar to the Munificient in a Thrawn imperial way

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Time to ruin the reply section for no damn reason

Because he always vouches for the Venator.

Kinda.

Rebel ships make me sick

“...Dafaq?!”

General Grievous hello there

Huh I remeber satele leading the jedi last time

They had the numbers, stable government, admirals and exposable ships and troops. Confederacy could have just defeated the republic in the first year of it wanted to.

Jap. Anf if the Jedi didnt have plot armore.

​@@toby1061 It's actually ironic for Count Dooku... had he just turned on Darth Sidious from the outset, at Geonosis it could have ended quite differently for him. The Republic would have lost that first battle had Dooku not sabotaged the Separatists' efforts, and forced an unnecessary retreat rather than 'sending all available troops in to battle'. From there the CIS could started work on the Death Star, and sent their fleets to capture Kamino, bombard shipyards, and blockade Coruscant at a point the Republic has no navy to speak of. With warships at their doors, the Senate almost certainly would have pushed for peace. The Jedi could not have justified a war against a foe that is demanding a peace settlement. And Darth Sidious would have been left in an interesting position... possibly with no alternative but to come after Dooku and try and reclaim the CIS. Cos Dooku should have known Sidious would betray him eventually. He was too old to be his apprentice long term. If he'd been less naïve, he could have had everything, trained his own dark side apprentices, perhaps established his own new Sith Order.

Having said that they should have kicked out Nute Gunray.. you cant win when one of your leaders is such a coward that he cares more about his own safety than winning a war.

The only way the republic would win if it started to draft any citizen into the army

In Star Wars jargon term "cruiser" actually refer to every larger ship. Not just proper cruisers. That putting aside the fact that despite being frigate it did have size of heavy cruiser.

Emm ok thank you.

@@TheRezro In Clone Wars they didnt care much about warship terminology.

"This is taking too long! Destroy that cruiser..."

@@TheKingofbrooklin They never did.

yeah the HiLux is nigh invulnerable and even survived the Top Gear onslaught.

@@TedSchoenling that’s why they are the Australian work horse ute

despite their incredible design and mindblowingly low cost (12 mil) tehy were scrapped for isds or other projects when the republic won

I think they’re called Frigates because it has a good ring to it. “Munificent class star destroyer” doesn’t sound all that cool,Does it?

Soooo…a frigate by the Age of Sail standards.

​@@midgetydeath It always changes. It went from "how to fit more guns within cost", "how to get bigger guns against armour", "how to aim smaller guns against torpedo boats", "how to secure the sky and drop bombs", "how to drop bombs to secure the depths while securing the sky", and finally, "How to secure everything so you can be the first to successfully yeet the missiles".

The japanese didn't use any WW1 era designs. They were all created before WW2 began.

@@commanderknight9314 There is merit to both positions. Alot of the IJN naval ships, particularly carriers, were at the front of technological design in many ways at the start of WW 2 in 1939. However, alot of their designs, particularly battleships, were based on British designs that in some cases were still using WW 1 ideas, such as the emphasis on battlecruiser characteristics that could not stand up to battleships, I.e. the IJN Kirishima.

​@@ja6973Not much of a choice to fullfil their ambitions with how low everything is compared to every other major power

Wait, there's a senator class star destroyer?

@@sphee4149 lol meany to say venator

@@patrick_fahy if a senator class star destroyer does exist, it would've been Palpatines flagship

Thanks for being easy target. I'm actually surprised that you didn't mention Venator? That would make you completely worthless, as a least Resurgent is some threat. Even if Nebula ISD is still far superior.

@@TheRezro easy target? Yea sure. The Venator is decent but not all mighty. And why would I need one? The Resurgent has huge hangars and I can let Vulture Droids travel on the hull of the Munificent. Don't get started with the Supremacy that has even more room for fighters.

@@TheRezro the Nebula isn't even canon

@@fuckinantipope5511 Do you working for Disney? No. So shut the fuck up about what is or isn't canon. You can't know that. And again. Fanboy logic is not logic. There is way more great ships in Star Wars and because something is popular it doesn't mean it was good. Munificent was good on beginning of the war, but even here you need five to take one Venator. Even old Victory what was already tested during that time, easily overpower those ships. Resurgent is good being basically lesser version of Nebula. But it has same tactical problems as ISD if used for force projection. You need use ships systematically and not send battleships on first line, without any support. If you ask my combination of Victory, Gladiator, Arquitens, Lancers, Quasars, Marauders and few other classes would easily annihilate Rebellion, providing also sufficient defense during Vong invasion. With Gazanti and Acclamator used for assault and of course proper core fleet of Tector and Secutors if anything larger pop up (only Dreadnought worthy of consideration is Belator). That is basically what Thrawn would do if he would have something to say about Empire strategy.

whelp good luck with finding a crew, the rest of the hull asides from the bridge and a few other parts are uninhabitable

dark fish the destroyer There was still a Organic life crew on most munificent sand seperatist vessels so there would still be a decent crew quarters, commissary and mess hall just not a large one, and If I were rich in Star Wars I would definitely use some BX commando droids to fill in the empty crew spots.

Would be a good story for fallen order 2

Yes

Jamie Walsh hell no. The Recusant class has these exact same qualities, except it’s a destroyer. That’s not even mentioning the brilliant Lucrehulk and Providences

Keith Marshall The advantage of Vulture droids are fully their automation. Smallest starfighters possible, capable of the most extreme maneuvers possible. This is what makes them so deadly in combat. An arc is good and all but needs coordination, and the pilots are still human. The Vulture is not the pilot of the fighter, he IS the fighter, which also makes him deadlier. Even so they probably became outdated after the clone wars due to fighters reaching it’s quality

A Munificent had more guns then a Venator, but had less fighters then one. The CIS navy mass produced it's ships. A munificent had deadly heavy turbolasers at the front of the ship, which could really damage a ship. If the Venator were to send it's fighters at the Munificent, the Munificent had about 38 point defense guns, 12 flak guns, and 40 fighters to deal with them, along with Dwarf Spider Droids they could possibly use as extra guns, but this still wouldn't be enough for like, 192 V-Wings. My point is, a Venator is a capital ship, but still doesn't have a lot of weapons (8 heavy turbolaser turrets and 2 medium turbolaser turrets). The Munificent is not a full on capital ship, but has the weapons to seem like one. The Venator was a carrier, like a Lucrehulk, which is why it was a capital ship. The Munificent has lot's of weapons, but not many fighters.

Yeah in the traditional Light Cruiser role of heavy scout, picket and raider.

I think they did a video one time about a lucrehulk carrier being used in a failed attack on the first death star, but from what I can recall for everything I've seen or read is that most of the droid ships were scrapped or put in junkyard, while some were secured by rebels or pirates, with a few ending up with the Rebel Alliance. The Empire was rather aggressive about hunting down any large groups of droid ships or units reactivated though. Hope it helps.

also a way better system of government, since a confederate state essentially is a state where the individual states, in this case planets have a high degree of autonomy, in this case they would have given militairy command to a central authority, along with some other matters, yet keeping everything else within their own systems the republic was noted to be a bureacratic mess

The empire had I terrible navavy that. While sertanly looked intimidating was very imartical made to look intimidating but had little to no use of star fighter defendable or offensively in its doctrine witch is why the mutch smaller rebuill navy with mutch smaller numbers out of bate fighters and plots with little trained pilots ran cycles around them and they would have be absolutely obliterated by the confederacy fighter carried bast navay

Ya but the ty intersepter where still crap. It was mad very clear that only a handful of fighters could easily take out an extreme expensive star destroyer. And that’s not even taking the malabisens witch could take out multiple ones with eas the eaqualt large confederate fleet and its state less war strategy would need only a fraction of the size fleet to obliterate them given there havey unites star fighter and bomber doctrine

@Keith Marshall i agree with you. The empire had the best navy. They had more ships than crew. They also had the fastest fighters in star wars history. They only reason they lost is because A. Plot B. Emperor Nutsack underestimated luke and the resistance.

@@brooklynbryant677 C. Will of the force

no need. this thing is already a beast, so just build another one and boom, instant death machine

@@persuisixh4804 maybe improve the armor and add heavier weapons and maybe a hanger then the munificent would be a higher effective frigate.

@@Jon_REDACTED thankfully instead of doing all that we can just build 4 more. while one couldnt take on a venator, you could literally buy 5 of them and staff them all for the same price as one venator. so no need

@@persuisixh4804 that’s true, probably wouldn’t need to keep replacing them if they were a little more durable or armed wouldn’t it?

@@Jon_REDACTED nope. the reason they didnt was for this very reason. it was literally more efficient to just build more. keep in mind also that they had other capitol ships to bring the hurt or last longer, but this one absolutely shredded for its cost, no questions asked

Idcrafter: cause they’re actually Generation Flesh, they’re all meatbags, not a single android or cyborg in their crew.. What’s “tech” about meatnecks..? (They censored it, because they knew people would question it..😂)

R0T-N2 D-C0R4 i smell a clanka

@Victor Nikolai 2nd. Us vampires are first

I think original variant was basically lightly armed merchant escort. But after war started they were reequipped in way heavier weapons. So yes, functionally they were cruisers.

@@TheRezro I agree with you though the original varient was only created in the first place to fend off pirates and enforce people to pay taxes

A lot of times they just call it whatever they think sounds cool without giving much thought to the actual role the vehicle plays. The EU, both Legends and I think Disney canon brought in the Anaxis war college to try to standardize the actual classification, but that's only based on length which is a slightly less stupid way to categorize ship, but still stupid and lazy overall. But ya, in the roles it's used it's probably a cruiser, or an oversized destroyer given that it seems to often be used to screen the heavier ships when they're available.

@@ChakatBlackstar It is the same in the real world so I can definently forgive star wars for doing that.

@@TheRezro and the worst part is that you could buy 4-5 of these for one venator

Wondering the same thing. :/

probably a joke

It stands for Genitals technology

It was Generation Films before

They have another channel called generation films

Munificent originally was merchant escort ship with firepower comparable to standard Frigate. During the war they were reequipped becoming basically proper cruisers, tough in my opinion they still were vastly underpowered comparing to similar proper warship like Victory Star Destroyer. Speaking of which is more fitting comparison to ISD. "It's not like ones a Dreadnaught and ones a standard battleship" You are aware that Dreadnoughts actually ARE standard battleships? Aren't you?

TheRezro in the world world, big guy. Please don’t tell me you’re trying to compare British battleship design prior to WWI to imperial ship types that are orders of magnitude different?

Okay let’s compare it to the Arquitance class light cruiser. The munificent would still destroy it. Munificent is probably the best Star Wars frigate when fully kitted out and crewed.

Yup but it's a cruiser not a frigate

General kenobi

Another good one even though its an Assault Ship is the Acclamator. Dont understimate it. It can put a bit of a fight with other not so powerful ships.

Venators are pretty good but munifficents where just over all better

@@thatguywholeavestheparty6147 you are a bold one.

Munificent was actually gigantic for its class. it is why it suffered on Starfleet syndrome.

hyperspace missiles, often suggested by fans, but honestly the closes they could get would be light or ehavy fighters entering hyperspace at enemy ships(really effective tho)

Me neither

well

it seems kind of on equal footing with the venator until you realize that you can buy 5 for one venator. Capitalism at its finest

All part of Palp's plan to corrod and corrupt the order.

No. Napoleonic era warships were purpose built for war. And even the earlier Age of Discovery warships that were also used in the role of merchant vessels were in fact built for battle.